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So apparently the self-demonstrating page I created for Charizard was deleted. I could somehow sense that the character articles were getting out of hand, but since nobody really had a problem with it I just decided to run with it.

However, this deletion hints that rules should be in place for self-demonstrating character pages, so does anyone have suggestions for what the rules should be?

I have a few:

  • Deadpool has one, no questions asked (even if everyone else's are deleted). Especially Charizard's.
  • The character must be able to speak English (or other intelligible languages), except for Rule of Funny (like with Groot's page). Charizard violated this rule. Kyoko's page is fine since she'd be speaking Japanese, for example, which is simply "translated" for reader convenience (largely based on the official subtitles).
  • There can be a forum thread where people can post their drafts and suggestions for character pages, similar to the Fanon Pokédex. In this case, new character pages can't be started without being reviewed in the thread. This is to avoid having the wiki oversaturated with pages for characters with boring personalities (like Shu Ouma) or ones with strange speech patterns that aren't for Rule of Funny purposes like Charizard. I can just imagine the chaos that would have ensued if other tropers had decided to follow my lead and create Pokémon Speak pages for about 30 other species of Pokémon.

Any thoughts?

Edited by GastonRabbit on Nov 4th 2024 at 11:22:35 AM

pizzastropes180 Charlie Disco from your wallet (Season 2) Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.
Charlie Disco
#1001: Oct 8th 2024 at 9:01:21 AM

i say if we get that maybe its time to give a sandbox folder their own page dawns already got hers so

"And for one night only...you can get your revenge."
DongwaChan (Apprentice)
#1002: Oct 8th 2024 at 2:29:03 PM

I personally like Bray Wyatt's and would like to see it come to reality.

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Charlie Disco
#1003: Oct 8th 2024 at 4:03:09 PM

honestly i think out of all the pages bray's got the best chances

that and the idea of him maybe being able to beat makima judging entirely by cameo that COULD work for a fun karmic death

"And for one night only...you can get your revenge."
AK47Productions Since: Feb, 2013
#1004: Oct 8th 2024 at 4:18:43 PM

[up]

Let me clarify the above, I didn't write that cameo to imply The Fiend could beat Makima. It was just mostly for kicks, a fun little cameo with a bit of mind screwyness that suppose to make you say "What the hell just happened?" more than anything.

I honestly ain't looking to step on anyone's toes at the end of the day.

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Charlie Disco
#1005: Oct 8th 2024 at 4:26:10 PM

aah that makes more sense dw :>

i'd say hank would be in second place for most likely, might need to check on roland and angela's folder i dunnno

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Dr. Jr.
#1006: Oct 8th 2024 at 10:04:50 PM

Anyone wanna start Gojo's entry? I'd happily add and contribute, it just kinda feels like I lost that "spark" that I had for the page, mainly because I'm focusing on Makima's Legion of Doom.

Also Scott Steiner should ABSOLUTELY join one of the villain teams, either Makima's or Hades'. And maybe give him a role in killing Barney on his page too.

BTW that Makima cameo vs. the Fiend was handled brilliantly. Especially with the lack of dialogue.

Edited by 2HeadedMoonOctopus on Oct 8th 2024 at 1:08:11 PM

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AK47Productions Since: Feb, 2013
#1007: Oct 8th 2024 at 10:15:10 PM

[up] I'm actually relieved that you liked how I handled it. Like I said earlier, I got no interest in stepping on anyone's toes and I had the scene in my head, but would've removed/heavily edited it if you asked. I can tell you got something in mind for everything and I'm more than open to just going with the flow. I always intended Wyatt to be a Plot-Irrelevant Villain anyways, no involvement with Makima beyond that cameo (unless you wanna do something then go for it).

I've been moving more towards Scott getting involved with Hades (possibly to the point of a potential Odd Friendship). There's Hades bringing him back to life for kicks and outright trying to get Hades' help to escape the Fun House somehow.

AlicornGaia Fishy from Mega Man Zero Earth Since: Sep, 2019 Relationship Status: Married to my murderer
Fishy
#1008: Oct 8th 2024 at 10:34:55 PM

It would be funny if we troped the story on this site.

Kinda hard to track where to start though.

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Dr. Jr.
#1009: Oct 8th 2024 at 11:04:22 PM

[up][up]Thanks, I honestly would if I knew a little more about pro wrestling. I also want to avoid making Makima into a Villain Sue who just overpowers everyone and everything and gets away with it. One idea I had is that Vader, while he respects Makima more than he respects Palpatine, ultimately doesn't want a master at all and might betray her at some point.

That said, I have no problem making Starwalker into a Parody Sue.

[up]Oh, it's already being troped on the index.

Edited by 2HeadedMoonOctopus on Oct 8th 2024 at 2:05:05 PM

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#1010: Oct 9th 2024 at 12:06:55 AM

[up] honestly i wanna see an anti-climax where the one who ultimately puts down makima is just starwalker staring at her really hard

if he can one-tap barney whats stopping him

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Dr. Jr.
#1011: Oct 9th 2024 at 6:56:04 AM

[up]All of the yes. I like the idea of Starwalker being the anti-Barney just because they're so damn weird.

Now, my idea was that Starwalker was a Man of Kryptonite specifically for Barney, but we've already seen hints of them having power over other things (like Cerberus) and they're extremely overpowered in A Different Snowgrave so I think something like that could work. I just don't think Makima should disintegrate/explode on the spot like Barney would (Cerberus didn't, after all). It'd probably be a Darkest Hour moment where Makima's Legion of Doom has conquered all the heroes and she's just about to rip Pochita from Denji's body once again, but then someone in Megatron's army that he completely forgot about pops up and betrays him to turn against both teams...

These villains are Pissing me off
I'm the original        Starwalker

Starwalker would probably cause Makima to die from an information overload in her brain similar to Gojo in the Death Battle video (something Gojo would try again if he gets a page, but fail because Makima knows what's coming). And then with Makima gone, all of the villains turn against each other and their entire power structure collapses.

Edited by 2HeadedMoonOctopus on Oct 9th 2024 at 10:07:47 AM

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Fishy
#1012: Oct 9th 2024 at 7:16:33 AM

Now if Sauron had a page won’t it be hilarious to find out Makima literally got him out of his job?

Like he’s all about absolute order… and then this Japanese chick made it so easy. Probably will lead the other villain team because he refuses to oneupped.

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Charlie Disco
#1013: Oct 9th 2024 at 8:00:30 AM

he'd be the MVP of the power structure if he did

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#1014: Oct 9th 2024 at 10:18:45 AM

holy darn I was not expecting the Self-Demonstrating pages to have this much lore, let alone Cerebus Syndrome

Edited by LoadsAndLoadsOfFreeTime on Oct 9th 2024 at 1:20:25 PM

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DongwaChan (Apprentice)
#1015: Oct 9th 2024 at 1:11:56 PM

[up][up][up] I've been working on the sandbox section for Hank Hill, and I randomly thought of the anti-climax "once and for all" defeat of Makima involving him somehow (and maybe James May as well), but that'd depend on if it were to become a page. And maybe Hank could get involved with Roz's super team too.

Edited by DongwaChan on Oct 9th 2024 at 4:28:14 AM

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Charlie Disco
#1016: Oct 9th 2024 at 1:36:38 PM

its perfect

makima dying via starwalker overloading her brain, hank beats her with a propane tank and james sinks in the killing blow with hades' Reasonably Priced Car he stole

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DongwaChan (Apprentice)
#1017: Oct 9th 2024 at 2:00:45 PM

[up] I was more thinking of Starwalker stunning her, then Hank and James running her over with Hank's pickup truck, and a bewildered James saying "Guess she's not coming on then."

Edited by DongwaChan on Oct 9th 2024 at 5:01:30 AM

commentspaee Since: May, 2023
#1018: Oct 9th 2024 at 2:02:18 PM

You have to kill Tomura Shigaraki and All For One alongside that because they'll take up the Evil Power Vacuum when another Big Bad disappears (as per the canon).

Edited by commentspaee on Oct 9th 2024 at 10:06:20 AM

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Charlie Disco
#1019: Oct 9th 2024 at 2:03:14 PM

send them to the library

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Dr. Jr.
#1021: Oct 9th 2024 at 4:08:35 PM

Nah, the way Makima works is that she's invincible to any damage and just offloads it onto a random Japanese citizen, which can only be prevented via killing her with an "act of love" (i.e. Denji eating her)

So it'd either have to be something like that, something with huge collateral damage like Gojo killing her in Death Battle, or something silly like with Starwalker.

[up][up]Halloween....

Edited by 2HeadedMoonOctopus on Oct 9th 2024 at 7:12:41 AM

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Charlie Disco
#1022: Oct 9th 2024 at 4:10:47 PM

ooo

i think if gojo gets a page, we put makimas defeat on there since its only poetic

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2HeadedMoonOctopus Dr. Jr. from Berlint, Ostania (Unitroper) Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
Dr. Jr.
#1023: Oct 9th 2024 at 4:31:10 PM

[up]YES, just as long as we have a way to protect or revive the people in Japan that she offloads the brain damage to (maybe Merged Hulk can do another Blip)

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Fishy
#1024: Oct 9th 2024 at 5:03:09 PM

Or watch as Frieza destroy the entire planet, which will definitely kill all of Japan and therefore negate Makima's healing factor.

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Dr. Jr.
#1025: Oct 9th 2024 at 5:47:40 PM

[up]At this point, she's probably made the same contract with various planets.

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