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IraTheSquire Since: Apr, 2010
#251: Oct 3rd 2014 at 8:00:20 PM

Relevant news from SCMP, the local English Hong Kong newspaper.

Stop shooting yourself in the foot, people! You're embarrassing yourself.

edited 3rd Oct '14 8:00:31 PM by IraTheSquire

KnightofNASA Since: Jan, 2013
#252: Oct 3rd 2014 at 8:08:52 PM

You don't need rent-a-mob for that. There are people who genuine are anti-democracy and pro-CPC.

IraTheSquire Since: Apr, 2010
#253: Oct 3rd 2014 at 10:11:01 PM

Some of them are triad members and have been overheard talking about transactions "500 dollars will be enough."

Which is why it is completely unnecessary and they're shooting themselves in the foot.

Ominae Since: Jul, 2010
#254: Oct 3rd 2014 at 10:23:50 PM

https://ph.news.yahoo.com/blogs/daily-buzz/dramatic-clip-captures-the-ugly-side-of-hong-kong-165304939.html

Someone got footage of a PTU officer applying pepper sprays to an elderly person. The latter was grabbed by said officer on the shoulder first before said event happened.

edited 4th Oct '14 5:56:23 AM by Ominae

JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#255: Oct 4th 2014 at 9:41:44 AM

The Protestors have been given a deadline Oh how I hate Mondays.

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#256: Oct 4th 2014 at 10:38:12 AM

:( I think the odds are against the pro-democracy protestors.

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demarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#257: Oct 4th 2014 at 10:52:38 AM

Which the organizers have known from the very beginning. They've made their point, when eventually everyone goes home, they merely start planning for the next action.

Main Hong Kong protest sees resurgence after attacks on demonstrators.

edited 4th Oct '14 3:57:19 PM by demarquis

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Ominae Since: Jul, 2010
#258: Oct 4th 2014 at 6:57:49 PM

Heard an interview with Lord Chris Patten about his thoughts on the protests via podcast.

demarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#259: Oct 4th 2014 at 8:20:28 PM

Link or summary?

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Ominae Since: Jul, 2010
#260: Oct 4th 2014 at 8:25:59 PM

Nothing much. He's very weary about Beijing's interference with the plans for the 2017 elections. At the same time, he believed that his predecessors in British Hong Kong should have done more to make sure the rights of the Hong Kong populace were met.

Ominae Since: Jul, 2010
IraTheSquire Since: Apr, 2010
#262: Oct 5th 2014 at 6:23:36 PM

Counterpoint:

1) If the rumors are right the PRC actually doesn't want to interfere too much with Hong Kong affairs. The problem is that there are "pro-Beijing" groups and parties in Hong Kong who seem to keep missing that memo and try to kiss the PRC's ass.

2) It's not just that simple as "the PRC wants to scan through the candidates" - as mentioned in my translated article people in Hong Kong does not mind the PRC having the final say on who gets to be the chief executive. The problem now they're having is that the current progress that generates chief executive is completely broken and heavily skewered towards businesses (1200 election committee and you can only take part either to choose those people or to become one of those people if you own business, and the more you own the more influence you get). It is the developers and massively rich people who are in control. And the proposed "reform" makes this problem worse as those 1200 people are still in complete control.

Not to mention saying that "democracy is bad because Bush" is ignoring all those times when the US system is working properly (only 4 elections out of 57 where there have been problems is very impressive).

edited 5th Oct '14 6:33:44 PM by IraTheSquire

Ominae Since: Jul, 2010
#263: Oct 5th 2014 at 7:48:11 PM

Saw live CNN feeds from Hong Kong that protestors are slowly withdrawing from protest sites on their own.

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#264: Oct 5th 2014 at 7:54:33 PM

I like how he complains about racist views of mainland china from Hong Kong and then goes and says " In actuality all Hong Kong people came from the Mainland, this is a proven fact as every Hong Kong citizen can trace their roots back to the Mainland."

Yea, sure, no one who lives in hong kong comes from any other country right?

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JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#265: Oct 6th 2014 at 4:49:22 PM

So should the protests be considered over now?

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IraTheSquire Since: Apr, 2010
#266: Oct 6th 2014 at 4:51:42 PM

Well, given that the talks have started I think we should keep going until everyone is off the streets.

demarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#267: Oct 6th 2014 at 4:55:50 PM

The protest leaders claim that they have plans for various kinds of unspecified "activities" after the actual street-protest is over, so it depends on what you mean.

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IraTheSquire Since: Apr, 2010
#268: Oct 6th 2014 at 5:03:30 PM

Occupy Central leaders said that, but I'm not certain about the Student Federation.

Also, the majority of the protest was generated as a reaction to police tear gas on students and was not really organised by any central leaders/groups.

Ominae Since: Jul, 2010
#270: Oct 8th 2014 at 1:49:18 AM

http://edition.cnn.com/2014/10/07/world/asia/china-hong-kong-protests/

Some discontent exists within some sectors of the public, including public transport workers and small business owners.

Ominae Since: Jul, 2010
#272: Oct 8th 2014 at 3:25:03 AM

True, unless something happens.

Ominae Since: Jul, 2010
#274: Oct 8th 2014 at 4:44:35 AM

I don't think it'll end well with that agent provocateur revelation.

JackOLantern1337 Shameful Display from The Most Miserable Province in the Russian Empir Since: Aug, 2014 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#275: Oct 8th 2014 at 2:12:42 PM

None of the major sources are reporting anything about the provocation.

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