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Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
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#426: Jan 26th 2018 at 7:59:47 AM

Well, to be fair, they only have 42 minutes. it's really hard for them to introduce too many characters, and it's unsatisfying to see the murder successfully pinned on an unexplored random. So the only thing they can do differently, really, is to have the murderer be someone who was already cleared once. Even that will get old if they do use that enough to offset the tiresome cliches of now.

Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#427: Jan 26th 2018 at 8:19:37 AM

They can try to shake things up. Pick ideas from Agatha Christie's playbook. Or have the episode be about finding the murderer instead of identifying him.

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#428: Jan 26th 2018 at 10:15:45 AM

Or, heck, go part of the way towards shows like Murder in the First. Have each murder be a mini-arc of two or three episodes.

But you know these procedurals are mostly there for the gimmicks. Castle had the writer aspect, Monk had the illness aspect, this has the Devil himself. The case is generally secondary in the long run. It's about the story behind the gimmick all the way.

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#429: Jan 26th 2018 at 11:08:47 AM

Which is understandable. Police procedurals are cheap and have proven to have staying power. It would just be nice if they were better about changing it up a little. I know Castle liked to play with meta-tropes (having the famous guest star turn out to be innocent, or stumbling onto a spy ring that turns out to be a high-class LARP club), and so on. Lucifer can just be a bit more blatant because the overarching Myth Arc is both much more interesting than the individual cases and rarely has anything to do with them at all.

TerminusEst from the Land of Winter and Stars Since: Feb, 2010
#430: Jan 30th 2018 at 2:32:17 AM

That K-pop fight scene was glorious.

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Eagal This is a title. from This is a location. Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Waiting for Prince Charming
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#431: Feb 5th 2018 at 5:03:19 PM

Researching how to kill an immortal being? The Da Vinci Code is a good place to start. [lol]

edited 5th Feb '18 5:04:13 PM by Eagal

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Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#432: Feb 5th 2018 at 10:00:49 PM

Looking forward to the next psychotherapy sessions now.

The Maze/Ella association was surprisingly entertaining, although I wish they solved Maze's jealousy issues already instead of dragging them through all recaps.

This season feels a bit strange because while the endgame is quite obvious, the conflict isn't. In season 2, you could see the potentially disastrous consequences of the Celestial's plans, but here? I figure we are in for a big twist to up the stakes, because right now it looks like all could theoretically end up without anyone getting hurt (aside from the obvious).

Eagal This is a title. from This is a location. Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Waiting for Prince Charming
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#433: Feb 5th 2018 at 10:17:58 PM

Amenadiel will remove Cain's Mark and God will send Azrael to clean house. Mass "Oh, Crap!" ensues. End of season.

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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#434: Feb 6th 2018 at 6:01:06 PM

Oh yes, that would be a good way to do it. They've been hinting that Azrael was coming for a while, and they've said repeatedly that defying God is a bad idea but haven't actually shown anything besides Amenadiel losing his wings.

Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#435: Feb 25th 2018 at 7:52:16 PM

Ooooh...is Lucifer going to emulate Barry Allen?

Eagal This is a title. from This is a location. Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Waiting for Prince Charming
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#436: Feb 26th 2018 at 6:00:22 PM

Undo the reason the curse exists in the first place...so what is Lucifer going to bring Abel back to life? :hmm

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Silverblade2 Since: Jan, 2013
#437: Mar 1st 2018 at 2:08:07 PM

I found Lucifer's nightmare a bit Narmy.

Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#438: Mar 5th 2018 at 7:06:13 PM

"Lucifer told me to tell you this is exactly the opposite of what Amenadiel wants."

"I'm in."

Lucifer hit Maze with Reverse Psychology. It's super effective!

Julep Since: Jul, 2010
#439: Mar 25th 2018 at 10:31:32 PM

I get the feeling this show could very easily get the Person of Interest treatment, moving from a classical procedural format (1 mystery to solve in 42 minutes) to a real arc story. Although not in 20+ episodes, but if the audiences lower and it gets down to 13 maybe? Not that I wish it to end, it is a really entertaining one.

Although I was not expecting such an emotional scene at the end, especially not coming from Maze.

probablyinsane Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#440: Apr 18th 2018 at 12:26:35 AM

If Chloe isn't Jesus, I must try to not feel too disappointed, because with the way this show's going - it's both so logical and so hilarious if she's reincarnation of Jesus.

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Eagal This is a title. from This is a location. Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Waiting for Prince Charming
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#441: Apr 18th 2018 at 9:47:02 PM

To my memory Lucifer (the series and the man) have both been conspicuously silent on the subject of J-diddy, considering how bluntly Lucifer questions any and all of God's decisions. Foreshadowing?

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CharlesPhipps Since: Jan, 2001
#442: Apr 18th 2018 at 9:48:12 PM

I'd love for them to introduce Gabriel as Lucifer's hippie brother who does some of the mircles, implying J was him.

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Eagal This is a title. from This is a location. Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Waiting for Prince Charming
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#443: Apr 23rd 2018 at 5:59:52 PM

A very Love Triangle-y episode.

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probablyinsane Since: Oct, 2011 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#444: May 1st 2018 at 12:04:56 AM

After I watched the latest episode, I spent some time trying to understand why I haven't given up on this show, why I'm still quite entertained.

Because, Jesus Christ... if another show did the marriage plot-thingy - I'd be copying Pontius Pilate and washing my hands clean off this show post-haste.

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GabrieltheThird Since: Apr, 2012
#445: May 1st 2018 at 5:12:39 PM

I'm mostly just watching out of habit still, but she show does have an interesting trait where it has very good scene by scene writing, as in they write snappy dialogue and have good set pieces for individual scenes, but the long term writing is pretty disastrous. All of their larger arcs are disappointing and the characters, while maybe at least consistent, are very one note and route.

This means that you can usually get through an episode being moderately entertained, but you don't really care about the show or the characters as there's nothing to sink your teeth in for the long run.

edited 1st May '18 5:14:22 PM by GabrieltheThird

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#446: May 3rd 2018 at 5:44:33 PM

I just think the supernatural characters are extremely stupid now. Then again, that makes sense. They're probably not far off from what unsocialized supernatural beings in the real world would be like. I definitely thought it was supremely idiotic that nobody even thought that maybe it was Cain's affection for Chloe that ended his curse, rather than her love for him. I mean, I've been pretty sure that Lucifer's wings returned and his Devil Face disappeared because he did a good deed for his mom instead of just sending her back to Hell. And yet the idiot's never given that a single thought either. I mean, how fucking blind do you have to be to not see that Devil Face doesn't jive with Good Deeds? They don't go together. Period.

Given that Linda the shrink is a human, AND knows all this stuff, I'm wondering whether she's on the stupid train too, or if she just knows that suggesting such a thing to Lucifer is bound to have disastrous consequences. Because I could see that totally being an accidental reverse psychology thing where she says "you did a good deed for your mom. Of course you're back to seeming like a good Angel!" and him thinking, "then let me be evil" and going all Mob Boss on LA to get his face back.

Eagal This is a title. from This is a location. Since: Apr, 2012 Relationship Status: Waiting for Prince Charming
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#447: May 7th 2018 at 5:58:29 PM

R.I.P. Charlotte Richards. sad

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#449: May 14th 2018 at 9:46:28 AM

finally

In other news, Lucifer is cancelled.

edited 14th May '18 9:50:41 AM by ZheToralf

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#450: May 14th 2018 at 10:01:58 AM

And yet Game of Thrones continues going strong. Where's the justice?

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