Hyrule Warriors/Zelda Musou (Spoiler Warning in effect)

I don't quite think its heinous enough a thing to be forgiven for.

Agreed.

I recently got the game for Switch and I can't beat Valley of Seers, Ganondorf version. When Lana splits into three, I can have two of my characters reach a Lana, but the third always gets away because I can't control three characters at once. What should I do?

Well, there's no Anger Born of Worry or What the Hell, Hero? thing from Impa towards Sheik, or Zelda, for not acknowledging the consequences of not telling her about it, so it makes sense of Easily Forgiven.

Also, Zelda's reasoning of being Sheik which is to protect her allies from the Dark Forces by not telling them who she is, I think that serves as a Deconstruction for Locked Out of the Loop and It's Not You, It's My Enemies, wouldn't you agree?

Edited by SnaxBox on Dec 4th 2018 at 6:45:44 AM

I'm not sure if it qualifies as an example of deconstruction, but this is definitely a time that the tactic didn't pay off.

I'm pretty sure that that's not how Easily Forgiven is used. In order to qualify, Zelda would've had to have done something considered unforgiveable by general standards (like say, killing/betraying a close ally/the army or something), and nothing Zelda did was even close to that. Disguising oneself to protect themselves and/or others (and to confuse the enemy) does not a heinous act make.

The Princess's request for forgiveness is mostly her being polite, and is out of respect towards her guardian/friend, and not something she necessarily needed to ask for. There wasn't a need for Impa to react in anger, as she's both loyal to the princess, and was just relieved that she was actually alive this whole time.

For the second part, that's not a Deconstruction by any standard. Her reasoning is more or less the same as it was when Ocarina Zelda first did it, and there was no real conflict borne out of the princess's absence other than Impa not trusting Sheik at first. Even in the battle where you're fighting the false Zelda, Impa quickly catches on that it's not the real princess, and the most the fake Zelda does is lower morale of your troops during the battle.

For there to be a Deconstruction, there'd have to be some sort of realistic consequences added to the trope being deconstructed. The game just plays everything straight, and doesn't even dwell on any ramifications of Zelda's plan at any length. By and large, there was no real reason for Zelda to maintain the Sheik disguise after she lost the Triforce other than to give us a Zelda fight.

Yeah, the plan was almost utterly unnecessary. It's implied (because she never states one) that the main reason Zelda becomes Sheik in Hyrule Warriors was to hide herself from Cia so she couldn't easily find the Triforce of Wisdom, but that gets stolen from Zelda-as-Sheik anyway. Afterwards, Zelda just maintains the Sheik disguise because the game wanted to continue to homage Ocarina by playing everything straight, even throwing a fake Zelda into the mix to keep some players guessing.

When I first played the game, I was kind of hoping that the fake Zelda was actually a corrupted/possessed Zelda, and beating her revealed that Cia had found her in the confusion of bringing in the other Zelda eras and brainwashed her out of jealousy or something. This would've ended up making Sheik her own character, and put a twist on the expectation Ocarina/Smash players would've had upon seeing Sheik in the first place.

Edited by Customer on Dec 4th 2018 at 2:46:07 PM

While waiting for my Joy-cons to come back from repairs, I picked Hyrule Warriors (Wii U edition) back up. I'm almost done with the Master Quest map.

Can someone help me do the infinite rupee trick with Cia? I finally got a weapon with a Rupees+ skill and I'm better with Cia than I am with Lana + Summoning Gate. It's my understanding that you have to beat Gohma when she has the Weak Point Smash halo around her but without triggering the Weak Point Smash (i.e. using a projectile). There are videos of it on YouTube, but it's only video of the game. I need someone to walk me through it!

Edited by ThriceCharming on Sep 23rd 2019 at 8:46:27 AM

It's been a while...

1. First, location, location, location. There's a level around the northeastern part of the regular Adventure Mode map which is a Challenge Battle against two Gohmas in the Valley of Seers. This is the ideal place to do this glitch.
2. Get enough Special Gauge to unleash a Warrior Special. If you went with the above map, there's a yellow jar right behind you at the very start of the map.
3. Target Gohma and shoot it in the eye with an arrow as usual.
4. Before Gohma even flops to the ground, rush in and unleash Cia's C4 Combo (the one where she makes a conga line of Dark Links). Depending on how strong you are relative to Gohma, you may need to dodge-cancel as soon as the last Dark Link spawns and use the C4 again. Back away as they perform optic surgery, and try to avoid killing too many of the little enemies yet.
5. Both Gohma's health bar and weak point gauge should be low by this point. Make sure to stay outside of the weak point smash range.
6. Depending on how much health Gohma has left, you may need to soften it some more with C2 Combos (the projectile balls of darkness).
7. Once Gohma is weak enough, stand right at the lip of its weak point smash range and unleash a Warrior Special. Try to scoop as many of the little weak enemies up with it as you can, they're the key to this glitch. Alternatively, you could just kill Gohma with the C2 combo as long as the killing orb plows through plenty of weak dudes as well. I find it's not as reliable though.

Gohma should flop down dead and explode, as should a bunch of weak enemies caught in the same attack. Now, one of three things will happen:

• A second or two after Gohma explodes, your rupee counter rapidly increments like usual. This means you failed the glitch, and may need to adjust your timing.
• The exact moment Gohma explodes, your rupee counter suddenly changes value without any rolling numbers. Usually this is by a round number such as 200, 600, or 800. If this happens it means you successfully did the glitch, you just rolled the wrong value. As far as anybody has figured out there's no direct way to manipulate this, so just keep doing what you've been doing.
• The same as the above, but your rupee counter suddenly becomes 9,999,999. In which case, yup, you're rich. Go kill the other Gohma to complete the mission, and enjoy your stuffed wallet.

I should caution you that given both the precision required in performing the glitch and the RNG element even if you do everything right, this glitch has a low success rate. There's been times where I've spent half an hour killing Gohma and resetting the map before actually getting that 9,999,999. Remember, if your rupee total jumps in value without scrolling up, it means you did everything right, so just keep at it.

Edited by Anomalocaris20 on Sep 23rd 2019 at 11:38:26 AM

Do I need to use C4 and C2 specifically, or am I good as long as I get the Weak Point halo and kill Gohma plus a bunch of little guys with the special attack?

Yeah that'll do. The glitch is triggered when you kill a giant boss and a bunch of weak enemies simultaneously. You don't even technically need the weak point halo to appear.

C4 and C2 are just the most efficient way to get Gohma weak enough.

Edited by Anomalocaris20 on Sep 23rd 2019 at 1:11:53 PM

Thank ye! I'll give that a shot.

Can someone give the dummy's version of how the fairies are supposed to work? I've been mostly ignoring them so far.

Hey guys! Want a sequel to Hyrule Warriors that also doubles as a 100 year prequel to Breath of the Wild?!

From Nintendo and Koei Tecmo, Hyrule Warriors: Age of Calamity is a brand spanking new game set 100 years before The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild, when Calamity Ganon first rose to power!

Nov 20 release date.

Damn Nintendo has really taken to keeping things under wraps recently.

This is really cool. This is certainly going to end well.

I hope we get Three Houses outfits because KT games worked on that too.

Heh, Link being dressed as Byleth.

Now that I said it, I'd like it to be real tbh

I should probably finish playing original Hyrule Warriors now. I played it on Wii U and never bought any DLC, so I might just buy Definitive Edition.

A real nice feature would be a save game bonus via having Hyrule Warriors data on your Switch.

I guess I need to get back on BOTW and finish the DLC.

A Save Game bonus for having BOTW data and Hyrule Warriors data would be cool to have. Like, Cia, Lana, and Linkle get involved from HW, and maybe a new fighter being Kass' teacher.

Edited by Rytex on Sep 8th 2020 at 10:20:35 AM

Also am I imagining things or did anyone else hear Cia's chuckle at the very end of the trailer after Calamity Ganon roars?

Definitely sounds like some chuckle of some kind for a moment.

I thought it was Ganon's chuckle.

Hearing Ganon speak in English.... I'd pay to see that.

Edited by dave_the_assassin on Sep 8th 2020 at 10:41:02 PM