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This thread is about Russia and any events, political or otherwise, that are or might be worth discussing.

Any news, links or posts pertaining to the situation involving Russia, Crimea and Ukraine must be put in the 'Crisis in Ukraine' thread.

Group of deputies wants Gorbachev investigated over Soviet break-up.

Above in the Guardian version.

Putin's war against Russia's last independent TV channel.

No discussion regarding nuclear war. As nuclear weapons are not being used by either side, nuclear war is off-topic.

Edited by MacronNotes on Feb 27th 2022 at 11:26:10 AM

M84 Oh, bother. from Our little blue planet Since: Jun, 2010 Relationship Status: Chocolate!
Oh, bother.
#10926: Jan 20th 2021 at 7:37:53 PM

Some of them are even tasty, too.

That doesn't imply good things about the overall quality of shawarma available.

Disgusted, but not surprised
KnitTie Since: Mar, 2015
#10927: Jan 20th 2021 at 8:37:20 PM

[up]Most of the time it's a grease bomb done up by a guy who knows nothing about cooking shawarma. Think White Castle or Subway level. But if you find a joint run by an actual trained chef, or better yet, a guy from the Caucasus, it's heavenly. The gentrified hipster varieties are good too, and there's even a recent trend of making thinner shawarma that you can actually fit into your mouth, which is convenient as all hell.

Edit - here's a nice video about the history of shawarma in Russia: https://www.rbth.com/lifestyle/328210-everything-about-shawarma

Edited by KnitTie on Jan 20th 2021 at 8:45:05 AM

Zarastro Since: Sep, 2010
#10928: Jan 21st 2021 at 3:11:35 PM

Even in a Moscow jail, Alexei Navalny is dangerous to Putin

Navalny's team revealed that Putin owns a secret £1bn palace on the Black Sea.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/19/even-in-a-moscow-jail-alexei-navalny-is-dangerous-to-putin

No wonder Putin gave himself immunity after his presidency. The video in question has already 50m views.

FFShinra Beware the Crazy Man. from Ivalice, apparently Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Beware the Crazy Man.
#10929: Jan 21st 2021 at 4:14:46 PM

It seems Sputnik V has been approved for use in the EU.

Final Fantasy, Foreign Policy, and Bollywood. Helluva combo, that...
KnitTie Since: Mar, 2015
#10930: Jan 21st 2021 at 8:28:41 PM

[up]It's a pretty good vaccine, from what I've heard.

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
KnitTie Since: Mar, 2015
#10932: Jan 23rd 2021 at 1:59:05 PM

[up]That'd be unlikely. Navalny's got supporters in Saint-Petersburg and Moscow, primarily among the yuppie crowd, but nowhere else. This isn't like the Khabarovsk protests, where the guy arrested was legitimately popular.

FFShinra Beware the Crazy Man. from Ivalice, apparently Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Beware the Crazy Man.
#10933: Jan 23rd 2021 at 2:01:21 PM

I must once again remind people bowing to Navalny that whatever might be the case of his support and future inside Russia, that does not translate to Russian foreign affairs.

Final Fantasy, Foreign Policy, and Bollywood. Helluva combo, that...
DeMarquis Who Am I? from Hell, USA Since: Feb, 2010 Relationship Status: Buried in snow, waiting for spring
Who Am I?
#10934: Jan 23rd 2021 at 3:16:36 PM

Anyone have opinions about A Just Russia? They seem to be reasonably popular, but all I can get are vague descriptions of their party's orientation (some sort of socialists?).

"We learn from history that we do not learn from history."
Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#10935: Jan 23rd 2021 at 4:19:26 PM

[up][up][up] By all accounts Navalny is just the powder keg, though. The protests are far more anti-Putin than pro-Navalny, he's just being used as a galvanizing figure from what I saw, and while the main protests was in Moscow and St. Petersburg, there were protests in over 70 cities.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
KnitTie Since: Mar, 2015
#10936: Jan 23rd 2021 at 6:07:02 PM

[up]I don't think that those protests are or will be including anyone beyond the usual opposition-supporting progressive yuppie crowd that has protests every so often to no effect. Putin's popularity in Russia is at its usual levels and the general sentiment is not revolutionary. Even with the COVID rampaging around, the people aren't feeling like they want a new government.

[up][up]They are basically just social democrats with an emphasis on socialism over democracy. So, left populists. I'm not sure they are very popular, though.

Edited by KnitTie on Jan 23rd 2021 at 6:10:53 AM

Gaon Smoking Snake from Grim Up North Since: Jun, 2012 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
#10937: Jan 23rd 2021 at 10:27:13 PM

Protests cover over a 110 cities now, more than three thousand arrested, including Navalny's wife and lawyer. Foreign governments, including US in Biden's first official interaction with Russia diplomatically, condemn brutality

Speaking to Al Jazeera, Anna Matveeva, a researcher at King’s College London, underlined the importance of the wide geographic reach of Saturday’s protests.

“The police [are] brutal; there is nothing new about it,” Matveeva told Al Jazeera.

“But the fact that the geography of protests has spread all the way from Moscow to western Russia and also in northern states … we are seeing a consistent number of people coming out, knowing that they might be beaten, that they might be detained, that they will have criminal records, and notwithstanding that, people are [still] coming out”.

"All you Fascists bound to lose."
KnitTie Since: Mar, 2015
#10938: Jan 27th 2021 at 3:58:09 AM

Russian COVID daily infection rates are finally falling down consistently. Looks like we're past the second peak, likely due to the vaccines. Meanwhile, Iran approved Sputnik V.

Edited by KnitTie on Jan 27th 2021 at 3:59:45 AM

eagleoftheninth Keep Calm and Parry On from Cauldron Epsilon Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Keep Calm and Parry On
#10939: Jan 27th 2021 at 5:35:24 AM

Bad news: As the Ural river disappears, a crisis looms for Eurasia.

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The Ural river, which originates in Russia’s Ural Mountains and flows through modern-day Russia and Kazakhstan into the Caspian Sea, has been a life giver for centuries. It provided water to the medieval Silk Road city of Saray Maly and now is the primary water source for the 4.2 million people that live on its banks. However, the third longest river in Europe has been gradually depleting for decades due to a combination of harmful water management policies, local dependence on the river, industrial pollution and climate change.

Soviet and post-Soviet conservation efforts

The significance of the Ural basin to the Eurasian region’s vitality has been recognised for a long time. During the Soviet period, numerous measures were taken to protect the Ural river. Part of the Ural river from Barbastau to the Nord Caspian Sea had protected status; and in 1972 the USSR reduced water withdrawal for industrial needs in an attempt to reduce pollution. A few years later, in 1977, a permanent inter-republic committee was established which was dedicated to the conservation and appropriate use of natural resources in the Ural basin. Following the fall of the USSR, these issues were governed by two agreements between Kazakhstan and Russia reached in 1992 and 2010, and a Russian-Kazakh Committee for Appropriate Use and Conservation of the Ural Basin.

In more recent years, an agreement was signed on the preservation of the transboundary ecosystem between Russia and Kazakhstan in October 2016, providing for joint actions to improve the river’s ecosystem. This was followed by a Russian-Kazakh commission meeting for the first time in November 2018 to discuss the river, recognising the national and subregional importance of the basin. In July 2019 a Russian-Kazakh meeting of officials and environmentalists concluded by recommending the creation of a bilateral body to address ecological issues associated with the river. On October 28, 2020 the second meeting of the Russian-Kazakh Commission for the Preservation of the Ural Transboundary River System took place.

The number and pace of these meetings is not enough to address the urgency of the ongoing environmental crisis in the Ural river. In his correspondence with The Third Pole, Aleksandr Chibilyov, one of the foremost experts on the geography of the Ural region – highlighted his report of the October 2019 meeting, which mentions the lack of recognition by speakers when presented with joint institutional and economic conservation mechanisms recommendations. These were a result of a scientific seminar held in Uralsk in July 2019, which highlighted the opportunities for the 2021-2024 programme of Russian-Kazakh cooperation on the conservation of the Ural ecosystem.

A perfect storm

In the 1990s, scientists were already calculating that the sturgeon population – which has been around for 250 million years – had declined catastrophically. The situation has only deteriorated since then – in a 2017 special report on the Ural Basin, a Kazakh-Russian group of scientists attested to up to 20 billion tons of industrial waste in the Ural basin (these include the Ural’s tributaries, of which Sakmara is the largest, providing 80% of the Ural’s water after the construction of the Iriklinsky reservoir). Such statistics explain the death of 110 tons of fish in December 2018 at Atyrau, Kazakhstan’s largest oil-producing region. The oil industry along with hydroelectricity complexes built to provide energy for Russia’s industrial sector in the Orenburg and Chelyabinsk regions has had significant effects on the Ural.

The case of the depletion of sturgeon is particularly emblematic of the consequences of inadequate freshwater management. The research of Viktor Lagutov, an ecologist, environmental consultant, and founder of the Ural Basin project, highlights the importance of transboundary cooperation and integrated water management to prevent further deterioration. The economic, social and environmental components of sustainable developments are embodied in his research, and in the Ural basin project’s proposal for an international Ural sturgeon park. In an interview with The Third Pole, Lagutov underlined the vital importance of such a park, stating that there “are no alternatives” and further stated, “governance in Russia and Kazakhstan is clearly inadequate for sustainable development and the restoration of the Ural”, highlighting mismanagement, corruption and ignorance, as well as the ineffectiveness of the UN’s Commission on Sustainable Development (CSD).

The Ural basin currently has 13 large scale water reservoirs, each of which has a capacity of at least 10 million cubic metres. The construction of such reservoirs began during the Soviet period with the parallel construction of hydroelectric power stations. But today, many of the reservoirs built in the higher and middle parts of the basin are used inefficiently. Furthermore, the plethora of dams and hydroelectric stations has all but stopped river flow, causing the channel bed to overgrow with reeds and algae. In response to The Third Pole’s questions, Alexander Chibilyov pointed towards his comments that water usage and the need to fill reservoirs remain in spite of the natural cycles of high and low water years. That the water level of the Ural river is depleting is no surprise considering that half its tributaries’ water no longer reaches it.

The combination of these factors poses serious and immediate risks to the region’s inhabitants and beyond. In early autumn 2019, citizens of Uralsk in West Kazakhstan were left without drinking water, the water having become so shallow that water pumps no longer worked, necessitating dredging as a temporary solution to the problem. In his interview with The Third Pole, Lagutov argued that “only the threat of losing the river as a drinking source can somehow force people into searching for a solution”.

Understanding the urgency

Recent joint efforts by Russia and Kazakhstan show that the gravity of the ecological crisis in the Ural basin has been realised, but as of yet, no substantial action has been taken to address the pressing issues. The Ural and its tributaries are carriers of unique biological and landscape diversity, not to mention vital sources of water supply. Climate change is having a particularly strong effect on Kazakhstan, with temperatures already increasing by 1.37 degrees Celsius over the last 100 years and increasing desertification. Concrete action, such as awarding at least parts of the river special status, needs to be taken to reverse the already considerable ecological destruction that has been wrought on the basin, and to mitigate future damage for this endangered river.


Good news: US, Russia agree to extend 'New START' nuclear arms treaty.

    Article 
The Russian lower house of Parliament, the Duma, on Wednesday ratified a new START nuclear treaty with the US.

The United States and Russia had "agreed in principle" to extend the arms treaty by five years following a phone call between US President Joe Biden and Russian President Vladimir Putin Tuesday.

A Kremlin description of the call between the two leaders said they had both "expressed satisfaction" that diplomatic notes had been exchanged earlier Tuesday confirming that the treaty would be extended,

The extension doesn't require approval from lawmakers in the US.

Deadline approaching

The White House press secretary Jen Psaki said the two leaders agreed to have their teams "work urgently" to iron out the details of the extension before the treaty's expiration date, February 5.

*insert cutesy minimalist diagram on the US nuclear weapon modernisation program here*

The New START (Strategic Arms Reduction Treaty), was signed in 2010 by former US President Barack Obama and his Russian counterpart at the time, Dmitry Medvedev.

The treaty limits each party to 700 deployed intercontinental ballistic missiles (ICBMs) or deployed submarine-launched ballistic missiles (SLBMs), 1,550 nuclear warheads on deployed ICBMs and SLBMs, and 800 deployed and non-deployed ICBM launchers.

It also envisions a rigorous inspection regime to verify compliance.

The last nuclear arms control agreement

Biden had indicated during his presidential campaign that he favored extending the treaty, and Russia has long proposed its extension without any conditions or changes.

However, negotiations to extend the treaty were stalled by the administration of former US President Donald Trump, which insisted on tougher inspections for Russia and for China to be included, which Beijing refused.

During Trump's term, the US withdrew from a separate nuclear weapons control agreement with Russia, the Intermediate-Range Nuclear Forces (INF) treaty, making New START the last remaining nuclear weapons control treaty between Russia and the US.

Edited by eagleoftheninth on Jan 27th 2021 at 5:36:22 AM

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KnitTie Since: Mar, 2015
#10940: Feb 1st 2021 at 12:31:48 PM

Daily Covid infection rates tanking in Russia for a month and a half now with no new lockdowns. Looks like Kremlin's focus on vaccine development paid off.

eagleoftheninth Keep Calm and Parry On from Cauldron Epsilon Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
SeptimusHeap from Switzerland (Edited uphill both ways) Relationship Status: Mu
#10942: Feb 2nd 2021 at 5:54:15 AM

Yeah, it's the Chinese vaccine(s) that is raising questions about effectiveness and whether the Chinese authorities are lying about its data.

"For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for Nature cannot be fooled." - Richard Feynman
KnitTie Since: Mar, 2015
#10943: Feb 2nd 2021 at 1:10:54 PM

It's not usually that Russia manages to beat Europe in something, but I have to say, I'm glad we've managed to get the vaccine put into mass usage faster. Everyone I know in Russia has either gotten or booked the shot.

KnitTie Since: Mar, 2015
#10944: Feb 3rd 2021 at 3:50:21 AM

Meanwhile, Navalny got sent to prison for 2.5 years.

FFShinra Beware the Crazy Man. from Ivalice, apparently Since: Jan, 2001 Relationship Status: Too sexy for my shirt
Beware the Crazy Man.
#10945: Feb 3rd 2021 at 4:01:45 PM

Yourself included?

Final Fantasy, Foreign Policy, and Bollywood. Helluva combo, that...
KnitTie Since: Mar, 2015
#10946: Feb 4th 2021 at 10:57:47 AM

[up]I am in the Netherlands right now, sadly. So I cannot get the vaccine until the end of this year, apparently.

eagleoftheninth Keep Calm and Parry On from Cauldron Epsilon Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Keep Calm and Parry On
#10947: Feb 13th 2021 at 12:27:37 AM

Totally random, but this @piterville TikTok sent me off into a Google rabbit hole on the maximum chad that was Denis Davydov. Hussar, poet, founder of hussar poetry (gusarshchina) as a genre, led a guerrilla campaign behind Napoleon's lines, was friends with Walter Scott, and died at 54 from a stroke despite being a Russian writer in the 19th century.

Echoing hymn of my fellow passerine | Art blog (under construction)
KnitTie Since: Mar, 2015
#10948: Feb 13th 2021 at 4:15:55 AM

[up]And that stroke, people say, came not from his age or genetics, but rather from him drinking his weight in alcohol every week in-between abusing meat pies and cigars.

luisedgarf from Mexico Since: May, 2009 Relationship Status: I won't say I'm in love
#10949: Feb 13th 2021 at 12:28:05 PM

Yeah, it's the Chinese vaccine(s) that is raising questions about effectiveness and whether the Chinese authorities are lying about its data.

Which is particularly ironic, to say the least.

eagleoftheninth Keep Calm and Parry On from Cauldron Epsilon Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: With my statistically significant other
Keep Calm and Parry On
#10950: Feb 20th 2021 at 6:47:52 AM

Russia Reports First Cases of H5N8 Bird Flu in Humans.

    Article 
Russia said it found the world’s first cases of H5N8 avian influenza in humans though the virus isn’t yet spreading between people.

Authorities have sent information on the seven cases detected in workers at a poultry farm in southern Russia to the World Health Organization, Anna Popova, the country’s public-health chief, said in televised comments on Saturday.

“It is not transmitted from person to person. But only time will tell how soon future mutations will allow it to overcome this barrier,” she said. The discovery of this strain now “gives us all, the whole world, time to prepare for possible mutations and the possibility to react in a timely way and develop test systems and vaccines.”

The affected workers at the poultry farm, where an outbreak among birds was reported in December, had mild cases and have recovered, Popova said.

According to the WHO website, “Though human infections with A(H5) viruses are rare and generally occur in individuals exposed to sick or dead infected birds (or their environments), they can lead to severe illness or death in humans.” Six of 14 cases of H5N6 avian flu in humans reported since 2014 were fatal, the WHO said in a post dated Nov. 2016.

Also huh, TIL that Aquarium is still putting out new tracks.

Edited by eagleoftheninth on Feb 20th 2021 at 4:35:22 AM

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