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Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#2701: Aug 15th 2017 at 5:05:45 PM

[up][up][up] Again, that's one that I think gets misinterpreted. Yes. He knows it's a cyborg. It's hyperbole breaking it down into the stupidest possible description to highlight how the villains have gotten worse. We went from Vader and Palpatine in the OT to "Totally Not Palpatine" and Maul (awesome!) then Dooku (okay, no silent double saber badass but Christopher Lee) to... Grievous (a flat character with all the shitty weakness of a fleshling like coughing and none of the "ability to use the force" of previous characters).

... and I like Grievous but I get it.

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#2702: Aug 15th 2017 at 5:07:54 PM

There are plenty of ways to call out how stupid Grievous is without missing obvious facts.

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Karxrida from Eureka, the Forbidden Land Since: May, 2012 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
#2703: Aug 15th 2017 at 5:19:14 PM

I actually really like the coughing robot joke. The problem is that he made several other jokes that indicate he legitimately thought Grievous was a droid.

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#2704: Aug 16th 2017 at 3:46:37 AM

Age of Ultron and Mad Max: Fury Road vids were just poorly watched, yes.

Also, while director of the Kong does have a good point, that chain of tweets kinda makes me him look a bit petty to me.

edited 16th Aug '17 3:48:03 AM by dRoy

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#2705: Aug 16th 2017 at 7:37:52 AM

[up][up] He was clearly lying, he knows that grevious is an android, he just decided that he could get a number of gags out of lying and saying he's a regular droid.

[up] Again it's not poor watching, it's a deliberate choice to pretend the movies are different from how they are for comedic effect.

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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#2706: Aug 16th 2017 at 7:45:12 AM

He was clearly lying, he knows that grevious is an android

ROFL. Did you do it on purpose?

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#2707: Aug 16th 2017 at 8:09:29 AM

Do what on purpose?

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Ghilz Perpetually Confused from Yeeted at Relativistic Velocities Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Barbecuing
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#2708: Aug 16th 2017 at 8:11:23 AM

Calling Grievous an android, when it's the same thing the thread is criticizing Jeremy for doing.

He's a cyborg. an android would be fully mechanical.

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#2709: Aug 16th 2017 at 8:29:27 AM

Right,probably a typo

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#2710: Aug 16th 2017 at 8:30:47 AM

Or awesome trolling. I can respect both.

Larkmarn Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Hello, I love you
#2711: Aug 16th 2017 at 8:44:09 AM

Christ, Age of Ultron. Now that one was just poorly watched.

"His shield magically comes back to him! What the hell? It's not like this wasn't explicitly shown earlier in the movie!"

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#2712: Aug 16th 2017 at 7:10:09 PM

A brain fart more than a typing error, I knew what I meant but got the wrong word. I'd love to claim trolling though. tongue

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SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#2713: Aug 17th 2017 at 12:35:50 AM

I just think its funny that successful Hollywood director got pissy about youtube channel tongue I mean seriously, thats really unprofessional [lol]

DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#2714: Aug 17th 2017 at 12:40:03 AM

[up] Thing is, the director isn't pissed about somebody taking the piss out of their work - what's annoying them is how bad Cinema Sins seems to be at doing that.

As somebody who gets annoyed every time Jeremy gets something so wrong you get the feeling he didn't actually watch the movie - I can fully sympathise.

And no, getting stuff deliberately wrong doesn't make it any better. That's just lazy, in my opinion.

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SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#2715: Aug 17th 2017 at 12:43:57 AM

You didn't get the point.

This isn't even about whether Cinema Sins is good or bad satire, its about someone who is successful in life getting angry about youtube channel tongue

DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#2716: Aug 17th 2017 at 12:48:06 AM

[up] And guess what? It's their damn right to be.

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SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#2717: Aug 17th 2017 at 1:01:57 AM

Nope. Well, depends on point of view about what you mean with getting angry about.

That is equivalent to if Nintendo would slam youtube reviewers publicly for bad reviews, rich person being angry about homeless guy crying about rich people being greedy, country of Sweden being angry about Finns making jokes about their neighborhood or whatever the current president of USA is doing regarding media tongue Like I said, its really unprofessional.

Sure, they can be angry in private, but doing this public is just disgraceful.

edited 17th Aug '17 1:07:34 AM by SpookyMask

DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#2718: Aug 17th 2017 at 1:14:34 AM

[up] Again, the director wasn't angry about the satire - he was angry about what he considered to be bad satire.

Which, again, I can fully sympathise with.

edited 17th Aug '17 1:14:47 AM by DrunkenNordmann

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SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#2719: Aug 17th 2017 at 1:20:45 AM

Doesn't matter~ It will come across to public as them being angry because they were criticized even if they claim "I'm not angry, I'm just saying its bad satire". Even if you are most altruistic rich person in the world, if you complain about poor people thinking rich people are evil it will come across as petty. As I said, its disgraceful.

Hell, counter criticism always come across as childish unless 1) you are on equal standing, 2) its a conversation between critic and artist, or 3) you are being defamed and you have to engage public relations to counter being defamed tongue Doesn't matter how "justified" you are in terms of how crappy the criticism was, in most cases the criticism can't threaten your livelihood.

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DrunkenNordmann from Exile Since: May, 2015
#2721: Aug 17th 2017 at 1:27:51 AM

[up][up] How can they come across as being angry about being criticised if Cinema Sins isn't even critique, but satire, though?

If the series was actually a critique, the director's reaction would be even more justified. tongue

edited 17th Aug '17 1:29:17 AM by DrunkenNordmann

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SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#2722: Aug 17th 2017 at 1:31:33 AM

You could argue Satire is just criticism that isn't supposed to be taken seriously tongue

So do you think things I compared that to are okay or that directors are somehow exempt from that list? ._.

DrDougsh Since: Jan, 2001
#2723: Aug 17th 2017 at 2:31:03 AM

I think a lot of satirists would take issue with the idea that they aren't to be taken seriously.

SpookyMask Since: Jan, 2011
#2724: Aug 17th 2017 at 3:53:47 AM

Well depends on nature of satire. Like is it just for comedy or is it supposed to somehow expose the real nature of reality and stuff tongue

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#2725: Aug 17th 2017 at 5:40:24 AM

[up][up][up][up][up] Basically, Jeremy sinned Kong: Skull Island pretty bad. Its director got pissed off and did a Twitter rant about how much Cinema Sins sucked at sinning the movie.

edited 17th Aug '17 5:40:47 AM by Weirdguy149

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