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TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#5526: Aug 18th 2021 at 8:44:25 AM

He hated stuff that pretended to be anime I guess. Despite Code Lyoko not being pretend anime. It has a pretty unique and western look.

Wasn't he involved in the Miguzi block? Because I remember Code Lyoko was pretty prominent when that block was around, so his stance seems pretty ironic. (Also Totally Spies if that counts?)

I kinda thought maybe besides Code Lyoko's supposed animesque nature, that show was also pretty laissez-faire about teenaged fanservice. If I were in his shoes, I'd be pretty uncomfortable having a supposed TV-Y7 FV-level show have teens in varying degrees of undress. Japanese and French animation can probably get away with it because their countries are more chillaxed about it, but American TV, especially kids TV, is still pretty stingy about it.

I should stress that this is pure speculation on my end. For all we know, he could've had a problem with their foreheads.

In any case, wanting to bring back action cartoons for kids is still a great goal to have. Recent fun stuff like Justice League Action really got the short end of the stick that it almost feels criminal. (Here's hoping he can somehow bring that back from the dead.)

EDIT: Awkward pagetopper hoooooo!

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Aug 18th 2021 at 11:45:19 AM

DevilSketch36 Since: May, 2020
#5527: Aug 18th 2021 at 10:15:18 AM

Yeah, he ran Miguzi and Toonami. I guess he kept it since Lyoko was like #2 or #3 in 2005-2006.

Still don't know why the heck Lab Rat was skipped when it was the first episode where they went to the Replika. Wonder how many people knew about the last 6 episodes being posted on the website?

TargetmasterJoe from Velocitron Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: I like big bots and I can not lie
#5528: Aug 18th 2021 at 10:43:03 AM

Still don't know why the heck Lab Rat was skipped when it was the first episode where they went to the Replika. Wonder how many people knew about the last 6 episodes being posted on the website?

Sorry, I have zero idea what that's about...

DevilSketch36 Since: May, 2020
#5529: Aug 18th 2021 at 11:30:52 AM

Yeah 2007-2008 was a weird time for third party shows.

When Toonami and Miguzi shut down, Zatch Bell's dub wasn't even close to being finished, I think Mar got halfway there, the Prince of Tennis only got to episode 50, Lyoko's last 6 episodes and Lab Rats never aired on tv and were put on the CN website, and I think something similar happened with Juniper Lee.

As much as I love Cartoon Network pre 2014, those two years really had a lot of weird decisions behind them

ElSquibbonator Since: Oct, 2014
#5530: Aug 18th 2021 at 11:37:01 AM

See, this sort of thing is why I'm staying optimistic about the future of the network.

KouTheMad The Grey Sith from Korriban Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
The Grey Sith
#5531: Aug 19th 2021 at 12:25:00 AM

[up][up][up][up][up]Oh yeah, That. In retrospect I'm kinda shocked they got away airing those scenes in America uncensored, even more so that apparently no big deal was made of it.

Edited by KouTheMad on Aug 19th 2021 at 12:25:12 PM

Sanity is the Lie, there is only Madness.
ThriceCharming Since: Nov, 2013
#5532: Aug 19th 2021 at 10:50:08 PM

What has this DeMarco fellow said about Avatar and Code Lyoko? I'm not going to bash him or anything, I'm just curious. I really like both of those shows.

True story: I met my partner of ten years on a Code Lyoko forum thread in 2007, so if that hadn't aired here, my life would be radically different (read: worse).

Also, does anyone know if CN is going to fully rebrand when Cartoonito drops? Because I could sure use a new "era" of CN, something as unique as Powerhouse or City. Feels like we've been on a version of Check It for the better part of a decade...

ElSquibbonator Since: Oct, 2014
#5533: Aug 20th 2021 at 8:28:51 AM

Maybe his complaint is something along the lines of the "Taco Bell Effect" I mentioned in the Chatterbox thread, i.e. he thinks these shows imitate the general aesthetics and tropes of anime, but not the deeper cultural aspects.

Edited by ElSquibbonator on Aug 20th 2021 at 11:47:18 AM

Beatman1 Since: Feb, 2014 Relationship Status: Gone fishin'
#5534: Aug 20th 2021 at 8:48:54 AM

I found Demarco's quote on ATLA as part of a larger thread answering questions -

I do. I don’t like it because I think it’s kinda ugly. I generally don’t like works that aren’t quite anime but are made to look like it. Also one of the creators is trash. But I’m clearly in the minority.
.

The same thread mentions he also isn't a fan of BoJack Horseman.

XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#5535: Aug 20th 2021 at 8:59:07 AM

[up] This is also reaffirming comments on Avatar he made about a decade ago.

It's more than "not perfect," it's thoroughly mediocre. It was Nick's attempt at a home grown Naruto. I know this from Nick ppl.

Though I do find it interesting in his latest announcement post that he's "interested" in producing a few Animesque production in his new position (if it must come to it, I imagine).

Not too sure if this is him being diplomatic for his new position, or his opinion has soften within a year of that Q&A thread.

Edited by XMenMutant22 on Aug 20th 2021 at 4:58:49 AM

ElSquibbonator Since: Oct, 2014
#5536: Aug 20th 2021 at 1:57:48 PM

[up][up] Yep, that's the Taco Bell Effect in a nutshell. As I put it in the other thread:

Basically, the idea is that many anime fans outside of Japan watch these shows and movies not simply for their content but because of an inherent exotic quality they have. There's some merit to this, since by and large, a great deal of anime covers genres that simply don't exist in western animation. But every so often, you'll get western animated works that are deliberately inspired by anime, either in terms of art style, in terms of the tropes they use, or both. Yet anime fans typically reject these shows, often dismissing them as "not real anime.”

So why is this a bad thing? It means western animated works that are clearly inspired by anime have to face an uphill struggle for success, since they're competing for attention not only with other local animation, but with genuine anime. This, in turn, discourages major western animation studios from experimenting with such works and hence having the same variety of genres as anime does.

Edited by ElSquibbonator on Aug 20th 2021 at 5:09:43 AM

jessicadicicco610 Since: Oct, 2018 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#5537: Aug 23rd 2021 at 6:35:13 AM

Cartoon Network will be airing a week of Star Wars movies starting with Rogue One on Sunday September 5 at 6:00pm. Two things of note:

1. It's admittedly a bit weird to see a TV-14 rating on something from Cartoon Network that isn't airing during Adult Swim.

2. Speaking of Adult Swim, a lot of the Star Wars movies, even without commercials, are usually over 2 hours at least. Assuming they start at 6:00pm every night, these movies could eat up the 8:00 timeslot on Adult Swim.

https://mobile.twitter.com/CNschedules/status/1429792171448627205

Matchingbone from Somewhere between here and way over there. Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: I'd need a PowerPoint presentation
#5538: Aug 23rd 2021 at 7:17:29 AM

1. It's admittedly a bit weird to see a TV-14 rating on something from Cartoon Network that isn't airing during Adult Swim.

Yet they showed the first Percy Jackson movie on Cartoon Network with minor censoring.

jessicadicicco610 Since: Oct, 2018 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#5540: Aug 23rd 2021 at 7:38:01 AM

Action Flicks, during the late 2000s, was also a time where Cartoon Network aired some TV-14 animated movies too.

I think a few of the TV-14 movies aired have been edited down in the past away, but it's not consistent.

Excelsior123 Since: Dec, 2016 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#5541: Aug 23rd 2021 at 1:16:51 PM

Last year they aired the 2017 Wonder Woman to build hype for WW 84. And Turner has the broadcast rights to the Star Wars films, so why not milk it? Star Wars is popular with kids anyways.

Rogue One is 2 hours and 13 minutes long without commercials. It could potentially eat up the first hour of [adult swim] unless they heavily edit it, but I don't see an issue.

MagnusForce Nerdy Oddball from Canada (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
Nerdy Oddball
#5542: Aug 23rd 2021 at 5:23:00 PM

Personally, I’m more curious as to why they’re airing a week’s worth of Star Wars movies. Is there a big Star Wars thing coming up? Cause I remember up here in Canada that to hype up the premiere of the CGI Clone Wars cartoon, Teletoon aired Episodes 1-6 over 6 weeks every Saturday, even pushing back 1 hour of Teletoon at Night for the occasion.

"Detecting trace amounts of mental activity. Possibly a dead weasel or a cartoon viewer."
Excelsior123 Since: Dec, 2016 Relationship Status: Coming soon to theaters
#5543: Aug 24th 2021 at 4:28:10 AM

Well, there's that Star Wars Visions anime on Disney+

ElSquibbonator Since: Oct, 2014
#5544: Aug 24th 2021 at 9:56:53 AM

Why Star Wars, though? Doesn't that belong on Disney?

RacattackForce (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#5545: Aug 24th 2021 at 10:11:58 AM

[up] As stated previously, WarnerMedia has the broadcast rights to many of the films (how that's the case even with films made post-Disney buyout is beyond me, but there you go). So them trying to capitalize on the new Disney+ show by airing all of them makes sense.

Edited by RacattackForce on Aug 24th 2021 at 1:19:25 PM

XMenMutant22 The Feline Follies of Felix the Cat Since: Jan, 2012 Relationship Status: Hoping Senpai notices me
#5546: Aug 24th 2021 at 10:12:37 AM

[up]Plus, I recall that the "Redraw Your World" era would include family movie nights as well.

Cartoon Network will also launch weekend family movie nights featuring Gremlins, Happy Feet, The Lego Movie 2: The Second Part, Shazam!, Back to the Future and more.

Edited by XMenMutant22 on Aug 24th 2021 at 1:13:28 PM

ElSquibbonator Since: Oct, 2014
#5547: Aug 24th 2021 at 11:49:41 AM

Those, I can understand. It's just that Disney is notoriously protective of its IP and doesn't normally let other networks air its movies.

Edited by ElSquibbonator on Aug 24th 2021 at 2:55:24 PM

jessicadicicco610 Since: Oct, 2018 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
#5548: Aug 24th 2021 at 12:04:02 PM

I recall the 2011 Muppets movie and the live action Jungle Book having both aired on Cartoon Network a few years ago.

VuxovichZ Since: May, 2021
#5549: Aug 25th 2021 at 10:31:09 AM

The fandom of The Powerpuff Girls excludes the reboot from the franchise's continuity, but Cartoon Network excludes the anime instead. Will someone please tell me why? And why Powerpuff Girls Z only aired in the Mediterranean countries, as far as Europe is concerned?

Weirdguy149 Former King from Lumiose City Since: Jul, 2014 Relationship Status: I'd jump in front of a train for ya!
Former King
#5550: Aug 25th 2021 at 10:44:20 AM

Because Cartoon Network didn’t make the anime but did make the reboot. If the CW show comes out, I bet it would exclude that as well.

The legend has returned.

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