A fan who ignores the death happened but doesn't make a work about it isn't going to trigger additional tropes. The fan who ignores the death and writes a fanfic about it is Shrodingers Cast.
Adding the exceptions in.
Link to TRS threads in project mode here.Nitpick: the word you want is "canonically".
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"Bumping. ~crazysamaritan, how are the changes coming along?
"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
forgot about this job. I made the changes to my post-proposal. I'll start changing the page since it looksa like we're only looking for grunt work now.
Washed the trope page, and added the canonical living and undead relationships to Boy Meets Ghoul. All that's left is wick check and Cross Wicking.
Link to TRS threads in project mode here.Boy Meets Ghoul is a terrible title. The page itself even admits it is inaccurate and was only done for the sake of making a pun. I'm totally behind just merging the pages and renaming the page Ghost Shipping, which is also a terrible title, just not as terrible a title.
What is with "shipping" while we're at it? Ghost Relationship or Ghost Dating is too understandable?
edited 16th Aug '14 2:36:30 PM by IndirectActiveTransport
Buldogue's lawyerWe don't rename things unless there's a demonstrable problem. Boy Meets Ghoul has 150 links and 220 inbounds. That's at least moderately healthy. Anyway, renaming that is a topic for a separate thread, but you'll need a better argument than "it's terrible". Systemic misuse, or some decent evidence that's its being underused, or something like that.
Speaking words of fandom: let it squee, let it squee.I think Boy Meets Ghoul is a perfectly good name. To me, it says "romance between a human and an undead", which is what the trope is.
Ghouls are not undead. They eat the dead and take the form they had when they were once living, which is a different trope entirely.
Buldogue's lawyerI beg to differ. (Clearly you've never played D&D related anything.)
You can differ, fine. The page itself states that the title is inaccurate and was only used for the sake of a pun. Its like Fur Against Fang admits it is wrong but we gotta have our added alliterative appeal.
At the same time I admit to not knowing anything of Ghouls beyond Arabic djinn and hadn't read any pages that told me otherwise. I had no idea ghouls are apparently everything but jinn in popular culture (I'm not surprised though). Seems we might have pages in conflict. I have a new one to read before I suggest how to get them in line.
Buldogue's lawyerJust looked this page over, and I noticed there are only 7 examples listed. There are a ton of wicks though, so I can go through them and see what can be added to the page, and what is actually Boy Meets Ghoul.
Okay, looking over wicks. Some obvious misuses are replaced with proper wicks. Will need to finish later. Got a question:
If it's a Roleplay/Dating sim-related work, would pairings go under Ghost Shipping or Boy Meets Ghoul? And if the work is a Fanfic, I assume it's the latter, right?
Edit: Okay, I tried to check all those examples for context, and managed to net a few. Example count is now a healthier number.
edited 25th Sep '15 1:05:56 PM by Berrenta
If all misuse for Boy Meets Ghoul in the examples and wicks has been corrected, I don't think so.
edited 10th Oct '15 7:00:22 AM by Morgenthaler
You've got roaming bands of armed, aggressive, tyrannical plumbers coming to your door, saying "Use our service, or else!"
Crown Description:
Ghost Shipping as currently presented is too similar to Boy Meets Ghoul, with many overlapping examples. Further, Ghost Shipping is being used for both In Universe relationships between living and dead/undead characters and fan Shipping of such relationships. As a note, The Lost Lenore covers the case of a character perpetually mourning the death of a loved one who is not coming back.

A fan could also simply ignore that the death happened. Like "Nope, that car crash never happened, *Fingers in ears* NOPE IT DIDN'T HAPPEN LALALALALALA!" or "She obviously jumped out of the car right before it went down the cliff."
We migth also need a line saying shipping set in the time before the death doesn't count. Like if the character dies in the second movie but the shipping is set between the two movies it's not an example.