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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#38276: Feb 5th 2020 at 10:16:20 PM

I think it's supposed to be romance-exclusive, just based on the fact that it's triggered by a declaration of love and her heart motif. Plus, if it were anyone she felt any form of love for then she'd be overpowered if she managed to make friends with...pretty much any prominent character.

I think the word used (愛 "ai") does just mean love in general. Romantic love, specifically, would be 恋 "koi".

But her feelings for Gentle are most certainly romantic, and if/when she comes back into the story, it's doubtful she's suddenly going to love Izuku or anyone else more. And it is specified it does have to be the person she loves most, not just anyone she's close to.

Edited by LSBK on Feb 5th 2020 at 1:17:22 PM

Wispy Since: Feb, 2017
#38277: Feb 5th 2020 at 10:43:00 PM

That's annoying specific for that power, I was assuming that it'd work for both romantic and platonic love.

If it worked for platonic love La Brava could easily work as a force multiplier kind of support hero.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#38278: Feb 5th 2020 at 10:45:29 PM

I just pointed out it probably can be platonic love, but that doesn't mean much, because they specified it only works for the person she loves most. She could never give power ups to multiple people.

Edited by LSBK on Feb 5th 2020 at 1:48:35 PM

Wispy Since: Feb, 2017
IniuriaTalis Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: Love, football, the arts, the occasional pint
#38280: Feb 5th 2020 at 10:49:32 PM

This series does take pains to keep anyone from being too overpowered. (besides maybe post-upgrade Shiggy). I still remember the grumbling when Shinsou's powers were fully explained and turned out to be much weaker them anyone thought.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#38281: Feb 5th 2020 at 10:55:30 PM

I feel like with Shinso that was sort of people's fault for assuming things without proof.

Like, I definitely noticed that he never made anyone speak when using his power, so wasn't surprised when it turned out it was because couldn't. And why I never got why so many people were taking it as a given that he could or saying he'd be a great interrogator or things like that.

I feel like for a lot of people they act like there's no middle ground: either something is "OP" or it's totally useless, and act as if a power can't both have reasonable limitations while still being good.

Edited by LSBK on Feb 5th 2020 at 1:59:35 PM

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#38282: Feb 5th 2020 at 10:56:07 PM

I have to wonder though how La Brava found out that was her Quirk. If it only works for the person she loves most, did it originally work for someone else before Gentle and it just keeps changing on her? Or was she for all intents and purposes as good as quirkless until she met Gentle?

I always figured Shinso would make a good trapper and Underground Hero. Just dress in casual clothes like a hoodie, approach the target, say something, then when he responds, slap some cuffs or use some rope and BAM, he's got em. Hell, the mask reinforced that idea since it would let him mimic others voices and make it easier to trick them into responding.

Edited by RebelFalcon on Feb 5th 2020 at 2:01:02 PM

Rodimus: Self-sacrifice, Magnus— It's cheap. It's a cheap way out. I need to live so I can make amends.
IniuriaTalis Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: Love, football, the arts, the occasional pint
#38283: Feb 5th 2020 at 10:58:59 PM

If it isn't limited to romantic love, then she probably used it by accident on one of her parents first.

And I think in Shinsou's case a lot of people just sympathized with him being isolated for his powers, so they liked to imagine that those powers were actually better and more useful than anyone else's.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#38284: Feb 5th 2020 at 11:00:41 PM

Man, that would be kind of awkward for the other parent, wouldn't it?

IniuriaTalis Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: Love, football, the arts, the occasional pint
#38285: Feb 5th 2020 at 11:02:13 PM

I'm just imagining the awkward situation where she has multiple kids, and has to explain why only one/only her husband gets the power boost...

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devak They call me.... Prophet Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
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#38286: Feb 5th 2020 at 11:12:26 PM

Shinso's limits were brought up as they were needed, but so far it's all consistent, indicating Horikoshi did think about the limits and implications beforehand. He notably brainwashes his "horse" one by one, they never speak and they are never made to do complicated tasks.

And yea, Love would be awkward for the parents. It's one thing if your husband/wife gets the power. But imagine the kids: "why does only my brother get stronger mom? Don't you love me?"

In addition, it probably worked on someone else before La Brava met gentle. Her parents, probably, then her crush, then Gentle. It might also get stronger the more she loves someone, e.g. platonic love is weaker than romantic love.

Edited by devak on Feb 5th 2020 at 8:14:24 PM

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#38287: Feb 5th 2020 at 11:20:50 PM

Her power could evolve for multiple people, but likely still with the one she loves most getting the biggest boost.

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Wispy Since: Feb, 2017
#38288: Feb 5th 2020 at 11:25:40 PM

La Brava had a crush in high school, you can see this briefly in the new ending scenes for the anime. Her crush as the white hair I am pretty sure. Beyond that though I have no clue. I am suspecting that she found out how her quirk works with her parents via platonic love but I dunno. About her parents though...

I have a very high suspicion that La Brava did not have a good homelife considering how she was heavily implied to be possibly suicidal and a shut-in after her last year of school and before she found Gentle. I don't think good parents would of let her go without support but then again Japan has a different culture for parenting I guess.

I also wonder if quirks really do effect peoples personalities to a degree. La Brava had stalkerish tendecies, which somewhat makes sense considering her quirk has to do with love.

Edited by Wispy on Feb 5th 2020 at 11:26:58 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#38289: Feb 5th 2020 at 11:27:47 PM

Well she did become obsessed with Gentle.

People who have relatively healthy upbringings & mindsets wouldn't become so obsessed with a guy like him.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Cozzer Since: Mar, 2015
#38290: Feb 6th 2020 at 12:33:24 AM

I think she's a milder version of what happened to Toga: being a part of your body, a Quirk wants to be used, which can give you pretty unconvenient urges. I think La Brava's Quirk is tied to how she tends to get obsessed with her crushes, though it's hard to say how big a part this plays in her personality.

Re-Destro and the Liberation Front's mentality tends towards "you are your Quirk" (see also Shigaraki and how he seems to have accepted he's just an avatar of destruction), so I expect this mentality to be proven wrong, but it's undeniable that there is some sort of tie.

Edited by Cozzer on Feb 6th 2020 at 9:33:47 PM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#38291: Feb 6th 2020 at 12:43:35 AM

My guess is that even if the Quirk does lead to certain urges, it's still up to them to decide whether or not to act on them. It's choice that determines who they are, not the Quirk.

Edited by M84 on Feb 7th 2020 at 4:43:49 AM

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#38292: Feb 6th 2020 at 12:46:36 AM

Nature and Nurture both play a role in these kinds of situations.

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#38293: Feb 6th 2020 at 12:49:11 AM

[up][up]Tell that to Toga. She snapped because of suppressing the urges for too long, and now she is nothing but a slave to them, turning her into the Serial Killer yandere she is today. So I don't think "willpower" is enough on its own.

Edited by RebelFalcon on Feb 6th 2020 at 3:51:43 PM

Rodimus: Self-sacrifice, Magnus— It's cheap. It's a cheap way out. I need to live so I can make amends.
Cozzer Since: Mar, 2015
#38294: Feb 6th 2020 at 12:52:11 AM

Yeah, it's pretty clear that the setting still lacks a perfect way to deal with this issue (and I assume there just isn't one, just like there isn't one perfect way to deal with real-world atypical urges). They do their best with mandatory Quirk counsealing, but some cases still slip through the cracks.

It's one of several parts of the worldbuilding of this manga that I find really neat.

Edited by Cozzer on Feb 6th 2020 at 9:53:30 PM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#38295: Feb 6th 2020 at 12:55:38 AM

[up][up]It seems more like the added pressure of being forced to keep up appearances by her parents was what caused her to snap.

Just as in real life, the biological urges are never as problematic as the societal and familial pressure.

It's entirely possible she could have handled her urges in a healthier way if her parents hadn't treated her as a monster that needed to be suppressed.

Edited by M84 on Feb 7th 2020 at 4:59:59 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
devak They call me.... Prophet Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
They call me.... Prophet
#38296: Feb 6th 2020 at 2:22:18 AM

I thought it was pretty clear that Toga snapped because she was never just allowed to deal with her urges. Like, the worst she did as a kid was see a bird and tried to drink it's blood. It's not after years and years that she snaps and attacks a human, implying that occasionally letting her drink blood would have fixed everything.

Given the variety of quirks and thus by necessity the variety of kinks, habits and quirk combos, I refuse to believe she couldnt have found a person who didn't mind his blood being drunk.

Like, we have rock monsters and frogs and invisible people and 4-armed and pinheaded and elemental people hooking up. Someone out there has a quirk where they have sweet blood that needs to periodically drained, or someone who heals or feels no pain from blood drinking.

Hell, Vlad King seems to have a quirk where he manipulates his own blood and Stain needed blood. "I periodically need to drink blood to control my urges" seems pretty doable.

Cozzer Since: Mar, 2015
#38297: Feb 6th 2020 at 2:35:12 AM

[up]I assume there's various kinds of counselors around. Maybe Toga was unlucky and got a bad one, who focused on making her "less disturbing" for others instead of helping her find ways to satisfy her urges without hurting anyone. I guess there's lots of heroes that might be in the Villain Alliance right now were they born in the wrong family and/or had the wrong counselor. (That's almost expicitly stated with the parallels between young Tenko and young Izuku, but it's a big theme of the story lately)

Edited by Cozzer on Feb 6th 2020 at 11:38:34 AM

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#38299: Feb 6th 2020 at 2:49:20 AM

There are vampires in fiction that do just that, after all. They eat very rare steak. Cassidy from Preacher for example, much to the disgust of his pals.

"What?! It's medium rare!"

"Medium rare? I practically heard it moo!"

Edited by M84 on Feb 6th 2020 at 6:53:16 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
devak They call me.... Prophet Since: Jul, 2019 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
They call me.... Prophet
#38300: Feb 6th 2020 at 3:05:06 AM

[up][up][up]it's not really clear whether this is failure of the system or of individual councillors. There is prejudice against heteromorphic types, it may be that blood powers fall under "powers considered villainous" such as Brainwashing.

Shinsou feels no compulsion to brainwash or dominate people though, so my guess is that quirks influence people as much as any other body part: to some it is a fascination, to others it is meaningless


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