So I've been thinking about how important it is to have a powerful Quirk/being powerful in the setting and what exactly constitutes a powerful Quirk for a hero in the first place. And I think a lot of people make some weird assumptions about that.
Like, obviously being strong is important - All Might was able to do what he was because he was strong, and a running theme that's been recently reaffirmed by Aizawa is that if you aren't strong enough to take care of yourself you shouldn't even be talking about helping others.
Still, while there are a fair number of straightforward, hit really hard/big explosion powers, I've notice a lot of people tend to underestimate/devalue powers that aren't that, even if they're obviously really useful. I've seen this come up with the Hero Top 10, with people (for some reason) assuming they're weak for not having primarily offensive powers (something that hasn't even been clarified, but whatever).
Related to that, a lot of people seem to consider it a flaw that the Top 10 is calculated based on things besides explicit "hit them harder" power, even though it makes perfect sense that things like popularity, how reassuring the populace finds them, and participation/number of incidents resolved would be factored into something like this. Plus, logic would indicate that how involved/reassuring the public finds a hero would correlate with how strong and/or skilled they are, even if not direct causation.
Which also factors into why All Might was No. 1, because while his incredibly strength was clearly very important, if you think that was the only important thing about him, or the only reason him retiring was such a big loss, you're missing one of the big lessons that both Bakugo and Endeavor are supposed to be learning.
So essentially some fans are making the hero rankings into a strictly Power Level thing when its really not.
Not surprising, these are shonen fans were're talking about.
I've seen people dissing Deku just because he won't reach Naruto/Ichigo/Goku levels of power escalation.
Edited by slimcoder on Feb 21st 2019 at 9:32:45 AM
"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."Unrelated, earlier people where wondering what Nana's original quirk was and how One For All would enhance it, considering Shigaraki's power I think it may be related to that.
Edited by Kaiseror on Feb 21st 2019 at 11:56:58 AM
No one in universe suspects a connection between Endeavor and Dabi, either. Something like that would most likely be chopped up as a coincidence. There are a lot of people in the world after all, similarities between Quirks even among unrelated people are inevitable.
Edited by LSBK on Feb 21st 2019 at 12:01:41 PM
Also I don't think All Might saw what his quirk was as Shigaraki didn't get to use it after he shown up.
Perhaps her gloves were specially treated to prevent her from rotting whatever she touched?
Edited by Kaiseror on Feb 21st 2019 at 12:04:32 PM
I do expect that Shigaraki's Quirk was derived from Nana's, although not exactly the same.
I've been thinking of her having a sort of Green Thumb ability that let her speed up the growth of things. And at some point due to mixing (because she is only one of Shigaraki's four grandparents, after all) that got turned into Shigaraki's Decay.
Speaking of the other Quirks, he seems to be able to pass Black Whip off as just a new derivation of the super strength (probably could say something like the "power up energy" is becoming physical, or whatever), but depending on what the others are that probably isn't going to fly.
I wonder what the answer is going to be then? Either way, I look forward to seeing, and also any new support items he gets to use the new Quirks. That's one of my favorite things about the series: seeing what items people have to go with their powers.
Edited by LSBK on Feb 21st 2019 at 12:38:36 PM
I remember seeing a fan comic about Shigaraki accidentally disintegrating his own clothes and stuff like that.
Bewitching EyesThe ages might be a little off but I like to imagine that All for One is a touch-based quirk, and Af O's plan to make Shimura's descendant his successor was massively shafted by Shigarakai's decay quirk and he scrambled to fond telekinetic women to breed with to try and create some long-range variant of his quirk.
Which begs an interesting question- what would happen if All for One took someone's quirk and replaced it with someone else's? I wouldn't thibk that it would still Nomuufy them, but I wouldn't be too surprised if it still did if the replacement quirk was too complex compared to what they originally had.
Wouldn't that be like chopping off someone's arm and replace it with the arm of someone else?
Takes a while to get used to but it would work like usual with some training and control.
He might trade AFO for the decay quirk once the succession takes place. Trade one lethal quirk in exchange for another, (and I am of the headcannon that AFO would do a more sinister version of what OFA is doing, meaning that AFO actually is the quirk and that the body can be changed like one of those fancy suits that AFO is wearing.)
Process: 1. Take "Decay" for himself. 2.Transfer AFO and the decay quirk back into Shikaraki. 3. Hijack Shigaraki and become a Legacy Character. 4. Rinse and repeat the criminal empire again.
Meaning that he might try and essentially possess the body of Shigaraki, warping its mind into a mirror of himself, and then continue his criminal enterprise free of his old shell and in a new form.
Like how the Joker functions. One can't just get rid of him and there will always be one running around.
Edited by sgamer82 on Feb 22nd 2019 at 10:10:44 AM
I feel like a quirkless person being given a quirk would be different enough on a mental level from replacing one quirk with another. At the very least I'd expect a Centipede's Dilemma situation where someone tries to use the new quirk with the old quirk's mechanism to find it's not there anymore.
Edited by SalFishFin on Feb 22nd 2019 at 12:26:58 PM
I don't think we're supposed to think there are different "mechanisms" for activating Quirks.
Quirks, after all, have a common origin. It's not like in a lot of super hero comics where the heroes powers all come from a ton of different sources like magic, radiation, etc.
Which isn't to say in the hypothetical the person wouldn't have any trouble controlling the new Quirk(s), just that activating it would probably be simple.
Edited by LSBK on Feb 22nd 2019 at 1:51:47 PM

Just watched Two heroes.
Simple and to the point, but I enjoyed it.
Because if you're doing a Super Hero homage, you need a Super Hero team up.
One Strip! One Strip!