My Hero Academia

Going by Mirio's flashback, it was also only applied to them fairly recently. But, yeah, it was never a hard description, just something their classmates and teachers picked up on.

Edited by LSBK on Jan 16th 2019 at 8:10:04 AM

Okay I get the middle but the first & third?

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

One Piece and Bleach.

Ah right.

Yeah people take the monikers way too seriously.

Edited by slimcoder on Jan 16th 2019 at 6:15:13 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

I'm gonna say, the basis for the name "Big 3" are the students with the best grades and combat prowess in the whole school, either that or it's just a nickname describing the students who stood out the most in their year.

Considering what Mirio said about it I'm putting my bets on the latter. That being said, Deku, Bakugo, and Todoroki match that description perfectly and I still think they'll end up as the Big 3 per se if that's true.

And yeah, I don't really think Nejire or Tamaki'll surpass Endeavour. Ever. Maybe they'll get into the top 10 someday but ehh, things just aren't looking likely, both of them don't display very good leadership skills or seem to have as much potential to be a "Symbol Of Peace" as All Might did.

Hero rankings are based off of crimes solved, innocents rescued, and likeability rating I'm pretty sure, but there's clearly more to being the #1 than that.

Well, that’d be jus’ a waste. Why would ya want to deprive the world of such anomaly as yourself?

Even the current #1 Hero doesn't know what it truly means yet, doubt any of the former big three will either.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.

Even the former #1 didn't really know what it meant.

Disgusted, but not surprised

It means ya gotta like chicken.

Its the secret to world peace

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

In Endeavor's case, it's the chicken that likes him

Edited by asterism on Jan 17th 2019 at 4:14:21 PM

Song of the Sirens

Chickenhawks?

Forever liveblogging the Avengers

Suddenly picturing Endeavor eating at a Korean spicy chicken restaurant with Hawks.

On christmas

Forever liveblogging the Avengers

Whatever being "Number 1" means, it most likely doesn't mean "The one who erased villainy" from the world.

Since there will always be people who lash out on the world for its unfairness, imaginary or real. No amounts of heroes can change that.

All they can do is keep the damage at a minimum before the new villains do too much damage when they explode...

Given the kinds of comments made at All Might, I've taken "Number One" hero/Greatest hero to mean something in the vein of a hero so powerful, one way or another, that their mere presence dissuades would be villains from acting and/or inspires people to feel safe.

Those are the things that were most clearly lost with All Might's retirement.

He also mentioned that he's painfully aware that for everyone he saved, there's an equal amount of people he didn't save.

Villains who are criminals might be discouraged by having a hero figure like him around, but what about the other types of villains who get classed as such for illegal quirk usage and not criminal acts such as robbery and the like?

Would a hero be able to stop a victim of domestic abuse from snapping and lashing out against their abuser, murdering them in the process with their quirk, because the hero is busy elsewhere with saving other people than them?

Would a hero be able to save someone willing to rob a 7/11 for a handful of food with their quirk just because they're starving and left without any other options?

Would a hero be able to stop someone with a psychological illness from getting worse to the point where they act out on their insanity and hurt innocents by accidents while they try to fight of the "monsters" within their minds?

To quote a good idiom here...

"If a tree falls in the forest and nobody hears it, does anyone know it fell?"

Can a hero save someone that nobody knows needs to be saved?

How would that be resolved?

Thing is, All Might has come to acknowledge that maybe that wasn't the best thing to do. Precisely because people had become so dependent on him.

You're overthinking it again. Of course heroes can't save everyone. They're not God or something. They're people. A good hero acknowledges this reality and makes peace with it, using it as motivation to be better.

Edited by M84 on Jan 18th 2019 at 2:18:33 AM

Disgusted, but not surprised

Well, all we do know is that Deku became the "Greatest Hero" and now he's narrating it for someone (most likely his successor while being part of OFA's Mind Hive and dead already, talking as a vestige of the quirk), I guess we might...

...Wait, a thought crossed my mind...

... Is it possible that we might witness Deku's final moments in life as well before the story ends?

After all, we actually don't know how old Narrator-Deku really is while telling this...

...No really, we don't.

Hmm...

I feel this is leading to how what a "Symbol of Peace" is depends on the person.

For All Might, he defined it as being a walking deterrent for villainy, and someone the people can look up to and feel at ease.

Endeavor's arc is about discovering what his version of a Symbol of Peace is, and how it has to be different from All Might's to hold any meaning.

I feel that's what the story is exploring actually, what truly defines a person as a hero? The amount of people you save? How many villains you can defeat? Or your ability to make other people feel safe?

Even if All Might was hailed, it's been pointed out that his way isn't necessarily correct for everyone and that relying on him so much has had severe negative effects

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.

It's also a part of Deku's development, in the sense of differentiating himself as All Might's successor.

There's actually a webnovel turned manhua (yeah bear with me) that seems to ask a similar question. The premise is that the MC spent his teenage years as the world's first superhero, Zero. He saved the world from countless threats, averted multiple apocalypses, slew evil demons and gods who threatened humanity, and inspired an entire generation of Heroes.

But five years later, he gave it all up and became a NEET. He considers his time as a superhero nothing but edgelord bullshit and ultimately a waste of time. He failed to save too many people and he couldn't really change anything.

One rather poignant bit in the web novel has him arguing with his friends about whether or not Zero was a great hero. His friends argue that Zero was the greatest Hero ever and are baffled by his lack of respect for Zero. The MC retorts that Zero was a failure who couldn't save so many people, including his parents. Now recall that the MC was Zero...

Disgusted, but not surprised

On the Big 3, it is explicitly just a nickname that people started calling Mirio, Nejire, and Tamaki, we know this. It has nothing to do with grades or any rigid criteria, people just saw the three of them and went "Wow, those three are really amazing, let's call them the Big 3!" and that's it.

And yeah, Titan Jump, your overthinking all of this. I know your mind naturally goes the most depressing, worst-case scenarios ever, but try to keep things in perspective. This isn't some Grimdark work, the overall tone and premise is very optimistic.

Edited by LSBK on Jan 17th 2019 at 1:30:51 PM

Overthinking is part of what I am. Nothing less.

Even so, the heroes are the ones getting the blame for these things by those involved in it, like what happened to Shikaraki.

Sometimes, people find it easier to blame others for their own mistakes rather than facing them head on and admitting guilt. Even when the blame throwing isn't true.

I mean, yes, what's your point? Bad things will happen, no one has said anything to the contrary.

Point: So what is separating the next "Greatest Hero" from the one who previously held the title of the "Greatest Hero"?

To what degree can society's problem be resolved so the people would willingly agree on dedicating such a ultimate title to a person that it would overshadow the previous holder's title as such?

Would such a hero be able to resolve the tragedies mentioned above in order to earn it? Or is this merely too godhood level to even imagine?

What are the qualifications, that's the point of this line of thought.

(Edit: there is a chapter coming tomorrow, right? Just checking...)

Edited by TitanJump on Jan 17th 2019 at 8:40:16 PM

It really just does seem like you're asking too much expecting some concrete answer like that.

No, you can't expect any one person to be able to right literally every wrong that exists.

Edited by LSBK on Jan 17th 2019 at 1:47:54 PM