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Edited by GastonRabbit on Apr 25th 2025 at 9:51:19 AM
Enough studies have been done to indicate, albeit not necessarily confirm (by their nature science and statistics can only disprove affirmatives, not prove negatives) the contributions of biology to gender identity are greater than "absolutely none at all, ever", as the most hardline gender-as-social construct advocates may claim.
That being said, the converse statement that biology is everything when it comes to gender identity is pretty obviously bunk, and is the type of statement that science is capable of disproving definitively.
Gotcha, that matches my impression of what I've heard. I just wanted to check because I wasn't sure how settled the science was or wasn't.
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji YangYeah, the question is still unsettled, there is evidence that both play a role. Problem is that confounding factors are hard to separate out since you can't easily make experiments and control groups ... and way too many people take evidence for one side as evidence against the other. The scientific method doesn't work like that.
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard FeynmanI tried that quiz on the last page and here are the results
Turns out I feel rather strongly about regulation.
Edited by MorningStar1337 on Jan 31st 2021 at 2:07:14 AM
But yeah, some questions were weird or mean a different thing if taken literally. Like if biology influences gender roles. Well, yeah. Women being able to get pregnant and being weaker on average influenced those roles. But I think the test would see an agreement with that statement as an agreement that gender roles are unchangeable.
Or if sexual assault has underlying a biological urges. Yes. But in the same vein that a cannibal eating a human has the underlying urge of eating. But no, not in the sense that it biologically causes it directly.
Edited by Antiteilchen on Jan 31st 2021 at 11:35:14 AM
I tried that quiz on the last page and here are the results
Turns out I feel rather strongly about regulation.
I'm sorry to tell you but your Communism score has reached dangerously based levels.
OTOH I'm apparently very middle of the road on the Revolution/Reform axis. Che Guevara I ain't tongue
Heh, idealogical flexibility is hardly a bad thing. At least not in this context
How they grapple with them is another issue I guess.
True enough.
Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Feb 1st 2021 at 9:45:12 AM
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang"Is the science behind gender identity and the role hormones play actually settled?"
Yes, it's an interaction. The technical definition of an interaction is a statistical result for which the effect of two or more variables cannot be meaningfully interpreted without knowing the value of the other variables. In other words, the effect of the two factors working together is greater than the effect of either working alone.
Genes determine the effect of the environment, yet simultaneously the environment triggers the effect of genes.
This may be too complex for many people to easily understand, esp. if they lack a college level education in statistics, yet it is pretty clearly the truth.
I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.Because sometimes it's fun to jump on a bandwagon... here are my results
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I think that affected my results as well.
Not from where I'm sitting you don't
That's being said I feel some of those statements are phrased in too absolute terms to fully capture my opinions especially on some of the nationalism stuff. A lot of those questions if I could free form my responses it would be "It's fine... within limits" and variations of that.
Yeah there were a couple questions where my actual answer would have been “I’d like to consult an expert in this field and go with their answer”.
Also, I believe I still hold the high score for both regulation and internationalism.
Definitely more good. Look at the responses to COVID in countries where government takes an active role vs those where the parties put in take a “government shouldn’t do much” approach.
Government is a tool and like any tool, it can be used for bad ends. But that only reflects poorly on the wielder. When used rationally and justly the state is a powerful force for good.
Edited by Fourthspartan56 on Feb 3rd 2021 at 5:52:10 AM
"Einstein would turn over in his grave. Not only does God play dice, the dice are loaded." -Chairman Sheng-Ji Yang
I mean, everything in social interactions is predatory. Governments exist to regulate things so they don't get too bad.
Even anarchists have governments, they just don't like call them governments.
Edited by KazuyaProta on Feb 3rd 2021 at 2:34:20 PM
Watch me destroying my country
Then you need to change for a better state, not get rid of it
Private groups (either charities or rich people, whatever) can do a lot of great stuff, but you need some type of government to ensure the basic for the average loser.
Edited by KazuyaProta on Feb 3rd 2021 at 3:11:37 PM
Watch me destroying my countryNon government entities do plenty of oppression and violence. Look at ISIS, look at Somali Warlords, look at Blackwater, look at United Fruit, look at the East India Company, shit, look at plenty of modern multi-nationals.
Government is far from the only form of human organisation that engages in immoral activities.
“And the Bunny nails it!” ~ Gabrael “If the UN can get through a day without everyone strangling everyone else so can we.” ~ CyranThere is a argument that state-backed violence is genuinely the worst one, to be honest. Compare Saddam and ISIS. The organization behind states can be used as a weapon of terror.
Heck, ISIS whole thing was that they wanted to be a state and replaced state functions where they came.
The worst MegaCorp abuses generally exists because they team up with governments.
State Power is basically a gun, it can be good, it can be bad.
Said this, given state generally find direct war to be very hard, which is why modern day atrocities from governments usually are done via guerrillas with some level of distanciation.
Mean you, this also has the effect that once a state is formed. State Collapse is basically throwing everything to a hell.
Edited by KazuyaProta on Feb 3rd 2021 at 3:20:05 PM
Watch me destroying my country

Right, clearly biology plays some role, but it can't account for individual freedom and preference. We are more than just the sum of our biology.
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