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Reichs and Fall, the WWII era Superheroics RP (Discussion Thread)

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CathariSarad (Not-So-Newbie)
#76: Jun 29th 2014 at 10:32:04 PM

STRATEGY!!!

Also, Eachiunn, I'm pretty sure NPC Russian commander is legit, but Fyodor thinks she is spy because her name doesn't follow Russian naming conventions or something like that. I could be wrong, but Fyodor would expect her last name to be something like Denisova since, from what I've gathered, Russian surnames and patronymics differentiate for gender. I'm not sure if she would have changed this while in an English speaking country. I haven't looked that hard, but I couldn't find the name Natasya. Natasha is a shortened form of Natalia or Natalya, which are different forms. Also, when Fyodor asked British commanding dude, he was fishing to see how she introduced herself, which components of her name she gave and in what order did she give them. If anyone who has done more than a few hours of research can correct me, please do so. This is probably too much to ask for a campy RP, but I'm just playing Fyodor how I think he would realistically act in this situation.

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#77: Jun 29th 2014 at 10:56:26 PM

[up]No worries, I actually know nothing of Russian naming conventions. I swear I knew a girl of Russian descent back in 8th grade who's first name was Natasya.

I might need to retcon that later.

CathariSarad (Not-So-Newbie)
#78: Jun 29th 2014 at 11:03:03 PM

No worries. I only learned this stuff while making my character, and I'm not 100% sure if all my information is correct/accurate, as I only looked on tvtropes and wikipedia articles.

Eachiunn Rise Above Fate from Yes Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#79: Jun 29th 2014 at 11:23:47 PM

[up]Good enough for me.

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#80: Jun 30th 2014 at 8:13:44 PM

Russian names follow a simple pattern: [first name] [patronymic] [last name]. The easiest way to see if you're doing it right is to look up real-life Russian names and ape that pattern; the patronymic can get tricky since it differs between male (-ovich) and female (-eva).

Anyway, in-character and out, I am hoping to get answers to the operational questions I asked last page. Infiltrating enemy-held territory and getting back out alive is not exactly a walk in St. James Gardens.

What are the expected enemy forces? Friendly troop strengths? Infiltration and exfiltration methods, keeping in mind that backups may be needed? What information will we have on the target site? What's primary and secondary objectives once there? What's command-and-control on our side going to look like, keeping in mind that long-range radio invites direction-finding and short-range walkie-talkies are the size of hiking backpacks? What's our plan for dealing with our wounded? Et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

And if it seems like I'm getting hung up details, I'd like to point you towards a favorite quote of mine from Adm. H. G. Rickover: "the Devil is in the details, but so is salvation." You get very used to careful planning, even in RPs, when you've experienced the joys of watching your party get pinned down by superior enemy forces because of a planning screwup, or watching your party's plans crash and burn because we didn't pick out a leader ahead of time.

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BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#81: Jun 30th 2014 at 8:15:36 PM

Speaking of which, I wonder who will end up being the leader of this mission?

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#82: Jun 30th 2014 at 8:20:26 PM

[up]Your guess is as good as mine, you should know soon-ish.

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#83: Jun 30th 2014 at 9:49:26 PM

Oh, and a crazy historical suggestion. If we've found that "getting out of France" may be a difficult proposition, we could make the assault date August 19, 1942, and the target building somewhere near Dieppe, France.

This way, we could link up with the beachhead and then get out that way. Maybe in this alternate 'verse, the Dieppe Raid could be more than just a bloody badly-planned failure, since it'd have the possibility of achieving a genuine intelligence success about the German superhero program. (Although given that we're only hearing about our mission one day before we're supposed to do it, "badly-planned" remains a definite possibility. :V)

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#84: Jun 30th 2014 at 11:41:00 PM

While Herja is 90% viking anger, I think she does have a fair point. Only three people have stepped up to lead, the others were too busy groaning and moaning :P

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#85: Jun 30th 2014 at 11:47:32 PM

I suppose she is the most experienced, but she will also likely cause problems too.

Of course, most of the characters in the game would likely cause different problems by leading.

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#86: Jul 1st 2014 at 12:17:46 AM

I've got Justina ready to take the snarky staff officer role and arranging for the logistics to be sorted out (if and when I switch to her, plus it'll let me leverage my WWII-buff knowledge) but Rai's an ordinary squaddie; he's not trained to coordinate and lead something like this.

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Eachiunn Rise Above Fate from Yes Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#87: Jul 1st 2014 at 12:23:03 AM

The Random Number Generator has spoken, Black Flame will be in charge of the upcoming mission.

Time to get to work on that post of mine.

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#88: Jul 1st 2014 at 12:24:13 AM

Oh, damn. Just when Herja's starting to get some support.

...maybe as a squad leader or something?

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Eachiunn Rise Above Fate from Yes Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#89: Jul 1st 2014 at 12:26:48 AM

[up]Worth considering, let me think this one over a bit before I actually get the post up.

Also, if any of you want someone in particular to be in charge, go ahead and nominate them.

CathariSarad (Not-So-Newbie)
#90: Jul 1st 2014 at 12:36:01 AM

Randomly generated commanders? Well, this should be interesting. In universe, Herja might be the best choice hearing from Rai's limited combat experience.

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#91: Jul 1st 2014 at 2:12:53 AM

Herja nominated herself to stop the bickering, she has also said before she'll defer to whatever the Warleader (general ) says so, though. Anyone is better than doughnut...I mean Glory.

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#92: Jul 1st 2014 at 4:59:48 AM

Keep in mind that Vikings did have a limited level of democracy when it came to choosing a leader so Herja would be familiar with the concept.

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#93: Jul 1st 2014 at 5:08:19 AM

Yup. But hey, beats moaning "we're doomed" and "everyone is fighting already" and "AMURRIKA!"

Eachiunn Rise Above Fate from Yes Since: Jun, 2013 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
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#94: Jul 1st 2014 at 6:02:50 AM

Well, the popular choice seems to be Herja at the moment, so I suppose we'll make Black Flame second in command and see how that goes.

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#95: Jul 1st 2014 at 7:51:34 AM

The Random Number Generator has spoken, Black Flame will be in charge of the upcoming mission.

You know what this means? Collective decision making! grin

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#96: Jul 1st 2014 at 12:55:04 PM

Democratic leadership of an army: absolutely nothing can go wrong there!

...I'll start prepping medevac procedures just in case.

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BaconManiac5000 Since: Nov, 2013 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
#97: Jul 1st 2014 at 1:08:03 PM

I think I do want those healing powers, after all.

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#98: Jul 1st 2014 at 1:48:33 PM

[up][up] It worked fine for Spanish militias and the Black Army, and Black Flame fought in the Spanish militias, so she would have first hand knowledge of this sort of thing.

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#99: Jul 1st 2014 at 1:52:56 PM

We'll just have to see how well it'll work for a professional army. I've read Orwell's descripts of how well it worked with militias on a theatre of war where everything could more or less be improvised because their enemies' organizational/logistical skills were at the same level. Against the Wehrmacht, well. (Plus—the militias lost.)

We'll need a procedure for "no arguments right now, everyone do as I say or we're all dead", for when the inevitable happens and everyone comes up with a different plan.

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#100: Jul 1st 2014 at 2:16:21 PM

[up][up] If you mean just fine as an absolute hodgepodge which crumbled apart under the much better organized and coordinated National side...

(Did i mention I was spanish?)


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