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Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#28376: Mar 30th 2019 at 10:49:27 AM

If John's quirk was originally Midoriya's then i'd say Ujiko did him a favor by taking it, it's just plain gross.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#28377: Mar 30th 2019 at 10:56:05 AM

but it feels like Deku more than got compensated for his loss, so what do you guys think would be the purpose?

That's kind of the crux of why I don't like the idea; whatever hardships in his past, you can't say that ultimately his life won't be better for how things are than if they never happened.

If the story actually did go the route of "strange things happen, but this was actually a blessing in a way" that could work, but I don't think that's what most people are actually thinking.

IniuriaTalis Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: Love, football, the arts, the occasional pint
#28378: Mar 30th 2019 at 11:46:18 AM

[up][up]You say that, but imagine how useful it would be in any given rescue mission.

That said, given John's size and the fact that he has a name I'm assuming that he was once one of those kindergartners.

Edited by IniuriaTalis on Mar 30th 2019 at 2:58:53 PM

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Druplesnubb Editor of Posts Since: Dec, 2013
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#28379: Mar 30th 2019 at 12:51:42 PM

As I've mentioned before, the only way I ca nseethis actually matter for the story would be AFO utrying to tempt izuku with revealing and/or returning his original quirk. Note that the "stolen quirk" theory doesn't actually need to be true for this to happen, it just needs to be plausible.

Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#28380: Mar 30th 2019 at 12:53:44 PM

“And go through a learning process all over again? After mastering so many already? Fuck that!”

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asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#28381: Mar 30th 2019 at 12:54:59 PM

"Dude, I already have, like, eight Quirks. Why would I want another one?"

Edited by asterism on Mar 30th 2019 at 7:55:24 PM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#28382: Mar 30th 2019 at 12:56:58 PM

I feel like the other Quirks will be very useful because Ujiko will finally develop a way to counter or nullify OFA’s strength.

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Bocaj Funny but not helpful from Here or thereabouts (4 Score & 7 Years Ago) Relationship Status: Pining for the fjords
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#28383: Mar 30th 2019 at 12:58:31 PM

Also I had to skip like ten pages but there was a note of huge ambiguity to Shigaraki's past, right? Not just me?

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asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#28384: Mar 30th 2019 at 1:01:42 PM

yeah

One does get the impression that if All for One took off his mask he'd have 'Svengali' tattooed on his forehead

Edited by asterism on Mar 30th 2019 at 8:02:30 AM

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#28385: Mar 30th 2019 at 1:10:52 PM

As I've said I don't like the "All For One took Izuku's Quirk" theories for a variety of reasons, but on the off chance that he decides to go the route of "One For All somehow made the Quirk he would have had show up" I might be more open to that. Still not totally sold, though.

If something like that were to happen, I could see him talking the vestige of All Might about it. It could give him a purpose like the others, who presumably will all get a chance to talk to Izuku about what their Quirks are.

Edit: And, yeah, I don't see how tempting Izuku with a former Quirk at all. Even if he didn't have One For All and these six other Quirks I wouldn't see him going for that, let alone with them. And All For One would definitely realize there wouldn't even be a point in trying.

Edited by LSBK on Mar 30th 2019 at 3:15:08 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#28386: Mar 30th 2019 at 1:21:41 PM

Also I had to skip like ten pages but there was a note of huge ambiguity to Shigaraki's past, right? Not just me?

Not just you. We all took note that there's still a large number of holes and coincidences about the entire thing. While most people are against it, the idea that One For All was more involved in what happened to Shiragaki's parent's deaths then he's letting on is on the table.

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SalFishFin Since: Jan, 2001
#28387: Mar 30th 2019 at 2:01:20 PM

Honestly I tend to play Devil's Advocate for some theories that I think might have an interesting angle to offer (or, at least, follow along with Horikoshi's Shout-Out tendencies), but i just read a theory that Bakugou, through some sort of TimeTravel shenanigans, ends up being one of the previous holders and I just. Can't.

Granted, Horikoshi practically traced Bakugou's model for one of the previous holders' silhouettes, but I'd rather attribute that to him being on a time crunch and not having time to come up with one.

Edited by SalFishFin on Mar 30th 2019 at 5:03:53 AM

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#28388: Mar 30th 2019 at 2:13:11 PM

[up]I haven't seen that theory, but I'm not surprised it exists, for the reason you said.

Edit: The bit about how Horikoshi could be reusing and old character from a previous, cancelled, series (a female one) is interesting though. He has done that before.

I do find it funny how that person claims Bakugo actually being one of the silhouettes the "simplest answer" and then proceed to lay out an elaborate time-travel theory. Though, they do acknowledge that.

Edited by LSBK on Mar 30th 2019 at 4:33:30 AM

MagnumForce Since: Feb, 2017
#28389: Mar 30th 2019 at 3:35:55 PM

[up][up] That was impressively unconvincing.

Most of the theories in this fandom (and all others to be fair) is of the "fling shit at wall, see a little sticks, yell about success" kind. They are forced, reaching and takes massive leaps, but we have so many some of them will end up being right, fueling more crackpot theories down the line. Yeah, some traitor theory is going to be true because we have so many variants ONE of them has to be.

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#28390: Mar 30th 2019 at 3:40:23 PM

Most of the theories in this fandom (and all others to be fair) is of the "fling shit at wall, see a little sticks, yell about success" kind.

Well, those are the best kind my friend.cool

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#28391: Mar 30th 2019 at 3:49:53 PM

[up][up]It's kind of inevitable, but also partially why I don't bother looking at them for most things.

Going on this theory though, seeing how we've seen Izuku can actually talk to the vestiges, and they can show him things in the past, that would basically defeat the point of any time-travel things. And since the grander point seemed to just be to force Bakugo into having One For All for some fanfiction made real deal, yeah, I wasn't into it.

Edited by LSBK on Mar 30th 2019 at 5:51:13 AM

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#28392: Mar 30th 2019 at 3:53:23 PM

Bakugou just being given One for All anyway kinda ruins the point of his character

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Druplesnubb Editor of Posts Since: Dec, 2013
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#28393: Mar 30th 2019 at 5:26:13 PM

Even if Bakugo travels through time and gets One For All, the succession order means that he would either have to return it before going back to the present or time travel a second time.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#28394: Mar 30th 2019 at 5:28:24 PM

It's not just Bakugou. Kirishima too.

And as I recall from those who thought of it when ai talked to them they weren't thrilled with the idea themselves.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Mar 30th 2019 at 5:28:41 AM

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Daremo Misanthrope Supreme from Parts Unknown Since: May, 2010 Relationship Status: If it's you, it's okay
#28395: Mar 30th 2019 at 6:03:29 PM

John has Deku's Quirk

Well, it does involve something being emitted from one's mouth, like Izuku's dad... and it involves moving things like Izuku's mom...

Hmmm. Let me think about this for a second.

Edited by Daremo on Mar 30th 2019 at 9:04:18 AM

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#28396: Mar 30th 2019 at 7:53:42 PM

[up][up]Really, the idea just has major conceptual flaws. Even assuming a time-travel Quirk exists (which it easily could) unless Kirishima and Bakugo are spending years in the past, the theory basically amounts to "they each independently got the power, then gave it to someone else before meaningfully doing anything."

It's trying to explain the silhouette away, in way that doesn't actually meaningfully add anything, and would just be for pure shock value.

TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#28397: Mar 30th 2019 at 8:56:56 PM

Meh, rather for the theory that those two were Villains back in their time and the reason they're hiding in the shadows, could be due to them being recognizable villains in-verse. Which might freak Deku out if caught unprepared with the revelation that OFA passed down through not just heroes...

So they'll just let the others ease him up first with their quirk-tutorials until that time comes...

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#28398: Mar 30th 2019 at 8:59:26 PM

[up]I've been equating those two things. Those two would have obvious significance if he saw them, where as the others are less noticeable.

Edited by LSBK on Mar 30th 2019 at 11:04:18 AM

TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#28399: Mar 30th 2019 at 9:11:02 PM

[up] Even more so if one (or both) of them used to be high-ranking AFO-aides with some seriously good inside-info on the man from within the organization in question, but unable to share it due to the state of OFA until now...

Edited by TitanJump on Mar 30th 2019 at 5:35:46 PM

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#28400: Mar 31st 2019 at 3:51:02 AM

I'm a big fan of the theory that Destro had One for All at some point

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