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vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
vicarious
#28151: Mar 21st 2019 at 4:40:04 PM

Then that’d make him an ever longer term threat than Af O

Think of already all the illegal Quirk enhancements or countermeasures

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#28152: Mar 21st 2019 at 5:16:36 PM

I see one more chapter of this, maybe two if we see how they get in contact with Hawks here. Because we already know Shigaraki convinces Ujiko to work with them. But going from the last page, we might get a little more insight into Spinner, which is also good.

Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#28153: Mar 21st 2019 at 7:03:45 PM

I've been wondering, can All-For-One steal mutation type quirks?

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#28154: Mar 21st 2019 at 7:07:54 PM

[up]Yes. We saw him doing so in that flashback dream in chapter 193. The first thing we see is AFO demonstrating his power for his younger brother by removing a Quirk that is mutating one guy's jaw.

Edited by M84 on Mar 21st 2019 at 10:09:22 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#28155: Mar 21st 2019 at 7:20:12 PM

Of course, all of those people were presumably people who started randomly mutating, and weren't born like that.

Now there are plenty of people who are born with the mutations and don't have a "normal" form to go back to, so I wonder if anything bad happens to if he were to take that away.

JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing
#28156: Mar 21st 2019 at 7:40:59 PM

Looks like Shirageki is about to undergo some Character Development.

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IniuriaTalis Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: Love, football, the arts, the occasional pint
#28157: Mar 21st 2019 at 7:45:31 PM

Theory: Deku didn't have a good quirk that was stolen by Ujiko, but everyone who did was kidnapped and Noumufied or de-quirked, so him being born quirkless was actually a blessing that he'll only realize when he sees just how far past the Moral Event Horizon Tsubasa/Ujiko is.

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M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#28158: Mar 21st 2019 at 7:48:38 PM

[up]It's been speculated for a while now that that one kid with wings way back when was turned into the flying Noumu.

On another note...this doctor is a monster on so many levels. What he's doing is a gross violation of everything a doctor is supposed to stand for.

Edited by M84 on Mar 21st 2019 at 10:50:51 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
IniuriaTalis Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: Love, football, the arts, the occasional pint
#28159: Mar 21st 2019 at 7:51:15 PM

Considering that he was too old to just be learning of his quirk then, it's likely that the doctor was keeping tabs on him for a while before kidnapping him so as to avoid suspicion.

Oh, and friendly reminder that the Noumu creation facility is hidden behind a Kindergarten.

Edited by IniuriaTalis on Mar 21st 2019 at 10:52:06 AM

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#28160: Mar 21st 2019 at 7:55:52 PM

AFO sure knows how to pick em.

He wanted a mad scientist & boy oh boy did he strike gold with Ujiko.

[up][up][up] Oooooh I love that theory now. [tup]

It makes him "lucky" in the most horrifying way. evil grin

Edited by slimcoder on Mar 21st 2019 at 7:59:51 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#28161: Mar 21st 2019 at 7:56:13 PM

[up][up][up][up]I really like that idea.

[up][up][up]As I mentioned before, that kid isn't just any kid, it's his actual grandson (Tsubasa is that kid's first name). Yeah...

Anyway, just to home it in anymore, the doctor from the first episode of the anime, and the doctor with All for One (the first time we see him in person) have the same voice actor.

Edited by LSBK on Mar 21st 2019 at 9:57:57 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#28162: Mar 21st 2019 at 7:59:02 PM

Fellow TV Tropes poster Burr once posted "You can't make an omelette without breaking some children" in reference to Kingdom Hearts' Master of Masters being a manipulative asshat who engineered a cataclysmic war with child soldier Keyblade wielders for some mysterious reason.

I think that comment probably applies to AFO and Ujiko as well.

Edited by M84 on Mar 21st 2019 at 10:59:53 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
IniuriaTalis Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: Love, football, the arts, the occasional pint
#28163: Mar 21st 2019 at 8:00:23 PM

All you need to do is take a glance at Shimura Tenko to know just how willing AfO is to break children.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#28164: Mar 21st 2019 at 10:03:56 PM

To be fair, Tenko was already broken when All For One came around; he just decided to keep him that way. (This is of course assuming any theories about All For One orchestrating Tenko's parents deaths in the first place [or whatever tragic thing happened with him] won't be true.)

Edited by LSBK on Mar 21st 2019 at 12:04:49 PM

TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#28165: Mar 22nd 2019 at 8:18:20 AM

If Tomura's goal turns out to be "Create a world where everyone can save themselves." (based on his personal experiences that nobody came to save him and he was too weak to do so himself.) then I think that it would be quite refreshing for a villain to have such a "good" goal, but go for it through "bad" means...

Just a thought.

Comun Since: Jun, 2012
#28166: Mar 22nd 2019 at 9:17:31 AM

That's more in line with what Detnerat wants. That said, Shigaraki is still on the point where hasn't decided his goal yet, so taking these ideas from the them is perfectly valid.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#28167: Mar 22nd 2019 at 11:14:53 AM

Someone else brought up that maybe improving the nomus might come back to bite the villains in the ass, and I have to wonder the same thing.

As they manage to stabilize the High-Ends minds, I wonder if they might start remembering how they used to be, and also might not like what's happened to them.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#28168: Mar 22nd 2019 at 11:21:08 AM

Or, possibly worse, really really like what was done to them. Maybe consider whether they need to follow the League or strike out on their own.

Edited by sgamer82 on Mar 22nd 2019 at 12:21:42 PM

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#28169: Mar 22nd 2019 at 11:24:11 AM

Yeah, that was my second thought. Could have some interesting stuff either way.

Makes me wonder if turning the Nomus back to normal is ever going to come up.

Edited by LSBK on Mar 22nd 2019 at 1:24:37 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#28170: Mar 22nd 2019 at 11:27:59 AM

I can imagine them becoming so intelligent they might regain some semblance of individuality even if they never regain their original memories.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#28171: Mar 22nd 2019 at 11:54:09 AM

[up][up] It all depends on them figuring out what the hell the Nomu creation process involves, then they can start thinking about reversing it.

Wake me up at your own risk.
Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#28172: Mar 22nd 2019 at 12:06:21 PM

The fact the original High End tears his regenerating head off to survive Endeavor's attack indicates a sense of self-preservation, this may cause the other High End's to rebel when they realize they're just being made to fight and get killed by superheroes.

Edited by Kaiseror on Mar 22nd 2019 at 2:07:04 PM

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#28173: Mar 22nd 2019 at 12:17:16 PM

Not if they're programmed to be evil.

But the Doctor looks like Eggman so one will rebel eventually.

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#28174: Mar 22nd 2019 at 12:32:14 PM

[up] How do you "program" someone to be evil? Although that could still backfire if they decide being evil means betraying their allies.

Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#28175: Mar 22nd 2019 at 12:35:02 PM

Personality/memory rewriting.

Wake me up at your own risk.

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