My Hero Academia

Huh I checked my volumes & noticed that the end of season 3 adapted most of volume 14with all that’s left being Overhaul & Shigaraki’s encounter which season 3 ended just as they met.

So season 3 adapted volumes 9 to 14, 6 volumes & then there’s how the license exam arc had some filler eps so they prolly could have adapted more of it wasn’t for that.

Now if season 4 adapts 6 volumes too then the Overhaul Arc encompasses volumes 15 to 18 so 4 volumes & then 19 & 20 contains Bakugo & Shouto retaking the test, Endeavor’s talkmwith All Might, & the Gentle arc which ends in vol 20 with the final chapters starting the Pro Hero arc.

So yeah season 4 can most likely end on the Gentle arc.

No that's a mutation type quirk your thinking of, someone with a transformation type quirk can look normal when it's not in use.

Then in that case, no, I still wouldn't bet on any body horror or transforming issues.

All for One can seemingly activate and deactivate what were originally permanent mutations, so it wouldn't be totally out there for One for All to do the same if a predecessor had one.

I'm not talking about Midoriya being permanently disfigured, i'm talking about something similar to when Black Whip first started to manifest.

Are you talking about "Transformer-Type" mutations?

Like, for example, a quirk that transforms the user's eyes into the ones of a dragonfly's when the quirk factor is triggered but turns back to normal when not used?

Things like that?

Yes

I know exactly what you meant, I still find it unlikely.

Anyway, I've been thinking about Gigantomachia and the significance of him having multiple Quirks without being modified. We were told that when All For One gave people Quirks sometimes they combined with whatever Quirk a person might have already had (such as One For All) or that many people often couldn't handle them and were turned into mindless dolls. Presumably the Nomus are modified so that they're able to keep functioning and take others in that state.

However, we're never told exactly how many Quirks it took to break someone, and it seems reasonably to believe it might vary from person to person. So one person might break with only two, but another might be able to take three. This is important because, besides High-End, we have never seen a Nomu confirmed to have more than two Quirks. And since High-Ends are, well, High-End and supposed to be able to have higher functionality, on top of actually being cognizant (although the firs one's mind did seem to start breaking apart by the end of the fight), part of the improvement might be that they're able to handle higher numbers of implanted Quirks, and that the old grade Nomus stopped being able to take orders if they were given more than two or three (or something like that). This would make sense and explain why All For One didn't just put like 20 Quirks in the first Nomu (that one seemed to only have two).

Now taking all of this into consideration, is where Gigantomachia comes in - we don't know how many Quirks he has, but his stamina/endurance were stated to be unbelievably high. So maybe it's less that he has multiple Quirks without modifications, and the sheer number that he has while still retaining an intact human consciousness (he's kind of out there, but he's still obviously more put together than High-End was) without modification that's remarkable.

This is just the sort of thing I'd like further clarification on, regardless of whether my specific thoughts on the matter are right or wrong.

I've been thinking of it like a Wolverine situation, where the crazy stamina is his actual, original quirk and is what lets him survive the process at all.

It's quick, simple, and would appeal to Hori's Westaboo side.

Edited by sgamer82 on Mar 27th 2019 at 12:28:45 PM

More than two.

The First Nomou, I mean...assuming he still had the original quirk he started with before he got "Shock Absorption"/"High-Speed Regeneration"/"Super Strength"/"Super Speed"/(Additional quirks) added on to him, assuming AFO didn't strip him clean before the operation or he was one of the quirkless ones at first.

Second: Gigantomachina's stamina might not be a case of being incredibly high as it could be just unchanging.

To elaborate: "Static Stamina" = "Never depletes nor does it increase despite how much the user trains it.".

Just a suggestion on how to interpret his quirk aspect of him.

Edited by TitanJump on Mar 27th 2019 at 7:32:26 PM

He was only stated to have Shock Absorption and Regeneration, and his strength was specifically noted to be just be his own separated from Quirks (I assume as a part of the modifications, somehow), there's no actual reason to qualify his speed as separate from his strength either.

Edited by LSBK on Mar 27th 2019 at 1:39:04 PM

Is that confirmed?

The super strength being his own I mean, since he was especially designed to take on All Might in a brawl...

Aizawa erased his Quirk(s) and his strength wasn't diminished at all so, yes, it's confirmed.

We know nothing about the guy who was modified either; for all we know either shock absorption or regeneration (though if I had to pick, I'd say the former) was his original Quirk and that's why they turned him into one in the first place.

Edited by LSBK on Mar 27th 2019 at 1:48:21 PM

The taking on All Might was meant to be Shock Absorption to absorb his punches, since Aizawa confirmed his strength was innate due to being unable to erase it. Given that all Noumu's had modifications into that strange form, that makes me think the modification process itself makes them incredibly powerful. Other Noumu were not as powerful but they were still way stronger than an average hero.

That All Might Nomu could have been a couple steps behind a High-End in terms of power & ability.

Edited by slimcoder on Mar 27th 2019 at 11:46:43 AM

I imagine it was. It was made to potentially kill All Might, so it being the best they had at the time makes sense to me.

Technically, if the first Nomu's strength was part of a mutation quirk, Aizawa wouldnt have been able to erase it anyway.

How do you think the Noumus actually break (in the brain) from the Quirk Overload? (Now while the topic is on them, that is.)

Spiritually, psychologically, mentally or physically?

Depending on how they're broken, would there be hope for them to recover some sanity after all...or are they so gone that they would be better off with a Mercy Kill?

What do you all think?

Edited by TitanJump on Mar 28th 2019 at 6:12:00 PM

Whatever the hell is wrong with them, it's clearly beyond the authorities' current means to fix them. To even begin to fix them would probably require removing the extra Quirks for starters. And that would require AFO or the Quirk destroying bullets.

If the Noumu transformation procedure also involved messing around with their brains, the Noumus may very well be beyond help entirely. At that point even removing the extra Quirks wouldn't be enough.

Edited by M84 on Mar 29th 2019 at 1:26:29 AM

Sensory overload probably?

There's probably a hefty amount of brainwashing involved too to make Noumus either near mindless attack dogs or slightly more autonomous attack dogs.

As for Gigantomachia...I'm starting to think he may very well have been something of a precursor or a Super Prototype to the Noumus.

Edited by M84 on Mar 29th 2019 at 1:30:11 AM

The Nomus are mindless (or close to it) because having multiple Quirks puts too much strain on the brain, causing mental faculties to shut down. We were told this during the discussion about All For One, and the connection/similarity to the Nomus was specifically noted.

Which is why I mentioned in the big post above the Nomus aren't modified to be mindless they're modified to still be able to take orders while mindless as opposed to just being comatose and unable to actually do anything.

Though we have to keep in mind the Wing Nomu - Horikoshi hinted that the reason it specifically tried to fly off with Izuku is because it recognized him probably because it was his childhood friend Tsubasa (which again, I have to point out how extra fucked up that is, because Tsubasa is Ujiko's grandson) which implies that some semblance of the person is still in there, even if 99% of the time they can't express it in a meaningful way.

Which is why I provided actual options for the broken aspect of them to begin with in my question.

Spiritually = The soul itself is broken. (Empty Shell. A meat puppet.)

Mentally = The "human" aspect is broken, (practically an invalid with a still functioning body, comatose patient, brain gone, body still alive. A zombie (the real type, aka, alive but braindead due to drugs).)

Psychologically = The "personal" aspect is broken. (Death of identity, practically a amnesiac with still functioning brain in term of obeying orders and the like. A robot.)

Physically = The "Living" aspect is broken. (Meaning that the damage is actually done on the lobes and the brain, a walking lobotomy study in a sense. A walking corpse (forcefully kept alive artificially unlike those "mentally" broken who can still function without help).)

This is what I was asking about. In what way have they broken apart?

Hope this clarified matters...

In that case, I honestly see no reason to separate the first three from one another, and I doubt there's any actual physical damage done to brain.

Edited by LSBK on Mar 28th 2019 at 1:19:34 PM

If the damage isn't physical in any way, then how on earth would multiple quirks be capable of breaking a human being in such a severe manner?

Lobes intact, neuron-network intact, chemical balance intact, functions intact...

How would the overload be abel to take effect if none of these are what gets affected by it?