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SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#1: May 9th 2014 at 10:09:08 AM

Well, I guess its not technically fantasy spin off since magic is really nanobots, but what have you.

Anyway, its been in Steam early access and its quite playable despite computer lacking good AI :)

There is now going on forum voting poll for community created Major Faction and I have participated in it as well so umm... Well, if you like my idea, I'd appreciate it.

Even if you don't like my idea, if you are interested in this game and planning to get it, this is a chance to influence what will be one of 8 factions in the game. Here is the poll.

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#2: May 9th 2014 at 10:11:32 AM

..what kind of game is it? "Fantasy" doesn't really explain the genre. RPG? RTS? Action Platformer?

SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#3: May 9th 2014 at 10:13:19 AM

Oh. Sorry. Its same genre as Endless Space, aka 4X. Turn based and stuff.

So, if Endless Space is basically Master Of Orion, Endless Legend is then Master Of Magic.

edited 9th May '14 10:17:11 AM by SpookyMask

onyhow Too much adorableness from Land of the headpats Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Squeeeeeeeeeeeee!
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#4: May 9th 2014 at 10:15:59 AM

Didn't you already play ES Clarste? It's still 4x...

edited 9th May '14 10:16:29 AM by onyhow

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#5: May 9th 2014 at 10:17:36 AM

Spin-off doesn't imply the same genre to me. For example Sword of the Stars made a roguelike spinoff.

SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#6: May 9th 2014 at 10:19:12 AM

There is that other spin off Dungeon of the Endless that is also in early access and is roguelike combined with tower defense... And prequel to Endless Legends since it shows the origin of Vaulters: They are descendants of survivors of prison ship that crashed on Auriga. Endless Legends also takes place before Endless Space.

^Well, what do you then call it when its basically same game but with different "genre"? Endless Space is scifi. Endless Legends is "fantasy". It obviously has major differences in gameplay due to not being set in place, but its not different series or prequel or anything. Its even called spinoff in the trope page hence why I used the term.

edited 9th May '14 10:20:34 AM by SpookyMask

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#7: May 9th 2014 at 10:24:32 AM

I don't think spinoff is inaccurate, just incomplete. I was hoping your initial post would have that information. You gave it when I asked so I don't mind. I was just responding to onyhow.

SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#8: May 9th 2014 at 10:26:22 AM

Okay, sorry for not including it in the title ^^; Should I ask mod for edit?

onyhow Too much adorableness from Land of the headpats Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Squeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Too much adorableness
#9: May 9th 2014 at 10:28:39 AM

EL is more of pre/sequel than spinoff anyhow...

^ Yeah, go for it.

edited 9th May '14 10:28:58 AM by onyhow

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Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#10: May 9th 2014 at 10:46:34 AM

I don't think it needs to be in the title. Just say "4x" somewhere in the first post.

SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#11: May 9th 2014 at 10:49:00 AM

Oh. Well, I already hollered, so um... Too late? ^_^;

Anyway, yeah, do we have trope pages for early access games? Just wondering since it appears neither of Endless Space spinoffs have its own page.

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#12: May 9th 2014 at 1:00:20 PM

I don't think there's any rule against it. They're basically in beta, and I've seen beta games with pages.

So, I decided to try this out since I recently got a gift card thing. It took me quite a while to realize that I had no idea what was going on. It looks deceptively similar to other games I've played (ie: Civilization V), but it's quite different. I think I'll start a new game so I don't drive all my cities to rebellion through constant growth. Unless you're supposed to do that? Obviously this only a problem because they haven't finished making the tutorial yet.

Also, how in the world do you level up town centers or districts? I got a quest to do that but I can't find out how.

SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#13: May 9th 2014 at 1:14:12 PM

I think approval mechanics works exactly like in Endless Space, so if you expand too fast(or maybe its just case of whether you have tech that lower expansion disapproval) then approval rating is really low.

From what I understood, you need to surround a district by four other districts.

Anyway, so umm, can you give me feedback on my competition entry? I'm wondering what I could have done better.

onyhow Too much adorableness from Land of the headpats Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Squeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Too much adorableness
#14: May 9th 2014 at 7:38:48 PM

Consider they're pages for KSP and Prison Architect, it's not against the rules...

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SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#15: May 14th 2014 at 9:33:42 AM

Okay, g2g vote for new faction has started..

edited 14th May '14 1:31:53 PM by SpookyMask

SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#16: May 27th 2014 at 10:11:49 AM

.....Okay, I have come to conclusion that Amplitude is really stupid company and they don't really listen their community. At least judging by how much effort they put into their community competition.

I understand that when there are 99 entries, there might be difficulties through checking them all.... But WHEN THERE IS FRICKING 14.... How the hell you manage to miss that one of 15 entries isn't an entry and is instead an reply to another person's entry?

Goddangit, Buzz's reply to me has more votes than my entry during first hours D: And my only vote came from me.

BTW, vote for Telum :P His ideas are awesomeness, I voted it as well.

edited 27th May '14 10:12:13 AM by SpookyMask

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#17: May 27th 2014 at 2:59:27 PM

Considering I still can't play Endless Space with manual battles I'm not surprised. I'm just hoping that they release an update for it soon that'll hopefully fix the problem.

SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#18: May 27th 2014 at 9:09:03 PM

Wait, that is a problem? .-. I like it that it doesn't have manual battles.

Though apparently the ES isn't really balanced game and a lot of people were put off by how Amplitude hasn't bothered to balance it. At least thats what people on some other forums are saying. Its kinda weird to see that different userbases have vastly different opinions

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#19: May 27th 2014 at 9:33:49 PM

No, I mean in Endless Space XD Sorry, should have specified.

I AM somewhat annoyed that the battles here aren't as cinematic as they are in ES though XD I admit that animating tons of guys all fighting each other would be challenging but still.

SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#20: May 27th 2014 at 10:36:41 PM

Huh? I was talking about Endless Space as well ._.;

I also agree it would be nice if battles were more cinematic in EL as well.

edited 27th May '14 10:37:09 PM by SpookyMask

theLibrarian Since: Jul, 2009
#21: May 27th 2014 at 11:02:30 PM

I mean "manual battles" as in the ones where you get to watch the ships go at it, instead of the auto battles where it just goes without the cinematic.

Clarste One Winged Egret Since: Jun, 2009 Relationship Status: Non-Canon
One Winged Egret
#22: May 27th 2014 at 11:07:50 PM

I just skip all the battles anyway. I don't begrudge their existence, but that sort of thing isn't why I play these games. EL is slightly annoying in that the AI is really stupid so if you don't control the battle directly you take way more losses than necessary.

onyhow Too much adorableness from Land of the headpats Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Squeeeeeeeeeeeee!
Too much adorableness
#23: May 27th 2014 at 11:14:43 PM

You do have much more controls in EL battles than in ES...I'll rather sacrifice cinematics for control...at least there's that. And AI in EL right now is just placeholder...so eh.

edited 27th May '14 11:17:36 PM by onyhow

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SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#24: May 28th 2014 at 12:14:21 AM

^^^Thats what I meant, I liked that type of "manual" combat <_<(BTW, you CAN switch the orders in middle of battle with manual. But yeah, otherwise cinematic unless you want to do last second rock paper scissors switches)

Journeyman Overlording the Underworld from On a throne in a vault overlooking the Wasteland Since: Nov, 2010
Overlording the Underworld
#25: Jun 24th 2014 at 9:51:14 AM

So what's everyone's favorite faction?

Right now, mine's the Broken Lords. I like playing the City State game where you build up a single city as high as you can. It's really fun. I built one city up until it takes 5,000 Dust just to get a population point, then I built a settler and made a coastal city in another province to pull in more dust. Just waiting to get Rookery tech so I can hire another Broken hero to get that city mass producing Dust as well. My income is around 500 a turn. A bit more, actually, but I forget the exact number.

And I have Tier 2 Titanium gear all around, as well as the Dust Priests, so I've got ranged capability. My armies can actually shred anything they run into right now. Which is way better than where we started, with losing at least one person against every battle.


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