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TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#26851: Jan 16th 2019 at 10:37:32 AM

You know, this has been on my mind for a while now...(like, a year or two), regarding the premise.

What is the definition of "The World's Greatest Hero"?

Can one be the greatest without being the "Number 1" hero? Or is the ranking somehow obligatory?

Thinking about this hard, I couldn't come up with a definite answer, so I'm asking the rest of you here in the fanbase.

What is "The World's Greatest Hero" by your definition?

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#26852: Jan 16th 2019 at 10:42:45 AM

I think expecting a hard definition of "World's Greatest Hero" won't be getting you anywhere.

It's just the kind of "everyone will know it when they see it" things, probably.

danime91 Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#26853: Jan 16th 2019 at 10:42:56 AM

Well, look at why All Might was called the World's Greatest, the Symbol of Peace, and all that. Power definitely comes into it some, because if you're not winning overwhelmingly against the bad guys, it's hard to put complete faith in you, even if you manage to scrape out a win every time. But you also have to have the personality, the words to back up and emphasize the actions. So at least being somewhat charismatic and inspiring is a big factor.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: Aug, 2015
The Head of the Hydra
#26854: Jan 16th 2019 at 10:44:43 AM

Become like Superman.

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."
VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#26855: Jan 16th 2019 at 11:53:13 AM

Those are really good designs for 3rd Year Deku, Bakugou, Todoroki, and Ochako.

Druplesnubb Editor of Posts Since: Dec, 2013
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#26856: Jan 16th 2019 at 12:08:52 PM

That's also seems unlikely to happen, but those two definitely will become big. And I still have to double take at the assumption that Mirio's never going to get his Quirk back.
What's so unlikely about that, exactly? Aizawa said that Mirio was the one with the greatest chance to replace All Might, so if Tamaki and Nejireare almost at the same level as him it would make sense for people to have similar expectations of them. And I never assumed that Mirio isn't gonna come back. You seem to assume that Mirio will come back in just the couple of in-universe months that's left until the end of the school year, which still seems too early for me. If I had to guess I'd say he comes back at the beginning of Year 3 so he can join class A.

Edited by Druplesnubb on Jan 16th 2019 at 9:09:03 PM

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#26857: Jan 16th 2019 at 12:14:36 PM

What's so unlikely about that, exactly? Aizawa said that Mirio was the one with the greatest chance to replace All Might, so if Tamaki and Nejireare almost at the same level as him it would make sense for people to have similar expectations of them.

Because the story going from "Endeavor became No. 1 in a way that he hated, but now he's adapting and really trying to live up to the role" to "He's almost immediately replaced by two teenagers", makes no narrative sense. At all.

And I never assumed that Mirio isn't gonna come back. You seem to assume that Mirio will come back in just the couple of in-universe months that's left until the end of the school year, which still seems too early for me. If I had to guess I'd say he comes back at the beginning of Year 3 so he can join class A.

Yeah, I'm just going to go out on a limb and say that Mirio joining Class A is never going to happen, whether he gets his Quirk back by the end of the school year, or later.

Edited by LSBK on Jan 16th 2019 at 2:28:49 PM

Druplesnubb Editor of Posts Since: Dec, 2013
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#26858: Jan 16th 2019 at 12:34:49 PM

Because the story going from "Endeavor became No. 1 in a way that he hated, but now he's adapting and really trying to live up to the role" to "He's almost immediately replaced by two teenagers", makes no narrative sense. At all.
What do you mean "almost immediately"? In fact if they actually managed to become the top heroes really quickly it would kinda undermine the entire point of having an arc about them dealing with people's expectations of them. Also Endeavour being a controversial figure is all the more reason why people would have their eyes on Tamaki and Nejire as eventual replacements.

Edited by Druplesnubb on Jan 16th 2019 at 9:35:07 PM

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#26859: Jan 16th 2019 at 12:36:31 PM

Nejire and Tamaki can get really popular and rank highly, without immediately being ranked higher than Endeavor. Also, I don't know what you mean about having an entire arc dealing with people's expectations of them, that never happened.

Not doing so wouldn't undermine them, but putting them above him totally would undermine his character arc and place in the story right now.

Edited by LSBK on Jan 16th 2019 at 2:39:50 PM

asterism from the place I'm at Since: Apr, 2011 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#26860: Jan 16th 2019 at 12:40:00 PM

It's not unprecedented, Hawks and Endeavor both became Top 10 heroes by the time they were 20

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#26861: Jan 16th 2019 at 12:41:43 PM

Yeah, but Drupblesnupp doesn't seem to be talking about just becoming Top Heroes, he's talking about them outranking Endeavor and becoming the "New Symbols of Peace" which for a variety of reasons, I find very unlikely.

Edited by LSBK on Jan 16th 2019 at 2:42:09 PM

Druplesnubb Editor of Posts Since: Dec, 2013
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#26862: Jan 16th 2019 at 12:42:54 PM

You keep acting like I want them to be immediately ranked higher than Endeavour when I've never said such a thing.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#26863: Jan 16th 2019 at 12:44:39 PM

I mean:

After this year they're gonna leave U.A. and enter the Hero Industry. With Mirio gone they'll have the spotlight as the ones most likely to surpass Endeavour and become the next Symbol of Peace. Seems like a good opportunity for a story.

That sounds immediate, unless you expect some weird time-skip actions/the story to go on for a really long time. I'm not sure how else this was supposed to be interpreted.

Edited by LSBK on Jan 16th 2019 at 2:45:44 PM

Druplesnubb Editor of Posts Since: Dec, 2013
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#26864: Jan 16th 2019 at 12:46:29 PM

Yes I expect them to get hyped pretty quickly (they already are, to a certain extent, what with people already claiming that they're already better than most actual pros who've been working for years).

Edited by Druplesnubb on Jan 16th 2019 at 9:46:52 PM

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#26865: Jan 16th 2019 at 12:51:39 PM

Eh, well the greater point is I think most people would like (or at least wouldn't mind) seeing more of them.

Regarding the "Big 3" of Class 1-A, while that's probably set in stone, I'll also comment that I think we're supposed to see this entire first year in general as much better than usual. That includes Class B, as well.

Edited by LSBK on Jan 16th 2019 at 2:54:25 PM

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#26866: Jan 16th 2019 at 2:29:53 PM

I will say that all of this hypothetical new Big 3 being not only all dudes, but all Class A, would be rather unbalanced. I think it's something that works for three new upperclassmen, but not as positions to slot the current year into.

In any case, I do wonder what might happen to the current Big Three in the future, such that Deku can become the World's Greatest Hero and such. It would seem to me that that bodes ill for them...

Oh God! Natural light!
LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#26867: Jan 16th 2019 at 2:35:57 PM

If one of the girls made it into some arbitrary Big Number, it’d probably be Momo

The thing to note about the "Big 3" is that it's not an official thing. Mirio, Tamaki, and Nejire "just happened" to be the most obvious stand outs for their year (Nejire and Tamaki apparently from the get go, Mirio after interning with Nighteye and his growth rate exploding as a result) so that's how big the group is.

If there are more obvious stand outs in the year than three, will it'll be the "Big 4" or "Big 5" or whatever.

Still, the parallel seems pretty obvious: the two natural talents joined by the plucky up-in-comer who started out sucking but made incredibly progress. That mirrors our three main boys pretty nicely, even if the dynamics between the respective groups of three are incredibly different.

Edited by LSBK on Jan 16th 2019 at 4:36:31 AM

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#26868: Jan 16th 2019 at 4:16:16 PM

Anyway, I've been thinking about possible future internships for some students, and specifically with Top 10 heroes, and this is what I've been thinking so far:

  • Bakugo interning under Mirko.
  • Iida interning under Crust.
  • Shoji interning under Edgeshot.
  • Momo interning under Yoroimusha.
  • Mina interning under Wash.
  • Shoto interning under Endeavor seems like a given.

I have other ideas for students not with Top 10 heroes, like Koda going to the Pussycats, but those are my big thoughts for now. The ones who already have their internships on pause will going back to the same offices after they resume.

mythbuster Since: Jan, 2010
#26869: Jan 16th 2019 at 5:23:06 PM

Somebody needs to remind Uraraka that husband-wife hero teams are a thing.

Flames are the result of oxidation reactions, not the cause of them. Shoto's flames won't suffocate anybody, because he's just throwing plasma, not lighting everything around the target on fire.

Bakugou has the talent to be a Big 3 member, but he doesn't have the attitude needed for leadership. That could change, mind you, but right now he's not leadership material.

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#26870: Jan 16th 2019 at 5:29:49 PM

I mean, I don't think you could argue that Tamaki has much in leadership skills either...

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#26871: Jan 16th 2019 at 5:31:26 PM

Nejire doesn't show any either.

Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.
BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
CHADhan Player.
#26872: Jan 16th 2019 at 5:39:17 PM

The big three is also more de facto than anything it seems, so I don't think there's a real leader.

I mean Deku would obviously be the de facto leader but still.

A lazy millennial who's good at what he does.
OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#26873: Jan 16th 2019 at 5:42:01 PM

Todoroki and Bakugou don't play that well with others afterall. A problem both have even if Bakugou is more screechy about it, just like Todoroki is actually pretty rude in Japanese he just doesn't yell at the top of his lungs like Bakugou does.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#26874: Jan 16th 2019 at 5:59:50 PM

I'm surprised anyone took the Big 3 things seriously, and that also means anyone bothered by the implication of it not including women. It's never been official in anyway, just a moniker born out of convince and popularity in-universe.

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#26875: Jan 16th 2019 at 6:01:50 PM

Its like how OP, Bolts Dad, and Laundry Detergent were known as the Big Three in the past. Just a moniker people take seriously even if it has no real basis for the title.

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