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kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#4451: Mar 5th 2019 at 7:24:55 AM

This is a pet peeve of mine. How come a studio never pursues one medium or genre anymore just because one film bombed? They know one film does not dictate every other one right??

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#4452: Mar 5th 2019 at 7:27:35 AM

Because they're smart,they know if it bombs once it could bomb again and cost them money

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#4453: Mar 5th 2019 at 7:37:45 AM

The bad part is that they never seem to give much thought on why it bombed. Or they come with bad conclusions. Or the rest of the competition do.

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#4454: Mar 5th 2019 at 7:54:43 AM

To my understanding, most (if not all) of their animated theatrical movies bombed, in big part, thanks to low advertising, to the point that most people were not even aware that these movies are even exist.

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#4455: Mar 5th 2019 at 8:16:24 AM

The other problem at the time, which they also probably factored into their decision to not make any more Cartoon Network Movies, is that at the time, most TV Show Movies were not making money; only the first 2 Rugrats Movies, the Wild Thornberries Movie and Spongebob Squarepants made good money, the rest of the Movies like Recess and Teachers Pet and Hey Arnold did pretty poorly, especially compared to those 4 movies. So CN probably saw that there wasn't a real trend, it was just a couple of successful movies that broke the mold, and then the PPG Movie failing probably solidified this position.

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#4456: Mar 5th 2019 at 9:29:20 AM

If you want to know why the PPG film didn't do very well, here's why - the WB kind of dropped the ball.

Outside of Cartoon Network, the film wasn't well promoted. A lot of theaters didn't show it after 7 p.m., so there went the family audience. And in a number of countries it went direct to video.

So it never really had a chance to be a success, sad to say.

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Andrei_Bondoc Since: Jan, 2019
#4457: Mar 5th 2019 at 10:14:24 AM

Actually, The Powerpuff Girls Movie flopped because it was crushed by Men in Black II, screwed by Warner Bros. and coming Too Soon after the 9/11 attacks (a year). Only The Brak Show of all things said to watch the movie on DVD.

And this is why Cartoon Network never made a theatrical movie (if you don't count Regular Show: The Movie's limited theatrical release and Teen Titans Go! To the Movies, although the latter was a Warner Bros. Animation production).

In an unrelated note, I really hate that every show since 2015 must run 11 minutes and be obligatory comedic.

Edited by Andrei_Bondoc on Mar 5th 2019 at 8:22:49 PM

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#4458: Mar 5th 2019 at 2:25:55 PM

From what I've read, TCM will not be under WB's Global Kids and Young Adults division. It'll be under WB, but not under that specific unit.

What I don't get is why Adult Swim is under that same division. AFAIK, Robot Chicken isn't even appropriate for young adults.

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#4459: Mar 6th 2019 at 9:27:29 AM

On cartoon films, I've always thought that only very popular cartoons deserve theatrical films. It's no wonder Hey Arnold, Recess, or Teacher's Pet bombed. They're popular but not popular enough for a theatrical film. The movies also weren't particularly good (or at minimum, they were good but only "direct-to-video/tv-movie" good).

There are few cartoons that can hold their own as theatrical films. Even MLP: FIM had issues (though, maybe if it had been made circa 2011-2013 it would have worked more).

kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#4460: Mar 6th 2019 at 9:40:21 AM

There was a Youtube video arguing why The Rugrats Movie killed the bronze age of great animated movies.

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#4461: Mar 6th 2019 at 2:05:29 PM

Did someone say "Rugrats ended 2D theatrical films"?

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#4462: Mar 6th 2019 at 2:41:31 PM

Sorry if I have to derail the whole thing but it appears the guy who is set to take more control over Cartoon Network is now at risk of losing his job.

Edited by Mario1995 on Mar 6th 2019 at 5:45:49 AM

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#4463: Mar 6th 2019 at 2:50:50 PM

The above video is bullshit in more ways than one. The death of 2D theatrical animated films was happening long before the boom of movies based on TV shows in 2001-02. By 2000 it arguably had one foot in the grave - Disney's 2D films of the early 2000s were all flops except for Lilo And Stitch.

Arguably movies based on TV shows helped the 2D animated film. Those are the only ones that get made anymore, after all.

Edited by Aldo930 on Mar 6th 2019 at 2:51:21 AM

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kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#4466: Mar 6th 2019 at 7:26:18 PM

[up][up][up][up][up]There we go.

[up][up][up][up]shhhhhh** sucks. And right when Warnermedia is absorbing Cartoon Network and Adult Swim.

Edited by kyun on Mar 6th 2019 at 7:27:28 AM

Overlord Since: Mar, 2013
#4467: Mar 6th 2019 at 8:17:00 PM

In other interesting news, Adult Swim will become a 24-hour network....in Canada:

https://screenrant.com/adult-swim-channel-canada/

kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#4468: Mar 7th 2019 at 8:00:10 AM

Goes along with the restructuring from Warnermedia.

TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#4469: Mar 7th 2019 at 2:09:36 PM

So what's going to happen to the plan to absorb CN Studios and other Turner brands into WarnerMedia now that this rotten revelation about the WB CEO has been brought into light?

Will it be aborted? Or will it keep happening, albeit with someone else in charge?

Edited by TargetmasterJoe on Mar 7th 2019 at 5:10:41 AM

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#4470: Mar 7th 2019 at 2:13:40 PM

It will keeping,just without him,keep in mind he can be replaced but this deal cost too much money for them stop now

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TargetmasterJoe Since: May, 2013
#4471: Mar 7th 2019 at 2:42:26 PM

[up] All right, so he's probably getting the boot, but it's not stopping the absorbing. Good to know.

Wonder who should take over...

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#4472: Mar 7th 2019 at 3:14:07 PM

[up] Maybe Barry Meyer (former Warner Bros. chairman) and/or Jeff Robinov (also a former Warner Bros. higher-up) can take over from Tsujinara.

Edited by Buzzinator on Mar 7th 2019 at 6:14:26 AM

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Overlord Since: Mar, 2013
#4473: Mar 7th 2019 at 3:23:36 PM

@ kyun, to be fair, it is a Canadian company, Corus that is creating this 24 hour adult swim channel, Canadian law prevents US companies from having too much direct access to the Canadian media landscape, so companies like Warner Bros have partner with a Canadian company to set up something like Cartoon Network Canada (which only started in 2012), but maybe Warner Bros is having Corus do this as a trial run for something similar in the US.

kyun Since: Dec, 2010
#4474: Mar 7th 2019 at 4:42:21 PM

This is too big a scope of a merger with too high a price tag for anyone to recall it now. It will go on without him.

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#4475: Mar 10th 2019 at 8:36:57 PM

Considering the merger, I figured this was now a good place to post this. Here's the article the video talks about. Doesn't really say much beside the fact that the movie's happening.

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