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Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#4176: Jun 12th 2020 at 9:41:51 AM

I've always been wary of the whole Mewni Monster conflict, because making the dudes who got their land invaded baby eating savages always seemed iffy.

But yeah, the finale should have been everybody having magic.

firewriter Since: Dec, 2016
#4177: Jun 12th 2020 at 9:43:18 AM

Or alternatively it could been her destroying the wand.

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#4178: Jun 12th 2020 at 9:47:01 AM

They already did that in Season 1 and it wouldn't have solved anything.

Edited by Aquaconda on Jun 12th 2020 at 11:52:09 AM

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#4179: Jun 12th 2020 at 9:48:08 AM

I feel like Queen Moon helping Mina build the Solarian Warriors was meant for another character,but time constraints meant they give the role to an existing character

Someone like..Toffe

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#4180: Jun 12th 2020 at 9:51:34 AM

[up][up] It was a half step. Toffee had had a goal beyond the wand and Star had no real clue as to what was going on.

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#4181: Jun 12th 2020 at 10:10:45 AM

I did like that the whispering spell at the end of Season 1 set up for the whispering spell at the end of the show, even if nearly everything else was questionable.

Suddenly I'm... still rotating Fallen London in my mind even though I've stopped actively playing it.
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#4183: Jun 14th 2020 at 7:29:06 AM

[up]It reads to me like it’s completely dismissing any of the Fridge Horror on account of it being Fridge.

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VeryVileVillian Since: Dec, 2017
#4184: Jun 14th 2020 at 8:27:01 AM

To me it reads as someone decided to rightfully point out that people overthink things, as "Genocide" thing wasn't even implied through the finale. Fridge Horror is still a Fridge, since if you analyze hard enough 90% of media can have some unpleasant implication. Like Redwall's "All vermins are evil" theme (which is shown to be completely race based, all foxes are evil, all rats shown to be evil and ec.).

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#4185: Jun 14th 2020 at 8:33:18 AM

[up]Moff’s Law is my counterargument.

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VeryVileVillian Since: Dec, 2017
#4186: Jun 14th 2020 at 9:33:12 AM

[up]And like i said this argument is not the best, since people tend to be selective when they apply it, sometimes they ignore horrible implications, because they like the product enough otherwise (which helps them ignore the Fridge Horror parts), sometimes they make big deal out of it and declare the work as "The Worst" (Or its ending as the worst or some other element).

Edited by VeryVileVillian on Jun 14th 2020 at 7:33:37 PM

Joshbones Since: May, 2015
#4187: Jun 14th 2020 at 9:46:46 AM

Mass Genocide is just taking everything to the logical conclusion. If things run on magic, they'll die when the magic is gone. Telling people not to think about it doesn't really help anyone here.

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#4188: Jun 14th 2020 at 9:56:25 AM

[up]Considering that we've seen a great deal of "magical" creatures alive and well after the fact, it's pretty clear that very little actually runs on magic.

Moth13 Since: Sep, 2010
#4189: Jun 14th 2020 at 10:17:29 AM

I feel like when people start super nitpicking something/don't take it on its own terms that usually means the media has already lost them in some other way and is indicative of other, deeper problems.

Anyway I feel the intention of the Star vs. finale is that the Magic High Commission are the only people who were "made" of magic and they deserved what they got so it's fine. Everyone who wasn't directly made from a wand is supposed to be okay, but that intention is horribly communicated and it ends up feeling super awful.

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#4190: Jun 14th 2020 at 12:36:42 PM

The thing that kind of bothers me with all the post series speculations is the idea that the humans would get too upset about the monsters. And while such a reaction is realistic, the humans we have seen in "Star vs." are not realistic at all. They're just a level above the humans of Invader Zim, in that they really tend to not care or notice what happens around them. Magic, monsters, they don't give a damn. They may run And scream, but once the danger is out, they forget that anything even happened. And the reason they're like that is because the show, when humans were prominent, was more of a comedy. That's like, imo, one of the shows biggest problems. It could never really balance it's comedic side with it's serious side,and so it feel a like two different shows even within seasons. Repeating, I think that this is a case of Cerebus Syndrome gone wrong.

Sereg Since: Jun, 2010
#4192: Jun 15th 2020 at 9:07:39 PM

Multiple characters are shown to have died from the magic being destroyed. Star killing multiple individuals isn't just clear from context but actually confirmed on screen.

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#4193: Jun 15th 2020 at 10:20:08 PM

[up] I mean, only the Unicorns are actually shown dying... Evil aggressive dark magic unicorns that barely are sapient... All else is implied and we see tons of magical creatures being alive and fine afterwards

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Ayasugi Since: Oct, 2010
#4194: Jun 15th 2020 at 10:28:18 PM

Unicorns who used to be definitely sapient and benign. But since they're corrupted now, I guess our heroes have no obligation to attempt to cure them or even just protect any uncorrupted survivors.

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#4195: Jun 15th 2020 at 10:31:00 PM

[up] I mean the Unicorns are trying to kill them while they're desperately trying to save their friends from an army they can't win against in a straight fight and are racing against time before they all go kablooey... But hey, let's prioritize the Unicorns

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Ayasugi Since: Oct, 2010
#4196: Jun 15th 2020 at 10:37:29 PM

The unicorns are the source of magic, their leader is Star's offspring in a sense, and Star's whole reason to destroy magic is to prevent the mass murder of monsters, so you'd hope she'd have a few thoughts for the species she's about to wipe out with her actions.

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#4197: Jun 15th 2020 at 11:06:14 PM

[up] Sogh, guess people here will just demonize star for not saving savage vicious beats that are trying to kill her and her friends and prioritizing the safety of the entire monster race over a group of corrupted and evil magic constructs

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Ayasugi Since: Oct, 2010
#4198: Jun 15th 2020 at 11:11:07 PM

And some people will do anything to gloss over that Star's solution to preventing a genocide was to commit one of her own. Whether it's because "they deserved to die" or "they were dangerous", it all comes back to some lives mattering more than others.

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#4199: Jun 15th 2020 at 11:53:53 PM

As long as both sides are going to extremes...that's really all that matters.

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Groverman62 Since: Feb, 2016
#4200: Jun 16th 2020 at 7:33:01 AM

It just doesn't feel right to dismiss magic as some evil force that should be gotten rid of. Magic isn't evil it can be used for good or bad. This solution fet needlessly extreme


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