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wingedcatgirl mys. minty from the silly dimension from lurking (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
mys. minty from the silly dimension
#4201: Jun 16th 2020 at 8:02:36 AM

"Is power concentrated in the hands of a few a bad thing?

"... No. It's the power existing at all which is wrong."

Suddenly I'm... still rotating Fallen London in my mind even though I've stopped actively playing it.
Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#4202: Jun 16th 2020 at 9:58:28 AM

All those episodes about the spells in Star's wand being sentient seem really weird after deciding to kill all magic.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#4203: Jun 16th 2020 at 10:04:57 AM

-sobs- rest in peace Spider with a top hat-sobs

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Theokal3 Since: Jan, 2012
#4204: Jun 16th 2020 at 11:52:50 AM

To me it reads as someone decided to rightfully point out that people overthink things, as "Genocide" thing wasn't even implied through the finale. Fridge Horror is still a Fridge, since if you analyze hard enough 90% of media can have some unpleasant implication. Like Redwall's "All vermins are evil" theme (which is shown to be completely race based, all foxes are evil, all rats shown to be evil and ec.).

Yeah, here's the issue: it wasn't Fridge for me; the very moment she said she was going to destroy magic, I immediately thought "Won't that kill like half the characters dependant on it to survive?!" Heck, it's even confirmed that at least Glossaryk and the Magical High Council would die. From there it wasn't hard to figure a lot of people would die. It's way easier to worry about it than, say, think about all the people dying in a battle between mechas, or about the people whose lives were ruined by Star's Shenanigans. If they didn't want us to conclude Star was committing genocide, then maybe it wasn't such a good idea to dedicate some many plots and episodes about showing us all the sentient things connected to magic and make us attached to them.

But even if you ignore the whole genocide thing, there's still the fact that as far as I am concerned, Star's conclusion came out of nowhere. We've seen plenty of times that Mewmen were racist even without magic, so destroying magic solves the issue, how, exactly?

Ayasugi Since: Oct, 2010
#4205: Jun 16th 2020 at 4:21:07 PM

I think the final episode with the spells in the wand was supposed to indicate that they would be fine with dying as long as it stopped a greater threat. It just didn't do a particularly good job because it was focused on the Nameless Spell specifically and not the possibility of all magic being destroyed and most of the spells weren't even clued in.

Groverman62 Since: Feb, 2016
#4206: Jun 16th 2020 at 4:33:32 PM

There's also the issue that people from different dimensions are no completely separate never to see or hear from each other again. So many friends and family possibly cut off from each other. And Pony head tries to brush it off bu imagining scenarios were there all happy

Sereg Since: Jun, 2010
#4207: Jun 16th 2020 at 4:44:54 PM

It was NOT just the unicorns that died Glossyrick said he'd die and Heckapoo not only said that the high commission would die, we saw their destroyed bodies.

The fact that people would die we actively confirmed in the show.

Now, despite that, I actually do like the fact that Star wanted to give up something she loved to protect others. I actually kind of liked the ending. But those problems do exist.

BigMadDraco Since: Mar, 2010 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#4208: Jun 16th 2020 at 6:29:28 PM

I think there is also the general feeling that in a setting like this all sorts of things that don't make any sense in the real world are assumed to function because of magic. Like it is far less intuitive for whatever power allows something as absurd as Ponyhead to live as something separate from magic. It's also a general trope that when The Magic Goes Away fantastical creatures either become the kind of mundane creatures we see in our world today or die.

Skaven252 Since: Jun, 2010
#4209: Jul 24th 2020 at 12:42:37 PM

I started watching just recently and the ending of S01 E21 ( The Banagic Incident ) left me baffled and puzzled. Marco apologized and said he had underestimated Star. And Star is in a stage of catatonic rage. Like.... what? Why? Why the tranquile fury? What is there to be so deathly furious about? I don't get it. :/ Someone please explain?

Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#4210: Jul 24th 2020 at 12:51:02 PM

I'd guess she was pissed at him for not believing in her in the first place. She thought they were past that.

Skaven252 Since: Jun, 2010
#4211: Jul 24th 2020 at 12:55:57 PM

But wasn't that already clear before Marco said it in the end, earlier on in the episode?

( "... and I'm not sure if you have a firm enough grasp on Earth culture to go on your own" )

Edited by Skaven252 on Jul 24th 2020 at 7:01:07 AM

Kayeka (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#4212: Jul 24th 2020 at 1:31:49 PM

That was expressing worry. She then said she'd be fine, and he did not believe her.

Again, I might add.

Edited by Kayeka on Jul 24th 2020 at 10:42:01 AM

Skaven252 Since: Jun, 2010
#4213: Jul 24th 2020 at 2:01:06 PM

OK well then I just don't get what's the big deal. People don't believe (in) each other all the time. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Myself been a subject of that all the time. Never had the privilege of getting furious over it. Let alone, getting an apology for it.

Utterly baffling.

Ultimatum Disasturbator from The Wiggle Room (Old as dirt) Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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#4214: Jul 24th 2020 at 2:05:12 PM

Well she's a literal alien of course her behaviour is going to be different

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Skaven252 Since: Jun, 2010
#4215: Jul 24th 2020 at 2:06:32 PM

But then it would have been Played For Laughs, instead of a Mood Whiplash.

Darthwyn leader of Inherit from The void Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
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#4216: Jul 24th 2020 at 5:13:49 PM

If I remember correctly she did go through quite a bit to obtain the banana magic thing so the comment probably just irritated her enough to decide that particular course of action.

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Skaven252 Since: Jun, 2010
#4217: Jul 26th 2020 at 3:36:01 AM

Oh. So then, is it because of Marco's comment that Star's nick-title is "The Underestimated"? surprised

Bornstellar Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
#4218: Aug 13th 2020 at 10:51:37 PM

I'm surprised that Moringmark is still drawing SVTFOE. Thought he would have found something new by now. Not that it's a bad thing, but I feel like he's the only person still making stuff for this show, as everyone else seems to have left for greener pastures. I mean seriously, after the finale, it felt like the Fandom mostly died.

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#4219: Aug 13th 2020 at 11:36:39 PM

Again this what happens when a bad finale leaves a sour impression on people.

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#4220: Aug 14th 2020 at 7:12:29 AM

Fandoms never truly die,they just stop being mainstream for awhile

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firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#4221: Aug 14th 2020 at 10:45:16 AM

Still the finale didn't help it's case.

wingedcatgirl mys. minty from the silly dimension from lurking (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
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#4222: Aug 14th 2020 at 10:52:05 AM

The Good Place is another fandom that dropped off suddenly due to the dissatisfying ending.

It wasn't as bad, and they were kinda in a place where they couldn't possibly satisfy everyone, but it was still bad enough to have the effect.

Suddenly I'm... still rotating Fallen London in my mind even though I've stopped actively playing it.
RhymeBeat True colors from Eastern Standard Since: Aug, 2009 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#4223: Aug 14th 2020 at 5:52:43 PM

I believe most people like TGP ending. It was just so conclusive there wasn't room for fanstuff anymore

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JoyandPeace heartless from fishbowl space Since: Jan, 2016 Relationship Status: In another castle
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#4224: Aug 14th 2020 at 7:10:36 PM

It's kind of strange with Moring Mark because originally he was a gravity falls artist, then he moved to SVTFOE, and he's pretty much stayed there. I do feel like there aren't really shows to fill in star's place, as shows like the owl house are finding their footing right now but it is kind of strange.

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lalalei2001 Since: Oct, 2009
#4225: Aug 14th 2020 at 7:48:04 PM

The Good Place fandom generally loved the ending but there was no real way to continue from there. The subreddit, fanfics, and other fandom things are still going strong as far as I know, especially with creative projects.

Edited by lalalei2001 on Aug 14th 2020 at 10:48:18 AM

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