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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#35401: Nov 9th 2019 at 7:52:52 PM

They had no way of knowing that.

Lemillion was sticking to the plan as ordered by their boss.

I mean, Overhaul went to lead them to their deaths at the earliest possibility (though mostly because Deku forced the issue), so it's a good thing things ended the way they did at that time. Anything else likely would have ended in their deaths, and a blown case.

One Strip! One Strip!
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#35402: Nov 9th 2019 at 7:53:24 PM

[up][up][up]I can't tell if you're being serious or not, but that idea sounds very bad fan-ficy. But, yes, the idea that things ultimately turned out better because they didn't act at the time is brought up by Nighteye. And you could say it's just a rationalization on his part and we're not actually supposed to agree, but that's not the impression I got from the scene in question.

Regarding Dabi's burns, they have very clear, almost "clean" borders that makes them being accidental seem unlikely. And that's not even getting into all the piercings.

Edited by LSBK on Nov 9th 2019 at 9:55:26 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#35403: Nov 9th 2019 at 7:55:11 PM

I like how compared to a lot of scarred evil siblings, Dabi doesn't have just like a minor facial scar or anything like that.

Instead he has burned skin all over his body. Looking at him you can instantly tell that he is a man who has suffered & is disturbed inside.

Edited by slimcoder on Nov 9th 2019 at 7:55:27 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#35404: Nov 9th 2019 at 8:10:17 PM

It is even worse since it turns out Lemillion’s Quirk is a perfect counter to Chisaki’s Quirk. If he had taken initiative he might very well have been able to beat Chisaki then and there.

Disgusted, but not surprised
HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#35405: Nov 9th 2019 at 8:26:44 PM

Provided Chisaki didn't get him first...or get Deku.

There were a lot of risks in trying to fight him right then and there. Remember what happened to Magne.

Just one touch...just one mistake, and there goes not only One For All, but the only other person besides Deku who was thought worthy of it and a powerful potential hero in his own right.

They made the right choice.

One Strip! One Strip!
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#35406: Nov 9th 2019 at 8:28:06 PM

Did they know Chisaki's quirk at that point? Even if they did, they likely didn't know the extent of it. Plus they were out in the open in a city street on top of everything already mentioned.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#35407: Nov 9th 2019 at 8:31:04 PM

Damn Tokuda from the season 4 recap episode's got some major principles.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Envyus Since: Jun, 2011
#35408: Nov 9th 2019 at 8:42:34 PM

Also they did not have any legal right to take Eri away from Chisaki. Particularly after she went with him willingly.

Also the stuff around Dabi is stated as being skin grafts. So I imagine his skin looks even worse below it.

Edited by Envyus on Nov 9th 2019 at 9:43:12 AM

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#35409: Nov 9th 2019 at 8:48:53 PM

Wait, where was that stated?

STRX Since: Jul, 2013
#35410: Nov 9th 2019 at 8:50:17 PM

[up] Technically Chisaki was the whole reason Eri's grandfather couldn't take care of her and he's not actually her father, so not only did he commit a crime getting to become her official guardian, he's not her official guardian. In the real world can't you get arrested for that though?

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#35411: Nov 9th 2019 at 8:56:21 PM

You can't just kidnap a kid and assume that everything will work out, you know.

Oh God! Natural light!
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#35412: Nov 9th 2019 at 8:59:37 PM

[up][up] Only if that can be proven. At that time there's nothing to say Overhaul isn't Eri's guardian/parent.

[down] Because STRX did. Just felt the courteous thing to do.

Edited by sgamer82 on Nov 9th 2019 at 10:04:02 AM

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#35413: Nov 9th 2019 at 9:01:11 PM

Why did you spoiler that? This isn't the anime only thread, everyone knows the details of what we're talking about.

Anyway, you say it as if the authorities have any context to how her Grandfather got in that condition in the first place.

They wouldn't, and with a lack of overt villain activity, her staying with them instead of foster care or something would still probably be pretty likely.

Edited by LSBK on Nov 9th 2019 at 11:01:56 AM

WashTheLaundryHero Since: Jun, 2019
#35414: Nov 10th 2019 at 2:20:22 AM

Considering Deku and Mirio both come to regret not helping Eri and that's their main motivation for the arc, I'm not sure what's even the argument here. All this stuff is explicitly brought up in the story itself.

About Dabi, I think it's possible the family thinks he cremated himself and left no body behind, rather than just dying from burns.

MagnumForce Since: Feb, 2017
#35415: Nov 10th 2019 at 2:51:55 AM

[up] Yeah, and seeing as not helping Eri lead to Chisaki finishing the serum and that serum ending up with someone worse than Chisaki, Mirio getting deQuirked and Nighteye getting killed, I don't think Horikoshi meant for "letting the little girl go back to a clearly abusive 'parent'" to be the right decision there.

Cozzer Since: Mar, 2015
#35416: Nov 10th 2019 at 3:24:12 AM

I think there was no right decision, considering how limited the information they had were and how little time they had to choose. It's also possible that any other choice would have gone even worse, and this scenario, as grim as it is, is still the best one.

Elfive (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#35417: Nov 10th 2019 at 4:06:22 AM

With hindsight, picking Eri up and running would have been the right move, but at the time her importance wasn't clear, and they were scared that doing that would jeopardise the mission.

So they hesitated, and Overhaul took that opportunity to coerce Eri into coming back to him, at which point there was nothing they could do.

SalFishFin Since: Jan, 2001
#35418: Nov 10th 2019 at 4:52:25 AM

Of course, that hinges upon them willingly entering a dark alley with someone that 1) they know is super dangerous 2) is obviously mistreating the child that has run into them and is currently clinging to them for dear life.

It's possible that certain services work differently in Japan, wasn't their suspicion enough that they could try to get the police involved? Take her to a hospital? Whatever the Japanese equivalent of Child Protective Services is?

JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing
#35419: Nov 10th 2019 at 5:27:16 AM

It's really a case of Audience Awareness Advantage and hindsight being 20/20. Yeah, from the perspective of someone out of universe who knows more about Overhaul and how the story is likely to turn out it can be argued that grabbing her and running would've been a good idea, but Deku and Mirio aren't that well informed and had no way of coming to that conclusion with what intel they had.

There's also the fact that technically both of them are still provisional heroes, and we know that the setting has some pretty persnickety rules about exactly when heroes are allowed to get involved in the first place, meaning that even if grabbing Eri would've been the best thing to do from a pragmatic perspective, from a legal perspective doing so without sufficient cause could've screwed up the whole case against Overhaul. It was a screwed up situation where neither option was particularly ideal.

And that's without even getting into the fact that Overhaul could've oneshotted either or both of them if they weren't super careful.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#35420: Nov 10th 2019 at 7:56:58 AM

I don't think "they regretted it so we're suppossed to think they made the right call" is a strong argument here.

I don't think either of them is the kind of person who couldn't feel terrible about leaving someone in that position, even if pragmatically it might have been the right call.

STRX Since: Jul, 2013
#35421: Nov 10th 2019 at 8:26:50 AM

[up]x3 The bandages on her arms would be a dead giveaway for a cop. Then again while Overhaul isn’t like super quick, his reaction speed is impressive.

[up]x8 just wanted to be safe than sorry.

[up]x2 Fair point, especially given the legal issues that happened after Dekuroki and Iida fought Stain

[up] Regardless of how you look it at, either scenario has risks and rewards.I was just considering best case scenario then.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#35422: Nov 10th 2019 at 2:21:11 PM

Reading the official English chapter I noticed something I'd missed the first time around. A surprised Face Fault from Shoto after he found out Natsu cooked.

Also, Natsu said Shoto might not have been allowed to eat his cooking because it was too rich. Can't remember offhand if the fan translations covered it that way.

Also some Bakugo hilarity:

Bakugo: YER NOT S'POSED TO EXPOSE YOUR DIRTY LAUNDRY TO GUESTS!! Also, any more dishes to wash?!

He's such a good and bad guest at the same time. At the same time, you know your manners are bad when Bakugo has to lecture you.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#35423: Nov 10th 2019 at 3:54:30 PM

The official translation kind of specifies that Shoto is willing to forgive Endeavor, but the latter hasn't really done anything yet to warrant it.

Soo...now the question becomes what Endeavor has to do.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#35424: Nov 10th 2019 at 4:58:46 PM

Given how he acts in the most recent chapter I'm wondering if Endeavor isn't trying to apologize because he doesn't expect his family to forgive him if he does.

Bewitching Eyes
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#35425: Nov 10th 2019 at 5:02:30 PM

Think its a combination of that and feeling like that his family would be much happier if he wasn't around. So...I think he's approaching Death Seeker territory and feels the only way he can atone is if he sacrifices himself.

Makes sense too after Shoto gave him a reality check a few chapters ago after he felt like he was making progress with him.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.

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