Welcome to the Trope Pantheons thread! Please read the rules:
- When writing a profile, take note of the following:
- The very first thing any contributor should do before working on an idea or a profile is to propose and nominate the idea on the Trope Pantheons discussion thread
. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning, a paragraph of reasoning to justify taking a trope should be sufficient. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Attempting to work on ideas without a nomination and at least one net thumbs-up will not be accepted regardless of how much you have written already. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
- If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. For reworks in particular, nominate the idea as you would with new characters or profiles. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
- In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread
. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user, either in the Pantheon or the Sandbox sections.
- In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread
- If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters. Some real-life individuals, including content creators (fictional content created by them is still fair-game, but do not bring up the creators themselves in such cases), may be considered disqualified for profiles due to controversies that would make them concern the Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment. To determine where a current creator would be disqualified:
- Wait for at least a month after the latest significant update for a creator's controversy before any decision can be made. If a confirmation from the questioned creator (or associates) themselves occurs, then wait for a week.
- Immediate disqualification for either a guilty sentence in a significant court case against the creator, or evidence of consistently repeated, deliberate, and/or intentionally provocative hate speech and advocacy of dehumanizing perspectives, with lesser examples warranting caution instead.
- For creators with a clear persona of their character disclosed before any scandal, the persona can have a profile with no mentioning of their real-life information. Ambiguous existence of a persona would have to be discussed further hand for anything more decisive.
- For obvious reasons, gods cannot be followers, high priests, or heralds. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
- No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
- You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
- The very first thing any contributor should do before working on an idea or a profile is to propose and nominate the idea on the Trope Pantheons discussion thread
- When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
- When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
- You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread
in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
- For new and reworked deities, 3
means the profile will have a one-week waiting period.
- For new and reworked deities, 4
is a 3 day waiting period.
- 5
is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
- Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
- For new and reworked deities, 3
- For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions Expansion, the following rules apply:
- For new Treasures or Dominions, 3
is a 3 day waiting period.
- 4
is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
- For new Treasures or Dominions, 3
- Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be one flavor text.
- The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like to look like Character Shilling.
- Every troper new to the Pantheon is barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles, this means avoiding the usage of "
" or "
".
- Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
- Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for the deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
- Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
- On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others. After all, no one is responding to their idea.
- You can also adopt a profile or idea to work on from another contributor by messaging a request to them (preferably through private messages). Even if you get their permission, you still have to announce your adoption to the forum. Note that if the idea wasn't nominated in the first place you still have to properly nominate it.
- When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
- Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to note in a trope example that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, correct the situation by deleting the offending text. This goes for any non-Pantheon page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Pantheon.Good And Evil Colors.
- Do not bring things that would incite fights; hot topics and 'urgent' news are not pertinent to the Pantheon's mission. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight each other, so don't suggest things that go in that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
- To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
- Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.
- When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
- Please refer to Text Formatting Rules when writing a profile, since understanding how to make and edit site pages in general is a necessity for working on profiles or other Pantheon content. Additionally, if you are not experienced with English, refer to this forum page
, as proper English spelling and grammar is expected.
- All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also, be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
- The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
- A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
- If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in another House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity at most.
- For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part of their series' official soundtracks from the media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters' appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
- For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlight a character's behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute it to the original artist. Due to the website's dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website
is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too many bytes, it is suggestible to use this site
to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, run the compressed image through other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikis to look for better images, as even wikis for the series might not contain good official images.
- Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that make sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
- Please refer to Text Formatting Rules when writing a profile, since understanding how to make and edit site pages in general is a necessity for working on profiles or other Pantheon content. Additionally, if you are not experienced with English, refer to this forum page
- Pantheon Content:
- Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
- As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally an expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entirely from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
- Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well-advised not to abuse them. The only house where trope-less profiles are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
- For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
- Do not write in self-promotion or blatant advertising. Minor references to something are fine but writing that clearly intends to advertise something will not be given toleration.
- Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
- For Profile Standards:
- Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place, or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
- Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
- A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
- Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending on if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
- On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
- Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
- A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
- Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
- Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
- A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
- Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.
- Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warper deities capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
- Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warper deities that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
- Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low-level Reality Warper beings capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
- Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
- Demigods: Badass Normal citizens of the pantheon, making up for their lower status with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
- Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.
- An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
- Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on the representation of power mentioned above.
- Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
- Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud
or YouTube
.
- Alignment: Good, evil, neutral, etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here; the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignments to characters that don't have an alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
- For Pokémon deities only:
- Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
- Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
- Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
- Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
- Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
- Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
- High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case the deity would be unavailable, incapacitated, dead, or otherwise incapable of carrying out their duties. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
- Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
- Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
- Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
- Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
- Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either from their perspective or yours.
- Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
- Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
- Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
- Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
- Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly oppose or are opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects", "On Good Terms With", and/or "Commonality Connection") in terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
- Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
- Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
- OPTIONAL NOTE FOR CHARACTER RELATIONSHIPS: Should the list for Character relationships (IE. Allies, Enemies, etc.) become too big, categorize a certain number of characters to a specific group putting them on a sublist (One example: Luigi is from the same world as his brother Mario, hence Luigi should be fall under the Super Mario Bros sublist.)
- Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part, the order is irrelevant:
- The Ascension Text: This is the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
- The Bio: A brief synopsis of the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
- Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
- And some more trivia/facts.
- And a couple more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.
- An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
- Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
- Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
- Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
- Domains: Things that the place has links to.
- Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as to where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
- Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
- Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
- And some more trivia/facts.
- And a couple more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.
- An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
- Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
- Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
- Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
- Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
- Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
- Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
- Domains: Things that the item has links to.
- Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as to where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
- Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
- Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
- And some more trivia/facts.
- And a couple more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.
Edited by Tabs on Jun 24th 2024 at 7:51:43 AM
I guess I should be transparent
what is everyone here's opinion on me? I've felt this for a while, but I sometimes feel bad because it feels like because of stuff I did like moon man, or those unannounced deletions, people don't interact with me as often. i'm not 100 percent if some here dislike me, but if that is the case for some people, I do apologize for that, I regret what I did and hope to do better.
I should also explain what's the deal with all these attempts at looking over the whole pantheon and trying to weed out any bad profiles. I do wanna finish my current stratos profile, and do some reworks too, but i'm unsure like most here if I can do that on a consistent basis, so i'm trying to see if I can be more like a support dude or something.
finally, i'm sorry if I had any outburst recently, like my comment towards Hamana's comment towards my call of duty thing. idk if that was too harsh, and I apologize to him. I guess this very comment is one too, but idk, I didn't wanna be distant and not tell anybody this.
thank you for reading.
Edited by NightsDaJester on Nov 30th 2024 at 9:12:12 AM
"The part I feel most proud of is that we succeeded in affecting people without using words."— Yuji NakaYou're fine
Who's an alien or non-human that got into pop culture?
Paul, God of Aliens With Typical Human Names

- Hall: Naming Convention (House of Naming and Epithets)
- Demigod
- Symbol: The sci-fi his friends made based on their adventure
- Theme Song: All Over The World
- Alignment: True Neutral
- Portfolio: An Alien Named Paul, Has Learned To Speak English Fluently, The Greys, Innocent Aliens, Nice Guy But Incredibly Rude, Trying To Avoid Being Dissected Because You Have Outlived Your Usefulness, Popularized The Grey Alien In-Universe And Contributed To A Number Of Movies And Series, preparing Earth for First Contact, Healing Hands, Empathic Healer, Can Go Invisible When He Holds His Breath
- Domains: Aliens, Hitchhikers, Road Trips, Escape, Pop Culture, Sci-Fi, Healers
- Heralds: Graeme Willy and Clive Gollings (his friends who he hitchhiked with), Ruth (who became his friend), Agent Zoil (his undercover contact)
- Allies: E.T, Steven Spielberg, Roger Smith, Dr John Zoidberg, The Blorg Commonality, Jazz, Astral (ZEXAL), SCP-999, SCP-2295, Lilo Pelekai and Stitch, The Spore Player Race, Nebby, Lillie, the Crew of the USS Enterprise, The New Alliance Of Free Stars, Sonic the Hedgehog, the Wisps
- On good terms with: Benevolent aliens in general like The Doctor and J'onn J'onzz, Dana Scully and Fox Mulder, the Hall of Healers
- On speaking terms with: Ellen Ripley, The Visitors, The South Park boys (except Cartman, who opposes him), Cobra Bubbles, Dib Membrane, Nolan Grayson/Omni-Man
- Enemies: Zim, The Network, the Pod People, The Qu, Black Doom, The Grox, Fecto Forgo and and hostile aliens in general, Judge Claude Frollo, Bishop Mozgus, Dr Ivo/Julian "Eggman" Robotnik
- Wary of: Avery Bullock, Saya
- Distrusts: the Men in Black, the SCP Foundation
- Annoyed by: M Night Shyamalan (just a little bit though), Ned Flanders, creationists and religious fundamentalists in general, SCP-1171-1/Beauremont
- Paul is the name of an alien that landed in Wyoming in 1947, picking the name up after the dog of a girl named Tara his ship accidentally landed on. He came to Earth in order to prepare humanity for First Contact by getting used to the idea of aliens, inspiring the grey alien trope and influencing sci-fi media. Unfortunately he ended up as a prisoner of Area 51 and after giving them everything he knew, the Big Guy planned to harvest his brain for stem cells so he needed to make a break for it. He ended up hitchhiking with Graeme Willy and Clive Gollings, two British geeks on their way to a comic convention, getting chased by a trio of federal agents, and a young fundamentalist Christian woman called Ruth ended up being accidentally kidnapped. Graeme and Clive hatched a fumbling escape plan to return Paul to his mother ship, and though they had a number of trials and tribulations they succeeded with the Big Guy getting crushed under his landing mothership. The nerds wrote a sci-fi book based off the road trip.
- Paul's ascension to the Trope Pantheon was honestly pretty anticlimatic; he ended up landing on Earth again because he suspected he may have forgotten some of his belongings. Making sure not to draw attention to himself he found E.T, who somehow managed to also get back on Earth and seemed like he was being harassed by a government official. After distracting that official with a mean mind meld he was able to get E.T out of the official's sight. What he didn't realize is that the government official was actually another persona of Roger the alien, another bisexual grey alien that's been on Earth since 1947...he landed in New Mexico. The two discussed it over drinks, with Roger bringing up that he enjoyed watching Paul and was wondering if he would like to be part of something called the Trope Pantheon. Roger and Paul liked each other's attitude, and with a bunch of other aliens (some friendly, some not so much) having joined up Paul thought it might be a fun time. Via some official paperwork he was able to get in under the trope of An Alien Named "Bob", since like Roger he goes by a pretty mundane human name. It's not his birth name but hey, it stuck for over sixty years and no-one knows what his original name is so it fits.
- Paul actually knew E.T beforehand, but as a character he helped create. As part of his interstellar job to have people used to the idea of aliens he contributed to E.T the Extraterrestrial, among other movies and series involving aliens. For example E.T's Healing Hands from it being an ability Paul has. He was surprised to see E.T and other aliens in the Trope Pantheon as not only are they fictional but he helped write in secret. He takes a lot of pride in seeing his in-universe work, and some of the other work he had a hand in include Close Encounters of the Third Kind and The X-Files. He supposes there's an element of irony for Agent Scully, though if he and Mulder want to talk about stuff he's there for them. While Spielberg (in-universe) wasn't able to acknowledge Paul as a co-writer he will so in the Trope Pantheon. Rumor has it Spielberg and Paul are openly developing a new movie together. With 60 years of absorbing pop culture, Paul's a nerd by any human standards and after Roger's encouragement of modern trends he's started up a podcast where he has Master Mantis, B.O.B and Donkey Kong as regulars.
- Mark Grayson is hoping Allen the Alien gets to show up if he ever manages to ascend, prompting a "Wow, that's so original! 1 [[ActingForTwo the idea?" His dad is a subscriber to the podcast, which Paul wasn't sure what to think of at first. Nolan Grayson had taken the persona of Omni-Man as the guise of a super-hero so he could eventually undermine and prepare Earth for occupation for the Viltrumite Empire, however Humanity Is Infectious and he ultimately wasn't able to go through with it, eventually redeeming himself and attempting to reform Viltrumite society. Paul doesn't agree with his past and the old White Man's Burden ways of Viltrum, but so long as he shows he's making up for his past misdeeds he can show up on the podcast if he wants. Paul is musing on whether to platform Saya as she's a Starfish Alien whose true appearance causes people to go mad. She initially came to Earth to turn every human into similar aliens, but fell in love with Fuminori Sakisaka. Depending on the ending she decided to give up her plans or go through with them. For now, he thinks he'll keep his distance from her.
- Mundane Earth names for aliens are something that the Men in Black are quite experienced with, like Frank. Paul wasn't anything out of the ordinary for them, and he wasn't all that shocked by their existence. Now, does he trust them? No, not really. He was captive by government officials for decades and they would try to dissect him when they got everything they could, so he doesn't trust the Men in Black even if he acknowledges they'll leave him along so long as he doesn't break The Masquerade. He initially distrusted Ellen Ripley because the Big Guy out for his stem cell tissue looks like an older version of her, however after getting to talk they ended up learning to accept one another as Ripley thinks Paul is rude, but otherwise a nice guy that didn't deserve to be captured and harassed. Due to his captive state he tries to stay away from the SCP Foundation, even if the fact he's non-anomalous, and in fact fairly typical as aliens go mean they aren't interested in containing him. Part of it also might be not wanting to be near SCP-1171-1, since he sees Beauremont as the white trash of the stars. Paul may be rude, but he's not racist! He keeps his distance the farthest from Avery Bullock because of his pursuit in trying to capture aliens like Roger/the Roswell alien and he would be no exception. However Avery is more focused on Roger himself since his father failed to contain him and he wants to make up for that.
- While he landed on Earth in 1947 he is not the alien that landed in Roswell, instead he landed in Wyoming. A coincidence, maybe, especially if you somehow crossover other "Roswell aliens" like Dr John A Zoidberg...yeah, John. Most Decapodians have pretty Earthican first names like Edna or Harold. While Paul finds Zoidberg overbearing he does get along with him as Zoidberg is a dependable and affectionate friend, and also not one weirded out by Paul bringing a dead bird back just because he likes his food live. He does wish Zoidberg could improve his medical skills on humans even if he's a reliable alien doctor, though he admits his own Healing Hands are kind of cheating. Something that annoys Paul when brought up are when people think he probes people, since what information could aliens even possibly get from that? The Visitors didn't think that was rhetorical and answered "quality TV". Paul thinks their bosses the Joozians are weird in how they get their alien TV show, but he doesn't mind them. After all, he's absorbed a lot of human pop culture so he gets the appeal of "Earth". The South Park boys were distrustful at first, though they've come to accept he's not one of those probers so they tolerate him. Well, except for Cartman who was the one probed and generally an unpleasant, bigoted Jerkass Paul doesn't like.
- Paul's abilities are a sort of mind meld psychically giving people information, invisibility as an instinctual camoflague (though only when he holds his breath), and healing injuries. The last one is pretty useful and he's able to even bring back the recently deceased with it, though when dealing with humans this goes into Empathic Healer territory. He almost died saving Graeme from a fatal gunshot so he wouldn't recommend trying it unless it's fixing more minor injuries like blindness in one eye. The Hall of Healers suggested he should consider finding a job there, however Paul said that he's not too sure since it's not like he has a medical license. That being said, it could be a way to make a good amount of money so as long as they don't try to cut out his weed sessions the effort into getting it might be worth it. Another SCP saw potential in Paul; SCP-2295. A miraculous healing teddy bear, he decided to give it a shot after having some friendly tickles from SCP-999. The orange blob is a very friendly SCP who gives off good vibes, which combined with the blunt he had on hand led to a whole new high. The SCP Foundation has warned him not to give any of his stash to SCP-999, though Paul felt that was unncessary since "dude, I'm not going to give drugs to minors!" With his ability to share knowledge he is sometimes found studying the House of Knowledge to gather more information about the universe, and share it with those he considers friends in need of that knowledge.
- While the paygrade of being a licensed medical professional is appealing, the alien visitor from the Andromeda Galaxy is more adept at jobs involving diplomacy and writing. There was a point where he tried to pitch an in-universe Fix Fic for Signs as he was annoyed by Shyamalan's twist the aliens were weak to water (in his opinion it was stupid and he thought it made grey aliens look stupid) only to find calls from the Blorg Commonality. Annoying and clingy, but looking for actual friendship and being highly amiable, they watched Paul and thought he could be useful for getting the different races to get along, along with other races to make one big beneficial alliance. They cited how he was trying to get humanity to be ready for First Contact via pop culture, so direct diplomacy is a step up for him. Paul couldn't really argue for that, though he had one condition; he wanted to go on a trip with the USS Enterprise and show that he can contribute in their missions. Now, is he all that reliable? I mean he's just a regular alien so he sticks with the low-risk tasks and the more boring missions. Paul is a "go with the flow" kind of guy and after a hard day of work will kick back with movies, popcorn, and something to numb the mind, especially when that day sucks.
- Paul's language is definitely saltier than E.T and E.T doesn't drink or smoke, but he's very much the same archetype of innocent alien. While normally not an alien Sonic the Hedgehog technically filled that role in the Paramount continuity, and like Paul came to enjoy the Earth's culture. He likes to discuss human pop culture with Sonic along with Astral and Jazz, and the Wisps for that matter. Like them they were aliens that ended up being captured, though for far more nefarious purposes, but they're all around friendly critters. Because he was held captive he's going to be empathetic to the Wisps, though calling Paul a hero might be a bit of a stretch; he's just living his life and decided now to do a good deed. They can give power boosts for a time to people, and Paul was happy to learn he could wield their power. Eggman doesn't see Paul as a threat in case you're wondering, even if Paul doesn't like what he's doing. Nebby has a bit of a liking for Paul as they were an alien help captive in a facility, but fortunately they had Lillie to break them out. He's gotten to like them as he appreciates their Character Development and kindness. While the Martian Manhunter lacks most vices, he did have an addiction to Oreos, amusingly enoughnote . While he finds Paul rude he thinks he's a good dude and they sometimes like to discuss human culture and other stories with the Doctor.
- Doesn't care for evil aliens. He likes human culture and thinks they're a cool species, so he doesn't get where Zim is coming from in saying that they're stupid and feeble creatures. Well, maybe the humans in his 'verse, but after binging Invader Zim he feels stupidity is a general issue among all species in that 'verse. He's come to enjoy roasting the shit out of Zim for his incompetence, from the fact the only reason his disguise works is that Dib is the only classmate with a good enough brain and Gaz and Ms Bitters couldn't care less, or how it's ridiculous that Irkens rank leadership based on height without considering the other qualities a good alien emperor needs. Zim laughed off the claims he's incompetent, but screamed "YOU LIEEE!!" when he mocked the tallness standard of Irkens. His Arch-Enemy Dib started acting paranoid at another alien, thinking he was like Zim and up to no good. Fortunately it didn't take long for Paul to explain he's not here for an invasion, though he thinks that Dib is still kind of off.
- He might've had a little bit of sympathy for Fecto Forgo as he was captured and experimented on, becoming a tourist attraction. He of all people knows that must've sucked. Whatever sympathy he had vanished realizing what he was doing beforehand and he's no less of an aggressive asshole now as he was then; Paul wondered if maybe some aliens deserve that treatment. Paul still thinks the Qu are probably the most fucked up aliens, though Black Doom isn't too far off from that dishonor. Paul's not fond of the Network as they're trying to force humanity to join and accept them, since yeah he admits humans aren't the most sophisticated species but you need a light touch and consent on both ends if you're going to open them up to the universe. In short, if you're a hostile alien like them or Zim, you're getting the finger from him. The Grox are yet another alien race he doesn't like because of how notoriously hostile they are to other species, and Paul feels getting through to them when they're in a good mood is like talking at a brick wall. The Spore Player Race is cool as far as he's concerned; he'll do a few diplomatic missions for them in exchange for spice.
- One of the few times he lost his cool was when Ruth started espousing her Creationist beliefs, exposing himself as living disproof. He's not a fan of religious fundamentalism, especially when it's used by people to justify evil acts like Frollo and Mozgus. He finds Ned Flanders to be insufferable, though mainly after his Flanderization, even if it doesn't find him a bad guy. Ruth's father, despite being as fundamentalist, came around on him after he showed his healing abilities (albeit he saw him more as an agent of God that accepting he was an alien).
I didn't see this one in use so I would like to try nominating Noah and Mio for Reincarnation Romance.
Noah and Mio are soldiers of the warring nations of Keves and Agnus in the world of Aionios. In Aionios the soldiers are artificially created in pods and live for only 10 years. If they fall in battle they are just recreated as essentially blank slates and put back into battle in an endless cycle. Noah and Mio in at least most of their incarnations meet each other, abandon their nations and the war, fall in love, and either try to live peacefully or try and stop the cycle. Which results in them running out of time or dying early forcing them back into the cycle to meet each other again. This is despite the fact that soldiers (usually) don’t share any memories from a previous incarnation. Even the entity that created and maintains the world is very intrigued as to how and why this happens. I feel like these two work really well due to how important their connection across incarnations is to the narrative and both of their characters.
This is my first time doing this so apologies for any mistakes or any of these were already in use somewhere.
I am just critical of this because I did this before. I was in charge of profile deletion around 2020-2021 of which many complained that I was deleting too much (even if I was making or reworking some) and was told to just let the profiles stay as they see fit until someone either suggests a rework or replace said profile. I don't like it that other people do profile deletion and are granted to do so when I tried to years ago and was denied and hated by the community for doing so. In other words, double standards.
I swear Loid, you can't draw worth shit!well I mean, that was years ago, I bet a lot of people who did that aren't here anymore.
also, that doesn't mean they were RIGHT or justified. yeah it can suck sometimes, but we can't just keep around poor profiles, we need to root out the weeds sometimes, even if they're inticing weeds.
though I am sorry that happened to you back in the day, Hamana
"The part I feel most proud of is that we succeeded in affecting people without using words."— Yuji Naka
While I'm fine with deleting batches of poor profiles sometimes, my problem is when they happen too frequently. Contributors of this project prefer to work on their own pace so they'd probably get annoyed and exhausted if they have to scramble to nab some profiles they want to rework before they get deleted if it happens too often. Once in a while may be fine, but too much in a small frame of time is exhausting. There's no need to rush to clean up the Pantheon, there are no deadlines to worry about in this case.
We've just been through the creation of a lot of new Halls, including some old ones turning into disambiguations that need to be cleaned up, so I think we should take a break from too many big sweeping changes for now as a breather and to clean up stuff before the next big cleanup thing happens.
You can remove wicks of the disambiguated Halls listed in Pantheon Wick Cleaning so they'd point to the current location of the mentioned deity.
Edited by Excessive-Menace on Nov 30th 2024 at 6:22:53 AM
SING TO ME, LEND ME THE SONG OF BLASPHEMYno, that is extreme
I don't think we should try and force the trope to get a new profile as soon as possible, that might lead to half baked stuff, or something with less heart.
Edited by NightsDaJester on Nov 30th 2024 at 2:42:11 PM
"The part I feel most proud of is that we succeeded in affecting people without using words."— Yuji Nakastill, I don't think we should make any new rules about deletion and stuff unless its, absolutely needed, and as it I think the current one is fine.
oh btw, is it okay if I remove one of connery's tropes? the one i'm talking about is "The Rule Of Sean Connery", which is a SUGAR WIKI trope. those are forbiddon, right?
"The part I feel most proud of is that we succeeded in affecting people without using words."— Yuji Naka
Considering the latest drama dealt with a rash deletion without a more therough discussion about it, I honestly think we do need it.
And honestly, I remember when there was a deletion done behind the Trope Pantheon back with no discussion. That left a real sour taste.
Edited by WhirlRX on Nov 30th 2024 at 6:55:17 AM
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I don't think deities are allowed to hold Sugar Wiki and Darth Wiki pages on their titles, so I'm okay with that being removed from his profile.
the rash decesion had nothing to do with the deletion, it was human error, so I don't think restricting deletions to only being possible if the trope is immeditatly being worked on wouldn't help that
"The part I feel most proud of is that we succeeded in affecting people without using words."— Yuji Naka@Whirl RX There are other situations in which a deity might want to be deleted, such as their trope getting disambiguated or otherwise changed. Granted, if their profile is strong then people will usually want to find an alternative trope for them as opposed to deleting them, but since that situation exists I don't think we should limit deletions to only when there's an incoming replacement for them.
On a similar note, I have mentioned several times on this forum that we should delete Madame Foster, as she has a poor profile, her trope Cool Old Lady is under discussion and going to be merged with Cool Old Guy, I find her to be a questionable choice for that trope regardless, and Menace has plans to merge Parental Figures, Mothers, and Fathers into one under the former name, and in my opinion Cool Old Lady doesn't fit in that location (nor does she really fit Mothers), so it's probably for the absolute best that she is deleted. Nobody has given me a yay or nay on this deletion proposition as far as I am aware.
Ready to rock?I think a minimum of waiting at least 1 day before acting on any deletion-related decision would at least be beneficial.
I did get three
s in favor of restricting Hall splits to 350k+ byte pages, would want to see if people think that is a good number or if it should be higher or lower.
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No. It doesn't fit current standards, is from the old GUAG, and should be removed.
Edited by Necromancer10 on Nov 30th 2024 at 1:17:44 PM
KILL CONSUME MULTIPLY CONQUERMadame Foster has been sent a warning to vacate her orphanage, effective immediately. Help in removing wicks to her if you find any would be appreciated, though so far, the only ones I could find to her were in the Imaginary Friends profile.
EDIT: I have now removed the wick in the Imaginary Friends profile.
I've got a question: is the GUAG Toku Division still a thing? I have them listed as an interaction for my upcoming Arisen profile, but I want to make sure that this is not an outdated submission. The fact that it hasn't been edited in three years doesn't give me hope...
Edited by RadioContactLine on Nov 30th 2024 at 10:45:49 AM
Ready to rock?It's unlisted so I assume it's not around anymore. Additional notes-I have adopted an idea and I am wondering what people think of it
- The Witches, Unholy Goddesses of Child Abuse: adopted from Shinobi. Roald Dahl was a noted hater of abusive foster homes/schools, having spent a portion of his childhood in an abusive school. So he tends to make the nasty villains child abusers. The Witches hate children, often putting curses on them to either kill them or trick their parents into doing it for them. Their plan is to turn the children of England to mice so they either die prematurely of old age or get killed as pests. They want to abuse and kill children simply because they smell bad. Using their magic to abuse and hurt kids is pretty much their raison d'aitre.
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The Grand United Alliance of Good page doesn't list the Toku Division, so I'm assuming that it's defunct now.

@ Clovis nevermind, Orisa has a trope for her, my bad 😅
Though it could use some rework, you know updating her profile with the rise of Ramattra into the pantheons
Edited by EmperorAI on Nov 30th 2024 at 10:18:24 AM
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