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Alucard Lazy? from Vancouver, BC Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#1: Jun 12th 2014 at 5:31:47 PM

Let It Die is a brutal PS 4 exclusive from Suda51. Here's the man's philosophy on the game:

The theme of Let it Die is survival action. We see the player kill enemies and on the flip side, you’re just trying to survive. When you think about the title, another way of looking at it is you’re trying to live. In the trailer there is a scene where a character grabs sand from the ground and throws it at the enemy. You can kind of see what players will do when they don’t have items or weapons in the beginning and they’re fighting to survive. The violence in this game is just a byproduct of trying to survive.

Here's the page on it.

You may have first heard of this game as Lily Bergamo, but it was changed mid-development into Let It Die. Tae Ioroi, who appeared in the initial reveal won't be in the game.

So, any thoughts on this gory title?

edited 13th Jun '14 11:13:47 AM by Alucard

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#2: Jun 12th 2014 at 6:41:32 PM

[up] Judging by that description, sounds like a spiritual successor to Manhunt.

Alucard Lazy? from Vancouver, BC Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#3: Jun 13th 2014 at 11:20:43 AM

It's got a pretty visceral, Manhunt vibe to it. It was pretty much the most metal trailer across the entire E3 conference (still not sure what the song is). Having death on the logo riding a skateboard is a pretty good sign of how lightly the game is treating death.

edited 13th Jun '14 11:22:20 AM by Alucard

nervmeister Since: Oct, 2010
#4: Jun 13th 2014 at 11:51:33 AM

I'm just unsure of whether it'll be hit or miss.

nomuru2d Gamer-turning-maker from Port Saint Lucie, FL Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
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#5: Jun 20th 2014 at 11:25:13 PM

[up]Wouldn't be a Suda 51 game without that type of thinking.

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#6: Jun 21st 2014 at 7:38:40 AM

I like Suda 51 but I got to see gameplay first before I can get interested in it.

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nomuru2d Gamer-turning-maker from Port Saint Lucie, FL Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
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#7: Jun 21st 2014 at 8:43:01 AM

[up]My previous post still stands for that kind of thinking.

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Demongodofchaos2 Face me now, Bitch! from Eldritch Nightmareland Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
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#8: Jun 21st 2014 at 6:59:55 PM

The sheer volume of Salt on Siliconera about Tae Ioroi not being in the game is amusing (Though I will probably miss her, too).

edited 21st Jun '14 7:00:20 PM by Demongodofchaos2

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Alucard Lazy? from Vancouver, BC Since: Jan, 2011 Relationship Status: Showing feelings of an almost human nature
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#9: Jun 22nd 2014 at 7:14:43 AM

[up]They're calling LID a generic abomination, for whatever reason. From a minute and a half trailer...

Anyway, here's a Siliconera interview:

http://www.siliconera.com/2014/06/20/lily-bergamo-turned-let-die/

Turns out it's a free-to-play game.

edited 22nd Jun '14 5:11:31 PM by Alucard

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#10: Jun 22nd 2014 at 8:33:06 AM

Since it is a free to play game, we will sell items, but this won’t be pay to win. We can’t go into details about this right now though.

Color me skeptical.

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YoKab Since: Jan, 2015
#11: Apr 12th 2016 at 5:40:00 AM

Some more info. The link also includes this:

edited 12th Apr '16 5:42:05 AM by YoKab

nomuru2d Gamer-turning-maker from Port Saint Lucie, FL Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Longing for Dulcinea
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#12: Apr 30th 2016 at 6:38:48 PM

Interview with Suda 51.

Link also contains the first teaser for Grasshopper's next project.

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TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#13: May 8th 2016 at 7:57:16 AM

So, um, hey, is it weird that I may have come up with a Work page for Lily Bergamo even though the game's pretty much nonexistent?

Actually, looking back at it kinda makes me hope Suda does something with the world he had when Let It Die was still Lily Bergamo, like have it set for a different project or otherwise, at least do something with Tae Ioroi in the future.

edited 8th May '16 7:57:40 AM by TargetmasterJoe

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#14: Dec 7th 2016 at 10:58:20 AM

Sooooo... this apparently came out quietly on Saturday. Anyone play it yet? Is there anything particularly Suda 51-ish to it?

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TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#15: Dec 7th 2016 at 11:16:53 AM

[up] I wish. I don't exactly have a PS 4, so I can't say.

However, someone did post the game's first hour of gameplay, so see for yourself:

LordVatek Not really a lord of anything Since: Sep, 2014
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#16: Dec 7th 2016 at 11:33:52 AM

I've only seen the launch trailer but it's about Suda 51 as it gets without going full-on anime.

This song needs more love.
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#17: Dec 7th 2016 at 5:57:25 PM

The title of the game makes me want to make a song parody of Let It Go.

Let it die... Let it dieeee... Can't hold it anymore.... Let it die... Let it dieeee...

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#18: Dec 13th 2016 at 4:53:05 PM

Been playing for a while.

Its definitely a very hard rougelike, though luckily, the mastery of stats carries over to a new fighter if you don't have the death metals to ressurrect your current one.

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SgtRicko Since: Jul, 2009
#19: Dec 13th 2016 at 11:48:58 PM

So, it's free to play, eh? Guess I'll start downloading it tonight, try it out on my PS 4 tomorrow.

From what I'm hearing though, the items you can spend real-world currency on are problematic; namely, that you can instantly resurrect your character with real world cash and speed up the development of things.

But hey, Suda 51's stuff has always been great otherwise, so I'm willing to forgive those faults. Can't imagine him wanting it that way anyhow, it was probably an executive management decision above his level.

SgtRicko Since: Jul, 2009
#20: Dec 15th 2016 at 5:23:00 AM

Well this is annoying. I can't seem to progress onto the 4th floor, no matter what I do. And from what I'm reading online the issue I'm encountering is usually due to the game not completely installing... which can't be, because I waited for it to finish before playing.

I'll try again tomorrow, but right now I'm kinda bummed out about progressing further...

KnownUnknown Since: Jan, 2001
#21: Dec 15th 2016 at 2:19:10 PM

[up]*4:

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SgtRicko Since: Jul, 2009
#22: Dec 17th 2016 at 3:30:36 PM

Looks like all the game needed was just for me to reset the console - it's playing fine and allowing me to pass unto the 4th floor and beyond.

Let It Die is shaping up to be a slightly less smooth handling Dark Souls mixed with permadeath, rouge-like dungeons and loot, and one bizarre setting partly inspired by grind-house, heavy metal and Japanese culture mixed with some oddball American stuff too. Since Suda 51 was involved, and his stories make even LESS sense than anything Hideo Kojima could cook up, you'd better be ready to constantly go "what the eff did I just witness???" throughout. At least it's not an irritating sort of confusion however - you're clearly meant to puzzle out certain elements of the plot, and there are clues in the collectible brochures and comics lying about in the levels.

Because of how easy it is to lose fighters, you quickly realize that grinding the first few starting areas is absolutely necessary. This is both for the sake of collecting resources and at least leveling up your team to have a decent chance. But don't ever become attached to anything, because the game doesn't allow you to level up your characters beyond their set limits, nor does any of the equipment you collect last long. Keep that in mind whenever one of your "prized" fighters go down; they probably won't be seeing much use after a certain point when the better types become available.

The bad news though is the constant raids against your Waitroom via the Tokyo Death Metro. It reminds me of Metal Gear Solid 5's FOB invasion mechanic all over again, only this time since your characters can potentially get kidnapped, it's FAR more painful of a loss whenever you're successfully raided. At least the resources stolen from your Waitroom isn't a significant amount during the early game.

And finally, I've also had a chance to see the final boss and the game's ending on Youtube. Let's just say that the final boss has a LOT of cheap moves and an absurd amount of HP, and prior to that you're put into a sort of small semi-sumo wrestler arena that will basically insta-kill you anytime you fall out bounds. Not painful, at first... until they pit you against freaking COEN, the big, burly mutant who specializes at knocking you around AND can't be knocked out of the arena either! Basically, it seems the devs made the boss as difficult as possible to force players to waste Death Metal coins on constantly reviving during the fight. Honestly, watching that fight (plus the ending) sapped a lot of the motivation I had to endure.

Well, the game was free, so it's not like I lost any cash. And like I said at the beginning it's a fun game, but from floors 20 and above it starts using cheap tricks and inflates the price on everything to stifle progress and encourage you to use real world cash to progress. That, or begin grinding the lower levels of Tower which I'm finding myself doing mostly as of now.

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#23: Dec 17th 2016 at 7:00:51 PM

Anyone notice the jingle that plays before the Gore-Tastic kill animations? Yup, blatant Mortal Kombat reference [lol] .

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LeGarcon Blowout soon fellow Stalker from Skadovsk Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: Gay for Big Boss
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#24: Dec 28th 2016 at 3:43:01 PM

Got the game cause I saw some gifs of Uncle Death on tumblr, thought he looked entertaining. He was and I love him.

I've just reached the surface and despite bringing my guns and my armor I'm getting my ass handed to me. What do I do at this point? I feel like I've hit a bit of a wall.

Oh really when?
SgtRicko Since: Jul, 2009
#25: Dec 28th 2016 at 6:20:52 PM

Get one of the newer Tier II fighters and start leveling them up. The guys that only reach up to lvl 25 are now outdated and only good for Tokyo Death Metro Wait Room defense (and even that won't be for very much longer, either...)

Oh, and the Haters are gonna become the single biggest pain in the ass you'll run into, especially the guys with the Machetes. Not much you can do about them, but keeping one of the transparentshrooms handy, sneaking up on them for a body slam, and then hitting them with a debuff grenade is probably going to become your go-to strategy. Might not hurt to have the lifesavermushroom equipped at all times too, in the event they get in more than a three-hit combo (which happens frequently).

Oh, another thing! Whenever you get rewarded SPI Lthium or kill coins, keep them in the rewards box and only remove them when you need it. It'll prevent your earnings from getting stolen by TDM raiders.

edited 28th Dec '16 6:23:53 PM by SgtRicko


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