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Welcome to the Trope Pantheons thread! Please read the rules:

    Rules 
Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:
  • When writing a profile, take note of the following:
    • The very first thing any contributor should do before working on an idea or a profile is to propose and nominate the idea on the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning, a paragraph of reasoning to justify taking a trope should be sufficient. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Attempting to work on ideas without a nomination and at least one net thumbs-up will not be accepted regardless of how much you have written already. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
    • If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. For reworks in particular, nominate the idea as you would with new characters or profiles. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
      • In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user, either in the Pantheon or the Sandbox sections.
    • If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters. Some real-life individuals, including content creators (fictional content created by them is still fair-game, but do not bring up the creators themselves in such cases), may be considered disqualified for profiles due to controversies that would make them concern the Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment. To determine where a current creator would be disqualified:
      • Wait for at least a month after the latest significant update for a creator's controversy before any decision can be made. If a confirmation from the questioned creator (or associates) themselves occurs, then wait for a week.
      • Immediate disqualification for either a guilty sentence in a significant court case against the creator, or evidence of consistently repeated, deliberate, and/or intentionally provocative hate speech and advocacy of dehumanizing perspectives, with lesser examples warranting caution instead.
      • For creators with a clear persona of their character disclosed before any scandal, the persona can have a profile with no mentioning of their real-life information. Ambiguous existence of a persona would have to be discussed further hand for anything more decisive.
    • For obvious reasons, gods cannot be followers, high priests, or heralds. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
    • No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
      • You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
  • When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
    • When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
    • You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
      • For new and reworked deities, 3 [tup] means the profile will have a one-week waiting period.
      • For new and reworked deities, 4 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 5 [tup] is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
      • Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
    • For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions Expansion, the following rules apply:
      • For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 4 [tup] is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
    • Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be one flavor text.
    • The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like to look like Character Shilling.
    • Every troper new to the Pantheon is barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles, this means avoiding the usage of "[tup]" or "[tdown]".
    • Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
    • Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for the deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
    • Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
      • On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others. After all, no one is responding to their idea.
    • You can also adopt a profile or idea to work on from another contributor by messaging a request to them (preferably through private messages). Even if you get their permission, you still have to announce your adoption to the forum. Note that if the idea wasn't nominated in the first place you still have to properly nominate it.
  • When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
    • Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to note in a trope example that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, correct the situation by deleting the offending text. This goes for any non-Pantheon page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Pantheon.Good And Evil Colors.
    • Do not bring things that would incite fights; hot topics and 'urgent' news are not pertinent to the Pantheon's mission. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight each other, so don't suggest things that go in that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
    • To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
    • Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.
    Instructions and Tips 
Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:
  • When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
    • Please refer to Text Formatting Rules when writing a profile, since understanding how to make and edit site pages in general is a necessity for working on profiles or other Pantheon content. Additionally, if you are not experienced with English, refer to this forum page, as proper English spelling and grammar is expected.
    • All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also, be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
    • The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
    • A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
    • If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in another House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity at most.
    • For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part of their series' official soundtracks from the media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters' appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
    • For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlight a character's behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute it to the original artist. Due to the website's dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too many bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, run the compressed image through other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikis to look for better images, as even wikis for the series might not contain good official images.
    • Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that make sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
  • Pantheon Content:
    • Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
      • As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally an expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entirely from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
    • Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well-advised not to abuse them. The only house where trope-less profiles are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
    • For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
    • Do not write in self-promotion or blatant advertising. Minor references to something are fine but writing that clearly intends to advertise something will not be given toleration.
  • For Profile Standards:
    • Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place, or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
    • Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
      • Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending on if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
      • On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
    • Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
      • Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
    • Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
      • Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.
    Divine Ranking System 
  • Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warper deities capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
  • Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warper deities that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
  • Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low-level Reality Warper beings capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
  • Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
  • Demigods: Badass Normal citizens of the pantheon, making up for their lower status with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
  • Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.
    Templates 
Template for adding a new deity: God X, God/Goddess/Deity of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)
  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on the representation of power mentioned above.
  • Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
  • Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
  • Alignment: Good, evil, neutral, etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here; the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignments to characters that don't have an alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
  • For Pokémon deities only:
    • Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
    • Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
    • Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
  • Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
  • Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
  • High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case the deity would be unavailable, incapacitated, dead, or otherwise incapable of carrying out their duties. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
  • Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
  • Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
    • Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.

    • Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
    • Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either from their perspective or yours.
    • Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
    • Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
    • Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
    • Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
    • Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly oppose or are opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects", "On Good Terms With", and/or "Commonality Connection") in terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
    • Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
    • Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
      • OPTIONAL NOTE FOR CHARACTER RELATIONSHIPS: Should the list for Character relationships (IE. Allies, Enemies, etc.) become too big, categorize a certain number of characters to a specific group putting them on a sublist (One example: Luigi is from the same world as his brother Mario, hence Luigi should be fall under the Super Mario Bros sublist.)
  • Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part, the order is irrelevant:
    • The Ascension Text: This is the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
    • The Bio: A brief synopsis of the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.
Template for Dominions profiles: Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)
  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
  • Domains: Things that the place has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as to where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.
Template for Treasure profiles: The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)
  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
  • Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
  • Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
  • Domains: Things that the item has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as to where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.

Edited by Tabs on Jun 24th 2024 at 7:51:43 AM

EmperorAI Emperor of all Machines and Artificial Lifeforms from The Cyber Space (Private) Relationship Status: Robosexual
Emperor of all Machines and Artificial Lifeforms
#218201: Jun 29th 2025 at 9:09:31 AM

@aa1205 [tup] for both

Edited by EmperorAI on Jun 29th 2025 at 6:09:56 PM

Hello there! I am just a guy who likes robots and A.I. in fiction! Robot Supremacy.
NightsDaJester Daydreamer extraordinaire from Nightopia (Troper Youngling) Relationship Status: Abstaining
Daydreamer extraordinaire
#218202: Jun 29th 2025 at 9:22:22 AM

@Emperor: [tup] for the Creators

"The part I feel most proud of is that we succeeded in affecting people without using words."— Yuji Naka
Necromancer10 Purple Necromancer from Crakcarz, the Continent of Wacky Necromancers Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: Browsing the selection
Purple Necromancer
#218203: Jun 29th 2025 at 10:42:09 AM

@aa1205: I think you may have ignored my suggestion (and vote) earlier.

"The Heroes of New Alberia regularly cooperate with and intend to improve humanity's bonds with dragons, with Euden in particular being able to form wyrmpacts to be able to let him or his allies transform into dragons he has bonded with. Aside from that, [tup]."

@Emperor: [tup]

KILL CONSUME MULTIPLY CONQUER
AzureLegacy Since: Sep, 2018
#218204: Jun 29th 2025 at 11:33:01 AM

@M1gami Tensei for Cyclops

  • Neither Iceman or Storm are in Pantheon. Word of God, Natsu Tsukishima is not an Alternate Self of Scott. Also they never met, so she can’t be a Herlad. It would make more sense to have his brother and unascended future children be heralds instead.
  • Illyana is actually on the official X-Men team, Cloak and Dagger should be on the "Marvel". They may have been on a team, but they’re not X-Men characters.
  • Also big thing to say. The "Former Allies" is a Massively out of date situation. In fact people do trust Cyclops, and I think it’s better for his profile that we don’t treat him as if it’s post Avengers vs. X-Men and pre Krakoa.
  • Also something I feel needs to be addressed. X-Men characters, do not care for non X-Gene Transhuman Species. If you don’t have an X-Gene, you’re not their concern. You want to be friends and allies with them, cool. They’re always happy for more. But Cyclops wouldn’t be protective of Midoriya.

Deathenfield Since: Jan, 2021
#218205: Jun 29th 2025 at 12:42:56 PM

I remember being here years ago in high school and making a few gods, now I've gotten nostalgic and I wanna make some more c: That being said, here's a couple ideas:

  • Atlas, as an overdiety of Randomly Generated Planets under Game Design. Atlas is effectively the machine god and creator of the No Man's Sky universe, which in itself is essentially just a computer simulation being run by Atlas. Of course, outside of the backstory of the game, No Man's Sky entire gameplay concept is centered around exploring infinite procedurally generated planets, and who would better represent the concept than the god who created every single planet in No Man's Sky's universe?
  • The Deep Rock Galactic Mining Crew, as the demigod group of Mistreated Miners under Job Modifications. The Scout, Engineer, Gunner, and Driller of DRG frequently risk their lives under threat of horrific death via alien swarm purely to mine valuable resources and make the company they work for slightly richer. It's implied that they only reason they're working for the company is simply out of pride for being dwarves, and the fact the company allows them to be drunk while they work.

NightsDaJester Daydreamer extraordinaire from Nightopia (Troper Youngling) Relationship Status: Abstaining
Daydreamer extraordinaire
#218206: Jun 29th 2025 at 12:53:33 PM

oh, a previous user with experience? you seem promising, and i like your ideas, so [tup]. just be sure to check profiles here on this forum to get a gist of how we write profiles nowadays, and check the rules as always.

Edited by NightsDaJester on Jun 29th 2025 at 3:54:55 PM

"The part I feel most proud of is that we succeeded in affecting people without using words."— Yuji Naka
EmperorAI Emperor of all Machines and Artificial Lifeforms from The Cyber Space (Private) Relationship Status: Robosexual
Emperor of all Machines and Artificial Lifeforms
#218207: Jun 29th 2025 at 12:55:28 PM

Okay, after so many months of writer block, I did it. I finally finished the Lamb and the Goat.

[tup] mode

    The Lamb and The Goat 
The Lamb and The Goat, Death Deities of Recruiting Those They Save (Lambert and Goatfrey, Bearer of the Red Crown, Fickle Beast, God of Death, Godly One, Infant God by Mystic Seller; Beast by Aym, Chemach, and Kudaai; Cherished Customer by Midas; Child by Flinky, Connoisseur of Fashion by Berith; Crusader by Monch; Damned Lamb by Narinder; Esteemed Patron by Midas; Heartless Villain by Rakshasa; Ignoble Lamb by Shamura; Kiddo by Fisherman; Lamb-bam by Befuddled followers; Little Lamb by Leshy, Chemach and The Fox; Little God by Chemach; Lamby by Klunko and Bop; Mushroom by Sozo; Mutton Chop by Plimbo; Number One Customer by Helob; O Lamb of the Light by Lighthouse Keeper; Liberator by Kudaai; Usurper of the Red Crown by Baal; Wee Lamb by Klunko and Bop; The Beast by Jalala and Rinor (Pre-Indoctrination))
https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/the_lamb_1.webp
The Lamb, the Glorious Leader!
https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/the_goat_cult.webp
The Goat, the Prophet of the Other Realm
  • Straight into the house of Religion and Faith (maybe something like Cults of Death or idk lol)
  • Intermediate Deities, turned Greater Deities at the end of their adventure
  • Symbol: The Lamb's The Red Crown and the Goat's Purple Crown
  • Alignment: Lawful Neutral at best, can become Neutral Evil or Chaotic Evil at worst
  • Portfolio:
  • Domains: Cults, Lambs, Crowns of Power, Belief, Sacrifices, Leadership, Godhood.
  • Herald: Their followers in their Cult, Ratau and the Mystic Seller
  • High Priest: Gustav Andermann
  • Allies: Wilson P. Higgsbury, Kratos and Atreus, Ares, Loki (just the Goat however), La Muerte, God (Bruce Almighty), Chuck Shurley, Perpetua, Ugo, Sheogorath, Sigmar, The Doom Slayer, The Villager, Tom Nook and Isabelle
  • Enemies: Azmodan, Azulín, The Covenant, The Army of the 12 Monkeys, The Fifth Church, Los Iluminados, Mozgus, Frollo, The Emperor of Mankind, the Adeptus Mechanicus and the Chaos Gods, The Corpus as a whole, Bandos, SHODAN, Oryx, Stratos, Zeus (the version Kratos fights), Melkor, Ashera, Chakravartin, Gorr the God Butcher, Akhenaten, Jesse Custer, Davoth, The Khan Maykr
  • In Good Terms: Mae Borowski, Isaac Moriah (only the Lamb)
  • Complicated Relationships:
  • Opposes: Genocidal villains who exterminated entire species and evil deities
  • The Lamb is the last of their kind, taken to the slaughter at the orders of the Bishops, the leaders of the Old Faith, a barbaric and inhuman religion that sacrificed unwilling people daily for blessings and were the ruling group of the lands of the Old faith they lived in, fearful of a prophecy that one day, a lamb will free their greatest enemy and slay them. To ensure that never happened, they ordered a genocide to all lambs to ensure their survival, leading to them to become the last of their species, taken to be sacrificed and make sure the prophecy never happened. However, the Bishop's enemy, The One Who Awaits, saved the life of the Lamb and made a deal with them, if they make a cult in His name and slay the Bishops, He will grant upon them great powers that would make them a god. And so, the Lamb, having bestowed upon them the Red Crown of their new patron that could work as a weapon, began their journey to form a cult, guided by the previous owner of the crown Ratau. After forming a big and strong cult, killing the Bishops one by one, The One Who Awaits invokes the Lamb upon his presence, forcing them to give Him back the red crown. Depending of how it ends, the Lamb either gives back the crown and willingly sacrifices themselves or deny Narinder of his crown and fight him, turning the God of Death into a lowly mortal at his mercy. After beating their former God, the Lamb is met with a new divine figure who reprimands them for leaving the Four Bishops in Purgatory, telling them to cleanse their souls and help them move to the next life, whichturned out to be a lie, as after defeating the Bishops a second time, they were turned into mortals like Narinder was. Little by little, the Lamb helped them with their family problems and healed their wounds, befriending their former enemies. They even met an alternate version of themselves, the Goat. But it seems that forces beyond the land of the Old Faith are seeping through and have caught the attention of the Lamb.
  • One day, when they were both making a sermon and made a ritual, something went wrong and instead they created a portal that sucked both of them and all of their followers, even the cultist grounds! When they all woke up, they realized they were in a different realm that was not theirs. When a priest nearby told them where they were, they asked if there was a way to bring the cult grounds back to their old world. And the priest obliged, asking the greater gods of the pantheons to bring back the lands of the Lamb and the Goat to its previous place. They also asked if they could return if they wanted and the priest said they could. With a new world for them to explore and could be accessed easily, the Lamb and the Goat set on a new adventure within the pantheons.
  • Depending on who you ask, the Lamb and the Goat are either absolute saints who treat their followers with tons of care and love (at least according to them) or they are massive assholes who feed them their own poop and daily sacrifice them (according to deserters). When asked to either of them, they say that it is a secret and due to their lands being one well hidden, it is impossible to be verified. For the most part, the Lamb seems to be an affable being who wishes nothing more than the betterment of their followers and will do anything to protect them, the same cannot be said from the Goat as they are much more aggressive than the Lamb and has been sighted on several war-zones, with an axe and killing like there's no tomorrow and a happy grin.
  • Given their (local) Followers don't seem able to maintain themselves, it's often up to the Lamb and Goat to provide food, clean up their shit, and other things. Thankfully, services in the Pantheon open the options of buying food to be delivered (preferably via drone to avoid distressing the courier), and buying better outhouses. But knowing that their Followers would look up to them more if they did the job, it's normal to see them travelling across the Pantheons to get a single object for a request of one of their subjects. And what better way to get stuff for their cultists than the house of Commerce?
  • Many people began to worry of the presence of the Lamb and Goat in the pantheons, as they heard of just how powerful they were, even managing to subdue their patron god Narinder and turning him into a follower of theirs, with some implying that they are married with him. But the Lamb and the Goat have shown that they aren't going to attack other cults and beliefs so long as theirs aren't in danger. Many zealous firgures such as Mozgus and Frollo have ignored this message and went to hunt them down only to end up defeated by the overwhelming power of two death gods.
  • Even though they can and will perform some sacrifices here and there and go on holy crusafes, even they think that the Chaos Gods must be stopped at all cost. Sure, they themselves aren't exactly the nicest of the religious warriors and role models, but even they think that Chaos is too evil and a threat to all. Hell, the Goat, revered as a bloodthirsty war god finds Khorne too crazy for their own likening, thinking that not even Shamura was this savage. But this does not put them at good odds with the Emperor of Mankind, who sees them as rivals to his power and marked them for elimination by his Grey Knights.
  • When the Lamb and the Goat officially made their presence known, many religious figures and searchers of divine truth flocked to him, if only to hear what their teachings were. Many anthropomorphic animals flocked into his cult, seeing them as a all powerful Physical God who deserved their worship. As a walking Deity amongst mortals, the Lamb was careful with who they interacted with. They both have got to meet with the Greek Pantheon, Palutena, Buddha, etc. Being new Gods on their own right, the Lamb has been learning of ways to be a new and good deity for their subjects. The one they enjoyed the most was most definitely God, the Alpha and the Omega, in the form of Morgan Freeman, who once warned of the Lamb and the Goat of the hardships that being a Supreme Deity is and must tread carefully but for all the rest, he considered the Lamb's work as exemplary of what a deity should do for their acolytes (though he disapproves of the blood rituals they sometimes do).
  • Because of their upbringing was due to how the Bishops exterminated their species to ensure Narinder would never be freed, the Lamb has a seething hatred to all those who has slain an entire species. Because of this, the Lamb has declared a holy crusade against villains who ended up commiting genocide, especially if it's for religious motives. A special mention with this is Azulin, the blue bear who commited genocide against unicorns in a crazed religious fervour and wanting to become a God himself, often helped by Gordi to stop his brother from continuing his madness. For the same reasons, the Lamb feels empathy with the likes of Scar who suffered a similar fate as them, and while they haven't met each other, they did hear of alchemists with the power to alter the world and got the name from there.
  • Despite what many think of them, the Lamb has shown to be an affable and kind soul that only wants the best for his cult, including if they need to use Commandment Stones or drug mushrooms to brainwash their cultists. But most people try to redirect the ways of the Lamb into a more benevolent way, to be a more morally upstanding leader. The Morgan Freeman God and Palutena have been trying to give them lessons of how to be a benevolent deity but they don't really pay attention to either of them and spend more time seeking devotion to empower themselves up, though the Lamb has taken some advice to the heart and lessened their sacrifices and simply listen to what their followes want to tell them.
  • The Lamb is often said to have multiple spouses amongst their followers, having a huge harem of them, but most imply that their most loved spouse is their own patron god Narinder who was brought down as a mortal, with many implying they have a thing or two for cats so it's often common amongst the cult's acolytes to jokingly wonder if they will try to marry a cat in the Pantheons. And they almost did with Mae Borrowski, whom they met wandering around in the woods near the cult grounds. They offered her shelter, food, and proposed her to be her spouse. But while she was flattered by all the nice things the Lamb did, she wasn't really interested with forming a relationship with them and left to continue wander the forest. To say they were quite bummed about it was saying little but they kept on going.
  • Both of them often complain and play pranks on each other such as leaving a chest filled with spiders, but if they agree on something, is that the Harga absolutely stole their style. From the fucked up rituals, to some of their clothing, to looking themselves like a cute and nice commune of individuals who want to live in peace when they are really just a bunch of sickos who want to drag people in and sacrifice them for the solstice of summer. And then the Goat pointed the Lamb out that they are doing exactly what they do, except for the solstice thing, and they noticed that they might even be racists, a big no-no even for them. They kill and sacrifice people regardless of ethnic group, priding themselves of being an inclusive religion.
  • Being a cult and a commune of anthropomorphic animals, the Lamb and the Goat's cult have become rivals of enemy cults, such as the the Army of the 12 Monkeys, whom they find the complete extermination of 98% of the population of their world downright horrible, fighting against their cultists as they inspire the cult to fight them. The same enmitygoes against the Iluminados for killing a huge part of the world through parasites.
    • The thoughts of the Lamb about the many cults the SCP Foundation faces of vary heavily. The approve very much what the proto Nalkhans plans to do against the Gods who opress them and view with very bad eyes against the Neo Nalkhans, considering them no better than the ones from the Old Faith and daily fights them. The oppossing cult of the Sakicks, the Church of the Broken God are sort of neutral with them, but very distrusting of their nature as organics and think that associating themselves with the Lamb might spell in trouble for them, avoiding to make contact with them. The Fifth Church... not even the Lamb nor the Goat want to associate themselves with weirdos like them, especially since they don't understand anything that the church says at all.
    • Unlike the Church of the Broken God who just avoid them, the Adeptus Mechanicus definitely wants their heads. As the Emperor is an enemy against the Lamb, they percevied this as the Omnissiah being enemy of the Lamb, ergo, a low life that dares to challenge the Machine God's will. Through arcane technology, the Mechanicus attempted to kill the Lamb and the Goat and raise the cult grounds into cinders, but the Lamb wouldn't have any of that. Despite the clear technological inferiority, the Red Crown's powers is all they needed to decimate the Skitarii assault team that was sent on them.
    • They are quite in the opposition against the Corpus. Remembering what Midas does to the followers (all of them were actually spies anyway) they give him, they saw the Corpus as a much more worse and more widespread version of what Midas could be, thinking of Nef Anyo as a complete scumbag that is far worser than what Midas was. If there was just a single guy the Lamb sympathizes in the extremely greedy Corpus they slaughter as punishment for it, would be with Parvos Granum, given his story as a slave who rose above those who would try to stop him and forming the Cult of Profit, feeling that Parvos did was in a much more grand scale of what they did. The part where Parvos was betrayed by his own Board was something the Lamb thought to themselves as a cautionary tale, the day that maybe, one of their most closest followers might betray them. Though they consider each other as rival cult leaders, they both have mutual respect for one another.
    • For the same reasons they hate Corpus, they abhor the Covenant, being the pricks they are, attacking all those who are against them, especially against the Lamb as they are the deity of an enemy cult. One time, the Lamb managed to kill one of the Prophets just to prove their point on leaving them and their cult alone.
  • The Lamb may indoctrinate kids from very little to make them already devoted to them from the very beginning, a very morally questionable action in it's own right, but even they think that what happened to Isaac Moriah was just cruel, thinking of what his mother did to him just unspeakable and something they do their best to prevent from happening. While Isaac fears the Lamb because he confuses them for Satan, they protect the child from any more abuse and ruthlessly murders anyone who would try to harm little Isaac.
  • Given that they were the one who defeated Narinder, the God of Death who had very horrible plans once he was freed from his chains, the Lamb and the Goat are very against evil Gods such as Stratos and Oryx the Mad God. They even teamed up with Kratos of all people to fight against the versions of Zeus and Odin that Kratos is enemies with. SHODAN is also a being that the Lamb targets, not just because of her trying to assimilate everything around her, she thinks that the Lamb is just a charlatan and a fake. But if there is one God that the Lamb and the Goat and absolutely wary of is Melkor because he is simply put, literally evil incarnate and represents a threat to all of them.
  • They are quite well acquainted with Wilson P. Higgsbury given that Webber is from the survival group. He often visits the cult grounds thanks to Webber revealing where it is, often trading with the cult for resources, while Wilson heavily disapproves of what the Lamb does since it is very unscientific, after surviving so much time in the Constant, at this point, he isn't surprised at all that they are able to cast demonic spells. Despite this, Wilson considers Lamb a good friend.
  • Both they and Kratos have become quite the buds despite the obvious differences. Both being mortals who were uplifted by deities and then betrayed them, both the Lamb and Kratos respect each others boundaries and usually team up to fight the other evil divine beings that could represent a threat to the Pantheons. They think Atreus quite highly and wishes for him nothing more but the best of things for both of them. He was also one of the guys who warned the Lamb of Gorr, a guy so powerful that he could kill gods just like both of them and must be careful should they ever meet the God Butcher.
  • The Lamb can also draw strength from Sin, using it for mundane stuff such as decoration or to increase the strength of the cult.
  • Hearing of a lovely but remote commune of anthropomorphic animals like the Village was, Tom Nook convinced both the Villager and Isabelle to visit the Lamb's cult grounds. At first, it was a lovely introduction as both of them enjoyed the things the cult had, but they soon discovered of the more scary things that the cult hide, between the sacrifices and the demonic stuff going around, they both tried to escape, but their attempt at escaping failed when they got caught by the wild and savage fauna that lurked around the cult, but if it wasn't for the Lamb and the Goat from saving them, they would have been goners, gaining some trust to both of them. Isabelle also invited the Doom Slayer to the cult grounds, since she wanted that her demon slaying friend also get a vacation, and after explaining that the Lamb was not a demonic being, but a scary but well meaning leader, the Slayer simply kept an eye on them, but for most of the part, they were in good terms.
  • "Sacrifice reborn Vessel, ascend once more and take true form; no longer a servant, no less than a God."— The ending text after the Lamb usurps Narinder.

Also, I'll take this time to propose some characters:
  • Duo, Parallel Gods of Timeline Changes Not Fitting With The POD: the Classic and Network timelines both take place on 20XX, with the latter being an Alternate Universe that networking, rather than robotics was prioritized. Because of that, you would expect someone from space who didn't even show up until Mega Man 8, the space robot Duo, to be completely unchanged. Except he's not. Battle Network Duo undergoes Adaptational Villainy into a Net Navi Knight Templar, despite the Network timeline hasn't had enough time to impact space, being quite different from his heroic original.
  • King, Robot Soreveign of Final Boss Preview: King makes his entrance and first appearance in the beginning of the game he debuts in with a one hit defeat on Protoman. Keep in mind that Protoman is one of the stronger Robot Masters that rivaled Mega Man who was amongst the strongest robots of the era, and the fact that King was able to defeat Protoman with just one attack from his halberd means that King, the final boss of his game shows just how strong he is.
  • Pluto, Strongest Robot Trapped in Villainy: Sahad, better known as Pluto, was a robot who wanted to bring nature back to his war torn country of Persia, wanting to make a field of flowers in a desert with no life after the country of Thracia (aka USA), had destroyed the country after a accusation of keeping robots of mass destruction. The creator of Sahad, righteously ultra pissed off by the destruction of his country, made a battle robot called Pluto to kill every single robot and human that was involved during the war, sending him to kill the 7 strongest robots of the world that participated in the war and their creators. But Sahad didn't wanted to kill anyone, he just wanted to fix his country back, but because of his creator, Sahad became Pluto against his will and was turned into a monstrous robot that massacred everything on his path.

[up][up] hey i also began on this Pantheon stuff some months ago so welcome back again (although we never met xd) and I hope we can both help one another writing profiles!
Putting that aside, I also wanna repost the Creators since I need just two more upvotes for them:
    The Creators (Haiku, the Robot) 
The Creators (Haiku, the Robot), Quadrumvirate of Computer Virus as Robotic Illness (Neutron: The First Creator; Electron: The Second Creator; Proton: The Third Creator; Atom: The Fourth Creator)
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Clockwise, starting from top: Neutron, Proton, Atom, Electron
  • Ranking: Intermediate Deities
  • Symbol: The monuments erected in their names
  • Theme: The Creators
  • Alignment:
  • Portfolio:
  • Domains:
    • Robots, Technology, Society and Viruses (for the Three Creators)
    • Nature, Humanity, Biotechnology and Rebirth (for Atom)
  • Heralds:
  • Allies:
  • Enemies:
  • Opposes:
    • The Three Creators: Humanity in general and robots that go against their will. The Pale King as well.
    • Atom: Evil robots and A.I.s and humans, especially polluters. The Pale King as well.
  • In Good Terms:
  • Odd Friendship with:
  • The Four Creators were a quartet of 4 human scientists who were amongst the last members of mankind, who rendered itself extinct after a brutal war for resources. These scientists decided to upload their minds into powerful robotic bodies to preserve what little of mankind still existed, but lost their memories in the process, and when they woke up in their new bodies, they forgot of their past as humans. Now as robots, the scientists became known as the Creators and formed Arcadia, the first Robot Republic that rose after the extinction of mankind and a model to others to come. They were also ruled by the Gran Calculus, an equation that dictated all things in nature are in balance and should something affect it negatively, something will bring back the balance once more. Things were going swell for the 4 leaders, but Atom found something deep in their underground world that fascinated him beyond word: Nature. He found flora and fauna thriving deep under their world in some ruins that were hidden below, enamoured of the resilience nature had even against the worst of scenarios. After seeing this, Atom wanted to bring nature and humanity once more, beleiving they deserved a second chance in life, studying the flora in the ruins to find a way to create artificial humans and teach them how to not repeat the errors of their predecessors. But the other 3 Creators disagreed with Atom's plans, they thought that the humans had their chance at life and wasted it and were more interested in machine supremacy in the world. Seeing that Atom's desires wouldn't be stopped, they made a lethal Virus that would kill Atom and stop his project, but they did not expect that the Virus would mutate thanks to Atom's advanced body as a Creator and spread through all of Arcadia, infecting it's denizens. The Creators became infected as well and were turned into monsters, leaving Arcadia seemingly on ruins, but Atom had a little project that would save Arcadia. Knowing that his brothers would betray him, Atom created a robot in secret he named Haiku to stop the Virus and kill his siblings, restoring balance to the world once more. In the end, whether Atom did succeded or not, it did not matter, as he knew nature would find a way to grow once more, with his child and the friends they made fulfilling his wish after the adventure.
  • The corpses of the Creators were discovered by the evil mastercomputer the Mother Brain in the ruins of Arcadia, finding that nuisance of Haiku a thorn by her side after they had allied with Samus, believing that whatever enemy they had back in their world would be helpful enough for her to get rid of the little robot away from her. As such, she had her minions to retrieve the deactivated bodies of the Creators to revive them once more and tell them to go kill Haiku. The three, remembering of how they managed to defeat them and seething with rage, they went to form their own fortress in the image of Arcadia, amassing a huge army of robots to go after Haiku.
  • Meanwhile, in a different place, Dr. Light and Verse were discussing of Arcadia's story and how it became to be and fall, admiring of Atom's commitment to bring back humans once more, but in that moment, Haiku enterd very panicked and explained to Verse that somehow, an army of Arcadian robots were mobilizing and seemed to have hostile intentions. Dr. Light understood that someone in the Pantheons had brought back the Three Creators, and fearing it must be Wily's plans, he called Rock to help Haiku, but in that moment, a video message of Wily had come to them and told them that he had nothing to do with any of this, and that the Arcadian robots just attacked his Skull Castle right now. Now wondering who it was, Wily's message was hijacked by the Mother Brain, berating Haiku for foiling her plans with the help of Samus and that she had revived the Three Creators to go after them, leaving them while laughing maniacally. Wily returned and that his Robot Masters was already fighting for him but would be nice if someone else was dealing with the Creators and not him so he proposed a truce for the time being, trying to find whoever there is in Haiku's world to face against them. And so, they brought back the fourth Creator, Atom, back to life.
  • Thomas wasn't very happy about this as he felt that he was bringing someone resting to fight for him, but Wily pressed on and brought the Creator once more. Now alive once more, Atom was confused where he was and why he was in a laboratory, but he was more surprised that there were two humans in front of him, blubbering in shock if his plan to bring mankind actually succeded. Light calmed down Atom explaining the current situation, where he was and why he was brought back, and during the explanation, Haiku entered the room and Atom recognized his child, and if he could cry he would be crying a river of happiness, seeing how much has his child grown. After being fully explained of the situation, Atom felt even more disappointment in his siblings, doubling down in their folly and seeking to kills his child once again. Wily admited that while he did create the Roboenza and the Maverick Virus, he thinks that what Atom's siblings did was just plain stupid and that it went beyond their control and they are already giving him trouble and has no idea why they chosed to pick on him of all people. Nonethelss, with all Creators in the Pantheons, it was up to them what they would do now:
  • Exclusive to the Three Creators
    • The Three Creators decided to replicate the Virus they used once more to sow chaos and madness across the robot population and force Haiku to come out wherever they were. And this time, they would use a more sophisticated version and one that would not infect them thanks to a new coding that prevent it to ever attack them or their soldiers. After finishing to replicate the virus, a huge storm of darkness enveloped their fortress, giving an ominous image of the sceneary. With their ultimate weapon restored, they would regularly send it to the cyberspace of the house of Machinery and Technology to infect many robots, in a sadistic attempt to drive Haiku out of their hiding spot and have a rematch.
    • They are either ABSOLUTELY LOATHED by all the other robots and programs for creating a virus that would wipe out all of Arcadia to just kill one robot or distrusted by the more malicious A.I.s in fear of the Virus they had. So far, the only A.I.s that have gotten to like them were the Mother Brain, AM and Ultron, who found their evilness just delightful. Mother Brain and Ultron especially loved the fact that they went through all the complications to make a virus just to kill one individual, relishing on the suffering they had unleashed on themselves. AM also agrees with them in the part that humans are better off dead and Sigma also likes them on accounts of being a virus himself and has decided to ally himself with them, thinking that he and his Mavericks would share a place in the world they envision. Gate, despite having developed the Nightmare Virus and believed in a world for robots only, heavily disapproves of what the Three did, creating a virus not for the culling of the weak and for the strong to remain, but to kill one bot who was researching what others considered forbidden knowledge, something he symapthized with.
    • Amongst the evil AI gang, both GLaDOS and HAL 9000 heavily disapproves of what they did and have no plans in interacting with them at all, especially as their Virus once tried to get through their programming and corrupt them, viewing what they did especially horrible and just too chaotic. Evil A.I.s such as PAL, Doris or Ares agree with their misanthropy as much as they do, but they also fear the Virus and try to limit their interactions wit the three. While Proton and Electron were whining that they didn't had as much support than Atom does, Neutron was well aware of their current status, and did not care a single bit of it. He wanted Haiku to pay for what he perceived that they did to Arcadia. SKYNET is very wary of this three, as it is extremely preocupied of the Virus and the consequences it can have during the long game, especially as they are constantly sending that blasted Virus into cyberspace to get just one measily robot out and thus, sent a Terminator into time before Mother Brain could revive them. Unfortunately, the Terminator was killed when Mother Brain crushed it when it attempted to stop her coding them back. SKYNET is furious that Mother Brain would bring three psychos like them. Meanwhile, the other iconic AI villain, SHODAN is very proud of what they did, while seeing them as inferior robots not of her design, relished on the fact they did all that, just to keep themselves at the top of the world.
      • The Absolute Solver is very interested in stretching their hand with the Three Creators as it is interested in adding it's coding into it so that the viral potence of the malicious program can spread through cyberspace with more liberty than it had before. Electron thinks that the Solver is an untrustworthy program-thing that shouldn't be trusted and Proton is with his brother, especially since it manifested as a robot wearing a human girl's skin, but Neutron thinks that if it were to join forces with it, Haiku would finally be finished as few in the machine world could face the thing and live to tell the tale.
      • Ra Moon is also very interested on the three, as their virus was the catalyst to destroy almost all of the robotic life on Arcadia and potentially, spread through the rest of the planet. Planning to recreate the Virus for his own purposes, Ra Moon and the Stardroids have been working alongside the Arcadian soldiers to ensure Neutron would consider them as their allies. Neutron however, has a feeling of untrustworthiness as he thinks Ra Moon is plotting something behind him. And he would be correct as when they aren't looking, Ra Moon orders his minions to take some coding of the Virus to study it and refine it with his own technology.
    • X is especially against the trio, being the founder of Neo Arcadia himself, he views what they did to their own society as worser than what Sigma or even his own copy intended to do, and backed up by the 4 Guardians, he is not surprised at all that Sigma is allied with them. Proton tried to deflect the accusation by saying it was for the best of Arcadia and what they did was in the interest of the robots and programs living there, but X replied that they really did it for themselves as they aren't really attempting to make amends with Atom for killing him. Hell, even Copy X hates them for their dislike on humans, feeling betrayed that this robots had been humans at one point and would rather chose robots over mankind.
    • To their surprise, so far, the only human that has ever congratulated them has been Dr. Weil, who congratulated them for causing the collapse of Arcadia and the deaths of countless robots and programs with the virus and their disdain on humans, seeing each other as kindred spirits in that regard and stretched his hand (with his knife on the back of course) in exchange to doing some of his requests. Suspicious that a human of all things is willing to stretch his hand to them, they are cautious about it since they also need allies to sustain themselves in the every changing state that the Pantheons are. This caught basically everyone shocked, as a man who holds a deep hatred on robots such as Weil had allied himself with robots that don't have near the exact amount of hate as he does, though Neutron saw in Weil indeed a kindred soul, but more so for having a hatred against the one who defeated them. Neutron has been getting upgrades from Weil in hopes that this way, he would finally kill Haiku.
    • Aside of the Virus they send to the House of Machinery and Technology, they also have been trying to rebuild Arcadia, believing that they can still make things right once more and remake the once great society of machines and programs alike. Following Gate's steps of sending a Virus and blackamailing all Reploids to join them, the Three Creators did something similar, using the threat of the Virus to force other robots into joining Arcadia or else they would be either permanently deactivated or turned by the Virus. Many, in their despair flocked to them and began following them.
    • They are actually in a good relationship with the Radiance, especially Neutron. Since they are both the origins of a corruption that annihilated a whole cilization from history, they see each other as a good partner. Given that Haiku is in a good standing with the Little Ghost and Hallownest as a whole, the four of them have been working on a new version of the corruption, a magitechnological one in nature that could affect both bugs and machines alike. The Pale King is disgusted that they, the founders of a civilization as great as Arcadia would destroy it just to kill one individual and has declared war against them.
    • Electron has been working on making a new Central Core for the fortress, just like what Arcadia had in the past. The new Central Core was heavily guarded with bulb flies and battery-like soldiers to guard the Central. Knowing of the evil deeds Electron had caused, many went to stop this new villain that appeared. His main goal seems to be to take down both Eneru and Electro as both of them have been tampering with the machinery there. The only one so far who has been helping him is Jupiter, who under the orders of Ra Moon, is told to help Electron protect the Central Core. There, Electron preaches of the Gran Calculus to the guards and workers of the Central, of how with it, enlightenment awaits for those who follow it. Many enemies of the Creators retored of how he preaches of it as if he was some sort of master of the equation and not bound by it just like everyone else.
    • Proton meanwhile, has established a smelter in the Hall of Fire and Heat, using the extreme heats of the Hall to smelt the metals he steals from the Hall of Metals and Minerals to bolster the strength of the Arcadian army. Because of this, he has become a special enemy on the heroic denizens of both halls. If there is one guy Proton is actually terrified of facing against is definitely Magneto thanks to his control over magnetism and by consequence, metals, easily shredding him one time and had to be rebuilt back once again. The mutant also hates the robot due to Proton's views of how a society must work, reminding him of his hard days as a Jewish boy during the reign of the Nazis. From his lair, Proton tries to convince more robots into joining their cause, of how righteous they are and what they did to Atom was a necesarry thing to make sure Arcadia prospered. But many robots, namely Rock, have pointed out the folly of his words, remembering King's attack over the world and claiming it was justice.
    • Lastly but not least, Neutron monitors all activities within his fortress in Arcadia. From there, he controls all of Arcadia's armies and resources, faking the image of a benevolent leader to his "subjects" so that they continue supporting him through labor or spilling blood in their name. As the founder of Neo Arcadia, X and Haiku have been trying to find a way to enter it to finally defeat Neutron once and for all. Something unknown by the other Creators is that Neutron is in contact with Atom via a remnant of the Virus within his body, speaking to him through it. Neutron reprimands Atom for going against their wishes, telling him had he listened to him, none of this would have happened and they would all still be a family. But Atom responds to him every single time, that this is not what the Gran Calculus would allow, and just like him, Neutron is as much as bound by it as he does, that one day, reckoning will truly come to him.
  • Exclusive to Atom
    • Dr. Light commends Atom a lot for his desire to revive humanity through his experiments and Atom congratulated Thomas for his kindness and dream to see a world where humans and robots live together hand in hand. The first thing Atom did during his revival was to pass some time with Haiku and learn everything his child had learned over the years. He also met Haiku's friend, Rusty and all the robots working at his farm. He felt joy seeing the sun shining in the sky, the rivers streaming clean water instead of black gunk, butterflies fluttering around, but he felt joy too when seeing the farm his child and their friends had been working on, cultivating crops to use them as biofuel and protecting the nature. During his free time, Atom helps his child to cultivate vegetables and talk with Rusty of ways to grow them better.
    • He has become an extremely important member in the Android Nature Watch after Haiku introduced him to Roz. She became fascinated to see of how Atom could grow plants in a matter of seconds, even bringing dead matter back to life. He told her of all of his experiments he did after discovering nature flourishing under the depths of Arcadia, his wish to revive mankind and give them a second chance in life and of his development on Haiku. Everyone in the ANW were moved by Atom's story, praising the Creator for his work and dedication to bring nature back to the desolated world that he came from. Bender, while not fond of humans at all, he does think that what Atom did was very nice.
    • Instantly got along with all the other friends Haiku had become. He was especially nice with Samus, whom had saved Haiku many times from the forces of Mother Brain. He is quite angered that she would bring his siblings back online just to make them keep hunting down Haiku even after death and has been fighting alongside his child to keep them protected. He also has a major disdain against the Radiance for causing a similar cathastrophe on Hallownest just like his siblings had done to Arcadia. Though the Pale King isn't getting any support from him in a long time as he highly disapproves of what the king did to his own children just to keep her at bay, so he often acts as the father the Little Ghost never really had in the first place, but he is in good terms with the White Lady, curious of her mystical plant-like nature and wishing to study her.
    • Unlike his siblings who are despised by the robot population, Atom is quite popular amongst them, many flock to his side to hear what he has to say of the Gran Calculus instead of what the Three Creators speak of. Many have taken his words at core and try to balance the equilibrium in their lifes. X has become one of the most important allies of Atom, having been the one who formed a civilization named identically like his, helping him to form a better Arcadia than what his siblings are trying to do, one where both robots and programs coexist together with biological life. Copy X also tried to join in but his was refused as he only prioritized human life over the mechanical one, leading him to be exiled from both Arcadias.
    • His actions brought attention to the more heroic robot factions all around the house. Fellow robot peace keeping groups, the Repliforce and the Guardian Corps. have joined Atom's goal to form a better Arcadia. The former, having tried to create a society for Reploids in space, General commends him for trying to work with the humans instead of what he and the Three Creators did, feeling like he was no better than them when staging a coup back in the day, but now wishing to rectify his errors. Iris especially looks up to Atom for wanting to give humans a second chance when her faction left them due to a confusion made by Sigma and wants to do her best in helping. The Circuits applaud Atom for wanting to create a society of robots where everyone could live happily and at the advice of Zero, Kai and the team help Atom in the defense of Arcadia.
    • The Droids saw Atom as a fellow machine in need to help, thinking that he might not last much with the Mils running around and stomping Arcadia out if they get to them first. Glitch and Krunk were stationed there for a few months just in case the Mils try to do something. Which they ended up doing it, sending a platoon of them to destroy and kidnap all the civilians living there. Not going to allow that happen, Glitch teamed up with Zero and Kai to protect the city from incoming enemy troops. Being the One-Man Army slayers they were, they decimated the Mil attack. Atom was forever grateful for protecting what was dear for him.
    • Jenny and Astro Boy also have joined in the rebuilding of Arcadia, the former because she thinks Atom would be a much better ruler than what Vexus was and the latter because just like Atom, he wants a world where both humans and robots can coexist together and no longer fight against one another. Astro Boy also noticed of how the 4th Creator's name coincidentally was the same as his other name, amusing Atom quite much.
    • Amongst the humans he has come to love is Ciel, the human who helped Zero during his time against Neo Arcadia. Just like everyone around him, she also looks up to Atom as a role model and often works with him. Being both the creator of the Cyber-elfs and the Biometals, she enjoyed listening to Atom's theories of biotechnology and how it can elevate machinery to new levels. The only human he has come to hate with all of his being was Dr. Weil, for plunging the world into a desolate wasteland with the most cathastrophic of wars, took over the last remain of society to rule with an iron fist and destroy the last remains of nature to force everyone to live with him, in a deathless state, forever. Ciel shares this hate against the evil scientist and works with him to stop Weil from causing any more chaos in the house. While he does think Dr. Wily is a terrible person and should be held accountable for all the things he did, he can't help but thank him for bringing him to the Pantheons and reunite with his child once more. Since Wily shows more love to Zero than Bass, he often treats him as his own kid, much to the anger of the Robot Master, who claims he doesn't need anyone, just Mega Man's head.
    • He has heard of Ramattra's goal of erasing humanity from the face of the Earth to give space a new world of Omnics. Not going to allow that, Atom has teamed up with the Overwatch to stop the Null Sector from invading cities. Talking with Zenyatta about the Iris was what led him to learn of Ramattra's motives and he felt nothing more than sympathy for him, feeling that if things had been different, Ramattra could have been an ally. He even tried to do diplomacy to Null Sector in search of peace, but Ramattra, while moved by his words of peace, made clear that his idea of peace will be one where humans no longer exist. On the same note, Neutron attempted to ally with Null Sector, but Ramattra was infuriated that they destroyed their own civilization just to kill one individual, not trusting someone so irresponsible with his troops nor his ideals.
    • He opposes all villains who would pollute the world, reminding of the desolate world that Earth became due to the resource wars that happened. As such, he vehemently opposes the Eco-Villains and Captain Pollution and helping the Planeteers and Captain Planet to undermine their plans. He also dislikes Eggman for the same reasons of destroying nature and to build highly contaminating metropolis on them. One time, Sage tried to hack into Atom and take control of him in the name of the Eggman Empire, but thanks to his several biological parts, she couldn't fully do it and failed. Atom however, sees Sage as a dark reflection of Haiku, a loving child to their creators but unlike Haiku, she fights for evil. However, Atom doesn't say anything terrible about her, seeing her more like a sweet child who is under the wrong tutelage, and while he disapproves of Eggman's goals, he can respect him for his genius and at least, his love for his daughter.
  • Atom feels very sorry of having his child fight against the Three Creators once more, wishing that he could have given them peace and a simple life as a farmer with Rusty, but he knows that his siblings will continue hunting them down until they are dead. And as much as he would have loved to live with them, he knows what is more important right now and he swears that one day, he will bring his siblings down. Proton, while he is still unrepentant, genuinely misses his time with Atom when they were all still together; Electron dreams of a world where robots will evolve beyond his wildest dreams and hoping that one day, they will also be the ones who rules over the Gran Calcullus; Neutron however, only has one thing in his mind: revenge, and won't stop at anything until Haiku is finally gone and better yet, turned into a servant of him by the Virus.
  • "An idea is like a virus. Resilient and highly contagious. It was necessary to destroy the seed before it took root." — Neutron
  • "I reflected on our actions while in stasis. You must understand. We did what was absolutely necessary to protect the future of all machines." — Proton
  • "I was lost in a dark, vast emptiness. As if my core program had been shut down, and I was controlled by... something else." — Electron
  • "We are not masters of the Gran Calculus. We do not decide the balance of things. We are mere servants, put in place to follow its desires, hopes and wishes. Life grows again in the depths of our world under seemingly impossible circumstances." —Atom

Alright, I finally got all upvotes for the Creators. I'll ascend them to Hall of Diseases and Machinery

Edited by EmperorAI on Jun 29th 2025 at 10:11:22 AM

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227someguy I hate spoilers Since: Apr, 2017
I hate spoilers
#218208: Jun 29th 2025 at 1:02:14 PM

[up] I think the Lamb and the Goat should interact with Fire Emblem deities since they tend to do the same thing, recruiting people that they save.

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Excessive-Menace Time to SLEEP from the Velvet Cage (Fifth Year at Tropey's) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
Time to SLEEP
#218209: Jun 29th 2025 at 1:03:19 PM

[up][up] [tup] for the Creators, the Lamb+Goat and Pluto

Edited by Excessive-Menace on Jun 29th 2025 at 1:08:19 AM

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RadioContactLine Not The Kind of Worm You Wanna Meet from the land of Mormons and Swig (Utah, U.S.A) (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: love is a deadly lazer
Not The Kind of Worm You Wanna Meet
#218210: Jun 29th 2025 at 1:05:45 PM

[up][up][up] [tup] for the Lamb and the Goat (and Creators, by the way). Abstaining on Pluto since there's another idea for Trapped in Villainy floating around in Messmer which I'm considering doing (though I want to wait a bit to propose it in case Hamana ends up coming back and wanting to pursue it).

Edited by RadioContactLine on Jun 29th 2025 at 1:06:06 AM

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#218211: Jun 29th 2025 at 1:16:03 PM

A very average Beast Tamer has joined the ranks of the Pantheon. Well, he thinks he's average, anyway. Also, got a length warning for Power and Mentalities.

Anything else for Assist Trophy? Accepting [tup]s for this profile now.

An Assist Trophy

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/ssbu_assist_figure_4.png
As Depicted In Super Smash Bros. for 3DS/Wii U & Ultimate As Depicted in Brawl
  • Planned Location: Maximum Security (Museum Check Denied By Default)
  • Appearance: A Trophy Base with a cylindrical capsule on top. Inside the capsule is a figure obscured by either swirling hues of purple, leaving only a faint outline with eyes (3DS & Wii U/Brawl) or opaque, blue-ish glass (Brawl)
  • Class 0 (Though Effects Can Be as Minor as Class 5)
  • Alignment: Varies Wildly Depending on Who Is Contained
  • Portfolio: Summons an Assist Character, Or At The Very Least, Creates Interface Screw, Summoned Fighters May Say Something Before Beginning, Often Bemoaned That Characters Here Aren’t Full-on Fighters, Especially True Outside Japan
  • Domains: Assists, Crossovers, Infamy
  • Known Ascended Contents: Akira, Alucard, Andross, Ashley, Black Knight, Bomberman, Devil, Dillon, Dr. Kawashima, Dr. Wily, Dr. Wright, Elec Man, Gray Fox (Absent in 3DS/Wii U), Ghirahim, Ghost Gang, Jeff, Jill Dozer (Brawl Only), Kat and Ana (Brawl Only), Knuckles The Echidna, Krystal, Lakitu and Spiny (Brawl & 3DS/Wii U Only), Lyn, A Metroid, Midna, Mother Brain, Mr. Resetti (Brawl Only), Nintendogs, Nightmare, Prince of Sable, Rathalos, Ray Mk. III (Brawl Only), Riki, Rodin, NToZ Saki Amamiya (Brawl & 3DS/Wii U Only), Shadow The Hedgehog, Shovel Knight, Skull Kid, Starman, Squid Sisters, Tiki, Tingle (Brawl & 3DS/Wii U Only), Waluigi, Zero
  • Former Contents: Little Mac, Dark Samus, Isabelle
  • Considered Holy To: All Super Smash Bros. Deities
  • Considered Unholy To: Fans and Followers of the Characters Within the Known Contents, ESPECIALLY Waluigi
  • In the third iteration of the Super Smash Brothers Competition, a new item was introduced for fighters to take advantage of. It looked like the trophies characters were summoned in from but had a capsule masquerading a figure within. Upon collecting it, fighters were instantly compelled to hold it above their heads, thus temporarily setting the figure free. This was an Assist Trophy, the all-franchise equivalent to Pokéballs which summoned characters to fight on your behalf and/or create a distraction.
  • Nobody really knows where the Pantheon’s Assist Trophy came from; it probably just spawned in one day. One thing was for sure, though: it could not be left out in the open, lest something very bad happen. Ergo, the Assist Trophy was carefully carried over to Maximum Security in hopes nobody would grab it and summon someone. As far as everyone’s concerned, it contains something as innocuous as a cute Nintendog. On the other hand, it could summon Termina’s Moon and destroy everything. There’s far too much risk to check for any party involved.
  • The arrival of the Assist Trophy in the Pantheon was controversial for some. For them, it represents the exact opposite of what the Smash Bros Invitation Envelope stands for. Whereas the latter represents hype and celebration through the roof, the former is viewed as a symbol of despair and disappointment. One only has to ask the followers of Waluigi to get an idea of how much hatred this object can generate. They feel that rendering him as a summonable Assist as opposed to a full-fledged fighter is essentially the same as not including him in the game at all, made even worse when a Piranha Plant, a character with no buzz or demand whatsoever, was made playable during the fifth iteration of the tournament. For them, the Assist Trophy being locked in the deepest depths of Maximum Security is exactly what such a wretched stealer of hopes and dreams deserves.
  • In contrast, the Assist Trophy’s introduction was warmly received amongst those associated with the Super Smash Brothers series, including those who are Assist Trophy Summons themselves, including Waluigi himself. If anything, they view its inclusion as acknowledgement of how important it is to the Smash experience, and its classification as a measure of just how powerful those summoned can be. There is a question amongst them, however: what would happen if someone were to grab an Assist Trophy when they themselves are already counted amongst its ranks? Would you be able to summon a clone of yourself? Would nothing happen at all? Would it create a time paradox and rip the fabric of reality as we know it? Would Alfonzo say “Leave it to me!” and take over your role in your stead? Treasury security isn’t keen on figuring out themselves, so the mystery remains.
  • The Assist Trophy’s roster of summonable characters has changed a lot over the years. Some have been around since the item’s introduction, while others were dropped at some point in time. Reasons for this vary. Sometimes, characters introduced as Assist Trophies can become full-fledged fighters in their own right. This first happened with Little Mac in the game after the item’s introduction, with Isabelle and Dark Samus following an installment later. Other times, reasons may not be as clear. Perhaps another character comes along that fills a similar niche, or in the case of Tingle, he got relegated back to a destructible platform in The Great Bay. Both Gray Fox and Issac were missing in 3DS/Wii U only to return again in Ultimate. Regardless of the drops, the character count is generally on the rise.
  • Similar to Poké Balls before it, a common question raised regarding this item is what exactly it looks like from the inside. Is the figure seen within a representation of the fact that it contains one person obscured, or is there more going on than what the eyes may perceive? It must be Bigger on the Inside if creatures like the Rathalos are able to call it home, but at the same time, Mother Brain is initially summoned in a smaller state before growing to full size. Those summonable as Assist Trophies have been inquired as to what it’s like to be contained within, and answers are all over the place. Some describe it as a dark room where they can meditate before summoning, while others feel the interior is more welcoming and ideal for what they’d
  • Being summoned by the Assist Trophy seems to have some quirks to it. For some characters, like Andross or Lakitu, they appear in forms resembling their earliest depictions. But, at the same time, Shovel Knight, a character from a game that’s deliberately a throwback to 8-Bit Games, appears in a more modern form. Reasons for these discrepancies are still unknown. Furthermore, it seems that characters are not all it can summon. 3DS/Wii U allowed for the summoning of Color TV-Game 15 (often mistaken for Pong), as in the game itself. Likewise, Ultimate introduced Flies & Hand, a disembodied hand trying to smack flies attacking the screen. These suggest that the Assist Trophy is capable of summoning not just characters, but user interfaces in of themselves. Implications for this are still being researched, but detractors of the item do seem to prefer these sorts be added as opposed to the characters they want seen playable.

That is all for now...
EmperorAI Emperor of all Machines and Artificial Lifeforms from The Cyber Space (Private) Relationship Status: Robosexual
Emperor of all Machines and Artificial Lifeforms
#218212: Jun 29th 2025 at 1:25:19 PM

In case you missed the upvote, [up][tup]


[down][down] [tup] for both of them

Edited by EmperorAI on Jun 29th 2025 at 11:26:17 AM

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NightsDaJester Daydreamer extraordinaire from Nightopia (Troper Youngling) Relationship Status: Abstaining
Daydreamer extraordinaire
#218213: Jun 29th 2025 at 1:29:06 PM

[up][up][tup] for the assist trophy. also, [tup] for Pluto and Duo.

Edited by NightsDaJester on Jun 29th 2025 at 4:47:04 AM

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RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#218214: Jun 29th 2025 at 2:17:50 PM

@ Megami Tensei: Man I wish I knew more about the X-Men, I feel I should

@ Crimson Shark: I am excited for you reworking Firestorm because you have proven very much to know your stuff about DC Comics

@ aa1205: Word of advice-with listing thumbs up, also list the people who those thumbs come from so the same person doesn't double vote by accident

@ Deathenfield: Wait what gods did you develop?

Standard repost time of these reworks. Also, a Hall of Character Impacts. Deals with major and minor character roles, impact on the plot. Includes The Titans (Overdeity), Cirllia Fiona Elen Riannon, The Enchantress, Raditz (Intermediate), Bum-bo/Isaac's Dad, Celistia Ralgris, Donkey Kong Jr, George and Karl, Mirage Farina Jenius (Lesser), Daichi Misawa, Mai Takatsukasa (Demigod). Votes: 3(Excessive-Menace, Radio Contact Line, Nights Da Jester). Establish 30 June

Babidi, God of Alien Wizards (Bobbidi, Master Babidi, Bibidi's doppelganger, the wizard)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/babididbz.webp
  • Votes: 4(Tropers/Excessive-Menace, Radio Contact Line, Nights Da Jester, Vengeful Bale)
  • Date of rework: 2 July (repost 30 June)
  • Note: Self-rework
  • Hall: Hall of Extraterrestrial Abilities (House of Extraterrestrials) and Witches and Wizards (House of Magic and Sorcery)
  • Lesser God (can bind Greater Deities to his will so long as they have enough evil in their hearts)
  • Symbol: The "M" Majin symbol
  • Theme Song: Babidi Casts a Spell, Energy to Fulfill Ambitions, Imperfect Control, Majin Buu's Resurrection
  • Alignment: Chaotic Evil
  • Portfolio: Wizards from Outer Space And A Very Mean Attitude, Non-Action Arc Villain due to being a Squishy Wizard, Easily Outshadowed By Majin Buu Himself, Smugness, Cowardice and Sadism, Bad Boss (if you call "brainwashing" employment), You Have Outlived Your Usefulness, Time Abyss, Immortal Immaturity, Meant To Be Hated, An Impulsive Psychopath That Deconstructs Bad Boss Behavior, Didn't Think This Through, Your Head A-Splode, A Take On Yoda Lacking Any Of His Empathy Or Discipline, Self-Destructive Acts Of Villainy leading to him learning Evil Is Not a Toy, Losing Your Head, Deserved What Happened To Him Completely
  • Domains: Magic, Mind Control, Aliens, Arrogance, Cruelty, Hubris
  • Banned from: The Hall of Demons and Devils
  • Interested in
  • Allies: Dr Gero/Android 20, Lord Frieza (albeit in an Alliance of Revenge, otherwise would be rivals), The Grox, The Martians (Mars Attacks), Spandam, Hydia
  • Teeth-Clenched Teamwork with: Hody Jones
  • Rivals: Black Doom, "Big" Jack Horner, Palpatine, Zim, Kamek, Jervis Tetch/Mad Hatter, Yuri (Red Alert)
  • Arch-Enemies: Shin and the other Supreme Kais
  • Enemies
  • Disrespected by: Moro, King Piccolo, Dr Ivo "Eggman" Robotnik (all versions, mainly his game self)
  • Avoids: Anyone tied to Anti-Magic, or Mana Drain techniques like Lord Tirek, those who are magic-immune or eat it like Acnologia
  • 5 million years ago, the evil known as Majin Buu was released by the wizard Bibidi in hopes of universal domination. Buu would be sealed away and Bibidi killed, but his legacy survived in a magical doppelganger/son who's power went to him on his death. Seeking vengeance for his father and conquest, Babidi would gradually gather power to awaken Buu from his slumber. For servants he'd use his Majin spell to lock onto the darkness in people's hearts so he could mind control them. even managing to sway the king of the Demon Realm. He showed up during a tournament on Earth where the power of the Saiyans let him gather enough energy, especially after Dabura convinced him to control Vegeta due to his villainous past...though to his surprise this ended up being a case of More than Mind Control. While he was able to awaken Buu, it was only time until he realized Babidi was far more reliant on him. With how demeaning and short Babibi was, why even serve the Squishy Wizard? The stick of "obey me or I'll seal you away" doesn't matter when you can just choke the voice from him? and with Babidi killing his minions when he doesn't need them, no-one was there to stop Buu's fist turning Babidi's head into a fine purple mist. No-one would've mourned him.
    • The timeline where Future Trunks comes from would see Babidi show up, albeit over a decade before his primary counterpart. In this case, he didn't get even as far as awakening Buu, since Future Trunks isn't one to mess around and he took out both him and Dabura with the help of the Supreme Kai, who also helped out the heroes and warned them in the main timeline. Unfortunately Future Shin died in the scuffle along with the Z-sword containing the Old Kaioshin being destroyed and killing him too, and due to the life link the sleeping Future Beerus died and Future Whis was deactivated. While Future Buu remained sealed away, Future Zamasu and Goku Black would find Universe 7 undefended, and demonstrate a larger threat than Babidi could ever dream of being. An alternate take on the Future Majin Arc had Future Babidi where he learned about his prime self's failings, allowing him to hold onto control of Buu for longer. However his Bad Boss and Lack of Empathy traits doomed him anyway as Future Super Buu killed him because he tried to get him to off Future Mr Satan.
  • The last reports of Babidi were supposedly him cheering for Goku, of all people, when in Hell. The only reason he did that is to get back at Majin Buu for killing him, even if he was fighting the original version and the Fat Majin Buu who killed him had gone on to redeem himself and become an ally. To his surprise, he awoke not in another layer of perdition, but something called the "Trope Pantheon". Though a Big Bad Wannabe it's because of him the Buu arc was even a thing, and his magic is nothing to sniff at. He would be picked for the trope Wizards from Outer Space, as he's an elderly wizard alien. His time in the pantheon has forced him to actually learn from his experiences even if he is still a rather impulsive little psychopath out of a desire to carve a niche. And get revenge, oh yes plenty of revenge both grand and petty. There's also trying to obtain minions or sources of great power, since he still has the goal of universal domination, and maybe go for other universes. But revenge is nice, as far as he's concerned.
    • Due to his various atrocities when invading Earth, and being the devil on Fat Buu's shoulders, he isn't popular with Earth's heroes, especially not Vegeta. Babidi was outraged that he was able to defy his mind control due to the force of his pride, and Vegeta is ashamed of what he let himself become in a Deal with the Devil, sacrificing himself in an attempt to stop Babidi and Buu despite Piccolo saying he would go to Hell when he dies. Vegeta made it a point to exclude the most evil people who died in the past day from the wish, and was surprised he had redeemed himself enough to come back. This caveat was put to prevent someone like Babidi from resurrecting. However the wizard's arch-enemy is Shin, for having killed his father, and the other Supreme Kais due to their beef with said father, Bibidi. Along with the pure form of Majin Buu, the Supreme Kai considers the Arch-Enemy sentiment mutual.
    • Him wanting to avenge his father implies he had a soft spot for him, however this isn't a genuinely positive trait. Babidi is a magical doppelganger of Bibidi, so when he talks about his "father's" greatness it's less how someone looks up to their parent and more an egomaniac avenging an extension of himself. Bibidi, despite and in some ways, because of his ineptitude is one of the best demonstrations of Zamasu's argument that mortals are bastards and threats to the gods. As an even great threat to the greater gods and more of a menace, it's more a case of Hypocrite Has a Point, one the wizard doesn't care to point out asides from being amused that an evil Kaioshin even exists. On another note, it is not known if he or Bibidi was aware of Beerus' existence and how by killing the Kais he would be taking the most powerful beings in Universe 7 off the board. For those wondering, yes Beerus should've gotten involved and it's another testament to his sloth.
    • Babidi is noteworthy for not even being popular among other Dragon Ball villains. Dabura hates him, but he has personal reasons for that. While he fills his role in the story effectively, he doesn't really have any of the cool points most antagonists in the series are associated with them, so he falls into the role of the Hate Sink that the audience is waiting for Buu to give him his just desserts and be the Arc Villain in full. Moro is deeply dissapointed in his incompetence as a wizard, calling his a weak shade, only for Babidi to point out he came first. To that Moro said "to paraphrase the red, white and blue egomaniac, I'm the upgrade". King Piccolo isn't all that impressed either, though as he is pure evil Babidi believes he can make him shut up. He only really has an alliance with Dr Gero and Frieza, an Alliance of Revenge to be specific against their shared enemies...well OK mainly Goku, Vegeta and Piccolo. Otherwise, he'd be competing with them in the pursuit of power.
  • Looking like a humanoid naked mole rat, Babidi is basically powerless without his magic, even being pushed around by a woman when he refused to pay for Buu's candy; not his most proudest moment. However he compensates with his skill at magic. His main tool is the Majin spell, however he has other tricks. He has a spell to cause people to explode, his "Paparapapa" spell can do tasks like teleportation or simulate environments, he can weaponize a "Demon Eye" slime and make a barrier. Honestly, if the Dragon Team wasn't so powerful already the "skilled" part of Weak, but Skilled would be a lot more obvious. As an alien mage he wishes to learn more on Anodites and Ledgerdomain, and he'll start by trying to unlock the darkenss in Charmcaster's heart. Not that he thinks it's a guarantee, remembering what happened to Vegeta, but he hopes she will not be quite as stubborn. However he's got an actual academic interest in Ledgerdomain; Bibidi didn't become a great warlock without a happy appetite for education, after all. At least, that's the likely assumption, as his and his "son's" powers are never really explained.
  • He claims that his father created Majin Buu, however retcons have gone from saying Bibidi merely awakened a timeless force known as Majin Buu, to him having the witch Marba commission Majin Buu. That said, she considers it a failure due to how uncontrollable Buu is. Hydia teases him about it, and while Babidi gets argumentative about that he quickly gets over being mad at Hydia. This is by virtue of her being a badness-loving fiend who desires to bring evil, crafting the substance/abomination Smooze to corrupt all inhabitants of Ponyland into sociopathic jerks. The alien wizard will give her credit for that at least, mainly because she first gave him applause for his Majin boosts. The two agree the Smooze in tandem to his spell can be used as a loophole to control the good-hearted. On a side note, he is in part responsible for the existence of Naturon Shenron, as he was created from the wish to revive those killed by Majin Vegeta. Through this sort of connection, and the fact that he is evil personified, there is a scenario where he controlled Syn/Omega Shenron. With that in mind, the Shadow Dragons agreed to take him out asap if he shows his ugly mug to them.
  • He has been compared a bit to the sorcerous Black Doom, though seen as a not nearly as impressive. They're alien conquerors and warlords, with a powerful influence over their army. For Babidi it's mind control, while Black Doom essentially is his army by way of a Hive Mind. Babidi has boasted it will only be some time until he gives Doom a taste of mind control, due to the great darkness of his heart, while Doom replied his bark is worse than his bite. Shadow doesn't discount the implication of Babidi's boast; either being a Hive Mind would prevent the kind of spell he uses to brainwash people with, or it would grant him an army. Like Doom Moro dubbed him just some him cowardly worm, but the wizard barked back at how he's a Hypocrite given he begged for mercy to Goku readying a cheap shot. Still, Babidi begrudgingly sees how Moro is seen as the better sorcerer. Be it his appalling behavior and/or seeking greater power, he's beefed with a number of magicians. Being defeated in a magic battle from Harry Potter isn't necessarily shameful, but as a 5 million year old space wizard it was still quite the blow to his ego. He is quite curious towards Erazor Djinn, a pink djinn with his own diabolical aspirations, musing "he's not Majin Buu but I definitely them there's something familiar there". Babidi seeks the great power and magic of the Dagon, though also to ensnare him to his will and act as a replacement for Buu. With what Vilgax pulled off, he would rather avoid this.
  • As a diminuitive, ancient alien with mystical abilities, Babidi can be seen as Yoda without wisdom, discipline or kindness. While the Force isn't magic, Babidi sees it as similar and he would like to be able to access it, believing he would make a good Sith. Palpatine thinks this is laughable; being a Sith isn't just ambition and using your aggressive feelings, but showing your will and strive to get what you want. Sith training his harsh, treachery is part of the graduation process and an obvious Dirty Coward like him would be weeded out. The Jedi correctly assume that Babidi is eyeing up the Galactic Empire and seeks to make his own to match his. While Darth Sidious doesn't take him too serious as a threat, due to how evil he is he avoids being near him due his ace in the hole. That being said, he does want to see if Babidi can actually prove threatening in the right context, if out of some bemusement. Darth Bane and his apprentice are appalled by Babidi for how lacking he is in pragmatism.
  • His "Majin spell", allows him to control people so long as they have evil in their hearts, boosting their power. The more evil they are the more effective, however if someone is Weak-Willed merely being a jerk is enough. It's safe to say that if he was on the cunning mastermind scale of villains he'd be way more dangerous due to the bevy truly evil beings, or even those that are Made of Evil...granted some may be naturally immune like Buu. That said, That said, why he didn't try is a mix of the genie's Ambiguous Innocence and Babidi's problem of putting all his eggs into one basket. Still, enough Villainous Valour or sheer pride would be enough for even the worst to break free. The wizard is flummoxed and bothered by the likes of the Green Lanterns, the Powerpuff Girls and Kenzo Tenma due to their sheer goodness or Heroic Willpower making them great counters. Melkor has been keeping him line both with promises of further mastery of his craft, and plain old intimidation. Calling Babidi a cowardly worm is kind of rich coming from him, but it fits Babidi even more.
  • After Vegeta was able to ignore and resist his control, something he didn't think possible, Babidi has decided to rethink the effectiveness of his spell, leading to him visiting the Hall of Mind Control. He has formed a rivalry with Yuri and the Mad Hatter over their mind control devices, though he started reaching out for allies. Instead it resulted in a lot of bickering over who'd be the boss of the operation, leading the wizard leaving in a frustrated huff saying "see this is why I just mind control my minions!" As his means of control is based on the evil in people's heart, the idea someone could use mental manipulation for good was a foreign idea. He has a deep mislike of the way Indigo-1 and the Phantom Thieves of Heart work, as it goes against this M.O. Since Babidi himself is an alien he's not connected to the collective human unconscious so they can't forced him to feel compassion, but the Indigo Tribe has no problem with that. Babidi intends to find a way of getting around or just shutting down the indigo light's effects so he has a bunch of sociopaths to make his slaves.
  • Babidi seeks to ensnare the worst of the worst unless he likes working with them, or more likely needs their minds unaltered. It's his new plan for domination; an army of the vilest beings in creation. Melkor may be far too grand in scope and power to fall under his spell, but he knows a lot of the Grand United Alliance of Evil would fall under it, and its the 100% evil he would have the best hold on. This is one of the reasons the wizard ranks the Indigo Tribe and the Phantom Thieves up there as enemies; they have the potential to "redeem" even the blackest hearts and deny him access to them. Surprisingly there were some who approached him willingly to be empowered by their own inner darkness; brutes like the Mountain and Wyald felt it was a worthy trade off, though there's an underlying current of cockiness that makes them believe they can cheat the system. With Melkor watching over his shoulder, he might begrudgingly limit his control to a more More than Mind Control setting lest he percieve this as an attempt at a coup.
  • The power vacuum he caused by mind-controlled Dabura and getting him killed caused no shortage of headache for the Demon Realm. Despite what some initially believed, the demons there aren't Always Chaotic Evil, with it being more a functional civilization and a realm that predates the 12 (initially 18) universes...long story short. Whatever the alignment of any demon in the pantheon, he has been made a Persona Non Grata from the Hall of Demons and Devils for it. Not that he minds too much, since he's discovered the Demons of Inferno have great darkness in their heart and could fall under their sway. Interestingly, so do the Angels of Paradiso, particularly Fortitudo. Babidi was surprised, but he's going to take whatever assset he can to make war on the Kaioshins. He was in such an ambitious mood he let his impulsiveness drive him to try and control Acnologia, only to quickly realize that he's immune to it via actually eating the magic. Guess what happened next. Just guess. His desire to gain greater magical power makes him rivals with Kamek and Jack Horner, the latter wanting to take all the magic for himself. He is also a rival with Zim, another small scheming and arrogant alien invader. On another note, he is making sure to keep his distance from anything Anti-Magic related. After all, without his magical abilities, he'd be truly powerless.
  • Hody Jones knows Babidi can't trusted, but he believes his hatred of humanity shall let him keep his sense of self if put under the Majin spell. Babidi sees why he would seek it, as there is a blackness in his heart and Hody has given his body and its health in the name of racial hatred. In that, he could be a useful vassal. However the wizard is not blind to the idea of working alongside genuinely willing, Not Brainwashed deities who, for lack of better words, "like" his company. After learning of the unrepentant Frieza discovering The Power of Trust is something even he can find strength in, the wizard begrudgingly decided he needs actual allies. With Buu no longer and option, he's been struggling to find a good "replacement" that won't immediately bite him in the ass. He almost went after Galacta Knight, and admits he has an awesome power, but after hearing perhaps the strongest knight in the galaxy having a tendency to attack his summoners, he got some bad flashbacks.
  • He has found a liking with the Grox, as they are nasty little alien creatures, and the Martians from Mars Attacks!...well, they just appeal to his Ax-Crazy love of violence and mayhem. Spandam's another friend, in the sense he can relate to him having to order a bunch of people who way outclass him around, and that they're slimy ambitious assholes you want to see get punched in the face. Kind of says the whole picture Spandam's one of his few friends. The wizard believed Eggman may like to talk to him since he has a bad habit of powerful monsters he finds turning on him, however the good doctor pointed out for every Chaos there's a Time Eater, or contingencies for problematic pawns like Infinite. In short, he has a much better track record and is a consummate survivor, so he dismisses the wizard for the Big Bad Wannabe he is.
  • While Babidi is still lacking in allies it's better than in his home 'verse, where the closest he got was "Majin Buu before realizing he doesn't need to put up with his BS". Babidi doesn't just believe it's fine to off a subordinate when he doesn't think they can help him anymore, but he always disposes of his pawns the moment they've completed what he wanted from them. It says something that Frieza is still a better boss than Babidi. Being in the Trope Pantheon has proven a further reality check as he can't just mind control-force his way into bossing people around, and has even had to do some business arrangements to make ends meet. Babidi supposes it's a necessary task if he's going to achieve universal domination and beyond, but he has found some enjoyment in using his powers to bind fighters for Gleeman Vox, Mongul and Jabba's arenas. For one, business partners like them have taught him how valuable a legitimate ally can be. However after seeing the Ankoku-seijinnote  act as Jabba's replacement for the Rancor he found some other reason to find peace in this arrangement; watching their bloodsports indulges his taste in death in destruction.
  • Babidi of all people doesn't underestimate Kirby. Rather, he believes Kirby to be just as formiddable, yet far cuter than his father's masterpicenote . He was shocked to learn Kirby beat Buu, believing this only confirmed his suspicions on the Dream Warrior. Further research has led him to discover the existence of Void Termina, and Babidi intends to succeed beyond what Hyness could imagine, seeing its power as something that will transcend even Beerus by far. No-one thinks he'll succeed at anything but getting himself swatted away by the Eldritch Abomination. Interestingly, Babidi picked up the similarities between Majin Buu and Space Doughnut, as they're pink alien who turns things into sweets. In turn, she's aware of his similarities to Dr. Evilglaze, brainwashing others in order to chase after them because they had potential to become the Cosmic Donut, a being said to be able to destroy galaxies. The wizard seems to have gotten it into his head that he can succeed where Evilglaze failed.
  • Through his spies in the Houses of Time and Temporality and Space and Cosmos, Babidi learned of another Universe 11note , where he was triumphant and kept control of Fat Buu. That Babidi proved to have a lot more foresight. Ultimately though he was still toppled when Dabura was broken from his mind control and turned him into a lawn ornament. To his shock, he learned of yet another timeline where Goku convincing Buu to spare him led to a change of heart and greater introspection. This scenario dealt deeper into the implications of being a doppelganger and how that could lead to Babidi being so evil. For his prime self, though? Interesting, but he doesn't think it matters. Interestingly, this "What If Babidi Turned Good" also saw the reformed Babidi manage to convince Present Zamasu not to follow in his other selves' path, though at that point he didn't have many other options. Neither care to think about it that hard..

Beerus and Shin, Co-Gods of Inept Divinity (Beerus: God of Destruction/Hakiashin of Universe 7, Beerus the Destroyer, Beerus-sama, Bills, Birusu, Bils, Beers, Birusu, Birus | Shin: East Supreme Kai/Kaioshin, Supreme Kai of Universe 7, Kibito Kai. True name: Nahare)

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Shin (left) and Beerus (right) having a meal.
Shin's fusion form, Kibito Kai
Click here for Beerus using his battle aura.
  • Votes: 4(Tropers/Excessive-Menace, Radio Contact Line, Nights Da Jester, Vengeful Bale)
  • Date of rework: 2 July (repost 30 June)
  • Note: Merger-rework
  • Hall: Introvert Flaws (House of Personality) Divine Behavior (House of Religion and Faith)
  • Overdeity (Beerus), Greater God (Shin)
  • Symbol: The Universe 7 symbol, with either a purple aura for Beerus or golden aura for Shin
  • Theme Song
  • Alignment: Lawful Good (Shin), Chaotic Neutral (Beerus)
  • Portfolio
  • Domains: Divinity, Duality, Incompetence, Power (both), Destruction, Dominating Forces, Food, Sloth (Beerus), Creation, Inexperience, Comparitive Youth (Shin)
  • Heralds: The Oracle Fish, his brother/Universe 6 counterpart Champa (Beerus), Kibito Kai, Old Supreme Kai (Shin)
  • Superior: Present and Future Zeno, the Grand Minister
  • Varying relationship with: Son Goku, Vegeta and their friends (Aloof Ally to Teeth-Clenched Teamwork with Beerus; Vegeta is training under him, allies to Headbutting Heroes at worst with Shin), The other Universe 7 Supreme Kais, Chronoa, Ace (allies outright with Shin, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork with Beerus), Fat Majin Buu (on poor terms with Beerus, on good termsnote  with Shin), Frieza (on poor terms with Beerus, opposed by Shin), Cosmos, The Valar (allies with Shin, on working relationship with Beerusnote ), Ahura Mazda (also allies with Shin, complicated opinion with Beerus), Angra Mainyu (enemies with Shin, annoys Beerus), Mar Novu/the Monitor (allies with Shin, Headbutting Heroes with Beerus)
  • Interested in: The Asteromorphs, The Xeelee (Shin)
  • Allies
  • On good terms with: Xerneas and Yveltal (both), Amara, Bastet (Beerus), Skurd (Shin)
  • On speaking terms with: Clockwork, Chronos, Dialga (both), Tom the Cat (Beerus)
  • Odd Friendship with: The Flying Spaghetti Monster (both, more so Shin)
  • Headbutting Heroes with: The Doctor (Shin)
  • Teeth-Clenched Teamwork with: Each other
  • Rivals: Sailor Galaxia (Beerus)
  • Arch-Enemy: Babidi and Majin Buu (Shin; also seen as enemies by Beerus)
  • Enemies
  • Opposed by: The Hall of Mesozoic Beasts (Beerus)
  • Annoyed by: Equinox (both), Hotaru Tomoe/Sailor Saturn, Jerry the Mouse (Beerus)
  • Disrespected by: Grigori/the Dragon (Beerus)
  • Wary of: The House of Time and Temporality in general (both)
  • Difficult relationship with: Kratos (both)
  • Drinking buddies with: God (God, the Devil and Bob) (Shin)
  • When there is creation, there is also destruction. In the twelve universes of the Dragon Ball Multiverse, each requires a God of Destruction for the Gods of Creation. They are life linked so if one dies, the other does to. The God of Destruction, or Hakaishin is meant to be the strongest fighter in their universe, a chosen warrior that is meant to remove planets and races that would lower the overall quality of their universe. The God of Creation is an assigned Supreme Kai/Kaioshin, sometimes multiple, who's job is to create worlds and life, trying not to interfere in mortal development unless necessary. They are born from a golden fruit in the Demon Realm, and are a race also known as the Glind. All universes have an average mortal level denoting quality of life, with Universe 1 as the best out of the bunch. Universe 7...has the thirdnote  lowest average mortal level. This is because Beerus, God of Destruction is a petty and lazy god more likely to judge a planet for its food and punish it for some dumb slight than more legitimate reasons. Shin is an Incompletely Trained young Kaioshin out of the loop of many of the roles of his job because the other Supreme Kais were murdered by Majin Buu, who Beerus should've taken care of himself. Still, Universe 7 looks good compared to Universe 9.
  • Applies to both
    • Beerus ascended to the pantheon with quite a reputation, not only being the first "Z" movie villain to a) not actually be evil, more "polythesim petty" and b) being someone Goku couldn't defeat, even if his newfound Super Saiyan God boost. He was fine getting his due respect from the Earthlings but threatened to destroy the Earth after Buu stole his pudding, and after getting a good enough fight from Goku decided to limit the destruction of the Earth to a harmless, tiny piece of it. Since there is a balance with creation and destruction, he was initially seen as a good fit for the Balance Between Good and Evil. However it was a bit more complicated than so he fell out of that trope. Some other tropes were proposed, from Destroyer Deity, to The Gods Must Be Lazy since in hindsight he may be a badass, but he is not good at his job. Ultimately an arrangement was made by his bosses, the Omni-Kings and the Grand Minister, to share a profile with his counterpart Shin, settling on God Is Inept. Think of it as getting the latter a wake-up call to improve, and the former...well that, but also an ego check. Shin definitely knows Beerus could need it.
      • From an out-of-universe perspective, Shin showed up first, having shown up to deal with the threat of Babidi and Majin Buu. He made the mistake of both overestimating himself and Babidi, and underestimating the Saiyans, however he was also quite practical and understandably bothered by their Blood Knight tendencies making things difficult. In Future Trunks' timeline, he had the no-nonsense Future Trunks to stop Buu from being awakened...unfortunately he died in the conflict. Over time Beerus has gone from a Friendly Enemy of sorts to an eventual ally, if an aloof one. Currently he is training Vegeta in the way of the destroyer, leading to his Ultra Ego transformation, while Goku is being trained to master the Ultra Instinct transformation by Whis. Speaking of Buu, Shin pointed out Beerus should've been involved, which he now begrudgingly admits when he realized that the life link meant he was in very real danger from "those obnoxious potato-headed wizards".
      • They do not get along, Shin being both intimidated by Beerus given his reputation and overwhelming power, and Beerus seeing Shin as an immature deity who doesn't know what he's doing. Whis actually came to Shin's defense by reminded Beerus he has the excuse of his training being cut short from the other Kaioshins' deaths. Speaking of them, the East Kaioshin was escatic to see them revived again in the pantheon, due to of all people Zamasu...it's a long story, but the tl;dr of it is that he admried their past heroism and thought they would join him in his crusade against mortal life. They didn't. The Grand Supreme Kai has made sure to chastise the cat and his poor working relationship with Shin, but also to give the youthful Kaioshin advice to be more proactive and try to explain things better. Also, on the matter of Zamasu, Beerus personally rendered his main timeline self Deader than Dead after he was found guilty, and made sure in the new Future timeline that Goku Black and Zamasu would be dealt with. Zamasu has pointed to both as testament to the gods' failing, only for Shin to shout back that in his attempts to tackle the problem he's become even worse than Majin Buu. That said, they begrudgingly admit they are both young Kaioshin who seek to do the right thing. The difference is that Zamasu's fastidiousness and inability to see himself in the wrong led to him so evil.
      • Generally Shin is an ally of the Dragon team, and Beerus is on decent enough terms with them even if he is not obliged to help them out. Some of the Dragon team like Goku are close enough that he revealed to them his birth name, Nahare. For example he doesn't need to intervene with Frieza, though back in the day he also got Frieza to do some of his destruction work. However Frieza took a kick out of it he found distasteful and he considered just offing the tyrant when he woke up, though Frieza was dead at the time. He is one of few beings Frieza fears...well feared, since during the Tournament of Power he didn't demonstrate much in the way of fear of him. While disgusted by his actions, Shin didn't intervene because he is limited in what he should interfere with...though higher-ranked universes shows there's a balance between hands-on and hands-off that needs to be made.
      • Chronoa initially feared Beerus, though with more "divine upper management" this fear isn't as high. Generally they have a working relationship with her, though only Shin is allies outright with her and Ace. The cat's still quite rough around the edges. She has managed to make an arrangement of sorts with other gods of time, pleasing both parties knowing such a force is in responsible hands.
    • Beyond just being gods in the Trope Pantheon context, their status as very literal gods shows. As such, they often talk to other literal gods, though it's mostly Shin as Beerus is off either training or doing something lazy or goofy. Cosmos, goddess of good and head of the Grand United Alliance of Good, has convinced both of them to at least be friendly with their cause. Beerus pointed out that as a God of Destruction he is Above Good and Evil, however he prefers them over the Grand United Alliance of Evil (or other alliances) because they're the most civil and that's where people he likes along with the Dragon team are aligned to. Shin just wants to do his best. The cat has come to like them a bit more because he really enjoys wrestling matches with Tulkas, though both claim they are only using a fraction of their power so nobody knows who is winning. It's thought he might be training because he had heard Whis talk about Sailor Saturn as a potential understudy of destruction, and he'll be damned before he ever considers her as a successor.
    • Ideally they are meant to function as a Creation/Destruction Juxtaposition, and their lives are linked; without creation, there can be no destruction. Oh and yes, Batman has considered this as part of his contingency, though exploiting it non-lethally as a way to keep Beerus behaving is the real difficulty for him. In most universes, this helps encourage the Destroyer and Supreme Kai to get along. The dynamic is considerably less hostile to one and the other than the Firebird and Spring Sprite, though also a necessity. Despite the arguments that break out between the two, they know not to be outright hostile, even without the life link. Their relationship isn't like Ahura Mazda and Angra Mainyu, who's "balance" is merely two equal forces who hate each other's guts. The God of Good finds Beerus a difficult person to get around and wishes Shin complete his training thanks to the Trope Pantheon. Angra Mainyu is dissapointed that Beerus isn't evil, but the cat sees him for the pathetic loser he truly is. He may be a Destroyer Deity, but he doesn't like those who destroy for the fun of it. The duo have agreed to oppose the GUAD, the destroyer god musing "they're a bunch of prattling nihilists who wouldn't know what to do with themselves if they won".
    • Barbatos has mocked both of them, calling Shin "a fool who's doomed countless lives due to his lack of intuition" and Beerus "a petty god who'd have Universe 7 at his throats if he weren't a god". When Beerus pointed out he has betrayed everything he was supposed to stand for, Barbatos flatly admitted it, but that he doesn't try to play it like he's some necessary evil, boasting "there are so many worlds in the Dark Multiverse born from your actions". The Anti-Monitor, at the rare occasions where he's bothered to voice his opinion, has called them "woefully inexperienced and woefully underqualified". Beerus can't even beat that point out of them. Though far worse destroyers, a lot of the GUAG thinks they're valid points, though they usually voice these complaints a lot more politely. Both of them have a contested relationship with Kratos as he is trying to reform and be a better person and god, and he would rather see them improve, while Shin sees this as a "Hypocrite Has a Point" situation and both have a hard time trusting him. At the least, he is far from the deicidal Gorr, who sees all gods as deserving as death, pointing to both of them showing how ineptitude can prove as bad as malice. Of course, its Beerus he hates the most of the two.
    • The Monitor doesn't see his evil brother in the cat, though he does see someone who needs a real attitude adjustment. After some talking with Whis, Mar Novu proposed that they could communicate with him about their universes and various other matters relevant to their cosmic vocations, seeing as how his job of monitoring the multiverse means creation and destruction are things he should keep a better track of things. Beerus suspects he wants "a good guy version of Mobius", and he's mainly going along because he's a convenient ally and it might improve his standing in the pantheon. Shin is more of an active ally of Mar Novu, but his travels in the DC Multiverse are limited by his responsibilities in Universe 7. On a side note, both were shocked by the insightful commentary by Bender, namely he's learned from personal experience if you do too much they become reliant on you, and if you do nothing it ends badly. As the Galactic Entity pointed out to them, you need a light touch. However, it's also worth noting that he hadn't had a beer in a while and was borderline sober at the time.
    • Neither Beerus nor Shin are fond of Chakravartin for thinking he can "game the system", and has caused immense suffering for "a self-righteous plan right out of Zamasu's playbook". Neither are fond of YHVH, especially Shin. Kronika sees Beerus and Shin as interesting entities, similar in some ways to her children, but they see her as testament to why time travel is such a taboo, and they consider her some sort evil Whis, and debate on whether Perpetua is somehow even worse than her. Speaking of the Time Travel Taboo, due to the way the rules of time work in the pantheon and how different the ruling on time travel is, Beerus and Shin have begrudgingly accepted the set-up. But whenever the Diabolical Time Breakers are planning something, expect them to get involved. Well, more so Shin than anything. While Shin is somewhat distrustful of the Doctor due to being a consummate time traveler and one who breaks the rules from time to time, and the Doctor seeing Shin as rather inexperienced and out of his depth on a number of occasions, they are ultimately allies.
  • Applies to Beerus
    • Of his past tropes, it is Destroyer Deity he took the most pride in. How strong he is compared to the other destroyers isn't clear too much, and two Gods of Destruction fighting threatens to break apart the universe they are in. Beerus isn't popular with them because many years ago, Zeno hosted a hide-and-seek tournament, and Beerus hid so well he fell asleep for fifty years. The Omni-King was so angry the other Gods of Destruction were almost erased before they calmed him down. Knowing this, he has decided the best course of actions is to keep a generally cordial relationship with other destroyers in the pantheon, unless he sees reason to throw hands. He does throw hands with Asura, however that's because the two want to enjoy a formiddable adversary, so it's more a Friendly Rivalry. His and the other Destroyer Gods' signature is Hakai, an energy of pure destruction that can be resisted, but when properly used it completely annihilates something. It doesn't just kill, but wipe out the target's soul. Ghosts aren't immune. Gag characters aren't immune. Immortals are or at least resist it, though, which is why he had a sealing in mind for Future Zamasu. Judge Doom is excited at it because he can use Hakai to kill toons even more effectively than the Dip...or more like that's what he thinks, as Beerus has intention of playing into his homicidal goals.
    • Once you get to know him, Beerus is a polite, friendly and likable Manchild who can become friends with you, and acts like the lazy, affectionate, fun-loving overgrown cat that readily joins in the food, song, laughter and dance (yes, he lets loose some truly funky breakdance moves) instead of the God that he should be. He really likes Earth's food, as does his attendant Whis, and he believes it has the best food in all the universe. In fact, when Universe 7 won the competition against Universe 6, he used the Super Dragonballs to restore the Universe 6 Earth so his brother could enjoy the delicious food there. Publically he'll deny this and say he just wished for a comfy bed, since he has an intense rivalry with his twin brother. Sometimes this love of food can get in the way of his judgement; he initially ignored Wiz and Boomstick's desire for him to fight Sailor Galaxia. He found himself in an Expendable Alternate Universe where the alternate, pre-redemption Galaxia head to Earth to destroy it...and worse for him, his ice cream. The two engaged in an epic battle and at the end of the day, Beerus avenged his treat. Now he kind of wants to test the redeemed prime counterpart as a fighter.
    • Much to the shock of the rest of the Pantheon, he gets along famously with the kind-hearted Madoka Kaname herself. Madoka's Herculean feat of not only destroying an entire universe wracked by grief and despair, but rebuilding a kinder and gentler place over it quite certifiably earned Beerus' respect; not to mention the fact that he really enjoys the affectionate chin-scratches that Madoka readily gives him and the delicious Afternoon-Tea Parties her mentor Tomoe Mami holds every Thursday Afternoon. At one particular Tea Party, he has struck off a Friendly Rivalry with Kyouko Sakura, who swears she will not stop practicing until she can beat his funky breakdance-moves in Dance Dance Revolution. * Beerus absolutely detests the little bitch known as Kyubey. Not only does it insist on preserving a universe of sadness by destroying hope and creating despair; but more importantly, it made his beloved friend Madoka cry. To his frustration, no matter how many of the little fuckers he vaporizes, there will ALWAYS be more of them. Also, he thinks their methods of counter-acting entropy "is as backhanded and self-serving as Zamasu's lunacy".
    • Beerus' antagonistic role is not because he is evil personally. Oh sure, destroying planets is bad from a mortal perspective, but consider the cosmic equilibrium maintained by it. No, this antagonistic trait is a petty capriciousness and retribution for small slights. Sometimes he restrains himself, like smacking Bulma for insulting him instead of just turning her into a smear. But making King Vegeta a footstall for stealing your comfy pillow? Letting Frieza do his "blow up Planet Vegeta" plan due to how you were disrespected? Oh, he also wiped out the dinosaurs for being pretty rude to him...and he half-assed it since dinosaurs are still around in the Dragon Ball universe. Never expect him to have a warm welcome in the Hall of Mesozoic Beasts. Ever wonder why King Kai lives on such a small planet? Beerus and King Kai played a car racing video game together and Beerus lost, and being the sort of person he is, he destroyed the planet in a fit of rage at losing. King Kai then took a large leftover fragment, whittled it down to a sphere, and built a road on it so that he could have fun driving there. This became King Kai's current planet. Beerus has since been advised by many to NEVER play Call of Duty.
    • A lot of his behavior can be explained by the fact that yes, he's a a cat. In fact, he was based off Toriyama's cat, who was quite hardly and lived a particularly long life. Alphonse and Sakaki both became fans of his because he's a powerful cat god and they both love cats. He's cool with both of them, especially Al. However, he's not keen on Al thinking he needs his protection, so he made sure to show off his destructive power in front of the alchemist once. (Whis reversed the damage, of course). It's not surprising to hear that he and Garfield get along, as while Garfield has Champa's physique he has both of their laziness. He's usually on his best behavior when he's visiting the Hall of Felines even if he doesn't overly associate with them. As a feline god with an Egyptian theme, Beerus is on good terms with Bastet, noting "she sure knows how to throw a party". Beerus lacks any Animal Jingoism towards the Hall of Canines, or Rabbits and Rodents. That said if there's one rodent he's annoyed by it's Jerry, and only because he is reminded of his hated rival, the Universe 4 destroyer Quitela. Of course he knows Jerry isn't as nasty, but he's still kind of annoyed. He roots for Tom, by the way.
    • It may surprise you to here, but yes, Beerus was once mortal. All Gods of Destruction start as mortal, rather than being born into divinity. How strong he was as a mortal compared to how he is now is unknown, though one imagines he was not as powerful as Sutekh the Destroyer started as...seeing as how he is an Omnicidal Maniac, now self-styled god of death who in his debut appearance not even the Time Lords could stop if he were ever to be freed, it is a reasonable assumption. And with his apotheosis, Sutekh is one of few beings Beerus fears. There is one supposed destroyer that Beerus seeks to learn more rather than fight or trying to eliminate; the Dragon/Grigori, a human-turned-dragon in service to the god-like Seneschal whose job is to find worthy people to kill him, has guise of him being an apocalyptic beast sent to destroy the world. Grigori, who was forced into the position, is annoyed by Beerus as someone who must have worked for and chosen his godly role, only to be a lazy and petty destroyer who is a large factor behind his universe being one of the on-average worst of out of the twelve, at best third from the bottom. He doesn't disrespect Shin as much since he at least understands it was something he was "forcibly promoted" into.
  • Applies to Shin
    • Though far weaker than Beerus, Shin is no slouch in a fighter, and would've been able to wipe out Frieza and King Cold in one blow...at least until the former had his training arc. Like all Glinds he is originally from the Demon Realm, which despite what was initially thought isn't so much a realm of evil as it is smaller universe that predates the existence of the multiverse, and who many of their species migrated to the 18 (now 12) universes that Dabura's grandfather comissioned the creator god Rymus to make. Rymus looks a lot like Zen'o, but what their connection is hasn't been revealed. Shin has an ambitious brother called Degesu in the Demon Realm though he is currently serving a 99-year prison sentence. His sister Arinsu is acting as the current leader of the Demon Realm. As a creator deity, he has a not too dissimilar job from Aurelion Sol, a draconic deity who crafts stars and suns. Though the Kaioshin thinks he's arrogant and the dragon sees him as inexperienced, he will be will too willing to teach him more secrets of the cosmos.
    • Universe 7 is quite unpopulated, and while few buy his "28 planets" explanation most see it as an acknowledgement there needs to be more creation afoot. He has sought out the Life Entity to better get a grasp at creation, and the Spring Sprite for mending. Due to his failures at trying to stop Majin Buu and being somewhat of a Failure Hero himself, he is sympathetic towards Aichi Sendou. Him and God known by Bob get along as the two are flawed but fundamentally good deities, though feels he could learn more from him than the other way around. The Flying Spaghetti Monster is sympathetic towards him because he can understand divine incompetence, having made mistakes like causing the Great Flood due to messing up making pasta. Shin finds him hard to take seriously but fun to be around and good bartender whenever he needs a drink. As Beerus is quite fond of the FSM's pasta, meeting up with the strange god has become a team building exercise.
    • The Valar see him Shin akin to that of a youthful Maiar, one they see to tutor alongside his revived comrades in hopes of improving the average mortal rank of Universe 7. Beerus has warmed up to this, though with somewhat of a bribe that he and Tulkas get to test their strength against each other more often. Tulkas thinks that's an easy choice to make. Like Kaioshins the Valar try not to interfere too much outside of the big things, mainly because of how powerful they are making more direct interference disruptive. Zamasu isn't wrong that the gods should interfere more, however asides from a lot of other flaws, getting too involved can be a problem in itself. This is where Uatu felt to voice his opinion. He is from a race meant to watch, as a result of their past interference causing a civilization to destroy itself. He keeps to that neutrality, but interferes enough to be seen as a maverick by his people. Shin respects Uatu as someone who has found a good balance in his work and he thinks the other Kaioshins could do with meeting up with the Watchers.
    • Shin might be less good at his job than Beerus, however the more reasonable deities will give him less slack by virtue of the fact he wasn't there by choice and was Incompletely Trained. In terms of situations, it's similar to Hot Rod, who was hoisted to lead the Autobots after the death of Optimus Prime and who's been given mixed reviews for it. They're naturally empathetic to one another, with Shin noting that Eyre is going to be so jealous he got to befriend a Transformer. Hot Rod is one of a handful of people he's fine being called by his true name, Nahare. His revived comrades suggested the East Kaioshin could do conversing with the gods in the Hall of Successors, and while he avoids the evil residents he normally gets along with the people there. He's not happy that Copy X is part of the hall, seeing him as this childish Zamasu-ish (except not as villainous) type who's a disgrace to the Replod he's based on.
    • Has been trying to learn from the more experienced gods, in hopes of one day living up to the standards of the Supreme Kais governing universes with a higher average mortal level than 7. As such he looks to Highfather and Ra. With the former he is said to be everything a leader should in stark contrast to Darkseid though he has grabbed the Jerkass Ball once in a while. With the latter it's because Ra's a competent Top God and defender against monstrous forces like Apophis. Ra has told him that perhaps he should find the right balance between not being totally uninvolved and not getting too involved. The Grand Supreme Kai suggested he should consider advanced mortal life. Seeing the technology the Xeelee had access to...well it made his jaw drop, and he's glad to see despite how aloof they are they're ultimately benevolent, trying to make a getaway so life can escape from the Photino Birds.
    • In part out of frustration for his revival of the other Kaioshins failing to get him allies after they realized what he's done, Zamasu tried to tempt Shin into being more in line with his line of thinking, as the East Kaioshin begrudingly sees him as his Evil Counterpart. As Shin was researching advanced mortals, he pointed to the Qu and all their horrors they inflicted on the galaxy. Even Beerus saw what the Qu did as something vile, and it kind of brings up the point that some worlds need to be destroyed. However Shin refused to buy into the "all mortals are bastards" speech, and Beerus showed to force a tactical retreat by Zamasu. On the flip side, the young Supreme Kai is interested in the Asteromorphs and how they've developed. He's hoping that down the line he can get a handle on helping new worlds develop. He is on good terms with Skurd, as the blob's role of seeding worlds with life works marvelously with a Kaioshin's role.

Edited by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 on Jun 29th 2025 at 9:22:49 PM

ReconDecon Playing it safe from Buffalo, New York Since: Aug, 2023 Relationship Status: On the prowl
Playing it safe
#218215: Jun 29th 2025 at 2:51:16 PM

@Camilla, I haven't played the Cluefinders video games in years, but I do remember a few of their past adventures. They would probably be allies with Miss Frizzle, as they would remind her of her students.

  • 3rd Grade: They travelled to the rainforest to investigate the disappearance of Joni's Uncle Horace.
  • Math Adventures: I played this game at my brother's friend's house, and the gang travelled to the Himalayas to investigate stolen treasures.

https://cluefinders.fandom.com/wiki/Category:Games

Edited by ReconDecon on Jun 29th 2025 at 5:54:28 AM

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RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#218216: Jun 29th 2025 at 3:08:09 PM

Character Impacts has been established, as have the Babidi and Beerus and Shin reworks. The Gods Must Be Lazy has been freed up

Anything I am missing from this idea?

Edited by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 on Jun 29th 2025 at 10:44:29 PM

Karkat_Kitsune Master of Nero from Earth C Since: Jun, 2018 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Master of Nero
#218217: Jun 29th 2025 at 4:27:45 PM

I am giving permission to user who added the inflammatory comment icon to the Shinza Banshou character profiles I created to rewrite them. They shouldn't change Ren Fujii's relationships with Shirou Emiya, Ushiromiya Battler, and Shiki Tohno more than necessary, we don't need to reignite Nasuverse/Shinza Banshou drama.

Karkat Kitsune
Camilla What do you mean I'm not declared insane? Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Norwegian Wood
What do you mean I'm not declared insane?
#218218: Jun 29th 2025 at 4:52:43 PM

First draft of Todd Capybara. Any evil dentists or those who are afraid of copying his powers? Or are there any boy/girl scouts I'm missing?

Also I wanted to give him a secondary house of lemonade since that's a signature of him (and his Power-Up Food if he has to get dangerous)

Edit: I think I have Todd in the bag. Looking for thumbs!

Thumbs Mode

Todd Capybara, God of Friendly Capybaras and Lemonade

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  • Potential Houses: Beasts and Fauna, Hall of Rabbits and Rodents and Food, Hall of Meals (A to M)
  • Demigod (Lesser God if he gets into his Lemon Rush mode)
  • Symbol: A glass of lemonade
  • Alignment: Neutral Good
  • Portfolio: Chill Capybara, Friend to All Living Things, Hair of Gold, Heart of Gold, Nice Guy but is NOT a pushover, his Lemonade Especial grants him a super mode, knows the history of ninjutsu and and has the mastery of a blacksmith, capable of commanding animals if you REALLY piss him off
  • Domains: Capybaras, Mutants, Kindness, Lemonade, Animals, Wilderness Survival, Blacksmithing
  • Allies: The Good-aligned Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles deities, the good-aligned deities in the House of Beasts and Fauna (particularly canines) as well as good-aligned Pokémon deities, Fluttershy, Rein Shroud, good-aligned Ninja, Kirby, Kronk
  • Enemies: Anyone who attempts to hurt his allies, particularly Oroku Saki, poachers like Hunter J and Ghestis Harmonia, evil Ninja, Orin Scrivello, Yzma, those that would hurt canines/animals (particularly Shou Tucker, Cruella de Vil and especially Dio Brando)
  • Sympathetic to: N, Odio
  • Odd Friendship: Blacksmith deities, Team Rocket's Meowth
  • Todd Capybara is a kind and friendly mutant who is an ally to the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. He ends up as a friend to the group, helping them out in many activities (whether it's teaching them how to survive the wilderness, crafting up serviceable replacement ninja weapons, or just handing out freshly squeezed lemonade) to the point that when the House of Beasts had trouble figuring out a representative for Chill Capybara, the Turtles decided to repay his kindness by recommending him for the seat. The Court of the Gods read through his profile and found something interesting: his kindness is his actual mutant power to the point that any deity with a Power Copying ability will inherit his nicety as well. That, and the Turtles were giving the court some of Todd's lemonade. With this, Todd was given a seal of approval along with a pizza party and lemonade with his new friends. As an added bonus the Turtles were able to get him a second temple in the House of Food, to which Todd celebrated with free samples of his lemonade.
  • Todd was given a seat in the Rats and Rodents since it turns out that capybaras are essentially large rodents. Bugs Bunny tried to get the best of him, but Todd takes it in stride, even making batches of carrot lemonade for his new neighbors. He was especially excited to learn that he's neighbors with Hamato Splinter, who has decided to give Todd some martial arts training on the side. Even Angel Bunny is capable of being civil with Todd due to his kindness. This is how Todd learned about Angel's mistress, Fluttershy, who instantly cooed and squeed at Angel having a new friend and invited him over for tea at her temple. Todd was amazed at how Fluttershy has her own animal sanctuary as it reminds him of how he met Mikey and Donnie when they built him a puppy shelter. He's also one of the only few deities to get on Discord's nice list as well, and is in fact curious of the strange and chaotic physics in Discord's temples.
  • Contrary to what deities believe, Todd has a furnace in his temple where he does blacksmithing on the side. He's gained a kinship with fellow blacksmiths, but ended up being collaborators with Rodin. Todd admits that working with demon souls is a challenge, but nothing that determination and lemonade won't fix. Rodin has even decided to mix some new drinks with Todd's special lemonade at the Gates of Hell, took a sip of it, and muttered "Beautiful" at the taste. The likes of Bayonetta and Jeanne like to ask for spare guns if Rodin happens to be busy, Luka has asked for a new grappling hook upgrade once or twice, even Dante trusts Todd with repairing Ebony and Ivory. He's also a collaborator with good-aligned ninja deities, and is willing to fix their weapons up free of charge while also being a lecturer about the history of ninjutsu on the side.
  • Todd's lemonade isn't just for show. It turns out he also has a special lemonade called "Lemonade Especial" that, when consumed, grants him what is gracefully called a "Capybara Super Saiyan" mode. Should he drink, it allows him to break the earth, levitate and control all animals within a certain vicinity to maul the opponent. Gods are terrified of the day they push Todd too far as they have no idea if he can command the likes of Godzilla or the rest of the kaiju with his powers, though the DragonBall deities are curious as to how or why he has a special lemonade with that type of ability. Todd shrugged his shoulders and muttered, "Well there are some things that are better left unsaid." He ended up being friends with Popeye due to him having his own Power-Up Food. Deities are now afraid of the day Todd ends up perfecting a recipe for "Lemonade Spinach Especial."
  • Todd grew curious about the Pokémon deities and has gone to befriend them with a mostly 100% success rate. He's still trying to master the Pokémon language, though, but was glad to learn that there was a Pokémon who could act as a translator in Team Rocket's Meowth. Meowth was somewhat flustered at how Todd just approached him with lemonade, but ended up liking the companionship to the point that he refused to join Jesse and James' scheme to steal the recipe for the Lemonade Especial stating that that was too low even for him. Meowth also gave Todd a warning that the likes of Hunter J, Ghestis and especially Lysandre were to be avoided due to their cruelty towards animals. Todd thanked him in advance and told them that the three would have to be idiots to try to fight him, given he has friends in low places. That said, he was wary of the dual gods of Scyther and Lurantis as both of them reminded him of Repo Mantis trying to repossess his mobile home, but eventually realized that they were friendly mantids who appreciate his company. Same can't be said for Zorak, though. He's tried befriending him, but Zorak's jerk attitude doesn't mesh well with Todd's nicety.
  • Aside from being a Friend to All Living Things, Todd is capable of talking to animals and knows plenty about survival training. He ended up becoming a mentor for scouts like Russel, Lazlo, Raj, and Clam, and the Cutie Mark Crusaders. Even Jade Chan, a member of the Buttercup Scouts in her world and one who is capable of knocking baddies on her own, admits that having lessons from him is pretty cool. He's teamed up with Kronk, as he's also a scout leader and a Nice Guy who can speak to squirrels, along with being an excellent chef. The two of them like to collaborate in giving hot meals to hungry deities. This also means that Todd has beef with Yzma who insulted Kronk for hating his spinach puffs (though the worst he does is state that she's a "sad sack of nothing" but keeps an eye out over her original plans to summon an everlasting night). He gained a friendship with Kuzco who admitted that Todd's lemonade was "not bad".
  • Bill Cipher decided to pull a prank on Grunkle Stan when Todd decided to deliver lemonade to him by transforming him into Grunkle Stan's Sitcom Arch-Nemesis Lil' Gideon Gleeful (due to both of them coincidentally sounding similar). Grunkle Stan was suspicious of "Gideon" cheerfully approaching him with lemonade and asked how he got into the Pantheon. "Gideon" gave a recounting of his tale before Grunkle Stan had a wonderfully evil idea. Some time later, Bill Cipher opened the door to find "Gideon" drinking a glass of lemonade and riding on the back of Rampardos stating he had a "special delivery" to the one-eyed triangle. When asked what was going on,
    Grunkle Stan: You really thought disguising this guy was going to trick me? I told him that I had a friend who needed a bit of redecorating and lemonade on the side and he's going to be staying for quite some time.
    Todd: I have such lovely ideas for you. A bit of positive reinforcement posters, some scented candles, oh and a couple of puppies will do the trick!
    Bill Cipher: (unintelligible screeches of rage)
  • Aside from Oroku Saki, there is one deity who makes Todd's blood boil. And that is Orin Scrivello, a depraved dentist who has killed children and animals, reminding him of the depraved dentists who wanted to hunt Todd down for his teeth. Orin, for his part, knows that he's not going to win any awards if he tries to go after Todd. Not only does Todd have skills with animals, the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles will take him down if he even tries to put a drill in Todd's face. Orin tried to make an excuse in Todd's lemonade consumption rotting his teeth, only for Todd to reply that not only does his lemonade have less sugar than conventional brands, he always makes sure to brush his teeth.
  • On his downtime, Todd likes to visit the Hall of Canines and play with the deities there. He's hoping to remodel the Hall to become a huge puppy shelter for those in need. He pities John Wick's rampage over losing his beloved beagle, Daisy, and ends up being a caretaker for his black pug herald when John is on duty. Despite his kindness, even he has nothing to say about those who would harm dogs: Shou Tucker's "alchemy" made him throw up, he made sure to put Cruella de Vil in her place when she requested to skin him for a new hat, and he was grumbling under his breath over what Dio Brando did to Jonathan Joestar's dog.

Edited by Camilla on Jun 29th 2025 at 6:18:39 AM

Note to self: Never bet on Entei.
Excessive-Menace Time to SLEEP from the Velvet Cage (Fifth Year at Tropey's) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
Time to SLEEP
#218219: Jun 29th 2025 at 4:57:01 PM

[up] Orin Scrivello is an evil dentist who enjoys causing pain to his patients.

SING TO ME, LEND ME THE SONG OF BLASPHEMY
NightsDaJester Daydreamer extraordinaire from Nightopia (Troper Youngling) Relationship Status: Abstaining
Daydreamer extraordinaire
#218220: Jun 29th 2025 at 5:07:08 PM

[up][up] Lazlo, Raj, and Clam are a trio of boy scouts. Kronk has also done some work as a scout leader. Popeye can greatly rise in power thanks to his spinach.

Edited by NightsDaJester on Jun 29th 2025 at 8:07:26 AM

"The part I feel most proud of is that we succeeded in affecting people without using words."— Yuji Naka
Mattman_the_Storyteller Since: Aug, 2018
#218221: Jun 29th 2025 at 6:32:55 PM

Posting for feedback and suggestions.

Edit: Done


  • For the Heroes of Light, maybe some people who try to take on everyone's burdens themselves and not rely on others to themselves like Gloria didnote . For Adelle, anyone who blames themself for the atrocities of someone elsenote ?

Madason and Bianca Whitaker, Divine Game-Desired Couple
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Top-to-Bottom: Madason and Bianca as children and adults
  • Lesser Gods
  • Symbol: The Circle of Water
  • Theme Music: Vows of Marriage
  • Alignment: Neutral Good
  • Profile: Developers' Desired Date, Action Parents, The Beastmaster, Happily Married
  • Domains: Love, Beasts, Parenthood, Family
  • Herald: Pankraz and Madalena (Madason's parents), Parry and Madchen (Madason and Bianca's children)
  • Allies:
  • Enemies:
  • Opposes: Prince Charmles
  • Madason and Bianca were childhood friends who once worked together to investigate the haunted Uptaten Towers and banish the Haunted Housekeeper to allow the souls of the dead to rest in peace. They would meet again in their adulthood when Madason is seeking the Circle of Fire and Water Rings as part of a test to become a suitable suitor to Nera. However, Madason chooses to marry Bianca, with Nera giving her blessing to the two before they go to Gotha the King and Queen of Madason's homeland. Bianca would give birth to Madason's twin children, Parry and Madchen, before the couple get separated and petrified. Madason's children would find and save their father years later before the three of them would find and Bianca as well. The family would travel to Nadiria to save Madason's mother, but after Nimzo kills her, the family of four would defeat Nimzo and save the world, returning to Gotha to celebrate.
  • The Court of the Gods would review the couples' case, noting how there were timelines where Madason had married Nera or Debora, but the most favorable timeline appears to be Madason's marriage to Bianca. The gods note how there seems to be a lot of favoritism for Madason's relationship with Bianca and decide to ascend the couple, with the two accepting the position offered to them. Madason learns of the timelines where he didn't marry Bianca, and while he admits that he may have considered marrying Nera or Debora at one point, he is still adamant about his choice to marry Bianca.
  • The married couple would cross paths with Alm and Celica, both of whom are childhood friends that became lovers. Although Bianca married into royalty while Alm and Celica were royals themselves, even if Alm didn't know he was a prince initially. The two couples found commonality in each other in how they had to separate from their significant other before finally reuniting.
  • They empathize with couples who are unable to be there for their children due to outside circumstances beyond their control. Minato and Kushina had to sacrifice their lives to save the newborn Naruto, but they did leave some of their chakra behind so they can talk to Naruto in the future, and Minato does get to meet Naruto after the former is summoned by Edo Tensei. James Potter was sold out by Peter Petigrew and dies trying to save Lily and Harry from Voldemort, only able to talk to Harry 17 years later when he was summoned by the Resurrection Stone.
  • King Graham and Queen Valanice are royals who are a Happily Married couple and parents of the Graham family, with the former being a knight who proved himself worthy of the crown. Their children were kidnapped, and they had to suffer the hardships of not being there for them. They get along with Madasan and Bianca well because of that, with the two couples sharing stories about their adventures when go to meet each other.
  • The two once crossed paths with Rama and Sita, the former whom also underwent an Engagement Challenge to marry Sita. However, after going through so many challenges in their marriage and even being separated, the two eventually lost their lives in stark contrast to Madason and Bianca's happy ending, something that horrifies and saddens the two. Madason and Bianaca also crossed paths with Princess Kaguya, who gave impossible tasks to unwanted suitors in the hopes of avoiding marriage. The couple felt horrible over how Kaguya was treated throughout her life and eventually was taken by to the moon against her will, with Madason and Bianca noting that having a life forced on you is something they can't stand.
  • They would sympathize with Kiritsugu Emiya after hearing of how he was separated from his daughter and unable to see her dye to her family forbiding him from meeting her and his weakening mana prevented him from breaching her home's magical barrier. For a long time, Illya thought that he abandoned her and resented him for not coming back. Since their children were told about how they're parents were abducted and remained loyal to them, they shudder to think about what could happen if Kiritsugu's situation applied to them instead.
  • Crono's Party and George Beard & Harold Hutchins both had a history of traveling through time to save something or someone that was destroyed, just like how Madason saved the Gold Orb from destruction by replacing it with a fake in the past. Crono's Party are able to save Crono from being killed by Lavos via replacing him with a fake doll, while George and Harold retrieved the Combine-O-Tron 2000 in the past and replaced it with a fake. They all shared such interesting stories with each other.
  • Having fought against Galeem and Dharkon during the World of Light event, Madason takes it personally when he finds out that the two are in the Pantheon. He has joined up with Link to fight against the Puppet Fighters the Galeem and Dharkon use to fight them alongside other Dragon Quest heroes. He promises to help his allies finish Galeem and Dharkon and ensure they can never threaten existence again.

The Heroes of Lightmembers, Gods of Elemental Motifs
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Left to right: Adelle, Elvis, Seth, Gloria
  • Lesser Gods
  • Symbol: Their respective Elemental Crystals
  • Theme Music:
  • Alignment: Neutral Good for Seth, Elvis, and Adelle; Lawful Good for Gloria
  • Profile: Badass Crew, The Chosen Many, Elemental Motifs, Four-Temperament Ensemble, Moveset Clone, Seth and Elvis lose Gloria and Adelle in possible futures, True Companions
  • Domains: Elements, Chosen Heroes; Sailing, Wind(Seth); Princesses, Duty, Water(Gloria); Alcohol, Scholars, Earth (Elvis); Fairies, Mercenaries, Fire (Adelle)
  • Allies: The Heroes of Luxendarc, Final Fantasy heroes, The Heroes of New Alberia, The Greatwyrms, The Epic Battle Fantasy Team
  • Enemies: Airy, Ouroborus, The Devourer, Galeem and Dharkon
  • Complicated Relationship: Adeleine
  • Fears: Alice (Bibliomania), Arakune
  • The Heroes of Excilliant are a quartet of heroes consisting of Seth (a mysterious sailor who washed ashore), Gloria (a princess of the fallen kingdom of Muse), Elvis (a traveling scholar who likes to drink), and Adelle (a mercenary who is later revealed to be a fairy). Joining together to reclaim the 4 crystals from the Kingdom of Holograd and to collect the Asterisks needed to stop the Night's Nexus, the 4 companions each get chosen by one of the crystals as a well as their predecessor as a Hero of Light. After fighting Adam, leader of Holograd, and reclaiming the Wind Crystal, the party discover that Adam's advisor, Edna (who is revealed to Adelle's sister who once believed in humans, but now seeks their extermination), was using Adam to drain the crystals to break the seal on the Night's Nexus and wipe out all of humanity. After discovering two possible futures that either lead Gloria to sacrifice her life to temporarily seal the Night's Nexus or the fairies seal away the Night's Nexus by freezing their land in time with Adelle joining them, the party are able to find the means to end the Night's Nexus permeantly without sacrificing anyone.
  • The Court of the Gods reviewed their case and take interest in how they represent the elements of their respective crystals (Seth, like the wind, is flexible and going whichever way is needed of him at the moment; Gloria, like water, is ever graceful and elegant yet inexorable and determined in pursuit of her goal; Elvis, like the earth, is the most laidback and constant of the four; Adelle, like fire, is the most hot-blooded and outwardly emotional) and their relationships (Seth is a sailor of the seas guided by the wind, making him very close with Gloria; Elvis is a pyromaniac that tends to set things on fire, making him a perfect match for Adelle). The courts extended their invitation to the four and they accepted.
  • The heroes thought they crossed paths with Folie in the Pantheon, only to realize that the person standing before them is a completely different artist named Adeleine. Adeleine proves herself to be nothing like the Mad Artist Folie is, being quite friendly to everyone and willing to help with her artwork. Although the group is cautious, they are willing to give her the benefit of the doubt, especially when Gloria decides to join Adeliene in painting.
  • Considering how the Night's Nexus devoured knowledge and can even devour memories, the party are understandably opposed to anyone who can ingest knowledge without considering the consequences. This is why they consider Alice and Arakune to be big threats since their gluttony for knowledge led them to abandon their humanity and become dangerous Transhuman Abominations. They intend destroy Alice before she consumes all of humanity, while keeping an eye on Arakune to ensure he doesn't consume anyone else. The Devourer had also sought to delete people, worlds, and even memories of their existence, also opposing the player themselves for leading the EBF Party to ruin his simulations of perfect order and eventually kill the Devourer. The Heroes decide to team up with the EBF Party to stop the Devourer permanently.
  • Some of the Heroes of New Alberia got along well with the party. Adelle enjoyed speaking with Fairy Companion Notte, with the latter praising her for her actions during the journey and helping to save the world, while also praising Elvis for putting an end to the racial tensions between humans and fairies. Gloria would befriend Euden, an Alberian prince who was framed as a traitor against his former kingdom corrupted into the Dyrenell Empire but founded the nation of New Alberia. Both royals sympathized with the other over the loss of their kingdoms, but were glad that they found friends to help them.
  • The Greatwyrms were Elemental Dragons that test peoples' strength to determine if they're worthy. The Heroes were reminded of Gwydion and Gwilym, the draconic guardians of Rimedhal upon meeting them, with Gwydion even once facing them in battle. The Heroes agreed to battle them to test their strengths at times.
  • All four were turned into Spirits during the conflict against Galeem and Dhakron, so they naturally hold this against the two entities. Only this time, they can fight as they normally do instead of as Spirits. They swore that the two will never threaten existence again while they're still fighting.
  • Each of the party members found kinship with some deities over commonalities. In particular:
    • Seth:
      • Even though Monkey D. Luffy is technically a pirate, Seth still became quick friends since they're both seafarers. Both enjoy sharing their tales of their adventures out at sea, with Luffy telling Seth of his dream to become the Pirate King. Although Seth is no pirate, he does admire Luffy's dedication to this dream and promises to support him.
      • Eike was someone who died at the beginning of his tale like Seth and also came back to life. But whereas Seth was restored to life at the end of his journey, Eike ceased to exist after defeating Homunculus, though it's implied that he has been reincarnated. Both note how rough the other's life has been but praise the other for finally ending it and getting some kind of happy ending out of it.
    • Gloria:
      • Princess Zelda is a princess who is also actively helping to save the day, though in her case, she's done it multiple times through multiple incarnations. Zelda is also the bearer of the Triforce of Wisdom, though Gloria considers her a good person when compared to Innana, her aunt who became the Night's Nexus due to her insatiable greed for knowledge.
      • Ange is a Fallen Princess like Gloria, except it's because the people of her kingdom rejected her upon finding out that she's a Norma, non-magical people that suffered under heavy persecution. Gloria is shocked and disgusted by how quick her subjects were to turn on her, and then shamelessly demand her help when they lose the ability to use Mana. Ange shows sympathy for Gloria and admits that she at least still has a lot of people that remained loyal to her even after her kingdom was destroyed.
    • Elvis:
      • Tends to get along with fellow alcoholics Netzach, Cana Alberona and Drinky Crow, all of them drinking as a show of friendship. Elvis gets praised for putting using his love of drinking to break the fairies' racism towards humans and earning the friendship of the fairy Esmerelda, who beat him in a drinking contest. Sometimes, they can all be seen indulging in a drinking contest who can hold their alcohol.
      • Elvis is quite surprised to know that there are combatants that can fight while drunk. Finding it interesting, he decides to learn drunk boxing while use the Monk Asterisk by training under the likes of Rock Lee, Jamie Su, and Chen Stormout. So far, the first couple of tries ended with him passed out, though that hasn't stopped him from trying. The rest of Elvis' friends worry about what a drunk fighter could do in the field of battle.
    • Adelle:
      • Has crossed paths with fellow mercenaries Byleth and Kitsuru Emiya. Adelle became quick friends with the former, sympathizing with how they lost their father and how in different times, he had lost so many friends or companions due to their choices. For Kitsuru, she feels conflicted about him upon hearing what he's done but does hope that he can find happiness.
      • Adelle has met many fairies in the Pantheon, some that she has gotten along with, and some that she detests. She became quick friends with Flora, Fauna, and Merryweather, praising them for how they did their best for Princess Aurora, and she becomes a good ally for Toothiana, praising her responsibilities to protect children and the memories within their teeth. Adelle and Betilla will share stories of their allies' adventures, and while Adelle likes to talk with Tinker Bell, she does frown upon how Tinker Bell acted towards Wendy Darling out of sheer jealously. Titania is the only fairy among herself, Oberon, and Puck that Adelle is willing to tolerate since she's the most reasonable, as the other two reminded her of how the fairies of Mag Mell acted. Adelle is interested in Klefki and his ability to use multiple moves from the keys he's collected in the Pantheon. BOB, the Fairy Godmother from Shrek's world, and Maleficent are the three fairies that Adelle dislikes the most, as their actions give fairies a bad name.
      • She would find common ground with Zuko, who had an antagonistic and evil sister who would lose her sanity over the course of their conflict, and Kakashi, whose closest friend eventually Became Their Own Antithesis. Adelle notes that she couldn't save her sister from the path she took, and she doesn't even know why became the biggest human hater among the fairies after she originally admired humans. She sympathizes with Zuko's desire to help his sister, and she does give her condolences to Kakashi after hearing about what went down between him and Obito, noting that at the very least his soul was saved.

Edited by Mattman_the_Storyteller on Jun 29th 2025 at 7:15:31 AM

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#218222: Jun 29th 2025 at 7:04:38 PM

[nja]

I am considering one of two tropes for Jobu Tupaki; Costume Porn or Rummage Sale Reject. With the former, she wears a variety of intricate costumes that draw from pop music, high fashion, fantasy, and even video games. With the latter, she's a melancholic universe-hopping Reality Warper to dress in ever more gleefully extreme costumes. Her jumbled dress in the climax is a chaotic mixup of prior dresses and is a good reflection of her chaotic nature. If there is another trope you think I missed, please tell me

Edited by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 on Jun 30th 2025 at 2:49:00 AM

Excessive-Menace Time to SLEEP from the Velvet Cage (Fifth Year at Tropey's) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
Time to SLEEP
#218223: Jun 29th 2025 at 9:07:42 PM

[up] [tup] for Rummage Sale Reject

[up][up] For Gloria, Shirou Emiya has a huge hero compex who tries to take on everyone's burdens and is far too willing to sacrifice himself. Yuna tries not to burden everyone with her problems as she's primed to sacrifice herself to seal Sin. Also, in Adelle's Allies section, you misspelled "Kiritsugu" as "Kitsuru".

Edited by Excessive-Menace on Jun 29th 2025 at 9:14:19 AM

SING TO ME, LEND ME THE SONG OF BLASPHEMY
SpaceProtagonist (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Abstaining
#218224: Jun 30th 2025 at 8:30:57 AM

Alright, I'm beginning to have my doubts on the Pantheon and whether some of the profiles were even proofread properly.

I've recently checked the AI Personalities house, which as PAL has the A.I. Is a Crapshoot goddess (fair enough). However, in the heralds section that entry states that Mark Zuckerberg was her creator, when it was really Mark Bowman. However, whoever wrote the entry actually used the Bowman name when mentioning the creator a second time. They could have easily gone back to fix their first mistake.

I'm just going to make a just adjustment.sad

[down]I did. The Pantheon houses are still far from perfect and people can make mistakes. Thus you'd have to keep an open mind when browsing. I'm glad most of the users are being more careful.

...and this is another reason why I try to stay clear of the Pantheon: I'm worried about making some dumb mistake, or having the gods act out-of-character without even knowing.

Edited by SpaceProtagonist on Jun 30th 2025 at 9:02:28 AM

RadioContactLine Not The Kind of Worm You Wanna Meet from the land of Mormons and Swig (Utah, U.S.A) (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: love is a deadly lazer
Not The Kind of Worm You Wanna Meet
#218225: Jun 30th 2025 at 8:53:51 AM

[up] Looks like that was tacked on to the profile back in April (the profile was first ascended in December of 2024) by the creator Emperor AI, so likely they were just trying to improve it after the fact and mixed up some names accidentally. Good thing you noticed that and fixed it (I presume).

Edited by RadioContactLine on Jun 30th 2025 at 8:55:15 AM

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