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Mario1995 from Atlanta Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Feb 21st 2020 at 10:09:01 AM

[up][up][up][up]Technically the movie incarnation of Robotnik is already established to be a vile, depraved individual utterly devoid of any empathy (much worse than the game incarnation and only slightly less vile than the Archie and SatAM versions), so you got nothing to lose from showing off his darker side.

The only thing is you gotta keep the series PG so you can't go too far with what he can do. He can do the horrific stuff off-screen and still have the same effect as on-screen.

Edited by Mario1995 on Feb 21st 2020 at 1:17:06 PM

"The devil's got all the good gear. What's God got? The Inspiral Carpets and nuns. Fuck that." - Liam Gallagher
Feb 21st 2020 at 10:22:45 AM

He did show a bit of concern when Sonic pushed Tom and Maddie off the building to save them.

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Mario1995 from Atlanta Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Feb 21st 2020 at 10:46:47 AM

[up]Subverted in that he just shrugged it off and went back to trying to destroy Sonic.

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Primis from Nsburg
Feb 21st 2020 at 10:54:34 AM

[up][up][up] You're exaggerating how bad Robotnik was in this movie. He's your typical Mad Scientist Saturday Morning Cartoon villain, he never tortured anyone or ever gave any indication that he was even willing to, let alone commit genocide. He doesn't even use Living Batteries or roboticization like his counterparts do.

Edited by Primis on Feb 21st 2020 at 11:57:15 AM

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Feb 21st 2020 at 10:57:20 AM

I don't think they plan to turn to Robotnik in a Complete Monster.

This version seems to be the classic character that has no redeeming qualities, but never has actions horrible enough to qualify.

Mario1995 from Atlanta Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Feb 21st 2020 at 11:11:54 AM

[up]In all honesty, I see him kinda in the same vein as Ivan Ooze in the original Power Rangers. Not quite into pure evil territory due to the silliness, but practically unlikable with no redeeming qualities (plus, the horrific things he may have done in the past are only implied, not shown).

There's a slight chance of him going CM territory, though.

Edited by Mario1995 on Feb 21st 2020 at 2:17:34 PM

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Zappy Zappy Lady
Feb 21st 2020 at 11:50:25 AM

Classic Robotnik still enslaved animals in metal robots. He can be twisted.

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Mario1995 from Atlanta Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Feb 21st 2020 at 12:01:25 PM

Speaking of villains in the film series, is it really a necessity to have Robotnik in all the movies? 'Cause Carrey doesn't come cheap and there are a pretty wide selection of villains Paramount can choose from.

I would pay to see Mephiles as the Big Bad of Sonic 3 (and voiced by Mark Hamill to boot, assuming no one else has better casting choices).

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Feb 21st 2020 at 12:03:42 PM

Mephiles probably won't happen for entirely separate reasons.

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Mario1995 from Atlanta Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Feb 21st 2020 at 12:07:22 PM

[up]It's either him or Infinite. Pick your poison.

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Primis from Nsburg
Feb 21st 2020 at 12:13:25 PM

[up] ...why, though? There's more than those two villains.

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Feb 21st 2020 at 12:14:11 PM

[up][up]So far, at least, Sega doesn’t seem to be doing everything they can to pretend Infinite doesn’t exist.

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Feb 21st 2020 at 12:15:14 PM

Think Metal Sonic will come next?

Feb 21st 2020 at 12:16:13 PM

The actor in the sequel is going to do to Zavok what Heath Ledger did to Joker!

And then, in a future unrelated cinematic universe, Zavok will get his own character study movie!

Edited by NoName999 on Feb 21st 2020 at 12:18:01 PM

Feb 21st 2020 at 12:17:17 PM

[up][up][up] IDW Sonic is banned from using Infinite.

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ShinyCottonCandy Resident CTR:NF Master from Wumpa Island Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
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Feb 21st 2020 at 12:19:53 PM

[up]I figured that’s because they want to pretend he’s dead until they pull a big “surprise” comeback, but I could be wrong about their motivation.

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Feb 21st 2020 at 12:23:13 PM

I don't think the film franchise that started off with a surprising success is a good place to start testing the waters with other villains.

Arguably the saving grace of the last 6 Sonic games was the re-use of Eggman. He's Sonic's archnemesis and deserves the spotlight. This isn't like the MCU where there's a crap ton of memorable, iconic villains that each deserve their own film.

At best I could see it like this:

  • Sonic 1: Robotnik
  • Sonic 2: Robotnik manipulates Knuckles into working for him
  • Sonic 3: Metal Sonic takes over, or Chaos rebels against Robotnik

Edited by Soble on Feb 21st 2020 at 12:24:37 PM

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Feb 21st 2020 at 12:26:53 PM

My guess is it's going to go:

  • This movie
  • Sonic & Knuckles w/ Eggman unveiling Metal Sonic as his secret weapon.
  • Chaos / Sonic Adventure, with the both the Eggman and echidnas' story creating something bigger/worse.

That's a strong progression from one thing to another, with Eggman as the primary villain guiding the first two while also changing setting and themes, and the echidna's history a primary driving factor of the latter who which leads strongly into a new antagonist in the final movie.

Edited by KnownUnknown on Feb 21st 2020 at 12:28:10 PM

"The difference between reality and fiction is that fiction has to make sense." - Tom Clancy, paraphrasing Mark Twain.
Mario1995 from Atlanta Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Feb 21st 2020 at 1:29:38 PM

[up]I dunno about a potential movie-only villain (if that's what you're implying here), but if he's not some mindless killing machine, I'm for it.

Edited by Mario1995 on Feb 21st 2020 at 4:41:38 AM

"The devil's got all the good gear. What's God got? The Inspiral Carpets and nuns. Fuck that." - Liam Gallagher
Mario1995 from Atlanta Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Feb 21st 2020 at 2:28:24 PM

BTW, Neal McDonough has hinted (perhaps semi-jokingly) that Dwayne Johnson's being considered for the sequel.

If it's for another human character then no thanks.

"The devil's got all the good gear. What's God got? The Inspiral Carpets and nuns. Fuck that." - Liam Gallagher
Feb 21st 2020 at 2:30:32 PM

He was offered a cameo in the existing movie, presumably as the President.

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Feb 21st 2020 at 5:18:47 PM

It would have been interesting if Dwayne Johnson had voiced Knuckles for the movie, although I'm not sure if Dwayne Johnson ever voiced a cartoon character before.

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Feb 21st 2020 at 5:42:17 PM

Oh yeah, I still need to watch Moana. Don't know if I want to see the beefed up version of Knuckles on the big screen.

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