It essentially is a movie when you take the final episodes together.
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The finale is whatever. I thought it was pretty good when I first watched, but on reflection came to see it as being rather meh. I have less problems with the finale then I have with the final two seasons taken as a whole. If it were up to me, the show would have stayed mostly comedic and centered on Earth, with character exploration being a big focus. Think Big City Greens. Some changes occur, but it's not leading to some big end of the world special (a trend in cartoons that I grow tired of as I age).
As for the magic question. Frankly, I dont give a damn that magic ended. The show ended, so it's not as if there being magic or not makes a difference. But I really don't care for the genocide accusations lobbed at Star as I mostly see it as a way to bash the show and the creators. Like, I'm not against criticism, but it better be rooted in reality, instead of just some out of control speculation that takes the show way more seriously then it does itself.
A hour and 28 minute movie at that.
One thing I will agree on is that Cleaved should have been a hour episode.
Scratch that. I think Cleaved is fine as a half hour episode. Tavern should be a hour long episode, or at least with an extra 30 minute alongside it to help explain a bit better on how Star came to destroy magic.
Edited by tclittle on Oct 1st 2022 at 10:05:02 AM
"We're all paper, we're all scissors, we're all fightin' with our mirrors, scared we'll never find somebody to love."Couldn't they have gone more for something like say, maybe the problem with magic is the people using it, not magic itself. Ducktales did play with that idea really well in Phantom and the Sorceress with Phantom Blot being similar to Toffee in opposing magic, with the episode being clear how magic is used depends on the person either good like Lena or bad like Magica. Star vs could've benefited more from that.
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I mean even season 1 was showing signs of a bigger story like the story arc of Toffee usurping Ludo's army, St. Olga episode foreshadowing the start of the Miss Heinous arc, and Mewnipendence Day and Lobster Claws introducing the monster racism that gets more prominent later on. Being more serious overtime isn't bad in theory, Ducktales 2017 and Amphibia aren't too far off Star vs in tone, and they did well writing wise.
Edited by SpongeGuy11 on Oct 1st 2022 at 11:11:04 AM
Adventure Time did get a lot of story arcs though and more serious overarching plots in season 3 onward with at least three miniseries. It is telling Cartoon Network gave less and less reruns to the show as it got more serious in later seasons (season 6/7 being the point the show got less advertising) in favor of comedies like Gumball and Teen Titans Go.
Course I do agree it did do a better job going from comedic to a more serious show than Star vs did (even if I liked season 3).
Edited by SpongeGuy11 on Oct 1st 2022 at 11:56:47 AM
But the story arcs never took over the show. Finn lost an arm and that was a thing, but large amounts of episodes would go by before it became the focus again. And while adventure time did get more serious, it was also highly experimental and at times almost surreal and even spiritual (which made it a really big outlier for cartoons.) But, the thing about AT, is that years could pass before those story arcs continued. And the miniseries were just miniseries. Brief moments when there would be continuous episodes following plots. But those were outliers. If anything, one of the reasons adventure time lost popularity and was ultimately cancelled was because got tired of how long those story arcs would take to get resolved in comparison to stuff like Gravity Falls.
And we're moving off topic. Anyways, one of the things that will bother me about the show was how one dimensional Janna turned out to be. I think the fact that she never truly grew or changed as a character, despite ostensibly becoming a lead, is a testament to how bipolar the show became.
Two-Dimensional characters exist and it's fine...
Rules of the Internet 45. Rule 45 is a lie. Check out my art if you notice.> And we're moving off topic. Anyways, one of the things that will bother me about the show was how one dimensional Janna turned out to be. I think the fact that she never truly grew or changed as a character, despite ostensibly becoming a lead, is a testament to how bipolar the show became.
Janna is basically the girl who never grew up because she's quirky
have a listen and have a link to my discord serverEh, Janna was fine for most of the series. Considering the mess that the rest of the main cast was with all their interpersonal drama, Janna being there to stand as someone who knew exactly who she was and could say with absolute certainty what her dynamic with everyone else (that basically being The Gadfly) was nice. I would sorta argue that she was at her weakest when they started adding more depth to the character in the show's eleventh hour. Because... it was the eleventh hour. A bit late in the game to dig through a character's layers and examine why she acts the way she does, especially when she's pretty much been the designated comic relief. That isn't to say Jannanigans was a bad episode, or it wasn't nice to see her react more realistically to that one dude dying. Heck, her finally admitting she sees Marco as a friend was one of my favourite moments of the finale, as small as it was.
Her suddenly being steered to being less of a flat character in the last five or so episodes was just a little "huh" when there was time to do it prior. Like during the third season, where she was elevated to the main titles for... some reason.
I feel like she should have crossed over in Season 3. For some damn reason she was promoted to the intro as she was virtually written out.
Also, still wondering what was with that kitchen mural. They knew by then they weren't getting a fifth season, so was it a movie teaser?
My posts make considerably more sense read in the voice of John Ratzenberger.The only mural I can think of is the one underneath the taco place, and that felt more like a joke specifically pointing out that they don't have time to dwell on that minor plot point. Just a quick "oh, yeah, mewmans are humans, moving on" for those who didn't connect those dots earlier in the season. Explicit backstory confirmation rather than teasing anything for the future.
Edited by RacattackForce on Oct 5th 2022 at 9:35:37 AM
anyway,we need a less contentious topic..
I find this this song is sooo good and is so the animation
there's a comic Moring Mark did where he got thrown into a dungeon but I can't find it right now
Edited by Ultimatum on Oct 26th 2022 at 10:12:48 AM
have a listen and have a link to my discord server
