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Gilphon (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#27976: Mar 15th 2019 at 11:09:59 AM

[up][up]Nah, there was that scene where he went out in 'disguise' and threatened Deku. He does seems to getting more comfortable without them, though.

But anyway, Spinner. I've always felt that he was less of an ideologue than he came across as- that he was imitating Stain on a really shallow and superficial level. He struck me as a guy who's angry at the world and disguises as ideology so that so that he can tell himself that his lashing out serves a higher purpose. We're seeing that here- indeed, we're seeing that on some level he acknowledges that shallowness. But I don't think he realizes just how deep that goes.

He's beginning to question the LOV, but it's not because he has any problems with their motivations or methods- despite the fact that his idol had huge problems with both those things- but rather because they're living an unglamorous life and aren't getting immediate results. He lashes out at Shiragaki not because of any real philosophical differences, but because he hates feeling directionless. After all, without clear direction, he loses the ability to convince himself that his aggression serve a purpose.

Which might indeed make the Liberation Army a more attractive alternative to him- glamour and direction are two things they give their member with ease. But it would a very cutting inditement of the character if he did- he'd be abandoning both his friends and what he claims to believe in just because the League stopped looking like an easy way out.

Edited by Gilphon on Mar 15th 2019 at 2:10:59 PM

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#27977: Mar 15th 2019 at 11:34:21 AM

Shigaraki getting more comfortable without his hands is weird, but I guess a sign of growth. And kind of interesting that Shigaraki's personal attachment to Kurogiri is alluded to here.

As for Spinner, I could see him potentially going with the Meta Liberation Army, not out of any sense of glamor or expediency, but because they better represent his actual issues anyway. Issues that, at least in rural Japan, are probably still present for a lot of other people too. Which is a bit surprising, but at the same time not really. I like how those guys weren't even anti-Quirk, they were specifically anti-Weird-looking. Makes them even more shallow.

And, seriously, yes this is happening before the High-End fight. The last chapter made that explicit.

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#27978: Mar 15th 2019 at 12:00:42 PM

Kinda weird to me that they didn't use any Quirks but I guess that's just how minor they were to the story.

JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing
#27979: Mar 15th 2019 at 12:27:39 PM

[up][up][up]I don't know if I'd see it as an indictment of his character, exactly. If anything it would demonstrate him actually taking a bit of prerogative by deliberately choosing a side according to his own ideals rather than simply latching onto whatever's closest. As far as I can tell, Spinner recognizes his own lack of direction, and largely ended up with the LOV because Stain inspired him to basically be proactive and actually try to do something. As a result, it's kind of understandable that he's getting disillusioned with the LOV because they really don't seem to have much of a mission statement, and honestly a lot of the current membership seem to be in it largely for the hell of it rather than because of loyalty to any type of long-term goal.

In essence, he joined the LOV because he thought it would give him a sense of direction and a concrete motivation to fight for, and so far it hasn't really met that standard. So it would honestly make sense for him to drop them in favor of a group that has a clearly defined ideology. It would still be immensely self-serving and disloyal, but on a personal level it would be progress because he'd be choosing a direction for himself.

Edited by JapaneseTeeth on Mar 15th 2019 at 2:30:06 PM

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danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#27980: Mar 15th 2019 at 12:31:33 PM

That and even the nebulous future direction of the LOV boils down to rampant crime and anarchy, or perhaps replicating All for One's evil overlord reign. Neither of which seem to be what Spinner is going for, since he seems to just want a world where mutant types like him don't get shit for looking the way they do. Somewhat similar experiences to Shouji, who wears the mask to not freak people out, or Tsuyu's snake friend.

Though really rural places are always gonna be behind in terms of acceptance of social norms, so maybe it wouldn't have been like this for him if he could have just moved to the city earlier in life.

Edited by danime91 on Mar 15th 2019 at 12:33:27 PM

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#27981: Mar 15th 2019 at 12:34:04 PM

Hm, now I'm kind of wishing that these Mutant-hating guys had a more prominent role - it'd be interesting if it could lead to some development for, say, Shoji (and maybe explain exactly what the deal is with Ashido and Tokoyami, who don't seem to have mutant type Quirks, even if they look like they do).

Oh God! Natural light!
slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#27982: Mar 15th 2019 at 12:35:57 PM

We might meet more of them. That prolly wasn’t the only group out there.

Man it be sad if Spinner betrays the League but damn if Shigaraki can’t provide why should he give his loyalty to the guy?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#27983: Mar 15th 2019 at 12:56:36 PM

Hopefully. I'd definitely be down for an arc like "the weirder members of Class 1-A fight the MHA version of the KKK" (or perhaps the Purifiers would be the more appropriate comparison).

Edited by KarkatTheDalek on Mar 15th 2019 at 3:56:59 PM

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#27984: Mar 15th 2019 at 12:58:53 PM

In the other hand, the point of this story seems to be this where the League gets back on track.

Gigantomachia already looks like he'll be fun.

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#27985: Mar 15th 2019 at 12:59:12 PM

Shigaraki looks like a kid without his face hand

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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#27986: Mar 15th 2019 at 1:01:50 PM

Man I thought it was Shiragaki instead all this time.

SapphireBlue Since: Jan, 2001
#27987: Mar 15th 2019 at 1:22:57 PM

[up][up] He is, though? I assumed he was maybe a few years older than the students, but not more than that.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#27988: Mar 15th 2019 at 1:25:51 PM

Shigaraki is supposed to be fairly older than the students; certainly not a teenager.

SapphireBlue Since: Jan, 2001
#27989: Mar 15th 2019 at 1:29:22 PM

Huh. OK, never mind.

Edited by SapphireBlue on Mar 15th 2019 at 1:29:41 AM

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#27990: Mar 15th 2019 at 1:32:25 PM

Hes supposed to come across as a kid though, due to being a manchild.

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#27991: Mar 15th 2019 at 1:52:58 PM

He's a young adult, but he's mentally a child

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing
#27992: Mar 15th 2019 at 1:58:25 PM

Whatever his actual age is, his emotional maturity is definitely at a juvenile level.

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slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#27993: Mar 15th 2019 at 2:09:14 PM

He's at least maturing considering he has not once threatened any of his teammates at the moment, even Spinner for yelling at & touching him.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#27994: Mar 15th 2019 at 3:10:22 PM

I'm curious what term was actually used in Japanese. Because Jaimini's Box went with "mutant", while Mangastream went with "grotesque" - I feel pretty safe in saying that's not the actual intended meaning because, well, no shit people wouldn't like that, and I doubt it would be considered socially appropriate in the current day.

Still, clarification would be nice.

Envyus Since: Jun, 2011
#27995: Mar 15th 2019 at 3:22:17 PM

I get the impression that Shigaraki is in his early to mid twenties. Maybe 24-25.

Edited by Envyus on Mar 15th 2019 at 4:22:52 AM

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#27996: Mar 15th 2019 at 3:58:35 PM

Speaking of the Doctor, I just want to remind everyone that Izuku's pediatrician is also the grandfather of Izuku's childhood friend was hinted to be connected to (or straight up be) that Wing Nomu that tried to take him away during the Stain incident.

Edited by LSBK on Mar 15th 2019 at 5:58:45 AM

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#27997: Mar 15th 2019 at 4:30:56 PM

There's a lot of Fridge Horror in that statement

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#27998: Mar 15th 2019 at 4:46:08 PM

Also, recall that High-End was being kept in what looked to be a children's clinic or daycare center.

Edited by LSBK on Mar 15th 2019 at 6:46:18 AM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#27999: Mar 15th 2019 at 4:47:24 PM

I would not be surprised when we find out more about the good doctor, that he may qualify as a Complete Monster.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#28000: Mar 15th 2019 at 4:56:47 PM

It does add to the theory that Deku might not have been born Quirkless, but just stolen by AFO.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.

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