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unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#4251: Jun 3rd 2021 at 10:07:27 PM

I will said that on earth only marco crush and star friend were the only good chararter, the rest were pretyt forgottable, I feel those two should move to mewni rather that being let up.

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IvanovTroping97 Since: Mar, 2015 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
#4252: Jun 4th 2021 at 4:51:06 AM

You know, lately I've had the thought that given season 4 had a rather messy end, maybe having a Disney+ exclusive miniseries or even movie to smooth things out wouldn't exactly be the worst idea. Like how Phineas & Ferb had a Disney+ movie last year even when their show finished in 2015. But then, given that Daron has since moved on to Nickelodeon, maybe the time for that already passed?

That doesn't mean the show can't continue without her. Maybe it's for the better that she would not be involved with the miniseries.

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#4253: Jul 1st 2021 at 11:19:38 AM

Random thought, Chibiusa from Sailor Moon is closer to Star butterfly then her sister Serena,thoughts on this?

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Bornstellar Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#4254: Jul 1st 2021 at 11:43:54 AM

[up]In what way?

Edited by Bornstellar on Jul 1st 2021 at 11:46:25 AM

Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#4255: Jul 1st 2021 at 11:52:33 AM

I was thinking in terms of personality

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RacattackForce (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#4256: Jul 1st 2021 at 12:58:36 PM

My biggest sticking point with the series finale is less that it happened, and moreso that it didn't feel like it was built up to all that well. Namely Star realizing that Toffee was right about magic being nothing but trouble, and that getting rid of it might be the best solution. I don't think the show did enough in its last two seasons to cement that idea. Heck, I don't think Star even so much as mentioned Toffee for a good season and a half until that moment in "The Tavern at the End of the Multiverse".

They failed to make me see Star killing the magic as anything other than her deciding to roll with a random idea that popped into her mind during a temper tantrum, rather a rage-induced epiphany that was a long time coming.

The season as a whole was funny, though. Season 4 probably has my favourite comedic moments in the entire series.

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#4257: Jul 1st 2021 at 1:07:54 PM

[up] I agree on the buildup, but it's weird to call her disdain for magic a "tantrum" when it is rooted in the people she's tried to protect being endangered and close to being genocided by nigh-invincible magic warriors backed up by the supposed benevolent magical guardians.

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RacattackForce (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#4258: Jul 1st 2021 at 3:57:16 PM

[up] Oh, the anger she feels in that moment is totally, 100% justified. Girl has realized that a race of oppressed people she's been fighting for the rights of for the past year are about to get wiped out of existence, her own mother is a major reason why, and she's pretty much powerless to stop it. She deserves a few minutes to go off. I'm just using tantrum in a general "extreme emotional outburst" sense, since just saying "emotional breakdown" didn't quite fit in my mind. Plus, in my defense, Star herself calls it a tantrum after calming down a bit (which I know is another quick joke, but still).

Star: My tapestry! It's finished! (gasps) Oh, my. I actually destroy the magic? So my temper tantrum was right all along!

Edited by RacattackForce on Jul 1st 2021 at 6:58:06 AM

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#4259: Jul 1st 2021 at 4:03:22 PM

Still on about the final eh?God am I tired of hearing people complain about it

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Bornstellar Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#4260: Jul 1st 2021 at 4:11:46 PM

I'd hazard it just wasn't the finale, but the decline in prior seasons. Attack on Titan just finished with a likely less controversial finale (compared to Star at least) and that Fandom is still pumping out works today, meanwhile, Star as a Fandom seemed to die very quickly after its finale.

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#4261: Jul 1st 2021 at 4:16:38 PM

Basically it and the last season killed not just magic but the shows fandom as awhole.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."
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#4262: Jul 1st 2021 at 4:17:53 PM

I dispute that the fandom died rather quickly after the final,if anything it launched a sea of fix fics seeking undo what people regarded as an unsatisfactory final,but yeah in general without new episodes to maintain interest people just moved on,but it was'nt like a sudden death thing

Edited by Ultimatum on Jul 1st 2021 at 11:36:38 AM

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Trooper924 from the Spawn Nebula Since: Jun, 2015 Relationship Status: Hiding
#4263: Jul 1st 2021 at 4:38:04 PM

Yeah, after the Game of Thrones finale basically killed off that show's fandom, I saw a lot of people claim that the Star finale did the same thing, but that's not what happened at all. Trying to claim otherwise, to me, is just an attempt to dump on the show's ending some more.

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#4264: Jul 1st 2021 at 4:46:36 PM

It's interesting how the Star Vs finale and the Game Of Thrones finale both aired on the same day (May 19, 2019).

RacattackForce (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#4265: Jul 1st 2021 at 5:07:52 PM

Yeah, the show's fandom didn't have a sudden death. It just naturally declined as a result of just not having new content to work off of. Even then, I still see some of the more prominent fan artists for the show crank out comics and fics on occasion in-between focusing on newer shows like The Owl House. And if anything, the finale gave the show a bit of infamy that allows it to constantly pop back into discussion every few months in general animation fan circles on the interwebs. I kinda struggle to recommend the show these days because of how it ends, but I still enjoy the first two seasons a lot, and the latter two still have great and funny moments.

And yeah, harping on the finale is a bit mean and overdone at this point, but it's hard for a bad ending not to overshadow a show. Cleaved wasn't even divisive ala Steven Universe's "Change Your Mind"; it was just straight-up disliked or confusing to most fans.

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Edited by RacattackForce on Jul 1st 2021 at 8:08:53 AM

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#4266: Jul 1st 2021 at 5:10:48 PM

The darkest day. [lol]

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#4267: Jul 1st 2021 at 5:12:34 PM

As a book reader I'm still waiting,one day Winds of winter will come surly

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Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#4268: Jul 1st 2021 at 6:15:41 PM

I highly doubt that STVTFOE got a worse reception for their finale than the series that said "actually genocide is probably a good idea after all, let's murder eighty percent of the planet."

Yeah, people weren't happy with the finale, but they mostly just dropped it and found something else to do. And moringmark is still pumping out awesome comics like a trooper, so the fandom isn't completely dead.

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OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#4269: Jul 1st 2021 at 6:17:43 PM

Or the one series that equated slave owners with Jews during the Holocaust.

Or had a petition that surprisingly got million+ people to sign it. Which is no small feat

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Jul 4th 2021 at 3:28:07 AM

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Groverman62 Since: Feb, 2016
#4271: Jul 1st 2021 at 7:55:29 PM

I still have trouble understanding Moon's reasoning. She says that she stopped Mina from doing far worse but she gave Mina an army of superpowered crazies and giant robots. How is that better. Plus she's angry at Eclipsa for something that isn't her fault.

Feels like a forced twist

OmegaRadiance Since: Jun, 2011
#4272: Jul 1st 2021 at 9:20:32 PM

Like any neck deep Conservative she goes through hoops to justify her conservatism. No matter how insane or how little it holds up.

So naturally she doesn’t see how she obviously made Mina more of a threat.

Edited by OmegaRadiance on Jul 1st 2021 at 9:21:38 AM

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Bornstellar Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#4273: Jul 1st 2021 at 9:47:13 PM

I mean it seems like Moringmark is the only fanartist who still makes stuff for the show. I was and am still in Tumblr, and it seems that after the finale, Moringmark and a few others were all that's left. Even now, I think Steven Universe and Gravity Falls still have people making stuff for it on Tumblr and that stuff getting lots of hits, but with Star, there seems to be very little left (that gets attention), unless it's by Moringmark.

Like, I literally just did a dive through Tumblr, and when it comes to comparing the three shows, Star's stuff is not only less frequently recent, but also less liked, unless it's by Moringmark. Compare GF or SU and you immediately see much more recent stuff that has a lot more likes.

Edited by Bornstellar on Jul 1st 2021 at 9:55:41 AM

Discar Since: Jun, 2009
#4274: Jul 1st 2021 at 10:10:27 PM

I still have trouble understanding Moon's reasoning. She says that she stopped Mina from doing far worse but she gave Mina an army of superpowered crazies and giant robots. How is that better.

She did believe she had a killswitch she could use when things went too far. Now, even discounting that, she still went too far with the stuff she was fine with Mina doing, but the second she had what she wanted she tried to turn off Mina's army.

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#4275: Jul 1st 2021 at 10:32:25 PM

@4268 What show was that? (Not Star)

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