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No, because no matter how many nights he survives, he always returns.
"I always come back." after all.
No, listen to the Marionette's lines if she kills him. She literally says I recognize you but I am not afraid of you, not anymore. It's him. Some of the other animatronics also have kids talking along side of them including Nightmare Fredbear.
Nightmare says I am here to claim whats left of you...and too vomit you back to relieve your horror. Nightmarionne also says Death cannot save you this time!
Withered Bonnie says I don't have a face but even I could see this coming. Withered Chica mentions that she is the one you shouldn't of killed.
It's Purple Guy, and he deserves this so much.
Edited by Wispy on Jul 6th 2018 at 1:56:26 AM
Then again, there's Old Man Consequences ending, where he tells you to "leave the demon to his demons". Maybe he was being meta, telling the player to leave the Purple Guy to his Hell?
Considering how Old Man Consequences can also screw you over in the game I imagine he is indeed being meta and is referring to the player and not to William himself whom you are playing as. Infact if I recall correctly FNAF world was always pretty meta in a comedic way (which is were Old Man Consequences comes from obviously).
I doubt the other theories I have seen due to the voicelines. The animatronics are too familiar with the protag for it to be the Brother. The animatronics specify that the protag killed someone. The kids can be heard speaking over Nightmare Fredbear, the Music Melodies, and the Marionette was already confirmed to be Henry's daughter in Pizzeria Simulator. And the animatronics say that he deserves this fate and should of seen it coming.
The only person that can be is William. No one else in the franchise deserves it anymore than him.
Edited by Wispy on Jul 7th 2018 at 12:04:48 PM
Withered Chica doesn't say that she is the one the player should not have killed.
Her exact quote is: "I have seen him, the one you shouldn't have killed."
This 'him' is mentioned in multiple post-death voice lines, such as one of Jack-O-Chica's lines ("Greetings from the fire, and from the one you should not have killed.") and one of Nightmare Freddy's lines which is especially interesting ("I am remade, but not by you. By the one you should not have killed.")
Speaking of which, any theories on who 'the one you should not have killed' is? It's a male character, a specific male character who you have killed, and they seem to have had a part in bringing enemies to this whole purgatory based on Jack-O-Chica and Nightmare Freddy's lines.
In fact, these lines make me start to doubt that it actually is William's hell. There's no specific male that he killed which would do this (I don't expect Scott would make it so a specific one of the murdered children is behind this unless it's Golden Freddy, although a lot of people have been doubting that he was part of the Missing Children Incident recently...).
Oh, and I just remembered: Mangle also has a voice line mentioning the one you should not have killed.
"He's here, and always watching, the one you shouldn't have killed."
The Marionette is still an hole in the theories that this is not William's hell. Charlie directly refers to the custom night protag and is happy that he is suffering.
The only person that the Marionette would be happy to see suffering would have to be William. I doubt it could be anyone else. Those theories also don't explain why you can hear children talking along with Nightmare Fredbear, Orville, Nedd, and Happy Frog. Although how exactly they out of all animatronics got haunted is anyones guess.
Withered Bonnie's lines also seems to point to this being Willaim. All theory stuff aside I really like Withered Bonnie's voice for some reason along with Nightmare Balloon Boy's, Mangle's, both Marionette and Nightmarionette, and Pigpatch.
The only other character I can think of is the Brother but I don't think it's him the animatronics and kids are hunting as at the end of FNAF 4 he clearly regrets what he did to his brother. Living with that guilt for the rest of his life would be torturous enough.
Edited by Wispy on Jul 7th 2018 at 3:10:26 AM
Well, the child talking alongside Nedd Bear, Orville, and Happy Frog appears to be Baby's voice, so it could be a reference to the Salvaged animatronics being able to hide inside the animatronics (including the Mediocre Melodies animatronics) in Freddy Fazbear's Pizzeria Simulator. There were also children wearing the masks of the Mediocre Melodies animatronics in Happiest Day actually (besides Nedd Bear who is oddly replaced with some sort of blue character), so there is a chance that they're actually possessed...
As for Nightmare Fredbear, his voice is a bit odd, but Scott isn't new to just adding things to voices for dramatic effect which create lore confusion. Half of the basis behind the Miketrap theory was that the Golden Freddy cutscene in FNaF SL Custom Night was the robotic audio distortion at the end of Michael's speech. It could mean something, but since it's not talking way out of sync like it does with the Mediocre Melodies animatronics I doubt it.
Also, I don't really see how Withered Bonnie's lines point towards it being William? They just seem like regular old taunts to me. With face puns! The only line of his that doesn't seem like a random taunt is "Why is this your prison? Is it me trapped, or is it you? Perhaps it's us both." which doesn't really point to a specific person, just that this is a prison and that perhaps the animatronics are trapped here too.
I agree with you on the fact that a lot of the voices in this game are good! I may not think that all of them are fitting (Funtime Foxy's voice is extremely unfitting in my opinion) but that doesn't mean they're not good voices supplied by talented voice actors!
I think I'm under the belief that the player is the Brother/Mike at this point, but there's a kinda complicated theory about it not being hell specifically and that Golden Freddy actually created the purgatory and that he is the Bite Victim but it's 8:30 PM so I won't go into it now.
Hoo boy. FNaF lore, am I right?
I liked Funtime Foxy's voice. He sounds to me like an flamboyant show man which is completely unlike Mangle's, Foxy's, and Rockstar Foxy's voices so his voice came across as an pleasant surprise to me.
Mangle's voice is pretty good too. Reminds me of The Delightful Children down the Lane from Codename Kids Next Door. Its also funny to me that Scott gave them that voice considering the Mangle gender wars back in the day so he just up and gave Mangle an male and female voice speaking simultaneously.
Withered Bonnie's voice, under all the distortions to me sound exactly like how I imagined Bonnie's voice would sound like.
Edited by Wispy on Jul 7th 2018 at 4:04:22 AM
It's a shame that William/Springtrap/Scraptrap got no new lines, he had one of the coolest voices.
I found Music Man's voice really unfitting at first, but I've started to find it more fitting and super unsettling.
Rockstar Bonnie's voice is cool too, and I love Happy Frog's voice. Mr. Hippo's voice is quite soothing, I could listen to it for hours.
Rockstar Freddy's voice was unexpected but neat and I'm a big fan of Orville Elephant's voice even though I find it a bit unfitting.
Nightmare Fredbear's voice is super cool, but Nightmare's is too...edgy in my opinion. Withered Chica and Withered Bonnie's voices are super cool. Toy Freddy's voice is pretty much what you'd expect.
Oh yeah, and why wasn't Phone Guy given new lines? He's gotta be one of the easiest ones to make new lines for, he's literally voiced by the creator of the game!
I'm glad Ballora got more lines, Michella Moss is my favourite voice actor in the series. (Heather Masters is also neat.)
Molten Freddy/Kellen Goff only got laughing but I'm fine with that. Personally I think we got too much of him in Freddy Fazbear's Pizzeria Simulator anyway.
Nightmare Freddy, Nightmare Balloon Boy, and Jack-O-Chica are all fuckin sick. So is Nightmarionne. Funtime Chica's voice is also good, and I'm not sure why but Nightmare Mangle's static sounds like video games to me. Maybe it's because it is video games???
I don't know why I decided to make this post so all over the place but there you go.
Oh fuck I forgot about Puppet and Lefty their voice lines were super cool
Edited by Penroses on Jul 7th 2018 at 10:07:28 PM
The main theory I've seen re: the One You Should Not Have Killed is Michael, who Willam killed indirectly by sending him to the Sister Location. His 'death' there is effectively the thing that brought about Afton's downfall I'm the end.
Alternatively, my own, more crazy thought: Henry is "The one you shouldn't have killed". He died at some point but was able to both haunt and keep his wits. He had some influence over the physical world, enough to get the fake pizzeria built, but not so much he could handle the day to day stuff, which is where Michael/FFPS protagonist comes in.
While the hippo's lines are gut-bustingly funny, I wish he also had a scary Game Over quote like the rest of the Mediocre Melodies. Because I think a menacing old man voice was all that was missing from this selection.
the birds may be dead, but so are you
So... Rhemery beat 50/20 a few hours ago, not Dawko (It's really unfortunate what happened with Dawko and the chat though, yikes..) or DJ Sterf. Scott actually congratulated Rhemery on stream and has made a few posts on the FNAF Reddit too.
I wonder what happens now?
What happened with Dawko?
The immature people harassed him in the chat because they either think he couldn't do it, or were thinking it's all a "race to beat 50/20" first, and they were talking about how he was "dethroned" and such, even though Scott's challenge was if he could beat 50/20 at all. It's bad enough that he deleted the stream and he's taking a break from Twitter, YouTube, and Reddit for the day.
He really didn't deserve that treatment at all... especially since he was livestreaming a lot and was playing the game for hours on end. Kinda hoping Scott might make a note on Steam about how this kind of behavior isn't appropriate.
Edited by DipperPines on Jul 8th 2018 at 6:47:34 AM
I am disgusted but sadly not surprised. This is usual for the FNAF fandom or fandoms in general.
I think the latter more than the former.
No the FNAF fandom does this pretty regularly. I remember back when some indie/amateur dev wanted to make an game that was a crossover or fusion between Undertale and FNAF got harassed out of the fandom completely for the crime of even considering pairing it with Undertale. Of course the Undertale fandom was just as toxic and nasty about it too. I also know some former FNAF fans or still active ones that were chased out the fandom due to the toxic fans.
I am one of those. I am still a fan of the series but I for the most part gave up on ever participating in the fandom. I got torn apart back in the day on other websites for the crime of making different theories from Game Theory which is where part of my dislike for Mat Pat comes from. I only come here as I don't have to fear being attacked by toxic assholes for stupid shit.
There is also DA Games whom gets harassed constantly to make more songs for horror games like FNAF, Bendy, and others in the genre in general. I have watched him go from being a pretty optimistic guy to being very bitter and angry at how people treat him. I don't blame him either.
Edited by Wispy on Jul 8th 2018 at 7:55:36 AM
That just kind of makes my point that fandoms in general can be assholes, since that post covers about 3 or 4 different ones. Pockets of sanity like TV Tropes are the exceptions, not the rule.
Edited by sgamer82 on Jul 8th 2018 at 8:58:26 AM
Sad how that is that we are an exception and not the rule.
It's all about perspective. It's all a game/tv show/manga/etc and, thus, almost never worth getting worked up about
Of course, like I can get pretty critical of the people whom created the works but thats about it. I never understood why people keep going around and attacking eachother, gatekeeping, being eltists, and just generally being nasty to each other over games, tv shows, and other media.
I can understand criticizing the person or people whom made the piece of media as long as your respectful about it but beyond that? Yeah....no.
The internet has made being a massive dingo far to easy. Blame the power of anonymity.
On the subject of MatPat and Game Theory, it's kind of funny, looking back, that his very first FNAF theory that you, the player, were the killer has kind of looped back around to actually being correct, given the prevailing theory that UFC is Afton's Ironic Hell.
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