General Autism Discussion

KazuyaProta's teacher is so wrong !

A lot of people have serious anxiety issues due to working too much ! Mine have sprung up through a burn-out !

Grading for attitude is a big red no-no flag, that's the telltale sign of a hard-on for removing points. If those points matter more than merely for studying reasons (as, "having a grade-based grant"), it also means a hard-on for screwing up people badly.
Don't even try to explain things to him anymore as he's a big source of anxiety himself .

Also, he is abusively unfair for intentionally ignoring your efforts and not giving points to what you're good at. It's blatant misuse of your abilities.
He's also even more abusive because he dares to question your own anxiety issues, something only a psychiatrist can do, while he knows that you do self-harm, which is an evident and deep anxiety issue.

You aren't the reason you lost six points, he is. Talk with your counselor and your psychiatrist about it, and if it does not work, find an anti-abuse organization to help you, this cannot continue. He is making you fail and guilty of failure because he wants it, what no teacher should ever do, because guilt tripping is an abuse tactic.

Bringing back up the subject of Interests, I've grown to really like Franchise Dangan Ronpa as a franchise.

The Psycho-Pop/Psycho-Cool asthetics are pleasing to my senses, but not too blisteringly that I have to look away, but there also certain characters that I find to have traits of Autism Specturm, even if Kazutaka Kodaka didn't probably intend to.

Theres Chiaki Nanami and her Real life counterpart. She's the ultimate gamre, and an example of what I call the "Gentle" autistic. She's more quiet, and has to gather her thoughts together before she speaks, and she has very little understanding of many of the things that a japanese person would know of as common knowledge (Though with her first known incarnation, its somewhat made more clear that its because She's an A.I. as well, though her real life counterpart from the Dangan Ronpa 3 anime still has the gentle characteristics.) She's so obseesed with obscure games, it comes across as unusual to Hajime when you interact with her, and because she doesn't understand human interactions well, the only type of games she's not good at are Dating Sims. She also finds it hard to be around animals and other people, especially being in close proximity, due to finding that mammals have a warm feeling when touched (Due to mammals being warm blooded) as strange or weird.

In New Danganronpa V3, there's Miu Iruma, who's the Ultimate Inventor more obsssesed with Machines and an example of the "Asshole" Autistic, the ones who's misunderstanding of social cues leads more towards aggression than the shyness of gentle autistics, in which she badmouths and acts extremely vulgar towards others, but can't really take the same in return. Her profile has her main like being Children's Television, which is a common trait amongst autistic teenagers and adults, and a lot of her inventions that become important later in he game have a cute cartoon mouse mascot on them.

Just from what one of my current special interests is right now.

Edited by Demongodofchaos2 on Dec 14th 2018 at 7:57:32 AM

I feel like there's insufficient spoiler markup there for anything involving those games, though I've never played them myself.

OK, so I really think I have Asperger Syndrome, but about two years ago I got tested for an Autism diagnosis and they said I didn't have Autism. I still have a lot of the symptoms, though. Is there any other disorder like Autism? I know I have ADHD and that has some similarities...

Its a spectrum, not a "either you have it or you dont" kind of thing. Its entirely possible to be on or near the borderline. And its also possible that you were misdiagnosed. You should get another opinion.

I was initially diagnosed with ADHD before finding out I had Asperger's (although at this point I'm pretty sure I have both). Apparently that's not uncommon, so it probably wouldn't hurt to get a second opinion as far as testing. My psychiatrist at the time refused to diagnose Asperger's, but everyone else I worked with afterward said I had it.

If I'm remembering right, there can be some overlap between the two as far as symptoms go, so that could be it too.

Lots of evidence is coming out that autism is part of a spectrum that shades from total "normalcy" (as everyone is different, whatever "normal" is, but you know what I mean) across "barely autistic" to "severely autistic" of the "rocks in place screaming due to mega-sensitive senses, and cannot interact with humans" variety.

Here's the evidence we have so far:

• Genes associated with autism have been found in the general population. However, autistics have more of such genes than the general population does. This indicates that each gene individually increases the chances of having autism, or the level of severity of its symptoms.
• Genes that are found both in autistics and people of high intelligence but not autism have been found. This indicates both that genes have more than one effect in the body (well, duh), and also that some of the genes behind autism are also some of the genes behind high intelligence.
• Likewise, genes associated with autism and intellectual disability have also been found. Many autistics themselves tend to have either very high or very low intelligence, interestingly.
• Genes associated with autism and other conditions such as schizophrenia and ADHD have been found. There is an increasing belief that autism is simply part of a general spectrum of mental disorder, and even "normalcy" is on a greater spectrum of brain types overall.
• Multiple studies were done that combined parents of autistics, allistic adults, and autistic adults, and did things ranging from observing their body movements with a high frame rate camera (to catch little stutters in the body movement, as autistics tend to have those), to asking questions about their past with things like difficulty with social interaction. These studies all found that non-autistics parents of autistics tend to have very mild forms of some autism symptoms, but not to a degree large enough to "count" as having autism.

All this adds up to the idea that very mild autism, or borderline having it but not quite "officially" having it, are a real thing.

Alleles, not genes. If I remember my biology, that is.

Isn't subclinical Autism and other related conditions often referred to as the "Broader Autism Phenotype".

Edited by megaeliz on Dec 17th 2018 at 2:38:13 PM

That term does exist, though I see it rarely used. But it does exist, and I think it's a useful term to have, since the evidence we have available at the moment points to the idea that the genes that cause autism each individually contribute to it little by little. Thus, with that being the case, it would make sense for there to be a sort of fuzzy line between "very mildly autistic" and "just odd but in ways specific to autism". A coworker told me that one of her relatives shows mild signs of autism, yet doesn't test for having it. And from how she described him (I forget the details, sorry), he sounded as if indeed doesn't truly "count" as having it, but comes a little close.

What may matter most of all, unfortunately, is whether other people treat the individual as "odd", with associated social isolation, which is inherently arbitrary and unpredictable.

Agreed.

Though difficulty really feeling a social connection is a genuine common problem in autism, there is a real argument to be made that in some ways, the real disability is mistreatment.

Prozac is helping me right now. I was taking pills those days and my attitude had improved, I'm feeling less anxious (which is still anxious, but now at maneageable levels rather than "Oh God help me, please, I'm going to explode!!!!!!!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH").

Now. I have a legit sure chance to aprove the matter with my uber strict teacher despite everything. I just have to stay calm for some hours more.

New Rule: any class that forces you to take prozac is a bad class.

Addendum: any teacher of any class that forces you to take Prozac to cope should be reported, investigated and sacked.

He didn't force me to do it. I'm taking it by myself due to being the only way to sucessfully control my anxiety

Pretty much

Edited by KazuyaProta on Dec 18th 2018 at 9:48:41 AM

Well, the teacher in question sounds awful, but to be fair a class being a source of pathological emotional distress is not necessarily the teacher's fault. It is possible for a class to cause considerable distress even if it has a good teacher-I know firsthand.

Though, obviously, having a terrible teacher massively increases the stress level caused by a class.

Edited by Protagonist506 on Dec 18th 2018 at 6:59:19 AM

And another issue came off with him due to him using a dumb as fuck "fairness" rule that basically amount to "is not my fault that your PC failed in middle of the class".

He loves to say that he could perfectly help me and others...but that he wouldn't do it because "fairness".

He himself admits that he's trying to cause as much stress as possible because "that's how the real world works"

Edited by KazuyaProta on Dec 18th 2018 at 10:12:33 AM

I'm really, really anxious. I really hate this type of Sink Or Swim style of teaching, I learn despite of it rather than because of it.

Do you have a way to take legal action?

Nah. This is Peru, we still believe that unless is physical or sexual, a teacher can do everything that he wants on their class.

It's an authoritarian approach to teaching. Used to be common in the US up until the 1980's or so. Just try to survive, pass the class, and dont take anything from him again.

The issue is, I don't know if I could survive. The teacher had mentioned a loophole where I didn't get a note and thus is practically a 0. Dropping my notes.

And I can't choose it. The rule is that a student had to approve everything. If I fail, I'll have to repeat his matter for another four months.

Today is the day that we're gonna coordinate how to deal with it. He have told me to relax, but is BS. I'm feeling that I'm wasting mt time and the fact that my other classmates (including ones that also lack that note, but are otherwise approved) don't give a fuck just make it worse.

I really don't wanna deal with him another four months. I really don't want to suffer again. I don't wanna see my efforts being pointless for some shitty bureacratic fail.

Edited by KazuyaProta on Dec 20th 2018 at 10:44:36 AM

I don't mean to be pedantic, but you keep using note, and that doesn't seem like the right word. I'm not sure what you actually mean.

Qualifications. I think?