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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#26076: Dec 1st 2018 at 7:54:45 PM

Hmm...here’s a question - if Honezuki had managed to slip under Bakugo and soften his gauntlets, would that have been able to limit his capabilities somewhat?

Edited by KarkatTheDalek on Dec 1st 2018 at 10:55:01 AM

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
Leader of the Holey Brotherhood
#26077: Dec 1st 2018 at 7:56:43 PM

I believe the Gauntlets let him use his powers more safely, but they are still just as strong without them.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#26078: Dec 1st 2018 at 7:56:55 PM

And I don't think Bakugo would have had as much trouble with Tetsutetsu, if only for the fact that he was able to beat Kirishima by just wearing his quirk down. Bakugo would just do the same thing here, and he's signicantly more mobile than Tetsutetsu, so he wouldn't be at the same disadvantage Todoroki was.

Tetsutestsu good with endurance though. Granted, Bakugo is much better in close combat than Todoroki is. So I still think it could have been tough. Even Bakugo's fight with Kirishima was enough to make him sweat a bit.

sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#26079: Dec 1st 2018 at 7:57:52 PM

[up] Of course, for Bakugo, being made to sweat is a good thing... for Bakugo.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#26081: Dec 1st 2018 at 8:00:30 PM

Yea, it would literally just come down to endurance and I think it's been firmly established that Bakugo is literally the most determined person in the entire class when it comes to winning.

Definitely more than Shouto "Muh Daddy issues" Todoroki.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Dec 1st 2018 at 11:00:49 AM

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#26082: Dec 1st 2018 at 8:01:43 PM

Which reminds we, we haven't heard what Endeavor wanted to tell him. Something for a later arc, I guess.

Edited by LSBK on Dec 1st 2018 at 10:02:21 AM

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#26083: Dec 1st 2018 at 8:02:33 PM

Id also add that Bakugou can move quickly and easily dodge attacks, unlike Todooroki. So Tetsutetsu would have the agility problems Kirishima also suffers from.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#26084: Dec 1st 2018 at 8:13:56 PM

[up][up] Eeyup. Gotta draw out that family arc for as long we can :V.

It's pretty funny; Bakugo & Todoroki kind of have the opposite problem. They're both naturally gifted people, but the former actually has the drive to keep improving but just has severe behavioral problems that hinder him. While the latter has a levelheaded attitude, he has almost no drive due to psychological issues from his childhood. Go figure.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Dec 1st 2018 at 11:15:18 AM

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#26085: Dec 1st 2018 at 8:31:18 PM

[up]He still has drive, it's just...less focused now.

I like that his emotional issues are still clearly there, but it wouldn't hurt to give him a little more to work with.

Edited by LSBK on Dec 1st 2018 at 10:32:57 AM

JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#26086: Dec 1st 2018 at 8:36:45 PM

Todoroki's main issue is that he solved one problem at around the same time he came down with another. At first, he had a ton of drive and ambition to become a great hero without using his fire powers as a way to spite his father. He overcame the aversion to using his fire powers, but at the same time, his relationship with his father started to change, and now he doesn't have that spite powering his determination. He's still determined, but his motivations are a bit more hazy now.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#26087: Dec 1st 2018 at 8:47:04 PM

[up][up] His drive before was as [up] said, to be a hero without using his fire to spite his father. The fight with Deku helped him realize that was only hurting himself and that he wasn't really accomplishing anything by doing that, which prompted him to use his fire.

However, this also meant that he lost his original motivation, which only got more complicated once his relationship with Endeavor began to change.

But yea, it's not that Shouto doesn't have any drive, he still wants to be his own hero. The problem is that he doesn't know what type of hero he wants to be because he spent 10 years of his life focused on what he didn't want, he doesn't really have a grasp on what he does want.

Deku wants to be a hero who saves and helps people, Bakugo wants to be a hero who always wins and never gives up, Shouto wants to be a hero for.....?

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Dec 1st 2018 at 11:53:34 AM

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#26089: Dec 1st 2018 at 8:56:25 PM

Uraraka's the one in it for the money (albeit for more selfless reasons, and she definitely cares about helping people).

As for Todoroki...I am curious what sort of hero he wants to be. Maybe it'll relate to Dabi or something like that?

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#26090: Dec 1st 2018 at 8:58:13 PM

Those Daddy issues run deep man.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#26091: Dec 1st 2018 at 9:00:49 PM

The impression I've gotten is that he wants to be like All Might, and he wants to be like All Might because All Might was all thing things that Endeavor wasn't - warm (heh), caring, not concerned with blood-ties, someone who was hero just because it was the right thing to do.

You get that more when he says he wants to be a hero who can reassure people, and flashbacks to watching All Might when he was little.

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
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#26092: Dec 1st 2018 at 9:01:52 PM

He wants to be a hero that can reassure people. tongue

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#26093: Dec 1st 2018 at 9:06:35 PM

Then there's probably something deeper we're missing here; if it was that simple, he wouldn't be having his current issues.

I think it might just be related to what happened to Touya.

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#26094: Dec 1st 2018 at 9:07:34 PM

I was thinking along similar lines, actually. Like, a hero who can...heal people, almost? Deku helped him work through his issues and become a better person, so he, in turn, wants to help other people be better?

Again, I feel like Dabi could factor into this.

Edited by KarkatTheDalek on Dec 1st 2018 at 12:09:42 PM

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#26095: Dec 1st 2018 at 9:09:05 PM

It's definitely intentional that his ambiguous motivations along with his unwillingness to improve his Quirk is related to that.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#26096: Dec 1st 2018 at 9:10:04 PM

I can see Todo becoming a Hero who inspires others to rise above their shitty situations in like in order to better themselves and pass long that message to others like them.

Edited by VeryMelon on Dec 1st 2018 at 12:10:18 PM

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#26097: Dec 1st 2018 at 9:11:33 PM

Giving the information we have, I can only imagine Shoto only barely remembers Toya, if even that.

Edited by LSBK on Dec 1st 2018 at 11:11:51 AM

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#26098: Dec 1st 2018 at 9:14:48 PM

[up][up] That actually seems sound; someone who inspires others to move forward despite the terrible circumstances they're in.

That's...hilariously like what Endeavor is currently doing...

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TitanJump Since: Sep, 2013 Relationship Status: Singularity
#26099: Dec 1st 2018 at 9:16:27 PM

(My Guess:)

Shouto wants to be a hero because he choose to be a hero.

Not because his father wants him to be one.

But because Shouto wants to be one.

The motivation being "the choice" in on itself.

Just a guess.

Edited by TitanJump on Dec 1st 2018 at 6:16:47 PM

slimcoder The Head of the Hydra Since: May, 2013
The Head of the Hydra
#26100: Dec 1st 2018 at 9:30:46 PM

“Hey you have problems with your parents? Wanna hear mine to make you feel better” tongue

Edited by slimcoder on Dec 1st 2018 at 9:30:58 AM

"I am Alpharius. This is a lie."

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