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This thread is about Russia and any events, political or otherwise, that are or might be worth discussing.

Any news, links or posts pertaining to the situation involving Russia, Crimea and Ukraine must be put in the 'Crisis in Ukraine' thread.

Group of deputies wants Gorbachev investigated over Soviet break-up.

Above in the Guardian version.

Putin's war against Russia's last independent TV channel.

No discussion regarding nuclear war. As nuclear weapons are not being used by either side, nuclear war is off-topic.

Edited by MacronNotes on Feb 27th 2022 at 11:26:10 AM

Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
#16451: Nov 30th 2024 at 9:54:49 AM

If this were any other country, I could see this be the start of some kind of mass revolt, but the Russian population seems so apathetic that I don't think anything will stir them.

DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#16452: Nov 30th 2024 at 10:00:11 AM

The war hasn't had a direct effect on the daily lives of ordinary Russians, not yet.

That, by the way, is by design. The West decided to let Russia continue to export oil, just to prop up the economy.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
Smeagol17 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#16453: Nov 30th 2024 at 10:13:48 AM

[up][up][up] “Quick”, as in not requiring long work from the police or courts. Similar to how some fines or deportation are used, in a way.

Edited by Smeagol17 on Nov 30th 2024 at 9:20:19 PM

AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#16454: Dec 1st 2024 at 11:06:07 AM

ISW: A Russian insider source claimed that Russian law enforcement raids against nightclubs in Moscow, ostensibly conducted to enforce Russian censorship laws and the pseudo-state ideology are actually intended to replenish the populations of penal colonies for Russian force generation efforts.

Long story short: The raids aren't jail or front. They are jail and then front.

Russia is raiding those clubs exactly to have more cannon fodder for the war. Bullshit criminal charges designed to claim they aren't forcibly conscripting people, they are "just sending convicts" to the front.

Inter arma enim silent leges
Smeagol17 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#16455: Dec 1st 2024 at 11:11:04 AM

Afaik, there aren’t even ten people arrested in those raids so far.

DoubleOG (Apprentice)
#16456: Dec 1st 2024 at 1:14:07 PM

Not yielding promising results for them.

Ominae Since: Jul, 2010
#16457: Dec 8th 2024 at 5:17:11 AM

https://x.com/TheKimulation/status/1865473993790136389

New sat photo from today showing Tartus navy base mostly deserted.

Xopher001 Since: Jul, 2012
#16458: Dec 8th 2024 at 5:49:39 AM

Lol 😂 but seriously was the navy base actually abandoned or is it just a meme?

FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#16459: Dec 8th 2024 at 8:44:30 AM

A meme, for now. Seems both the Russians and Jolani are open to negotiating with one another. Whether it bears fruit or not is unknown.

AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#16460: Dec 8th 2024 at 9:38:07 AM

Tendar: The collapse of the Assad regime is for Russia a far worse catastrophe than most realize. It will take me many posts and you will see more and more like this coming the coming days and weeks. Here, I will show the implications on Africa.

Basically Syria was a hub for the Russians to bring out their plunder from the dictatorships they support and bring in support and their reinforcements (mostly Wagner mercenaries) for their African holds.

Losing it will severely hamper Russian power projection and reach in the Middle East and Africa.

Edited by AngelusNox on Dec 8th 2024 at 2:38:51 PM

Inter arma enim silent leges
Kaiseror Since: Jul, 2016
Smeagol17 (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#16462: Dec 8th 2024 at 10:27:04 AM

Well, I would say that there is not a big chance of keeping the bases, but on the other hand Russia can offer Jolani things even Turkey can’t (and the USA most likely won’t). On the third hand, he probably can’t be seen as soft on Russia before his position is secure. So, who knows…

Edited by Smeagol17 on Dec 8th 2024 at 9:36:41 PM

FFShinra Since: Jan, 2001
#16463: Dec 8th 2024 at 10:44:56 AM

Given that Jolani already reached out to Russia saying he has no beef with them or Iran (or any of the minority groups), I don't think he's in much danger of that. That doesn't mean the Russians get to keep their bases of course, but it does likely mean they will be allowed a clean withdrawal of equipment and personnel at the minimum.

And also, given how much the Republicans focus on Jolani being ex-AQ, I don't see the US really dealing with him in an official manner (unofficially though, maybe).

I'll be curious how Europe deals with him though. Of course that also depends on him remaining as chill as he is, which is likely but by no means a given.

But even if he is chill, it depends on the US not snatching defeat from the jaws of victory...which is a lot more likely than Jolani suddenly going full al-Baghdadi or something. Especially given that Israel just seized yet more Syrian territory, and the US is likely to cheerlead that.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#16464: Dec 9th 2024 at 1:31:03 AM

"The war hasn't had a direct effect on the daily lives of ordinary Russians, not yet. "

ordinary moscoviews that it, we see what happen when russia call mobilization of city, they rebel and have to scrap it, Putin pretty much leave the big city alone and people just sort of pretend the war dont exist. it minorities or hilarious enought, people from proxy republic who have suffer the most. nowdays Russia ide ais to up benefit in order to draw recruitment

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
Blueace Surrounded by weirdoes from The End Of the World Since: Dec, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Surrounded by weirdoes
#16465: Dec 9th 2024 at 2:41:37 AM

At this point, I feel like suggesting Ukraine blow up some energy plant or their oil just to make them feel the war, but that's spite talking.

Wake me up at your own risk.
RSunny Since: Mar, 2022
#16466: Dec 9th 2024 at 5:19:34 AM

[up][up]Pretty sure that there won't be another wave of mobilization in Russia. Government can simply keep increasing salaries and payments of soldiers. After all, nothing prevents Russia from giving away any amount of rubles, they can simply print the required sum. Sure, it will drive up devaluation tomorrow, but it will give cash today.

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#16467: Dec 9th 2024 at 10:56:08 AM

[up][up]zelenisky kinda said the same of why it want restriction to drop in part to "take the war to russia".

[up]Yeah, kremlim is dead scare of any social unrest after that mobilization wave so they pretty much keep making join the army atractive while using other cover method. it work in the sense that a) allow a contious wave of atacks(which have given more territory) and b) more russian just...got quiet and have allow Putin to go his merry way.

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#16468: Dec 9th 2024 at 5:41:17 PM

Latest Perun video estimates that Russia has a year to go before they exhaust their stores of infantry armored vehicles, self propelled artillery and shells.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
Ominae Since: Jul, 2010
#16469: Dec 14th 2024 at 5:38:39 AM

https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineWarVideoReport/comments/1hdpu3n/a_kindergarten_in_kemerovo_russia_celebrated_a/

In Kemerovo, Russia, a man dressed in Santa Claus (in a partisan costume) visited children and spoke to them about what the holiday was like "back in the day".

unknowing from somewhere.. Since: Mar, 2014
#16470: Dec 14th 2024 at 9:02:49 AM

[up][up]Asuming, of course ukraine dosent continue hit ammo depot will probably drop that number further and further

"My Name is Bolt, Bolt Crank and I dont care if you believe or not"
DeMarquis (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#16471: Dec 14th 2024 at 1:05:38 PM

Which he himself pointed out.

I'm done trying to sound smart. "Clear" is the new smart.
AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#16472: Dec 15th 2024 at 5:49:54 AM

A Russian «Volgoneft 212» tanker carrying fuel oil was torn in two by waves in the Kerch Strait.

Another tanker is also sinking, the video shows oil leaks.

Inter arma enim silent leges
Ominae Since: Jul, 2010
#16473: Dec 18th 2024 at 8:43:55 PM

https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cge9rv38x98o

Reports that the Russians arrested an Uzbek national for being the trigger man in setting the explosives off the scooter thath killed Lt. Gen. Kirilov.

Edited by Ominae on Dec 19th 2024 at 3:03:18 AM

Ominae Since: Jul, 2010
#16474: Dec 21st 2024 at 8:30:57 PM

Reports from social media that military recruitment offices are being targeted in Moscow and St. Petersburg.

AngelusNox Warder of the damned from The guard of the gates of oblivion Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Married to the job
Warder of the damned
#16475: Dec 23rd 2024 at 11:26:10 AM

Tendar: According to local media the oil refinery in Novoshakhtinsk has suspended all operations due to the heavy damage it sustained from the recent UAV strikes.

Before the strike the facility produced 15.000 tons of refined products on a daily base.

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