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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#25751: Nov 29th 2018 at 9:50:52 PM

Bakugou needs to get his ass beat at some point. If it's good enough for Vegeta, it's good enough for him.

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#25752: Nov 29th 2018 at 9:55:09 PM

Uh have people not recalled Deku beating him way back? Previously his "big victories" tended to end up hollow for him too. Him having a legit victory for once is nice.

And at least Bakugou has the decency to be coverin his teammates if they're in danger and vice versa. So while not a good plan he's grown in that regards.

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HandsomeRob Leader of the Holey Brotherhood from The land of broken records Since: Jan, 2015
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#25753: Nov 29th 2018 at 10:00:58 PM

That is true. Bakugo has had a lot of hollow victories, or straight up embarrassing losses for quite some time...is this the first time he's straight up won without it being tainted in some way? It's kinda strange to think that really.

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SonOfSharknado Love is Love is Love Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: And they all lived happily ever after <3
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#25754: Nov 29th 2018 at 10:01:40 PM

If you're referring to the uppercut in the first training exercise, Bakugou still wound up winning their first actual one-on-one fight. Despite all of Izuku's growth and improvement, Bakugou was still just flat-out better and could have killed him.

Edited by SonOfSharknado on Nov 29th 2018 at 1:02:22 PM

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#25755: Nov 29th 2018 at 10:02:45 PM

I will say that he hasn't had a proper victory for awhile now. And this does sound like everyone gets to contribute, so that's nice.

That said, I didn't want it to be over this fast. I suppose it might be a question of how it plays out, but I'd rather Bakugo struggle more. I don't think Midoriya's team will have quite so easy a time of it, at least (maybe Horikoshi's just kind of itching to get to that fight now?)

Furthermore, if Bakugo's managing to work well with a team, then I'm curious what's holding him back. Because I feel like it's important that Bakugo be a flawed figure, but I'm worried that this flaws will cease to matter after a certain point?

Actually, how long is this chapter? It sounds like there's quite a fight this time, so I'm wondering if it's a longer one.

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#25756: Nov 29th 2018 at 10:05:10 PM

I mean, I don't have an issue with him winning at all. Like it was said, his skills have always been top notch, it was his attitude that was bad.

But it still undermines the whole "Class B are good" message. They're not good, everyone else but Bakugo just sucks.

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#25757: Nov 29th 2018 at 10:07:59 PM

Wait, why does it mean that? Losing doesn't make you bad, it just means the other team was better, and even then, better in that specific set of circumstances. For example, if Momo's team could do their fight over, knowing what they know now, I think they would have a chance at scraping out a win.

I wouldn't say "Everyone sucks but Bakugo" so much as "Bakugo's on a whole different level than everyone else".

Edited by KarkatTheDalek on Nov 29th 2018 at 1:09:08 PM

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#25758: Nov 29th 2018 at 10:08:04 PM

Class B always has underestimated Bakugou as Monoma peaches and brainwashes those unfortunately enough to hear it. Too bad for them he's always more determined than they are.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Nov 29th 2018 at 10:08:49 AM

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#25759: Nov 29th 2018 at 10:09:15 PM

I've always had the impression that Bakugo is supposed to be the best fighter of the first years. I'm really not surprised.

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#25760: Nov 29th 2018 at 10:10:52 PM

Reminder that not only did he pass the entrance exam with only combat points, he got the highest score out of all the participants.

he's always been good at blowin shit up

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#25761: Nov 29th 2018 at 10:12:35 PM

[up][up][up][up] Yea, but what does it say about everyone else when they more or less struggled in their matches, including Shouto, while Bakugo is having no trouble at all?

What you said can basically mean the same thing "Bakugo is better than everyone", but that undermines the premise that Class B are just as good as Class A, because Bakugo just basically proved they aren't.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Nov 29th 2018 at 1:12:46 PM

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#25762: Nov 29th 2018 at 10:13:41 PM

[up] Well, it says something about Bakugo. Not really about Class A or B as a whole.

Edited by LSBK on Nov 29th 2018 at 12:15:13 PM

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#25763: Nov 29th 2018 at 10:14:24 PM

His power-level is MAXIMUM.

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#25764: Nov 29th 2018 at 10:15:00 PM

Which kind of undermines the point that was made all the way back at almost the beginning of the story. Oh, no, Bakugou actually wasn't a big fish in a small pond and he doesn't have to work hard to catch up to people just as gifted or even more so like Momo or Shouto. He's just always been better than everyone.

Edited by SonOfSharknado on Nov 29th 2018 at 1:15:24 PM

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LSBK Since: Sep, 2014
#25765: Nov 29th 2018 at 10:16:10 PM

[up]I don't think that ever was the point actually.

The point was that he still had a lot of growing to do before achieving his dream, and he does. But I don't think we were ever supposed to view Bakugo as a "big fish in a small pond" or "nothing special by U.A.s standards."

Edited by LSBK on Nov 29th 2018 at 12:18:50 PM

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#25766: Nov 29th 2018 at 10:17:07 PM

Ive seen a few pages and it does suggest it was a team effort. So they as a whole did it. Even if Bakugou handled the brute force directly.

EDIT: Sato/Sugarman apparently saved him and Bakugou made an opening in return for him to take down a Class B stident too apparently.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Nov 29th 2018 at 10:19:41 AM

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#25767: Nov 29th 2018 at 10:17:48 PM

[up][up][up][up] No, it's still kind of saying everyone else in Class A is inferior to Bakugo, including arguably Todoroki at this point.

But then again, Bakugo had the upperhand when they started to fight in the Sports Festival before he gave up, so I suppose it was inevitable he'd push past him eventually.

[up] Well, we'll wait and see I guess. The text spoilers make it seem like he's doing all of the direct stuff while his team support him and he looks out for them.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Nov 29th 2018 at 1:19:04 PM

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#25768: Nov 29th 2018 at 10:18:17 PM

So Bakugo was the DPS dealer while everyone else was Tank, Support, etc.

Sounds pretty dope.

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#25769: Nov 29th 2018 at 10:19:37 PM

[up][up] Like, what are you trying to say here? Because if you're point is that everyone else is coming across as weak, wouldn't that require Bakugo to be the baseline which...does not seem to be the case?

Also, in fairness, this group was always kind of positioned so that Bakugo would be their primary offensive force.

Edited by KarkatTheDalek on Nov 29th 2018 at 1:20:59 PM

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#25770: Nov 29th 2018 at 10:20:09 PM

I mean, that was always the feeling I got. Yeah, Bakugou was always the obvious pick of his school to get into the UA. Everyone else either had shitty Quirks or was Deku. If Deku could breathe or manipulate fire or some other Quirk that was complimentary of both of his parents, he had the drive and the willpower to stand up to Bakugou and the rest of the school and their neighborhood wouldn't just think Bakugou was the hottest shit. And he's been lauded with praise all his life because, yes, he was exceptional, but especially compared to everyone else.

But at UA, everyone else is just as driven or inspired to be Heroes (except Mineta), and some of them have stronger Quirks than him, or have access to more resources and a better upbringing and education like Momo or Tenya (and technically Todoroki), or are just flat out better people than him, like everyone (except Mineta).

Edited by SonOfSharknado on Nov 29th 2018 at 1:21:55 PM

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#25771: Nov 29th 2018 at 10:20:11 PM

Bakugou's been working a lot harder than Todoroki IMO. Honestly feels like Shouto's been coasting a bit. Hell, for the first part of the series he literally not using half his power.

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#25772: Nov 29th 2018 at 10:22:28 PM

I mean, Bakugo got into U.A. with the highest score of the practical exam without any rescue points.

During the combat exercise everyone was taking note of his power and battle instincts.

During the Sports Festival he routinely placed really high, and ultimately won. And when the draft picks came along he got over 3,000 nominations, and if not for his attitude might have even gotten more than Todoroki.

Best Jeanist outright said that he was already good enough to start professional work and be taken on as a sidekick.

Bakugo has always, always been portrayed and talked about as if he were incredible, even by U.As standards.

Edited by LSBK on Nov 29th 2018 at 12:23:55 PM

Lightysnake Since: May, 2010
#25773: Nov 29th 2018 at 10:22:56 PM

He's really his own worst enemy in many ways.

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#25774: Nov 29th 2018 at 10:23:50 PM

[up][up][up][up] Bakugo, along with Deku and Shouto, are generally considered the best in Class A. So if we assume Bakugo has surpassed the latter, then yea...it would kind of stand to reason that he's set the new bar to be considered good.

And like I said It's just the fact that they've been trying to sell Class B as credible threats only for Bakugo to just "lol nope" them that makes me feel this way.

Edited by BlackYakuzu94 on Nov 29th 2018 at 1:24:29 PM

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#25775: Nov 29th 2018 at 10:24:16 PM

As I've said previously, by the end of the series, I would like to see things level out a bit so that more of the class could at least put up a fight against Bakugo (and maybe scrape a win in the right conditions).

I'm fine with certain characters coming out ahead, but I dislike it when it's no contest for the vast majority.

(If that does end up being the case, I won't be pleased, but I'll deal.)

[up] To be clear, when I said "baseline", I meant "average". Bakugo's way above that.

Edited by KarkatTheDalek on Nov 29th 2018 at 1:26:49 PM

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