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M84 Such heroic nonsense from Our little blue planet Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Such heroic nonsense
Aug 21st 2019 at 7:25:19 AM

Yeah, I don't see this helping.

Though I guess she's doing this in part because she wants to talk to people without having to worry about whether or not they are going to throw a tomato at her or something.

Disgusted, but not surprised
TheWildWestPyro Currently attending college in the US. from Hong Kong, China Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
Currently attending college in the US.
Euodiachloris Relationship Status: Is that a kind of food?
Aug 21st 2019 at 1:23:43 PM

[up][up]Nah... iced milk tea shake. Possibly bubbled.

Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent
Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent
Aug 21st 2019 at 5:46:39 PM

There's more evidence of a fake reporter trying to infiltrate HK now:

From NHK:

The Hong Kong Journalists Association says a fake press card was found at a site of a demonstration in the territory.

There are concerns among Hong Kong citizens that people related to the Chinese or Hong Kong government may be collecting information by posing as reporters.

The association says the card of a media outlet in Macau was found on August 4 where a protest took place.

The group says it asked the outlet about the man described on the card, and that it replied that he does not belong to the organization and the card is fake.

Separately, at a police news conference on Tuesday, Hong Kong journalists said a TV reporter from mainland China persistently took images of them with her smartphone.

They said they asked the reporter whether she was trying to deliver personal information to the central government.

A TV station in Guangdong Province protested the act in a statement.

There is also speculation in Hong Kong that police may be slipping into demonstrations to monitor participants.

Protests continue in the territory, triggered by a bill that would allow the transfer of suspects to mainland China to face trial.

"Exit muna si Polgas. Ang kailangan dito ay si Dobermaxx!"
eagleoftheninth Putting the 'romance' in 'necromancer' from the Holy Ramen Empire Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
M84 Such heroic nonsense from Our little blue planet Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Such heroic nonsense
Aug 22nd 2019 at 2:19:38 AM

I guess if I was a millionaire with a vested interest in not having my head on the metaphorical guillotine, a country with a millionaires-only visa program would be pretty appealing.

Disgusted, but not surprised
Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent
Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent
Aug 22nd 2019 at 5:13:39 AM

According to mainland Public Security Police, Simon Cheng was arrested before going back to report to the British consulate due to public security crimes... by meeting with a hooker.

They didn't elaborate.

"Exit muna si Polgas. Ang kailangan dito ay si Dobermaxx!"
eagleoftheninth Putting the 'romance' in 'necromancer' from the Holy Ramen Empire Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Putting the 'romance' in 'necromancer'
Aug 22nd 2019 at 6:42:36 AM

Nvm.

Edited by eagleoftheninth on Aug 22nd 2019 at 6:42:56 AM

Visit Kuban!
TheWildWestPyro Currently attending college in the US. from Hong Kong, China Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
FluffyMcChicken Illegitimis non carborundum from On a long walk to India Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
Illegitimis non carborundum
Aug 22nd 2019 at 8:03:15 PM

Chinese trolls and state media are making Mulan memes to demonize protestors as Xiongnu

No seriously, Shan Yu is labeled as a “protest leader”, his troops as “Hong Kong rioters”, Mulan and Shang as “heroic policemen”, and Chi-fu cowardly hiding as “helpless citizens”.

"You can hold one block can't you?"
KazuyaProta Porky from A Industrial Farm Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Porky
Aug 22nd 2019 at 8:04:35 PM

We have entered to the weirdest timeline.

Watch me destroying my country
M84 Such heroic nonsense from Our little blue planet Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Such heroic nonsense
Aug 22nd 2019 at 8:07:08 PM

Have I mentioned that I hate meme culture?

Because I hate meme culture.

Wait a minute. I hate memes, I hate Twitter, I hate Instagram, I hate Facebook, I hate social media in general...

...Does this make me a hipster? Do I have to buy horn-rimmed glasses and start wearing plaid?

Edited by M84 on Aug 22nd 2019 at 11:08:16 PM

Disgusted, but not surprised
Aug 22nd 2019 at 8:14:21 PM

Yes, but then you'd have to take selfies and put them on Snapchat afterwards.

I don't have my glasses so I can't read anything. I don't even know how I drove here.
M84 Such heroic nonsense from Our little blue planet Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Such heroic nonsense
Aug 22nd 2019 at 8:15:02 PM

Oh mercy, no. I think I'll pass.

Probably for the best. I hate plaid.

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stairwalker Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Aug 22nd 2019 at 9:34:42 PM

The HKPF said the Hong Kong Way human chain demonstration "may cause disturbances" and tried to discourage citizens from joining "illegal assemblies". (No news report on this in English yet, just Chinese ones) The demonstration will start 6.5 hours from now.

Ramidel Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Aug 22nd 2019 at 10:39:44 PM

Reports are coming to suggest that Hogg gave his name alongside Paul Loo to the CAAC as a form of taking the bullet for HK-based staff who support the protests.

Now that is how you stand up for your people with style.

Fiat justitia ruat caelum.
Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent
Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent
Aug 22nd 2019 at 11:42:17 PM

The detained employee (British consulate)'s family is rejecting mainland Public Security press releases that he's arrested for visiting a hooker.

"Exit muna si Polgas. Ang kailangan dito ay si Dobermaxx!"
TheWildWestPyro Currently attending college in the US. from Hong Kong, China Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
Currently attending college in the US.
Aug 23rd 2019 at 1:15:27 AM

One for you, Fluffy; China's soft power failure in dealing with Hong Kong.

An article on Jimmy Lai, Hong Kong media baron and head of the proudly anti-Xi Apple Daily tabloid newspaper.

Also, someone should correct me if I'm wrong, but I don't think the protesters have hit the famous Times Square shopping mall in Causeway Bay yet?

Edited by TheWildWestPyro on Aug 23rd 2019 at 1:20:04 AM

Funny how the world works.
Aug 23rd 2019 at 2:49:41 AM

Re soft power: While China's attempts to smear the Hong Kong protestors are much less likely to work in the West besides a few fringe pro-China figures, they are more likely to be spread and supported in some other countries like mine (Malaysia).

Certain local Chinese, particularly the older generation, are a lot more inclined to support anything the Chinese government does and frown on anyone that opposes it (mainly Western countries), mainly due to difficult local race relations and a perception of being bullied by the West in the past that made some of them wish for a strong and powerful China to "protect" them and to be proud of, and they don't care if it's authoritarian.

That said, it's not a universal feeling, and most younger local Chinese seem to be largely neutral to the whole issue, but with news and posts from Hong Kong being widely shared here, the ease of misinformation being created and the difficulty of spotting it, I fear their minds could also be easily swayed to support crackdowns on "rioters".

Edited by Alycus on Aug 23rd 2019 at 2:52:00 AM

Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent
Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent
Aug 23rd 2019 at 3:03:19 AM

@Times Square

- Checking social media. Looks fine


Sharing that feeling, my father is not supporting China, but is kinda pessimistic, for the same reasons that the Umbrella movement fizzled out for months.

"Exit muna si Polgas. Ang kailangan dito ay si Dobermaxx!"
stairwalker Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Aug 23rd 2019 at 7:36:57 AM

[up]The protests are not going to fizzle out any time soon while the police is constantly fueling public anger.
https://news.rthk.hk/rthk/en/component/k2/1476348-20190823.htm?spTabChangeable=0

The Hong Kong Way demonstration ended without police interference. The crowd at Wong Tai Sin station was much larger than anticipated and we stood almost shoulder to shoulder. I doubt the government would do anything in response, but at least this keeps morale up.

TheWildWestPyro Currently attending college in the US. from Hong Kong, China Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
Currently attending college in the US.
Aug 23rd 2019 at 10:34:35 AM

Well done, and keep going.

Funny how the world works.
Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent
Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent
Aug 24th 2019 at 1:37:22 AM

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-49431513

Cathay Pacific staff are getting paranoid in the wake of some staff being forced to quit before Hogg made himself a sacrificial lamb to the CAAC.

It doesn’t help that mainland China is a major market, so I get why CP management is forced to crack down.

"Exit muna si Polgas. Ang kailangan dito ay si Dobermaxx!"
TheWildWestPyro Currently attending college in the US. from Hong Kong, China Relationship Status: Healthy, deeply-felt respect for this here Shotgun
Currently attending college in the US.
Ominae Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent
Organized Canine Bureau Special Agent
Aug 25th 2019 at 12:56:54 AM

Some news from SCMP:

Central government advisers on Hong Kong affairs on Saturday said that Beijing had the right to intervene to resolve the crisis in the city and that mobilising PLA troops to do so would not bring an end to the “one country, two systems” agreement.

The remarks were made at a seminar attended by 40 advisers and political heavyweights in Shenzhen, which borders Hong Kong. It was organised by the Chinese Association of Hong Kong and Macau Studies, a semi-official mainland think tank.

Those attending the seminar studied speeches on the city given by former leader Deng Xiaoping, as riot police were using tear gas on protesters in Hong Kong during a 12th successive weekend of anti-government demonstrations triggered by a now-shelved extradition bill.

Xu Ze, association head and a former deputy director of the Hong Kong and Macau Affairs Office, said that the violence seen during the protests had shaken the fundamental interests of Hong Kong and the nation, and that criminal activities that aimed to destroy constitutional order should not be tolerated.

“This situation we are facing is a decisive war between defending ‘one country, two systems’ or jeopardising it,” he said, referring to the framework under which Hong Kong is part of China but has its own political, legal, economic and financial systems.

“Hong Kong faces the risk of sinking if the current situation continues to spread.”

The seminar organised by a semi-official mainland think tank was attended by 40 advisers and political heavyweights. Photo: Weibo

He said there needed to be better understanding of Hong Kong’s constitutional order – based on China’s constitution and the Basic Law – to resolve the problem. Xu added that Hong Kong should also fully grasp the opportunity for economic development created by the Greater Bay Area, a scheme to link it with Macau and nine cities in Guangdong in an integrated business hub.

Beijing has escalated its rhetoric on the city in recent weeks, especially after the central government’s liaison office in Hong Kong was vandalised, and has said that violence, especially against the police, was showing “signs of terrorism”.

Maria Tam Wai-chu, a deputy chairwoman of the Basic Law Committee under the National People’s Congress Standing Committee, said “one country, two systems” and the city’s high level of autonomy did not mean the central government would not intervene.

“Chaos is happening in Hong Kong, and the central government of course can intervene,” she said. “Intervention would be to bring [the city] back to order and get ‘one country, two systems’ on the right track.”

Tam also said the People’s Liberation Army’s Hong Kong garrison was an important part of “one country, two systems”.

“In addition to being a symbol of China resuming its sovereignty over Hong Kong, the PLA troops in Hong Kong can also stop chaos,” she said.

Lau Siu-kai, vice-chairman of the think tank, said ideally Hong Kong could resolve the crisis itself to prove that it could govern the city and protect national sovereignty.

But he added that even if the central government decided to intervene, it would not mean the end of “one country, two systems” in Hong Kong.

“On the contrary, the central government is fulfilling its duty to the nation and Hong Kong, and ensuring that ‘one country, two systems’ can continue on a steady path without the interference and damage of anti-China forces in Hong Kong,” he said.

The Chinese military has said it can be deployed to Hong Kong to maintain social order at the request of the city’s government, based on the Garrison Law. Paramilitary troops have also been mobilised in Shenzhen in recent weeks – a move seen as sending a warning to the city. But observers say mobilising troops to resolve the crisis would be a last resort for the central government.

"Exit muna si Polgas. Ang kailangan dito ay si Dobermaxx!"

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