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TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#28126: Mar 21st 2019 at 10:13:55 AM

Isn't really much of a narrow down now, is it?

Besides, who to say they're not petri-dish "children" (aka "homunculi"), grown from scratch through quirks, donor genetic materials, and the reason for them being smarter, might not be due to being more advanced, but for being born with multiple quirks from the get-go and better adapted to them overall?

Just a thought.

In that case, the Doctor wouldn't have to resort to abduct people anymore, beyond getting genetic samples of quirks to infuse in the creations...

danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#28127: Mar 21st 2019 at 10:26:26 AM

Easier to work from a baseline and add on/modify than to make something from scratch. And by recognize, I meant more looking at general body shape/structure and any particularly standout mutation quirks. Like that one Nomu who was strongly implied to be Bakugou's childhood friend.

TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#28128: Mar 21st 2019 at 10:37:30 AM

I think the opinions on that might be a bit more diverse regarding pros and cons about petri-dish creations and bio-engineering modifications...

That aside.

I see, however, we really don't know how High-End got Muscular's quirk, considering that that guy is in jail as of now...so...

How did that genetic material get involved in this creature?

(Besides, in order to create a masterpiece of a new race, it must have the ability of reproduction in order to become self-sufficient. Intelligence is another factor of course...and if the Doctor is a mad scientist to that degree, there might be a reason to why there is a female High-End in development among the test tubes...)

vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
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#28129: Mar 21st 2019 at 11:23:58 AM

I wouldn't be surprised if the good doctor has had genetic material on hand of all the members to use for Quirk replication thanks to All for One

I'm with dan in hoping those Noumus aren't anyone we know, because this really drives home how fucked it is to become that.

... Actually makes me wonder if the one Noumu who first challenged All Might is still alive and in custody.

Edited by vicarious on Mar 21st 2019 at 2:25:08 PM

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#28130: Mar 21st 2019 at 11:25:03 AM

Not only does the Doctor look like Eggman, he even likes to go evil santa laugh ("HO HO HO HO") like Eggman does too.

If Chikao Otsuka had still been alive, I bet the anime team would have casted him as the doctor.

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Comun Since: Jun, 2012
#28131: Mar 21st 2019 at 11:32:32 AM

The anime already cast someone as the doctor.

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#28132: Mar 21st 2019 at 11:34:10 AM

I know. I said if if he HAD been alive, he probably would have been casted as the doctor as a sort of Casting Gag.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#28133: Mar 21st 2019 at 11:57:40 AM

But seriously, I'm just going to point out that we've seen "Ujiko"'s face before, at the same time we saw All for One, in fact. Which kind of makes me wonder what's the point of framing things like this, but whatever.

As for how he can have the same Quirk that All for One used, All for One did say he lost a lot of the Quirks he had after his first fight with All Might. Maybe after he "loses" them, they go back to the original owner, and Ujiko happened to get his back?

Edited by LSBK on Mar 21st 2019 at 2:33:52 PM

danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#28134: Mar 21st 2019 at 12:15:11 PM

Or maybe at some point he stole another quirk that would seem useless until combined with another. Someone had the ability to duplicate quirks. But they're duplicated in place. Meaning the owner of the quirk just has a redundant copy of their own quirk that makes no difference whatsoever. But with All for One, since he can move quirks around, it's a broken quirk when he has it.

Comun Since: Jun, 2012
#28135: Mar 21st 2019 at 12:26:18 PM

[up][up]I guess the framing is to reinforce that Shigaraki is not seeing anything.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#28136: Mar 21st 2019 at 12:40:49 PM

[up]No, I meant for the audience. Although, people are treating this like this is something new so, eh.

And confirmation that Gigantomachia does have multiple Quirks; I had been wondering about that, but leaning against it because it seemed like they were only doing that with the nomus.

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#28137: Mar 21st 2019 at 12:43:36 PM

Some people can have multiple Quirks. One for All is technically two different powers, and it may be presented as one, but for all intents and purposes Shoto has two Quirks.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#28138: Mar 21st 2019 at 12:45:23 PM

[up]One for All is a single Quirk with more than one power. The same applies to a lot of Quirks actually, the number one example being Shoto, yes.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#28139: Mar 21st 2019 at 12:46:49 PM

Except the key point there is "presented as one quirk".

One quirk created by combining two quirks is still one quirk. One person having two or more completely different and/or unrelated quirks is the unusual thing.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#28140: Mar 21st 2019 at 12:47:47 PM

And that Gigantomachia didn't need any modifications was highlighted here, so it's clearly supposed to be rare, at the very least.

Comun Since: Jun, 2012
#28141: Mar 21st 2019 at 12:48:39 PM

One for All is 2 Quirks from 2 different people (self-transfer and accumulation) being treated as one quirk.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#28142: Mar 21st 2019 at 12:51:26 PM

But we were told that the Quirks could merge together into one when we were getting the run down on what All for One does. Evidently, that's what One for All is.

Kind of the same thing that happens when parents Quirks merge into a new thing for their kids, except without the sex.

I don't really think it's that hard to get - we've been told that "Quirk Factors" are things that are flowing through people's bodies or whatever. Presumably having multiple Quirks means having multiple, separate Quirk Factors that can be activated independently for a specific power(s). Whereas with One for All two different Quirk factors merged into one, and so now it's just one Quirk doing both of those things.

Edited by LSBK on Mar 21st 2019 at 2:55:40 PM

vicarious vicarious from NC, USA Since: Feb, 2013
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#28143: Mar 21st 2019 at 3:19:58 PM

I’m fine with multiple Quirks considering their limitations on how they affect the body. So Gigant is the rare exception probably due to one of his abilities being endurance

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#28144: Mar 21st 2019 at 3:44:11 PM

Another possibility I can think of is that the Doctor has found a way to isolate Quirks and make copies of them, independent of All For One.

It would also explain how he's able to keep on making these nomus with multiple Quirks.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#28145: Mar 21st 2019 at 3:46:18 PM

Might also explain how High-End has Muscular’s power.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#28147: Mar 21st 2019 at 3:59:15 PM

Isn't that the drug is Vigilantes that makes Quirks stronger? No, not that. I mean he's getting samples of people's Quirks from their DNA, copying it somehow, so the person gets to keep their Quirk, while they inject the copy into someone else. Or something.

All For One still probably would make doing that easier, though.

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#28148: Mar 21st 2019 at 4:05:05 PM

Kuin was able to acquire electric abilities from taking a sample from an Impromptu Villain with the same power.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#28149: Mar 21st 2019 at 4:14:40 PM

Really? Maybe something like that then, yeah.

Edited by LSBK on Mar 21st 2019 at 6:20:23 AM

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#28150: Mar 21st 2019 at 4:16:38 PM

If we are seeing Quirk-copying in action, I wonder if All For One had Ujiko look into this as a way to make sure his "power" lived on, even if he himself didn't.


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