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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#27401: Jan 31st 2019 at 11:00:38 PM

Given what's likely going to happen, IE All for One quirk coming into play again, I'd argue getting supplementary powers and them all influencing each other stacks the odds better in the favor of the hero, which I do think is necessary.

I don't really understanding this reasoning, All Might already beat All for One twice, and fully realized Deku was always going to be much stronger than All Might, even without this.

The biggest pitfall is the fact that this just started happening and it never happened before, which then puts things into the whole "We've been waiting for the chosen one" kind of spiel which is usually when things like this jump the shark.

It never happening before doesn't automatically make him the "chosen one", the implication seems to be this would have happened no matter who got it next. But that doesn't change what kind of opportunity it is - which is why it's happening. It's the most interesting time for One for All so of course we, the audience, see it.

It all really comes from a lack of information and what the authors going to do with it. I can buy the quirk being warped and mutating previous quirks that were attached to it, but I really hope it pulls the journey into the center of the mind thing sparingly.

Nothing was said about the Quirks mutating, just that they're stronger. And I have to disagree about the visions; they're one of the more interesting things to happen in a while. It can definitely be overdone but it definitely should be explored.

Edited by LSBK on Jan 31st 2019 at 1:07:54 PM

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#27402: Jan 31st 2019 at 11:11:41 PM

Double post, but chapter's out.

TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#27403: Jan 31st 2019 at 11:57:28 PM

I just feel bad for Monoma at this point, he looks so resigned to the "supporting character" role he gave to himself in this whole thing, not to mention doing his utmost best to play that role for the real MVP of Team B: Shinsou.

Someone give him a head pat.

Guess the conclusion is about to come next...and a whole lot of questions for Deku to try and explain off-class...

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#27404: Jan 31st 2019 at 11:59:16 PM

Someone would give him a head pat if he didn't act in a way that prompts people to give him a Dope Slap instead.

Disgusted, but not surprised
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#27405: Feb 1st 2019 at 12:05:09 AM

So, yeah, 3 wins for A, 1 win for B, and a tie... I don't like it.

But, I do like how well Ochaco performed here, and I imagine this development will quite down some people who were worried about "too OP!" for Izuku. Still, I'm awaiting the talk about this, and what the other Quirks are.

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#27406: Feb 1st 2019 at 2:03:49 AM

People forget that in terms of raw power, Ochaco is probably the strongest girl in 1-A

She came third in the entrance exam, after all

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Druplesnubb Editor of Posts Since: Dec, 2013
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#27407: Feb 1st 2019 at 2:15:28 AM

Tsuyu and Mina are both stronger. Ochako, like third, and the other three aren't very physical at all.

TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#27408: Feb 1st 2019 at 2:20:51 AM

Of course Ochako is strong physically.

It goes with her astronomy theme.

After all, a meteorite might float completely weightless in space, but still pack enough of a punch to eradicate the dinosaurs with one single hit.

I will not be surprised if she renames her close-combat style into the "Meteor Melee Martial Arts".

Space is a scary place after all...

Edited by TitanJump on Feb 1st 2019 at 11:24:52 AM

Lyendith Since: Mar, 2011
#27409: Feb 1st 2019 at 3:12:04 AM

At least kudos to her for having the presence of mind to not respond verbally to Monoma.

I'm glad Izuku can't fully use Black Whip yet. That leaves him some more room to develop.

SalFishFin Since: Jan, 2001
#27410: Feb 1st 2019 at 3:20:49 AM

Ochako may not be litetally stronger than Mina or Tsu, but it wouldn't be wrong to say she functionally is.

Druplesnubb Editor of Posts Since: Dec, 2013
Editor of Posts
#27411: Feb 1st 2019 at 4:19:39 AM

Mina maybe, but I think Tsuyu, Jiro and Momo could all take her in a fight.

JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing
#27412: Feb 1st 2019 at 5:12:24 AM

I think it would depend on the nature of the fight honestly; different people would win in different situations.

Also, at least the win was a team effort rather than Deku just carrying the whole thing.

Edited by JapaneseTeeth on Feb 1st 2019 at 7:12:32 AM

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Ninety Absolutely no relation to NLK from Land of Quakes and Hills Since: Nov, 2012 Relationship Status: In Spades with myself
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#27413: Feb 1st 2019 at 6:14:03 AM

I'm glad, Ochako really needed a win. And Deku not just being able to master Black Whip like that is fine too, though I wonder about the wording — he says he'll be able to use it once he masters One for All, but I doubt it won't be touched upon at all till he's at 100%. And to be honest I'm not as big a fan of Shinsou as many others, so I got no problem with him not doing that much here, same for Monoma.

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Cozzer Since: Mar, 2015
#27414: Feb 1st 2019 at 7:03:12 AM

I like how Deku and Bakugo's fight show their different heroing styles: Bakugo dominates by taking charge while his teammates support him, Deku dominates by tanking the most dangerous adversaries and letting his teammates take points.

Edited by Cozzer on Feb 1st 2019 at 4:03:35 PM

alekos23 Since: Mar, 2013
#27415: Feb 1st 2019 at 7:08:36 AM

So he can only use the Quirks when he masters 100% form?

That's iffy sounding actually.

Edited by alekos23 on Feb 1st 2019 at 5:08:59 PM

SalFishFin Since: Jan, 2001
#27416: Feb 1st 2019 at 7:35:19 AM

I think it's more like the other quirks are subject to the same scaling property as the Energy Stockpile aspect, and just like 100% of his strength will shatter his bones, using any of the other quirks at 100% capacity can similarly affect him.

Cozzer Since: Mar, 2015
#27417: Feb 1st 2019 at 7:41:02 AM

He'll probably have to train each of them separately. Like, in this case he can use the "temporary 20%" strategy with his basic strengthening Of A, but not with the black tentacles. I wouldn't be surprised if he had a different max % for each Quirk, with basic Af O being the highest ceiling.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#27418: Feb 1st 2019 at 8:40:05 AM

Man Ochako was on a roll here.

She was a major kung-fu master.

Edited by slimcoder on Feb 1st 2019 at 8:40:25 AM

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#27419: Feb 1st 2019 at 8:57:18 AM

Yea, all things considered she was pulling her weight here.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#27420: Feb 1st 2019 at 8:57:35 AM

[up]Appropriate given her Quirk.

Edited by M84 on Feb 2nd 2019 at 12:57:42 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised
OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#27421: Feb 1st 2019 at 9:12:56 AM

Ochako got to do something? Gonna read right away.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#27422: Feb 1st 2019 at 10:12:43 AM

Ochako finally gets to style and profile.

This fight feels like an inverse of the Momo battle, in that because one character wasn't stopped when they needed it, the other team lost, only this time, it's Class A who manages to keep going.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#27423: Feb 1st 2019 at 12:00:57 PM

I think it would depend on the nature of the fight honestly; different people would win in different situations.

Yeah, there are some match-ups I feel confident saying that this person would never win in a direct fight (like Sero vs. Shoto), but when talking about the girls, saying any one would definitely beat the any other is something I'm much less certain of.

Also, at least the win was a team effort rather than Deku just carrying the whole thing.

Especially since that was made out to be how this match would normally play out.

Anyway, I still don't like the overall win-lose ration but, in isolation, this match was pretty good.

Ochaco got some much needed time to look good and I don't mind Shinso's team losing because I hadn't been assuming both of his teams would win anyway. Obviously it was possible, but it wasn't really needed to get the point across with him. Plus he gets extra points for acting during a time of legit crisis.

Edited by LSBK on Feb 1st 2019 at 2:01:16 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#27424: Feb 1st 2019 at 12:50:10 PM

Huh does what happened to Shinso count as a jobbing?

I'm curious.

Edited by slimcoder on Feb 1st 2019 at 12:50:25 PM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014

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