Welcome to the Trope Pantheons thread! Please read the rules:
- When writing a profile, take note of the following:
- The very first thing any contributor should do before working on an idea or a profile is to propose and nominate the idea on the Trope Pantheons discussion thread
. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning, a paragraph of reasoning to justify taking a trope should be sufficient. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Attempting to work on ideas without a nomination and at least one net thumbs-up will not be accepted regardless of how much you have written already. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
- If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. For reworks in particular, nominate the idea as you would with new characters or profiles. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
- In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread
. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user, either in the Pantheon or the Sandbox sections.
- In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread
- If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters. Some real-life individuals, including content creators (fictional content created by them is still fair-game, but do not bring up the creators themselves in such cases), may be considered disqualified for profiles due to controversies that would make them concern the Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment. To determine where a current creator would be disqualified:
- Wait for at least a month after the latest significant update for a creator's controversy before any decision can be made. If a confirmation from the questioned creator (or associates) themselves occurs, then wait for a week.
- Immediate disqualification for either a guilty sentence in a significant court case against the creator, or evidence of consistently repeated, deliberate, and/or intentionally provocative hate speech and advocacy of dehumanizing perspectives, with lesser examples warranting caution instead.
- For creators with a clear persona of their character disclosed before any scandal, the persona can have a profile with no mentioning of their real-life information. Ambiguous existence of a persona would have to be discussed further hand for anything more decisive.
- For obvious reasons, gods cannot be followers, high priests, or heralds. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
- No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
- You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
- The very first thing any contributor should do before working on an idea or a profile is to propose and nominate the idea on the Trope Pantheons discussion thread
- When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
- When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
- You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread
in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
- For new and reworked deities, 3
means the profile will have a one-week waiting period.
- For new and reworked deities, 4
is a 3 day waiting period.
- 5
is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
- Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
- For new and reworked deities, 3
- For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions Expansion, the following rules apply:
- For new Treasures or Dominions, 3
is a 3 day waiting period.
- 4
is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
- For new Treasures or Dominions, 3
- Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be one flavor text.
- The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like to look like Character Shilling.
- Every troper new to the Pantheon is barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles, this means avoiding the usage of "
" or "
".
- Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
- Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for the deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
- Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
- On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others. After all, no one is responding to their idea.
- You can also adopt a profile or idea to work on from another contributor by messaging a request to them (preferably through private messages). Even if you get their permission, you still have to announce your adoption to the forum. Note that if the idea wasn't nominated in the first place you still have to properly nominate it.
- When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
- Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to note in a trope example that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, correct the situation by deleting the offending text. This goes for any non-Pantheon page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Pantheon.Good And Evil Colors.
- Do not bring things that would incite fights; hot topics and 'urgent' news are not pertinent to the Pantheon's mission. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight each other, so don't suggest things that go in that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
- To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
- Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.
- When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
- Please refer to Text Formatting Rules when writing a profile, since understanding how to make and edit site pages in general is a necessity for working on profiles or other Pantheon content. Additionally, if you are not experienced with English, refer to this forum page
, as proper English spelling and grammar is expected.
- All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also, be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
- The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
- A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
- If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in another House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity at most.
- For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part of their series' official soundtracks from the media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters' appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
- For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlight a character's behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute it to the original artist. Due to the website's dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website
is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too many bytes, it is suggestible to use this site
to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, run the compressed image through other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikis to look for better images, as even wikis for the series might not contain good official images.
- Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that make sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
- Please refer to Text Formatting Rules when writing a profile, since understanding how to make and edit site pages in general is a necessity for working on profiles or other Pantheon content. Additionally, if you are not experienced with English, refer to this forum page
- Pantheon Content:
- Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
- As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally an expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entirely from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
- Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well-advised not to abuse them. The only house where trope-less profiles are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
- For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
- Do not write in self-promotion or blatant advertising. Minor references to something are fine but writing that clearly intends to advertise something will not be given toleration.
- Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
- For Profile Standards:
- Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place, or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
- Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
- A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
- Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending on if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
- On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
- Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
- A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
- Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
- Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
- A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
- Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.
- Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warper deities capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
- Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warper deities that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
- Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low-level Reality Warper beings capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
- Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
- Demigods: Badass Normal citizens of the pantheon, making up for their lower status with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
- Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.
- An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
- Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on the representation of power mentioned above.
- Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
- Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud
or YouTube
.
- Alignment: Good, evil, neutral, etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here; the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignments to characters that don't have an alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
- For Pokémon deities only:
- Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
- Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
- Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
- Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
- Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
- Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
- High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case the deity would be unavailable, incapacitated, dead, or otherwise incapable of carrying out their duties. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
- Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
- Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
- Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
- Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
- Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either from their perspective or yours.
- Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
- Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
- Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
- Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
- Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly oppose or are opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects", "On Good Terms With", and/or "Commonality Connection") in terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
- Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
- Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
- OPTIONAL NOTE FOR CHARACTER RELATIONSHIPS: Should the list for Character relationships (IE. Allies, Enemies, etc.) become too big, categorize a certain number of characters to a specific group putting them on a sublist (One example: Luigi is from the same world as his brother Mario, hence Luigi should be fall under the Super Mario Bros sublist.)
- Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part, the order is irrelevant:
- The Ascension Text: This is the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
- The Bio: A brief synopsis of the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
- Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
- And some more trivia/facts.
- And a couple more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.
- An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
- Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
- Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
- Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
- Domains: Things that the place has links to.
- Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as to where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
- Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
- Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
- And some more trivia/facts.
- And a couple more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.
- An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
- Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
- Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
- Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
- Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
- Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
- Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
- Domains: Things that the item has links to.
- Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as to where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
- Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
- Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
- And some more trivia/facts.
- And a couple more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.
Edited by Tabs on Jun 24th 2024 at 7:51:43 AM
The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps
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Thats the point. Two different outcomes of the same goal. One if trying to make unthinking paradise and the other wants hypnotized slaves.
Jesus, is Professor D the latter?
Wait, I reserved stuff in the last page.
Edited by M1gamiTensei on Dec 15th 2021 at 9:34:49 AM
Pantheon server for all who click here. Lost too much money and time, this coaster ain’t stopping.In regards to SMT, I would like to reserve Chihaya Mifune and Hifumi Togo.
For Chihaya's Symbol Motif Clothing, her dress has Wheels of Fortune all over it, and she happens to be a fortune teller who is a Not-So-Phony Psychic. Her arcana is the Fortune, and she can help you predict what you should say to other confidants as well as learn what benefits they give you without resorting to a strategy guide.
For Hifumi's Ambiguously Christian, she practices shogi at a church, is named after a catholic shogi player, and is wearing an accessory that can be interpreted as a cross due to how it's shaped.
Everyone look at my sandboxI’d say you’re jumping the gun on getting rid of them all, especially as there are still people who likely aren’t online yet to reserve. As
just did or missing the last pages reservations by
x3
I’d at least wait twelve hours to hopefully get enough responses from people.
Edited by OmegaRadiance on Dec 15th 2021 at 9:45:27 AM
Every accusation by the GOP is ALWAYS a confession.Um, I didn't say I wanted to reserve them. I just wanted to give my opinion on them; I'm not in the mood to actually rework any SMT deities
Now on to something less Japanese and much more American-who do you think would ideologically agree with Funny Valentine?
Funny Valentine, God of Weaponizing Letting The Selves Meet (The Twenty-Third President of the United States of Valentine)

- Note: Tune-up
- Greater God
- Symbol: His Stand, Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap, raveling itself in the American Flag.
- Theme Song: They Are All Those Of "Justice"
; alternatively, Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap
by AC/DC
- Alignment: Lawful Evil
- Stand(s): Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap (also known as “D4C” for short)
- Portfolio: One of the Most Formidable Adversaries In the Series Thus Far, Dimensional Hopping, President Evil of an Alternate History, Dignified and Honorable, Weaponizing Misfortune, Up the Real Rabbit Hole, Eagleland, and Teleportation, Ultimately Doing What He Thinks Is Necessary for the Betterment of His Country (debatably), Fat Bastard That Slims Down (not that he wasn't pretty before), Attempted Rape, Light Is Not Good, Moral Myopia, Destroys People By Having Them Meet Their Counterparts, Popular Despite His Villainy, Immortal Life Is Cheap, Continuing Is Painful, Contrasting Sequel Antagonist
- Domains: Strength, Glory, Alternate Universe, America, Justice
- Interests: Wiz and Boomstick
- Allies: Solidus Snake, Maximillian Caxton, Gabranth, Nikolai Bulygin, Sakazuki, YHVH, Regime Superman, The Enclave
- Partner: Wobbuffet
- Rivals: Steven Armstrong, Lex Luthor, Theodore Roosevelt, Griffith, Max Eisenhardt aka Magneto, Boudica
- Friendly Rivalry with: Enrico Pucci
- Enemies
- From his franchise: Johnny Joestar, Gyro Zeppeli and Diego Brando, Stephen and Lucy Steel, Dio Brando, Jonathan Joestar
- Fellow Americans: The ascended U.S Presidents, especially Frank Underwood (though he respects Abraham Lincoln), Steve Rogers/Captain America, Raiden, Booker DeWitt and Elizabeth, The Batman That Laughsnote , Clark Kent/Superman
- Other deities: Zamasu, any Nazi (especially Johann Schmidt/the Red Skull), Nikita Dragovich, the Ultranationalists (Vladimir Makarov, Khaled Al-Asad, Imran Zakhaev), Barbatos, the Global Occult Coalition, SCP-682, Damien Thorn, The Phantom Thieves of Heart
- Friendly Enemy: America
- Opposed by: Most non-American deities like Saxton Halenote , Lord Drakkon, Wanda Maximoff aka the Scarlet Witch
- Respects: Groups like Broforce, Charlie Company, Team America, deities like Iowa
- In the world of the Steel Ball Run timeline, Funny Valentine is the 23rd president of the United States...of Valentine. In many ways he's a true patriot, seeking to make America the shining pillar its founders envisioned. However the way he goes about it is questionable, at best. He wishes to use the Holy Corpse to make the U.S free of misfortune at the cost of it being deflected to the rest of the world, and believes any underhanded act, even Attempted Rape and using innocents as meat shields, is justified if it achieves this goal. When he died, he had a 91% approval rating.
- His Stand Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap (or D4C for short) has the ability to allow different parallel worlds/dimensions to co-exist at the same time and/or in the same place, and visit these parallel worlds/dimensions. Valentine can also pull other people to other dimensions by forcing them between two objects. If more than one iteration of a person or object exist in the same universe(save Valentine himself) as no two versions of the same person can co-exist in the same dimension, one of them will have to go back into their own. If not, and if they get too close to one another, both will crumble, splitting into Menger sponges before obliteration.
- Because of his Stand, he is considered easy to kill but harder to keep dead, since D4C can transport Valentine's consciousness to an alternate universe body if he suffers a mortal wound, then bring the fresh body back. It also has the nifty side effect of allowing him to simply just transport a private army of himselves to attack en mass. Despite the pantheon working with different rules, usage of his Stand allows him to inflict the Never the Selves Shall Meet to deities in the pantheon. Death Is Cheap, but it still hurts like hell, and he wouldn't be that much of a fit for the trope if he couldn't demonstrate it in the pantheon. This potentially makes him Fused Zamasu's kryptonite, but given he's physically half-Goku and what he became after losing his body Funny Valentine will only go after him to a last resort. The two have commented they're similar in the respect of seeing what they're doing as virtuous, but Zamasu still thinks he's a hopelessly flawed mortal and Valentine thinks Zamasu is insane.
- For the most part Funny Valentine refuses to use D4C on temporally displaced versions like different incarnations of the Doctor. The results could be a lot less devastating. And he's leaving well enough alone when dealing with more complicated scenarios like Philip J Fry and his paradox time duplicate Lars Fillmore. Despite these self-imposed limitations he remains an intimidating force within the Dimensional Areas, Clones and Counterparts halls. Lord Drakkon personally detests Funny Valentine due to his power, plus he can't even imagine how the other Funny Valentines are cool with being used as 1-Ups for their prime counterpart. Project Splinter's experience with paradoxes and a similar danger to Valentine's Stand when interacting with their counterparts they prefer to stay far away from him. The 23rd president isn't interested in starting a fight and he respects them for saving the world from a deadly virus.
- By taking advantage of the Saint Corpse's Stand manifesting in Lucy, he upgraded his to D4C: Love Train. It lets him redirect attacks away from him and cause misfortune elsewhere. It's this trick which led him and Wobbuffet to form a partnership because of having a similar power and also having the Shadow Tag ability. He offered Wobbuffet some snacks to earn his approval, and often take the Pokémon out for local trots and other enriching activities. One of these trots had Funny Valentine think about the Scarlet Witch's powers and how they could benefit him. Unsurprisingly, she wants nothing to do with it. He's also tried to reason with the Phantom Thieves to use their power to change America for the better, only for them to tell him he's full of it, especially since he's one to ignore physical consent. They've sworn to raid his Palace and force him to realize what he's doing is wrong, and they've actively compared him to Masayoshi Shido. That said, Valentine agrees with them that Shido's an utter bastard
- Because of Funny Valentine's power the SCP Foundation coaxed him into trying to help them terminate SCP-682, and 682 finds American life as disgusting as any other Valentine was immediately on the case. The result? 682 was forced to merge with an AU 682 and became a menger sponge...but the sponge refused to be destroyed and started assaulting Valentine. When Love Train was used the lizard stopped and went back into containment to not waste any more energy. Unfortunately for everyone when 682 emerged from the sponge the next day it had doubled in power, having fused with its counterpart. The GOC observed this test, noting the only good thing this accomplished was eliminating another universe's 682. Even before this incident they consider Valentine a dangerous anomaly due to his Stand and jingoistic attitude.
- Funny Valentine was only defeated thanks to the power of the Golden Spin transcending dimensions, making his swap with his counterparts pointless. Johnny and Gyro were absolutely livid to learn that he crawled his way out of the grave. Stephen and Lucy Steel were irate to hear this news (especially the latter since he tried to rape her), as was Diego, since he died believing he'd actually defeated him. Valentine can often be seen with a man with a similar appearance to that of Diego; In reality, it's his Alternate Universe counterpart, Diego, though he can still utilize The World. Some have interviewed him on how he feels about other Jojo character from the original continuity, which he's dubbed "The PB Universe".
- He's had an encounter with Dio, or rather a Dio that won and ascended to a new godly form. He refused to join with him and despite the bad blood he and Diego has he's shocked that his counterpart could be as evil as Dio. Dio laughed at this, and proceeded to mock him for his alleged utopia as he puts the United States' welfare above the rest of the planet. And he, Dio, is at least honest that he's evil. Johnny's counterpart Jonathan has decried what Funny is doing as evil, but Valentine actually has respect for his virtuous personality.
- Funny Valentine is on much better terms with Dio's best friend Pucci, as they have a lot in common; they both want to alter the world as we know it for the better. However there are clear differences: Pucci's goals are less selfish but more jaded. Though they bicker on how to achieve a better world and Pucci is solidly Dio's ally, they do enjoy talking with each other and discussion philosophy. It should also be noted that despite what some think Pucci's Made in Heaven didn't reset reality into the SBR universe.
- Valentine isn't fond of the other main Jojo villains; Diavolo is a self-absorbed paranoid gangster, Kars is an aloof Übermensch and Yoshikage Kira is a Serial Killer trying to sate his hand fetish. None of them care about him either, and it's probably for the best they keep it that way.
- Has found a rivalry with Armstrong; While they both want the best for America, Armstrong believes that it can relish from destruction, while Valentine believes in a more unified state. Despite their differences, they have a mutual respect for one another. Former president Lex Luthor also considers him a political rival, but doesn't hate him like Superman as he regards his Stand for showing the power humans have. Funny Valentine is well aware that he's more motivated by his ego and his claims of wanting to do the right thing are more a rationalization, but he can't deny the man's a genius. Funnily enough Funny Valentine gets along a lot more with the Regime version of his Arch-Enemy given their goals, even if they bicker on how to obtain it.
- Captain America has publicly declared Valentine one of his biggest enemies from the U.S, though not enough to avoid an Enemy Mine when it comes to legitimate enemies to the country like the Red Skull; an America uplifted at the expense of the world is a bastardization of the country he loves. The main Superman wholeheartedly agrees with this, citing Valentine as little better than Lex Luthor. Since both superheroes have to deal with a number of parallel selves D4C is more than just a nuisance for them, however the 23rd president would prefer to reason with them to join his cause. He's perfectly fine in using his Stand against parallel abominations like the Batman Who Laughs and his former master Barbatos. The prospect has the former laugh, and the latter pointed to countless new worlds in the Dark Multiverse where his victory led to a horrible cost. Most were Johnny's nightmares, but a few were his. Valentine simply refused to listen to them and left.
- In mainline reality the 23rd president was William Henry Harrison's grandson Benjamin, who served from 1889 to 1893. Besides Stands and Spin, it's unknown where the Point of Divergence for the SBR 'verse is. Funny Valentine did experience the Civil War so presumably Lincoln and maybe even Ulysses S Grant had their presidencies unchanged. The senior Harrison can't deny he's more charismatic than his grandson and admits he's had his questionable moments given his wars against the Native Americans, but Valentine is too jingoistic for his tastes. Some of Valentine's inner circle have joked the real reason W.H.H is mad at Funny Valentine is because he keeps showing up in search engines for the "23rd president" over his grandson.
- The ascended presidents take umbridge with what he's doing since they're in agreement his plan is terrible even if his desires are noble. Kennedy also thinks the United States Of Valentine is a dumb rename. Valentine actually likes a lot of the ascended presidents to a degree, especially Lincoln as he kept the country together and Theodore Roosevelt because he respects his force of personality and ambition in letting everyone to have a square deal. T.R admits Valentine's surprisingly principled, but what his plan entails for the rest of the world is definitely not a square deal. Still, the only ascended president Funny Valentine outright despises is Frank Underwood. Underwood completely lacks principles, sees the presidency as a means for personal enrichment and lacks any empathy for the country or anyone else. All of this is true and then some, but many agreed with Frank in his assessment that what Funny Valentine is doing is severely misguided. When Valentine was later approached by an interviewer about how he felt about Richard Nixon's head, he was a lot more flippant by saying "I don't take him seriously; he's too busy playing the Cartoonish Supervillainy game for me to take his evil seriously".
- For the most part he and the Enclave get along, but for all of Valentine's flaws he is not racistnote and how the Enclave treats mutants has him furrow his brow in shame. However he does believe they are a necessary evil to achieve his goals and wants them to embrace their Anti-Villain aspects more. Funny Valentine holds a more legitimate admiration for the likes of Broforce, Charlie Company and Team America. He's also given his thumb up to Iowa. Even if they aren't comfortable with the extent of his ambition to improve the U.S, he respects them for proving the heroic spirit of the U.S.
- Had a run in with Elizabeth and gave her an offer to help her with her powers as it was similar to Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap. It resulted in a fight when he noticed Booker and called him "Comstock"; Since then they have avoided each other though Valentine claims that the offer still stands when Elizabeth needs it, though Elizabeth was surprised that any version of Funny Valentine she ever encountered was always the same man no matter what universe he came from, all offering the same thing. Valentine took that as a compliment since to him it's a sign his "virtue" is an inherent part of his being across The Multiverse. Raiden considers this a deeply worrying constant as he sees Valentine as idealistically crazy as Armstrong. Solidus Snake commented otherwise as he believes this constant of Funny Valentine will help him uphold American virtue across the multiverse.
- He decided that in order to obtain the Holy Corpse Parts and help bring absolute power to America, he needed to help the Regime under YHVH. Given the Holy Corpse's identity as Jesus, he may have sensed a similarly holy energy coming from YHVH. Funny Valentine can certainly see how the GUAL's methods match his own, though he admits he isn't there to stamp out The Evils of Free Will. With their help he aided in getting Gabranth to the House of Justice, since he feels he found a kindred spirit in him and wishes to have Gabranth work with him to help Valentine's America. Also, he's often seen trying to help Caxton out on his mental well being and trying to make him another ally in trying to bring glory to America. Admiral Akainu made a fast ally out of Funny Valentine due to his views of justice and dedication beyond empathy.
- He's glad the GUAL part of the Trope Pantheon as he sure as hell wasn't going to work with the GUAE. He does admit one of their Horsemen, Griffith, is similar to him in that they want a great, shining empire even if it means devastating the outside world. Of course, the differences are clear: what Griffith is doing is entirely self-serving and any goodness of Falconia represents his vanity and greed...assuming he doesn't have something darker in mind for the citizens. Melkor sent Damien Thorn to watch this, as the latter is interested in obtaining the Holy Corpse to prevent the Second Coming by taking his adversary's body hostage. Naturally Valentine does not want The Antichrist to get his grubby mitts on his Resurrection's flesh.
- Funny Valentine has a "taking the first napkin" approach, which is why many non-American deities cast doubt on his Well-Intentioned Extremist status even if all evidence shows he believes what he's doing is what a noble patriot should do. The Ultranationalists certainly recognize that approach and they consider the 23rd president a proper opponent against their goals. He doesn't feel much outside of contempt for them as even for him their methods are questionable. Nikita Dragovich really doesn't want Valentine to succeed as he's sick of the U.S already being a superpower, and he's not interested in hearing a speech from the man. Magneto was more willing to discuss ideology with Funny Valentine, since he has a similar mindset to him regarding his own people.
- Wiz and Boomstick were very interested in Funny Valentine's powers and ability to access the multiverse, and are considering starring him in a Death Battle one day. Valentine would advise by then, they have a worthy Action Politician for him to fight against. Saxton Hale insists he should be that opponent since Funny Valentine's victory would have put America above the rest of the world, so he'll be there to represent the wrath of Australia. While Funny Valentine likes his spirit and will, he doubts even as someone as badass as him can really hold up to his Stand.
- They later asked if he was a Democrat or Republican. Funny Valentine rolled his eyes at this and said "who cares, political parties are bullshit". Much as George Washington doesn't like Valentine, that made him smirk for once. Later pressing on his politics revealed there were Funny Valentines in the multiverse that were Democrat, Republican and even Populist Party members who shared the same personality and belief system.
- With how passionate he is for the United States in both good and bad ways, it was a little bit surprising that he only recently learned that the country had a personification in the Trope Pantheon. That America has a big hero complex so Funny Valentine thought he could easily courtnote him. However America thinks his heroism should be used for the rest of the world and not just himself, and has criticized Funny Valentine for thinking the world should be thrown under the bus if it makes America great. Being the embodiment of the country he loves Valentine briefly went silent unsure what to do, before composing himself and swearing to one day convince America of the righteousness of his cause. When they aren't arguing over ideology, the two love watching baseball.
Edited by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 on Dec 16th 2021 at 4:47:57 AM
@OmegaRadiance: I believe Bale already has intentions to set a long-enough timeframe. Today is Thursday in my country, so I believe setting a deadline for Sunday is best, just to make sure the entire workday cycle is covered and everyone here with fulltime jobs has at least one offday to reserve, if they want to.
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I dont think anybody who has similar nationalist goals would be friends with Valentine If they know he’ll try screwing over their countries in the end unless they join America. I would think Dukat from Star Trek would be a messed up counterpart to valentine since he wanted his planet to be so superior, he was the guy who basically let Cardassians join the Dominion. Then he went psycho mode and used what are the devil to destroy the universe.
To reiterate what I want to save in SMT, its The Divine Powers, Nanash and Dagda, the White guys, Mara whose dick jokes I like. Theyll keep their same tropes with the same reasoning behind it. I am sure doesnt count as extra proposals unlike the ones below. Mother Goddesses Members , Deities of Motherly Villain Names (Feel like Mem Aleph’s trope can encompass all of her progeny too. They are mother goddesses in mythology. They think being mothers they can eliminate all of Earth. Doesnt get badder than that.)
Philemon and Nyarlathotep, Personifications of Cosmic Conflicting Plans (Philemon and Nyarlathotep basically bet humanity if they will go with good or evil in a bet. Lots of different things happened, and both started making the biggest plans just to have the other lose. Persona users in 1 and 2 were basically their pawns, and the rest of those games are about making sure one side won)
Yaldabaoth and EMMA, Personifications of Villainous Order (Yes, Yaldy is a YHVH clone who thinks humans dont want to think anymore and thinks that living in the same miserable world is paradise. It isnt until you notice. EMMA has similar thought and is an unoriginal clone of Yaldy. But she’s SIRI, so she’s programmed to make sure humans dont make choices for themselves. One is society, one is technology. Persona is so deep guys)
Edited by M1gamiTensei on Dec 15th 2021 at 10:02:12 AM
Pantheon server for all who click here. Lost too much money and time, this coaster ain’t stopping.Honestly, I am not quite sure if I want to quit quit. Mainly as there are few things I would like to talk about in regards to existing gods in the near future. That being said, I might have to get myself to have a clean-slate start on things. I want to work on Heart Aino and future Strike Witches reworks, but otherwise I might have to scrap all of the things I have been trying to work out but haven't. What will happen to them? The hell I know. They are technically open for adoption, but I have stated many times that it feels like my interests rarely line up with everyone else.
Only sometimes postsSo I cleaned up the bottom of the barrel profiles and then some. Will continue purging later tomorrow, just in case someone happens to want to reserve something else.
Tropes fully cleared for the time being as of the writing of this post:
- Gag Penis
- Multiboobage
- Alignment-Based Endings
- Omnicidal Neutral
- Unconventional Alignment
- Kill It with Ice
- Brainwashing for the Greater Good
- Despair Gambit
- Humans Are Special
- Rousseau Was Right
- Humans Are the Real Monsters
- Stalked by the Bell
- Chest Monster
- Amnesiac God
- Divine Date
- Loners Are Freaks
- Ignorance Is Bliss
That's all for today on my end, see you all tomorrow
Edited by VengefulBale on Dec 15th 2021 at 12:01:24 PM
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Bruh, I saved stuff on this list since last page.
Edited by M1gamiTensei on Dec 15th 2021 at 10:08:42 AM
Pantheon server for all who click here. Lost too much money and time, this coaster ain’t stopping.Here's the thing about reworks: it's not just about wanting to keep something in the Pantheon; it's about making sure there is a strong reason why that rework deserves a particular trope in addition to writing sufficiently detailed profiles should the reasoning be accepted.
In any case,
for 227's suggestions. Not only has 227 not been that good of a Pantheon writer in terms of profile quality to ensure good-quality reworks, but I feel like both Ambiguously Christian and Symbol Motif Clothing could have alternate suggestions from those willing to suggest such ideas.
Edited by r-lock256 on Dec 15th 2021 at 10:15:35 AM
@M1gami: Suggest the stuff you want later, like normal, assuming others can't find better ideas for the tropes. A purge is not a special occasion where the rule to formally suggest things is put on suspension.
I've always thought putting most Social Links in the Pantheon is a terrible idea.
Edited by wootzits on Dec 15th 2021 at 6:11:37 PM
The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps
No, its weird because some stuff I asked to save wasnt deleted but some were? Hope Bale wakes up or something later before I save profiles.
Pantheon server for all who click here. Lost too much money and time, this coaster ain’t stopping.@r-lock I see. Then I'll just have to do better with my writing. That, and concede the loss of those two.
Everyone look at my sandbox@Bale: Taking back SMTI!Kazuya and the Hitonaris from the History, then. You also forgot to mention Cutting Off the Branches being free. Too late.
Edited by nightelf37 on Dec 16th 2021 at 3:28:48 AM
TV Tropes Pantheon Group Members DatabaseAh, so it's that time for SMT.
A reminder that putting input for others' profiles is infinitely more helpful for the project than, say, only
ing the one or two users you find to be your absolute 100% favorite because they work on stuff you like and are familiar with or whatever. A writing workshop actually works through participation.
@ Crimson: Dana Zane was Former Teen Rebel when she hit puberty. She isn't fond of this period of time in her life, describing herself as a "the Merriam-Webster definition of a ‘shallow jerkwad’” before she wizened up. In the present, she's a Benevolent Boss to her employees and is just a kind person overall.
The Curtis Gang is a group of Greaser Delinquents. They're rivals with the Socs (or Socials), a gang of rich snobs.
The Corpus is an interstellar MegaCorp. While there are good eggs such as Darvo Bek, the Perrin Sequence, and the Mycona Colony, but overall the Corpus tend to be who, above all else, value profit and self-interest. Due to this (borderline cult-like) greed, their executives are not afraid to dirty their hands in the name of lining their pockets and these range from arms dealing, Ponzi schemes, seizing and exploiting technology, utilizing penal colonies, etc.
@ Bale: Enemies with Nom Anor since his species, the Yuuzhan Vong, have a very well-pronounced and documented hatred against technology due to being invaded by mechanical aliens in the past.
In Sonic the Hedgehog, there are many robot duplicates of other characters whose origins are usually attributed to Dr. Eggman. Of them, Metal Sonic is the most famous and was created to exceed his original counterpart and is obsessed with doing so.
@ RJ: Funny Valentine likely wouldn't be fond of 50 Blessings. While they're ultranationalist for the United States and their motive is to get the country back on its feet and shake of the Soviet Union's influence, their actions of leading a coup and assassinating the US and Russian presidents ended up kickstarting nuclear war between the two countries, with places like Hawaii and Miami being engulfed in atomic fire. And this was something 50 Blessings anticipated as they actually prepared a nuclear shelter beforehand.
Edited by CrownlessMimic on Dec 16th 2021 at 12:50:00 PM
Be awed. Or be awestruck. This is the difference between the ordinary and the extraordinary.I have an idea for Arc Number, but I'm not sure if I think it's the best. Is anyone interested in a choice for the trope?
Hi everyone. First, I must apologize for my Mothman idea. It was very low-quality, so sorry about that. Also, if it’s not too late, I’d like to reserve Jack Frost. He is pretty important to the series, but I feel the trope given to him doesn’t fit.
EDIT: Never mind, Frost’s dead. I think I should be more experienced before I start making profile reworks.
Edited by Yiptap on Dec 16th 2021 at 6:30:23 AM

Well, I guess that's about it. Cleanup starts now. Again here's the list for those interested:
Edited by VengefulBale on Dec 15th 2021 at 11:33:56 AM
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