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slimcoder Black-Hearted Evil or Brave-Hearted Hero
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Feb 21st 2020 at 5:46:25 PM

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Feb 21st 2020 at 5:47:23 PM

[up][up] Not too fond of Sonic Boom's design?

Feb 21st 2020 at 5:49:27 PM

I dunno about a potential movie-only villain (if that's what you're implying here), but if he's not some mindless killing machine, I'm for it.

Metal Sonic? Heís from Sonic CD, and is a recurring villain in the games. Also thereís a ton of other Sonic duplicates in the games, including one at the end of S&K.

If youíre talking about Chaos, heís from Sonic Adventure.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Feb 21st 2020 at 5:54:33 AM

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Feb 21st 2020 at 6:30:41 PM

[up]Chaos would be cool but I worry Paramount could force him to speak.

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Feb 21st 2020 at 6:48:00 PM

Pokemon are the Pokemon world's version of normal wildlife and unlike Sonic, they're native to the setting. Were the lizard-people supposed to be who was after Sonic in the beginning?

But yeah, executives often aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer when it comes to what audiences want.

Edited by theLibrarian on Feb 21st 2020 at 8:50:04 AM

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Feb 21st 2020 at 7:29:03 PM

[up]I'm thinking the lizard people were conceptualized because Paramount didn't realize at that point that they had the rights to use the echidna characters. Inexcusable since everyone has known since day one (when it was first picked up by Sony) that this would be part of a cinematic franchise.

Edited by Mario1995 on Feb 21st 2020 at 10:30:23 AM

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Feb 21st 2020 at 8:28:34 PM

Yeeaaah, not gonna lie. I canít fault them for not being sure they could use the echidnas without trouble, if that is indeed the reason.

SEGA itself barely uses the echidnas for that same reason, and itís their damn series.

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Feb 21st 2020 at 8:41:08 PM

I thought they just can't use any of the characters Penders came up with...and they are just choosing not to touch a lot of other characters to be extra safe.

I know they are locked out of all the characters Penders created for sure.

Man, that dude really stuck a knife in the franchise. Sega needs to hire some deadly Ninjas just for him.

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Feb 21st 2020 at 9:20:02 PM

Fair enough.

Lets put that behind us.

Getting back on the Echidnas, Sega could use the ones they invented independently.

Tikal is just a ghost sealed in the Master Emerald. I'd like to see her come back some day.

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Feb 21st 2020 at 9:31:36 PM

Out of all the characters that disappeared after a single game and never came back (Kinda, she was in SA 2's multiplayer mode.) I think Tikal, Chaos and Gamma are the ones with the most goodwill towards them. Though Gamma kind of was overtaken by Omega in the games as 'Eggman robot who fights Eggman' while being less die-happy.

So the way I see it, if they adapted Sonic Adventure it'd be easy to have Tikal and Chaos show up, wring some pretty good plot out of that. Maybe have Knuckles do the exploring and getting exposited at by Tikal in flashbacks while Sonic and Tails fight against Eggman.

(I also want to see Neo Metal Sonic but acknowledge that THAT is pretty unlikely.)

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Feb 22nd 2020 at 9:00:56 AM

So it looks like Sonic is facing some stiff competition from Call of the Wild, even though the latter isn't expected to turn a profit.

The big question now is how profitable Sonic will be to have Paramount justify doing the sequel. Even if it doesn't happen Paramount would be mad not to exploit the license through other mediums.

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Primis from Nsburg
Feb 22nd 2020 at 9:09:38 AM

How well a competitor does, doesn't really have any impact on whether or not a film gets a sequel, so long as the film itself was profitable.

And Paramount does not own Sonic. They cannot do anything other than make movies.

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Feb 22nd 2020 at 9:29:53 AM

It would be interesting to see Tikal in the movie franchise, although it's hard to say at this point just how far this movie franchise will go depending on how successful each movie will be.

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Also, I think that Paramount is going to make a sequel for this movie anyway because it managed to make back its budget and even the writers and the directors were talking about a possible sequel being on the way.

Edited by Rabbitearsblog on Feb 22nd 2020 at 9:34:34 AM

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Feb 22nd 2020 at 11:36:45 AM

I saw the trailer for Call of the Wild.

Sonic looks more realistic than the dog.

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Feb 22nd 2020 at 11:38:57 AM

It looks creepy....

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Feb 22nd 2020 at 12:05:18 PM

[up][up][up]If that were the case, WB would've announced a Detective Pikachu sequel since the movie was ultimately profitable, but nope. It wasn't enough.

A film isn't automatically profitable just because it made its budget back. WarCraft made back its budget thanks to China but ultimately cost Universal and Legendary millions because it bombed everywhere else.

Most analysis I've seen regarding Sonic's budget suggests it needs to make $170 million to break even. Even if worldwide gross helps the movie go beyond that number, what if it can't make that number in North America alone? And how long will it take to get there?

That makes a difference on whether or not the sequel gets a higher or lower budget.

Edited by Mario1995 on Feb 22nd 2020 at 3:18:24 PM

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Feb 22nd 2020 at 2:28:28 PM

I guess we'll see how the international numbers turn out. I'm so sorry about the virus situation going on at China at the moment.

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Feb 22nd 2020 at 2:54:11 PM

Given the exact words used in The Stinger I can't help but imagine a sequel as an adaptation of Sonic Christmas Blast. XD

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Feb 22nd 2020 at 4:35:11 PM

That would be something to see...

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Feb 22nd 2020 at 7:00:29 PM

[up][up]Without Sally, since Paramount probably doesn't have the rights to her.

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Feb 22nd 2020 at 7:01:15 PM

Ended up watching this today for my sister's birthday when we couldn't find the movie she wanted to see, which was Dolittle.

My sister and mom quite liked it and so did I. I could actually buy this as an origin story for Sonic and Eggman.

My main worry was that this would focus more on Tom, but no, Sonic IS the primary focus through and through.

Jim Carrey slayed as Robotnik/Eggman ("You keep being you...seless.") and Ben Schwartz was a great Sonic. Right up there with Roger Craig Smith!

Wasn't really expecting them showing Sonic suffer from bouts of loneliness and I was definitely not expecting him choosing to stay on Earth. Getting spoiled about Tails' presence made me assume Sonic would resolve to return to his home to save Longclaw after coming to terms with how he should stop running away from his problems, but no, he resolves to stay and Tails arrives on Earth to find him. I suspect this might be incentive for the sequel. Plus, I bet Sonic will love having Tails to cure any bouts of loneliness.

Personal gripe, I always got grouchy about the posters eschewing Ben Schwartz's name when he's voicing the titular character, so seeing him get top billing in the movie's credits put me at ease. (Though I couldn't find who voiced Tails, even if having Colleen might have been a one-time thing?)

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Feb 23rd 2020 at 6:15:43 AM

I just got back from seeing the movie. I really liked it. I might have actually liked it more than Detective Pikachu. Ryan Reynolds is better than Sonic in this movie, but just about every other cast member is better here. I was surprised at how much I liked the humans in this. I could almost watch a movie that's just about these people even without Sonic.

I wasn't a massive fan of the climax, but for the most part, I really didn't have many problems with the movie. Longclaw was adorable. Robotnik was great. Sonic is balanced enough to be annoying to the other characters but not to the audience. I thought his loneliness was pretty well portrayed. The film isn't outrageously funny but it's charming, and the cast is likable enough to make subpar jokes sound natural.

Sonic's speed is inconsistent, but I feel like when a speedster is depicted as fast enough to do visually cool things with their speed, they became almost impossible to write proper challenges for without fudging their abilities. Super Speed is one of the most broken super powers of them all, in my opinion. So I can't really hold that against the film.

Edited by GNinja on Feb 23rd 2020 at 2:16:11 PM

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Feb 23rd 2020 at 6:32:57 AM

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I honestly didn't find it that odd that Sonic decided to stay on Earth since he became good friends with Tom. However, I was surprised that the movie didn't touch on Sonic possibly wanting to go back to his home world at some point. I guess now that Tails is introduced, this plot point about Sonic wanting to go back to his home world might be resolved a bit in the sequel.

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