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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#25901: Nov 30th 2018 at 12:43:28 PM

As I mentioned, being a recommended student clearly means you have something going for you to be considered as such.

I know we shit on Momo at least, but she's smart at least. So I disagree that it "doesn't mean anything" otherwise the author wouldn't feel the need to even make it a plot point to begin with.

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
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#25902: Nov 30th 2018 at 12:43:29 PM

[up][up] In that case, I’m beginning to think that I was right that it’s a rich kid thing.

Edited by KarkatTheDalek on Nov 30th 2018 at 3:43:52 PM

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Druplesnubb Editor of Posts Since: Dec, 2013
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#25903: Nov 30th 2018 at 12:44:16 PM

Bakugo would not have won if it was a 1v4. He needed Sato to free himself from Awase and he needed Jiro to find Setsuna.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#25904: Nov 30th 2018 at 12:44:57 PM

>tfw you got into the prestigious school not because of your own efforts, but because of who your parents were and how much money they had.

[up] That's true, but Bakugo is still the one who does most of the heavy lifting in the match, and Setsuna's team reiterate that none of them can beat Bakugo in a fight, so they have to trick him.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Nov 30th 2018 at 3:46:21 PM

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#25905: Nov 30th 2018 at 12:46:31 PM

I mean, I'm gonna point out that Aizawa expelled his entire class from the previous year. That must have included the recommended students, as well.

It's probably supposed to be seen as something to make you go "keep this kid in mind", but it doesn't mean they can't stumble and fall just as easily as anyone else.

Edited by LSBK on Nov 30th 2018 at 2:48:09 PM

KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
Not as angry as the name would suggest.
#25906: Nov 30th 2018 at 12:49:47 PM

Mind you, I’m sure they Setsuna can be a good hero. Her Quirk’s doesn’t necessarily have a lot of offensive potential, but she doesn’t need to be that kind of hero, and a bit more precision with her attacks could make her pretty effective.

Go for the eyes.

[up] Maybe that’s why none of them won - to prove that point.

Edited by KarkatTheDalek on Nov 30th 2018 at 3:50:13 PM

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#25907: Nov 30th 2018 at 12:52:06 PM

Thing is though, every recommended student got to establish themselves in some way...except Setsuna. That's really the main point I'm making.

And it's a general sentiment I've been seeing as well that she was ultimately a disappointment after the great showing Hokuneki had in the match before.

Like, Hori dropped the ball with her. It happens, not every character is going to be amazing. I just wish it didn't come at the expense of another female lol.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Nov 30th 2018 at 3:52:52 PM

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sgamer82 Since: Jan, 2001
#25908: Nov 30th 2018 at 12:52:23 PM

I imagine Tokage could do things like Kaname, the girl from Ketsubutsu who folds into herself, such as helping or locating people trapped in tight areas others bought not access. There's also surveillance as we saw here or even as "radar chaff" if you're up against someone with a sensory quirk like Jiro.

Edited by sgamer82 on Nov 30th 2018 at 1:52:48 PM

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#25909: Nov 30th 2018 at 12:59:29 PM

For what it's worth, as far as Bakugo's teammates contributing goes, Sero seems to be the one who figured out how Setsuna's power worked, and to use her limits against her.

I'm not going to pretend there aren't issues with how Horikoshi has (and likely will continue) to written female characters, but overall I feel like this arc has been pretty good with fair representation. Some have had better showings than others, but I think that's how it should be, and gender hasn't really factored that much into who got an overall better performance.

But the next round has four girls in it, let's see how well they all do.

Edited by LSBK on Nov 30th 2018 at 3:01:43 AM

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#25910: Nov 30th 2018 at 1:06:20 PM

I don't wanna accuse Hori is sexist or anything, but sure is awfully noticeable that most of the female students have less combat orientated quirks :V

That said, I'm curious on what Mina's application of her quirk will be because if it's not something powerful, then that means Deku's the only one on his team with any real firepower.

We don't know the quirks of the last three members of Class B, Monoma being able to copy any Quirk and Shinsou being able to control people is gonna make it a difficult match.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#25911: Nov 30th 2018 at 1:08:29 PM

[up]Oh, that's definitely something I've noticed.

With this, either Class B wins the final round, or it's another tie, but I can't see them losing with the spread being what it is.

And that's certainly an unexpected way of doing things, I'll give him that. Not really sure if it was for the best, though.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#25912: Nov 30th 2018 at 1:13:30 PM

Class B's win condition is if they're able to deal with Deku or not; he is the main powerhouse on the opposing team, and taking him out would make it significantly easier for them to deal with the rest of the team, especially they since have the numbers advantage.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#25913: Nov 30th 2018 at 1:15:59 PM

Looking at the three whose Quirks we don't know, we have: Ninja Ghost Girl, Girl Who is Probably better Mt. Lady, and Probable Dragon Ball Fan Who is Probably a Boxer.

Edited by LSBK on Nov 30th 2018 at 3:16:26 AM

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#25914: Nov 30th 2018 at 1:20:52 PM

At this point, I would just like for Class A to win. Even if B won, it would still just end being a tie overall since they're already down two. And really, do we really need to validate Monoma? Eating some humble pie might be good for him.

Unless we're gonna go for the "I won, but didn't accomplish" anything route.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Nov 30th 2018 at 4:21:25 AM

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#25915: Nov 30th 2018 at 1:25:28 PM

Monoma isn't coming out of this happy no matter what the outcome is.

Now that we've seen all of them, I feel like it might have been a good idea to put all four of the recommended students in the same round, and have that one end in a tie.

JapaneseTeeth Existence Weighed Against Nonbeing from Meinong's jungle Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Mu
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#25916: Nov 30th 2018 at 1:27:14 PM

Okay, having read the chapter, that was not as frustrating as I thought it was going to be. The spoilers made it out to be Bakugo stomping the other team while accomplishing absolutely nothing, but while he did do most of the heavy lifting, it actually showed him being intelligent and using his teammates' abilities to his advantage. He's the centerpiece of it, yeah, but it was still absolutely a team effort, which does highlight his character development.

That said, I do think it was a little on the rushed side, and like others have said, it feels like Class B really got hit with The Worf Effect here and should've been able to last at least a little longer or put up more of a fight.

Although it's almost worth it to see Monoma's reaction.

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BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#25917: Nov 30th 2018 at 1:34:59 PM

On another note, I can see Shinsou bonding with Monama in this match. That's gonna be a weird friendship.

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VeryMelon Since: Jul, 2011 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
#25918: Nov 30th 2018 at 1:36:13 PM

What does being a recommended student even mean?

LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#25919: Nov 30th 2018 at 1:39:19 PM

They haven't been clear on how the process actually works.

I assume it's the sort of thing Japanese readers are thought to already be familiar with, which is probably why it hasn't gotten that much elaboration.

Edit: But during the flashback with Inasa and Shoto, they said there was a written portion, then they had to do a three kilometer race, and the last part was apparently a personal interview.

Edited by LSBK on Nov 30th 2018 at 3:45:22 AM

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#25920: Nov 30th 2018 at 2:27:38 PM

So my prediction for the last match.

Class A tries to remain cautious because they don't want to get caught by Shinsou's quirk, which Class B takes advantage of by ambushing them (again :V) and dwindling down their numbers. Monoma reveals that he can copy more than power at a time and for a long period as well. Maybe either Ashido or Mineta get captured, turning it in to a 3v5 scenario.

A counterattacks and manages to capture three of Class B except Monoma and Shinsou; things look good, but Deku inadvertently gets brainwashed likely trying to protect his teammates instead of focusing on winning (Remember "Save to win, and win to save"). A is put back on the defensive and the other Class A teammate gets captured, forcing Urakawa to hold the line by herself.

Deku has another meeting with the Of A vestiges, probably learns some shit and gets a new power up. Breaks free just before Urakawa is captured. It's 2v2, Deku takes Monoma while Urakawa takes Shinsou. Monoma is so obsessed with beating Class A, he failed to neglect helping his teammates not knowing that if four of their people get captured, they lose automatically. Deku distracts Monoma long enough for Urakawa to capture Shinsou.

Class A wins :V

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Nov 30th 2018 at 5:28:34 AM

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KarkatTheDalek Not as angry as the name would suggest. from Somwhere in Time/Space Since: Mar, 2012 Relationship Status: You're a beautiful woman, probably
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#25921: Nov 30th 2018 at 2:43:31 PM

...That’s actually a really good idea. I’m definitely there for Uraraka holding the line, and it’d create a good contrast between Midoriya and Monoma - one realizes that he needs to trust his team, and the other can’t see beyond himself.

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#25922: Nov 30th 2018 at 2:49:05 PM

Also, I guess YMMV on whether this makes things better or worse but it seems like Class B couldn't come up with a counter strategy and more that Bakugo (and of course the others) just weren't giving them any time at all to do so.

There original plan seemed to be to retreat and regroup if they couldn't get him in the beginning, but regrouping didn't really work out so well.

Edited by LSBK on Nov 30th 2018 at 4:49:54 AM

HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#25923: Nov 30th 2018 at 2:59:08 PM

[up][up]That requires Horokishi to consider using Urakaka for something like that.

While he does want to use his female characters more, that won't do much against the usual inability of Shonen Authors to care about their female characters.

I'd more expect him to fall into the trap of all the girls being eliminated first. Hoping he proves me wrong here.

Edited by HandsomeRob on Nov 30th 2018 at 4:02:56 AM

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#25924: Nov 30th 2018 at 3:01:37 PM

I mean, that hasn't happened with any of the other matches.

BlackYakuzu94 CHADhan Player. from Easy Coast/NY Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
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#25925: Nov 30th 2018 at 3:08:37 PM

Rob is being his usual overly pessimistic self, so I'm gonna ignore since I know where that goes.

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