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alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#27776: Mar 1st 2019 at 10:00:07 AM

I think Neutral Evil would work better.

SalFishFin Since: Jan, 2001
#27777: Mar 1st 2019 at 10:04:18 AM

Not strictly evil but willing to do evil things.

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#27778: Mar 1st 2019 at 10:08:05 AM

They are Chaotic in the sense that they think they shouldn't be bound by laws or rules when it comes to Quirks.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Cozzer Since: Mar, 2015
#27779: Mar 1st 2019 at 10:09:58 AM

They're probably still Chaotic Evil, though less Chaotic (they're not de-facto anarchists) and less Evil (not self-acknowledged Card Carrying Villains).

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#27780: Mar 1st 2019 at 10:12:46 AM

Yeah I thought as much. It's basically just two different and varying brands of Chaotic Evil against each other.

One Strip! One Strip!
Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#27781: Mar 1st 2019 at 11:01:28 AM

I think they'd be somewhere between chaotic neutral and neutral evil.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#27782: Mar 1st 2019 at 11:13:08 AM

So Destro's real name is Chikara Yotsubashi. Fitting that the guy who was all about free usage of powers first name is actually (or at least pronounced the same way) as power.

Maybe it's just because we've been doing the One for All stuff recently, but I couldn't help thinking about how the One for All users had their number in the line up somewhere in their name and Yotsubashi sticks out to me because the bolded part is a way to say the number four.

I've been thinking that the two silhouette members are going to turn out to be criminals... if not Destro himself, maybe someone who was related to him? We've only seen the one picture of Destro, but if he didn't wear his hair in a pony tail all the time it could work. Maybe that would feel a bit cheap, though.

We've already mentioned how it makes sense for Destro to oppose All for One too.

Edited by LSBK on Mar 1st 2019 at 1:24:14 PM

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#27783: Mar 1st 2019 at 11:31:51 AM

Destro having One for All is a pretty cool theory

Bewitching Eyes
Saiga Since: Feb, 2011 Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
#27784: Mar 1st 2019 at 12:37:57 PM

Uh, they're 100% Chaotic by D&D alignment terms. Chaotic means valueing freedom above all else.

They are entirely based around freedom of Quirk usage, ergo Chaotic.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#27785: Mar 1st 2019 at 3:16:54 PM

Something I had pointed out to me is that "Detnerat" might actually supposed to be "talented" spelled backwards. So obviously change that r to an l.

Xatu44 Since: Jul, 2013
#27786: Mar 1st 2019 at 3:25:50 PM

This arc looks promising.

SUPERS RISE UP

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#27787: Mar 1st 2019 at 7:26:27 PM

I'm curious if all five of these people are supposed to be Destro's children, or just the main guy.

Speaking of which, we didn't get his name, but I'm already interested in pointy nose (who may or may not be based on the Joker, at least visually). He's apparently willing to let a lot slide, yet seemed physically incapable of not murdering his employee for badmouthing Destro, even while crying at doing so.

Also, how exactly did he get rid of the guy's body; is it related to his Quirk, or are we just not supposed to think about that? I guess we'll find out when we see what he can actually do besides just apparently being able to snap someone's neck easily.

unfortunatezorua from the old, in the new yesterday (Five Long Years) Relationship Status: Wishing you were here
#27788: Mar 2nd 2019 at 12:52:08 AM

Got around to reading the chapter and it seems that like I predicted we're getting a villain arc now. Only that I didn't think it would be villains vs. villains, per se.

I don't see how Destro and co.'s ideals directly confict with the League's, though, since they're both mostly anarchist, but alright. At least overall the arc looks promising.

Also RIP Nezu 2.0. You won't be missed.

Well, that’d be jus’ a waste. Why would ya want to deprive the world of such anomaly as yourself?
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#27789: Mar 2nd 2019 at 12:58:43 AM

I'm not really sure how you could classify the League as anarchists. And the Liberation Army don't really seem to be either; they're opposed to regulation on one very specific thing, not society as a whole.

Being opposed to society as it exists and anarchism are not synonyms.

Edited by LSBK on Mar 2nd 2019 at 3:00:47 AM

SlavetoTropes Since: Nov, 2017
#27790: Mar 2nd 2019 at 2:33:20 AM

Have to say, I always like discussion about societal implications of stories main "Add On"/change from the realistic (quirks in this case).

I'm not quite sure however how much I like the way Horikoshi is setting up the new group, as it goes with

a) much tell, less show and b) making those guys his children. I kinda think for an ideological grouping it may be better to have them be followers (and it would be you know, easier to accept that nobody knew about them....)

Also, I may read to much into it, but Destroy design really seems to be a Shout-Out to Rorschach.

Edited by SlavetoTropes on Mar 2nd 2019 at 2:35:31 AM

TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#27791: Mar 2nd 2019 at 2:35:14 AM

Still don't get why the LA didn't just enter politics and legally had the "Quirk Restriction Law" altered and changed to be more flexible regarding quirks by voting through a majority over it.

Wouldn't that have been better than acts of terrorism that would defeat their point instead of helping it?

SlavetoTropes Since: Nov, 2017
#27792: Mar 2nd 2019 at 2:38:32 AM

Well, I think Out-of-Universe reason is clearly that the author wants to have his dramatic conflict be handled by actual fighting, so making them a bunch of political activists that contest elections would not be feasible for the kind of story they are in.

In-Universe I think the most likely explanation is that their cause came at a time where quirk user still were a small-ish minority (and maybe being heavily discriminated, like humans usually do), so they thought they didn't have a chance to affect the change by reform instead of revolution. It's hardly new that small, more extreme sects try to use terror to advance their political goals.

JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing
#27793: Mar 2nd 2019 at 7:40:40 AM

Either that or the extent to which they want to de-regulate quirks simply isn't that popular among the majority, even if the majority have quirks. As far as we know, their goal isn't "loosening regulations on quirk usage" or "reducing penalties for unrelated quirk usage." It's ending regulation altogether. And given this is a world where even petty crooks like purse snatchers can have quirks that could potentially level buildings it makes sense that the general populace would support at least some level of regulation.

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IniuriaTalis Since: Oct, 2014 Relationship Status: Love, football, the arts, the occasional pint
#27794: Mar 2nd 2019 at 7:49:27 AM

It also seems like something that would be a lot more complicated than it sounds. Let's say that only powerful, dangerous quirks get regulated: does that mean the government is discriminating against those with powerful quirks? What kinds of imbalances would this cause in the job market? Would you need to be trained to be allowed to use your quirk, and if so who could train you if it's an unknown one like Eri's? If not, how dangerous could that be?

Does anyone actually read these?
sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#27795: Mar 2nd 2019 at 7:51:04 AM

a) much tell, less show and b) making those guys his children
I think the Show was mostly spent on Destro Jr's Establishing Character Moment, making him seem a greedy if eccentric CEO then straight up murdering Teddy Graham Man when he dismissed the Liberation Movement as terrorists.

Also, do we know all of them are his children? Destro Jr obviously is not the rest of them could be followers. The narration text does say "nobody know Destro had children", but that could still refer to just one, if not by itself then by the fact that Japanese doesn't really have a plural for just things.

TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#27796: Mar 2nd 2019 at 9:05:00 AM

[up] Seriously?

they don't add a "-s" or "-es" for plural like we do?

What do they use instead for plural?!

Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#27797: Mar 2nd 2019 at 9:11:23 AM

[up] If it's really necessary, either suffixes like -tachi, -ra or -domo (for people or animals), or indicators like "a few" or "a certain number". But a lot of time, it remains ambiguous.

Edited by Lyendith on Mar 2nd 2019 at 6:12:05 PM

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#27798: Mar 2nd 2019 at 9:12:24 AM

Yeah, you have to rely on context clues, mainly, iirc.

TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#27799: Mar 2nd 2019 at 9:26:37 AM

Wow...

Makes me wonder if Destro's children (assuming there's more than the CEO) actually are aware of one another or not. Like one might build up their LA while another go solo with less resources due to not knowing if there are others or not.

Suspecting a lot of half-siblings in the descendants of Destro's family tree...

In that case, even if the CEO gets beaten (or remain untouched with his underlings beaten instead, while he, like Osborn, walks away unpunished for any connection with the LA), then the LA will remain as a looming threat in the series, in contrast to the Yakuza which got eliminated pretty good.

Would be nice to have a recurring villain group beside LOV for a change.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#27800: Mar 2nd 2019 at 11:33:05 AM

I'm not quite sure however how much I like the way Horikoshi is setting up the new group, as it goes with a) much tell, less show

Considering this is the very first chapter, and we only like, what, a page and half of brief exposition/introduction, I fail to see what the problem is.

Really, complaints like that is why Show, Don't Tell as used as critique is carrying less and less weight with me. It's not supposed to be anywhere near as absolute as so many people make it out to be, and it also doesn't mean that all verbal exposition or narration are bad.

[up]That's a pretty big jump to "Japanese can be ambiguous with singular/plural" to "maybe Destro just has a bunch of illegitimate children who will keep popping up."

But anyway, yeah, Japanese is a very context driven language, and a lot of features that are mandatory to make sense in English can be left absent in Japanese as long as the context is considered obvious enough.

Edited by LSBK on Mar 2nd 2019 at 1:40:18 PM


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