Self-Demonstrating Character Pages

It's been updated. Only issues is a few easy typos, and that it switches between present and past. And indexing? I haven't looked to see if there is a proper index for them, though?

And that's it for grammar/consistency. Otherwise, seems to fit the character pretty well, imo.

Edited by Irene on Oct 28th 2021 at 9:44:16 AM

SelfDemonstrating.Superman just created. Seems to be the usual.

SelfDemonstrating.Bob Hale is up since last July and, while looking promising, it haves no examples.

SelfDemonstrating.Naruto Uzumaki is a completely voiceless stub. Any objection to a quick cut?

Superman there seems entirely voiceless and I cannot fathom how it possibly could be fixed.

Bob Hale looks like it could be workable, but it's been a stub for half a year so... leaning towards a cut.

Edited by Larkmarn on Dec 2nd 2021 at 9:58:04 AM

to cutting all three.

I've cutlisted Naruto since it's the most obviously unworkable example.

Any further thoughts on SelfDemonstrating.Clone Force 99 or the other ones I mentioned?

So, I found a self-demonstrating page for Angela from Gargoyles. I'm not familiar with the show at all, but there doesn't appear to be much to the page at all.

Should it be cut?

Edited by chasemaddigan on Dec 14th 2021 at 5:49:42 AM

Yeah, that's just a page talking about the character in first-person. Snip away.

SelfDemonstrating.Sephiroth mostly feels like his character page but told in first person to me.
There's also a YMMV page for him for some reason? Like I appreciate the dedication, but that doesn't really seem necessary (or allowed).

I vaguely recall a mod ruling saying YMMV wasn't allowed for characters, but I don't have the exact link.

Hey, is Arthur from Fire Emblem Fates too obscure to have a Self-Demonstrating? Because, given his distinct traits, might be hilarious.

I don't think obscurity matters as much as voice.

Yeah, if the character has a distinct style of talking that would make the page distinctly feel like it's them talking, and not just a normal page in the first person, it could work. Conversely a super-popular character who doesn't have a distinct voice shouldn't get one.

Personally, I feel like it's more a case of tropers hearing the voices of those specific characters in their heads, you know, as if they're talking to them directly. I doubt you'll agree with this, but this is just the way I see it.

Hey, maybe I'm wrong here.

Can we go ahead and remove all the "read this in these streamers' voices" from SelfDemonstrating.Queen?

The same issue occurs with SelfDemonstrating.Spamton, can those be removed as well?

So both a King Shark and a Kangaroo Jack were just made by a new troper, and I'm already weary that both of these are not distinct enough for SD pages. It also doesn't help that it gives instructions in the description.

Both of them should be cut.

Just coming. Need to check on a few things:

• Any status on Aang?
• I feel like these peeps can get their own pages:
  • Iron Man (Seen most of the mcu for Robert's performance and I believe there's a lot of fans for his animated voice in Earth's Mightiest Heroes, Eric Loomis).
  • Mega Man X (Mark Gatha (the cool voice) and Ruth Marie Jarman (AKA girly voice :3))
  • Zero (Mega Man) (Johnny Yong Bosch)
  • Eobard Thawne AKA Reverse-Flash (C. Thomas Howell and Valentine Strokes)

Are they fine?

Aang is alright. I just removed it from the page so someone could finish his page. I'll remedy that.

Edited by Hotaru3 on Feb 3rd 2022 at 3:21:08 AM

Ryu was just cutlisted. Was there a discussion recently?

EDIT: Same for Batman.

Edited by bwburke94 on Feb 6th 2022 at 12:55:15 PM

No. Also, Superman was cut. We need to restore them.

This guy requested it: troper101

Edited by AlicornGaia on Feb 7th 2022 at 2:18:14 AM

Superman was cut a while ago, under the usual "character page in first person" rationale.

First of all, I'm not a guy. Second, I cut those pages because they're what this thread has already been cutting down on (character pages in first person without any distinct voice or personality beyond "I did this"). I apologize if it was out of line for me to cut without discussing first; I thought it would be more efficient to just get rid of more of the problem.

Superman, Batman, and Ryu are very standard protagonist characters, they don't have distinct voices that warrant pages. Frankly I don't think Lex Luthor warrants a self-demonstrating page either; his personality is just "pompous blowhard" and doesn't translate well to an entertaining read, but maybe that's just me.

That argument of no distinct voice is nonsensical. How when you have voices of Kyle Hebert (Ryu), George Newbern (Superman) (and then we might as well axe out Sephiroth’s page by your logic), and Kevin Conroy (Batman)?