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Welcome to the Trope Pantheons thread! Please read the rules:

    Rules 
Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:
  • When writing a profile, take note of the following:
    • The very first thing any contributor should do before working on an idea or a profile is to propose and nominate the idea on the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning, a paragraph of reasoning to justify taking a trope should be sufficient. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Attempting to work on ideas without a nomination and at least one net thumbs-up will not be accepted regardless of how much you have written already. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
    • If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. For reworks in particular, nominate the idea as you would with new characters or profiles. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
      • In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user, either in the Pantheon or the Sandbox sections.
    • If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters. Some real-life individuals, including content creators (fictional content created by them is still fair-game, but do not bring up the creators themselves in such cases), may be considered disqualified for profiles due to controversies that would make them concern the Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment. To determine where a current creator would be disqualified:
      • Wait for at least a month after the latest significant update for a creator's controversy before any decision can be made. If a confirmation from the questioned creator (or associates) themselves occurs, then wait for a week.
      • Immediate disqualification for either a guilty sentence in a significant court case against the creator, or evidence of consistently repeated, deliberate, and/or intentionally provocative hate speech and advocacy of dehumanizing perspectives, with lesser examples warranting caution instead.
      • For creators with a clear persona of their character disclosed before any scandal, the persona can have a profile with no mentioning of their real-life information. Ambiguous existence of a persona would have to be discussed further hand for anything more decisive.
    • For obvious reasons, gods cannot be followers, high priests, or heralds. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
    • No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
      • You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
  • When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
    • When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
    • You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
      • For new and reworked deities, 3 [tup] means the profile will have a one-week waiting period.
      • For new and reworked deities, 4 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 5 [tup] is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
      • Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
    • For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions Expansion, the following rules apply:
      • For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 4 [tup] is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
    • Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be one flavor text.
    • The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like to look like Character Shilling.
    • Every troper new to the Pantheon is barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles, this means avoiding the usage of "[tup]" or "[tdown]".
    • Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
    • Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for the deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
    • Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
      • On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others. After all, no one is responding to their idea.
    • You can also adopt a profile or idea to work on from another contributor by messaging a request to them (preferably through private messages). Even if you get their permission, you still have to announce your adoption to the forum. Note that if the idea wasn't nominated in the first place you still have to properly nominate it.
  • When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
    • Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to note in a trope example that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, correct the situation by deleting the offending text. This goes for any non-Pantheon page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Pantheon.Good And Evil Colors.
    • Do not bring things that would incite fights; hot topics and 'urgent' news are not pertinent to the Pantheon's mission. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight each other, so don't suggest things that go in that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
    • To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
    • Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.
    Instructions and Tips 
Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:
  • When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
    • Please refer to Text Formatting Rules when writing a profile, since understanding how to make and edit site pages in general is a necessity for working on profiles or other Pantheon content. Additionally, if you are not experienced with English, refer to this forum page, as proper English spelling and grammar is expected.
    • All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also, be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
    • The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
    • A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
    • If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in another House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity at most.
    • For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part of their series' official soundtracks from the media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters' appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
    • For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlight a character's behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute it to the original artist. Due to the website's dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too many bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, run the compressed image through other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikis to look for better images, as even wikis for the series might not contain good official images.
    • Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that make sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
  • Pantheon Content:
    • Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
      • As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally an expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entirely from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
    • Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well-advised not to abuse them. The only house where trope-less profiles are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
    • For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
    • Do not write in self-promotion or blatant advertising. Minor references to something are fine but writing that clearly intends to advertise something will not be given toleration.
  • For Profile Standards:
    • Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place, or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
    • Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
      • Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending on if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
      • On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
    • Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
      • Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
    • Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
      • Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.
    Divine Ranking System 
  • Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warper deities capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
  • Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warper deities that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
  • Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low-level Reality Warper beings capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
  • Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
  • Demigods: Badass Normal citizens of the pantheon, making up for their lower status with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
  • Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.
    Templates 
Template for adding a new deity: God X, God/Goddess/Deity of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)
  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on the representation of power mentioned above.
  • Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
  • Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
  • Alignment: Good, evil, neutral, etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here; the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignments to characters that don't have an alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
  • For Pokémon deities only:
    • Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
    • Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
    • Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
  • Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
  • Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
  • High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case the deity would be unavailable, incapacitated, dead, or otherwise incapable of carrying out their duties. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
  • Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
  • Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
    • Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.

    • Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
    • Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either from their perspective or yours.
    • Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
    • Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
    • Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
    • Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
    • Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly oppose or are opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects", "On Good Terms With", and/or "Commonality Connection") in terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
    • Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
    • Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
      • OPTIONAL NOTE FOR CHARACTER RELATIONSHIPS: Should the list for Character relationships (IE. Allies, Enemies, etc.) become too big, categorize a certain number of characters to a specific group putting them on a sublist (One example: Luigi is from the same world as his brother Mario, hence Luigi should be fall under the Super Mario Bros sublist.)
  • Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part, the order is irrelevant:
    • The Ascension Text: This is the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
    • The Bio: A brief synopsis of the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.
Template for Dominions profiles: Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)
  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
  • Domains: Things that the place has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as to where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.
Template for Treasure profiles: The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)
  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
  • Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
  • Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
  • Domains: Things that the item has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as to where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.

Edited by Tabs on Jun 24th 2024 at 7:51:43 AM

Titania21 Nurse full of Curse from Deep (Bitroper) Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
Nurse full of Curse
#207976: May 20th 2024 at 7:54:23 PM

I think it's time for this profile to come up, any type of feedback is appreciated.

Feedback/Election Mode

Spinel, Goddess of Abandonment-Induced Insanity (Noodle Child)

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Her current appearance
Click here for her original form
  • Potential Hall Fits: Loneliness and Causes of Madness
  • Intermediate Goddess
  • Symbol: Her heart-shaped gem that is embedded on her chest.
  • Theme: "Drift Away"
  • Alignment: True Neutral (before series), Chaotic Evil (in movie), Now Neutral Good (post-redemption)
  • Portfolio: Went Insane due to Abandonment, Madness Makeover, Can Morph Body Parts Into Tools, Being Antagonistic out of Spite, Beware the Silly Ones, Smarter Than You Look, Seeks Pain out of Suffering from one, Rubber Woman, Sad Clown, Endured Far More Unnecessarily, Eventually realizes the weight of her actions, Heel-Face Turn, Adopted by the Diamonds
  • Domains: Abandonment, Vengeful, Madness
  • Allies: Steven Universe and the other Crystal Gems, The Great Diamond Authority, Monkey D. Luffy, Bugs Bunny, Roger Rabbit, Oswald the Lucky Rabbit, Reed Richards, Yuno Gasai (her 3rd World counterpart), Pegasus J. Crawford, Argus (Warcraft), Jake the Dog, Plastic Man
  • Complicated Relationship: Pink Diamond/Rose Quartz (former master)
  • Enemies: Nui Harime, Ragyo Kiryuin, Lotso, Thouzer, Madame Rouge, Mina Loveberry, Light Yagami
  • Pities: Angela
  • Sympathy for the Devil: Necrozma
  • Spinel was created as Pink Diamond's playmate at least 12,000 years ago. She began to play with Pink Diamond, which she did genuinely enjoyed. However, overtime Pink Diamond began to be gradually less enthusiastic with her seeing her as very naive. When the time for Pink to have her own colony which Spinel wanted to go with her, but Pink decided to play a game on her. Pink promptly told her they were going to play a new game in which she has to stay still until she returns, which she playfully obeyed to but didn't know it was abandonment. In the next 6,000 years, Spinel stayed still for the day she returns but gradually she becomes more worn out and hopeless as the passage of time flows.
    • She eventually hears the news broadcasted by Steven causing her to be mentally broken, changing form in the process after hearing the news that Pink Diamond left her and ceased to exist. Spinel swore to exact her retribution against Steven and the Crystal Gems. Spinel arrives to Beach City with her specially made Injector, she begins to use the Injector on the Earth, poisoning it in the process. Spinel then encounters the core members of the Crystal Gems, before taking Garnet, Amethyst and Pearl out before being poofed by Steven himself. Spinel then follows Steven around, as he attempts to get the memories of the core Crystal Gems' back. Steven and the others realized Spinel is the key to stop the Injector, but the realization hits her that Steven cared more about saving his friends, causes her to relapse to her older personality. Spinel then fights with the reformed Crystal Gems, but on the losing end before finally fighting Steven with the latter, ultimately managing to defeat and get through her. Spinel feeling regret, for her actions decide to leave before the Diamonds took her in, finally letting her having new friends after several millennia of suffering and isolation.
  • Her ascension was brought up by the Great Diamond Authority, sometime after they bitterly reunited by Pink Diamond. While Spinel is overjoyed to be invited in the new area, the Diamonds told her that Pink Diamond is there much to Spinel's surprise. Of course, Spinel having grown some level of distrust towards her would understandably avoid her initially. They finally have a talk, sometime later which Spinel doesn't fully forgive her as she abandoned her on purpose. She may have been abused by the Diamonds for eons, but that doesn't fully justify her neglect on her. After that, they remain barely on contact and focusing on themselves noting that their bond has almost completely shattered. Still, Spinel is very happy to see Steven and the other Crystal Gems, moving on from their antagonism.
  • Spinel spends her time in the Hall of Bodily Form, with her wanting to show her elasticity which attracted some notable deities. In particular, she got the attention of Monkey D. Luffy when he visited the Hall, in one of the days of her time. Luffy and Spinel quickly started a bond in virtue of their common characteristics and personal tragedies. After some time, they told each other of their journeys which Luffy feels very sympathetic for her and hopes that she can one day recover her complete sense of bonds, which she thanked him for. She also feels deep pity for Luffy as he witnessed his brother sacrificing his life for him which is even more tragic that is caused by a wrong move.
    • Spinel has made an odd ally in Reed Richards, this comes to the shock to her friends in the Pantheon as they have contrasting qualities. Usually, Reed gets a bit annoyed of her presence but he knows that she is not the same malicious being that nearly destroyed the planet. Reed is very wary of her Injector, noting that the destruction of Earth isn't something to play around. Spinel admits, that she isn't going to let the injector out noting that her madness lead to her nearly destroying the planet. Regardless, it's clear that both have a plain but overall pretty positive relationship.
    • Spinel also found a new friend in Jake the Dog, a dog shape shifter hybrid. Though Spinel is still mentally recovering, she has formed a cordial relationship with the shapeshifter. Jake tells Spinel that she should learn that things were out of control on her part and she needs to heal that she won’t do it again. While Spinel does enjoy his company, she even thinks that Jake is reckless. Jake does admit that his lifespan and dream are reasons as to why he’s generally lax. They both are comfortable of talking about their past, and how they found peace.
  • Usually, Spinel does rarely show signs of fear around others, even foes around the Pantheon realm. But the Legendary Pokemon, Necrozma shows otherwise making Spinel even wary. Necrozma’s powers are undoubtedly extremely dangerous as he is a parasite to light. Since she and the Gems are simply light powered beings, they can’t retain their form around him. She and the other Crystal Gems tend to stay a certain distance from the Legendary Pokemon and are cautious of his absorption. It's noted that while Necrozma is a genuine threat, she makes no attempts to harm him noting that it would bring upon the similar pain to her.
  • Spinel’s trip to the House of Madness and Insanity has been a horrifying yet surreal experience for the reformed Gem. When Spinel visited the house, she expected a rather kooky place full of wack. She soon underestimated the overall unnerving vibe of the house. In her first visit, Spinel was disturbed by the unnerving nature of the House within mere minutes. The amount of twisted buildings and the overall frightening feeling was enough that it made Spinel unnerved enough to leave the House in sheer panic.
    • Yuno Gasai would be an unusual ally for Spinel, of course her 3rd World counterpart will be most likely. Given that Yuno now has access to her 1st World memories but none of the psychotic tendencies of her other self. While Spinel is unnerved initially at her, the two would come to a understanding as they were nothing of their previous selves. It probably helps that they mentally healed after the incidents which caused them to spiral down with Yuno having her adopted parents taking better care of her and the reformed Diamonds formally adopting Spinel and treating her better than what Pink could have done before.
  • Spinel having been intentionally abandoned for 12,000 years would be understandably dejected by the thought of abandonment, even if her time with the Diamonds has just begun to heal her emotional wounds. She has already developed a malice, for those who are willing to abandon their loved ones in favor for selfish reasons. This resulted in Spinel, connecting with those who had the unfortunate chance of being abandoned via circumstances. Hence, she goes on to the Hall of Loneliness, to meet various deities and trying to cheer them up. Spinel would develop a strong bond with Oswald the Rabbit, an obscure but cheerful rabbit. Spinel and Oswald would form a strong relationship with them interacting as frequent as they possibly could.
    • Spinel while she does somewhat pity Lotso, is ultimately disgusted of his petty actions of atrocity. During one day in the Pantheon, Spinel came to a haunted childcare facility where she found several damaged toys and plushies, much to her horror. She also noticed Lotso playing a game of poker with several corrupted toys by his side. Coming to the realization, by their conservation she realized the place is a hovel of despair for toys. She tried to free them, but Lotso found her and tried to convince her of his supposed good intentions by explaining his own interpretation of his past. Spinel, while willing to hear him out, decides to call him out for using his past to make others suffer the same pain. Lotso, then figures out that she endured the same suffering and tries to convince her that she isn't better than that considering her experience but Spinel retorts saying that while she got abandoned, the length far exceeds of Lotso and has a different reason rather than being unwillingly abandoned.
  • While Spinel does have a cheerful attitude, the same doesn’t apply to the two top ranking members of the REVOCS, Nui Harime and Ragyo Kiryuin. The two being arguably some of the worst, that Spinel has encountered in the Pantheon. Spinel is disturbed by Nui’s psychotic tendencies as she wouldn’t have gone that far to personally murder one of Steven’s loved ones with glee, even in her worst. With Ragyo, Spinel loses her cheerful facade in favor of plain disgust. Spinel hasn’t heard of that Ragyo did, but she sees the unnerving side of her. That said, she makes an effort to stay away from them as she can as possible.

"Hahahaha, oh, but it can be, and it is! I got a new style, and a few new toys that are gonna put an end to your 'happily ever after', once and for all!!"

Vibe.
NitroIndigo ♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves from West Midlands region, England Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves
#207977: May 20th 2024 at 9:40:00 PM

[tup] for Collectible Monsters. I've been busy lately, but I'll get around to making Sandbox.Hall Of Playable Characters and Sandbox.Hall Of Non Player Characters soon.

Excessive-Menace Time to SLEEP from the Velvet Cage (Fifth Year at Tropey's) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
Time to SLEEP
#207978: May 20th 2024 at 10:33:34 PM

Collectible Monsters is now live.

A few movement proposals since the selected Halls have the too long warning:

SING TO ME, LEND ME THE SONG OF BLASPHEMY
wootzits (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#207979: May 21st 2024 at 6:23:27 AM

Martial Arts Headband got merged with Badasses Wear Bandanas, so Afro and Justice should probably take that given how such headwear is treated in-series as a sign of power and the characters challenge each other for the right to wear them. Meanwhile the current holder Marcus Fenix could have Take Cover! since that's a prominent mechanic in his game to the point of being considered the Trope Codifier.

J99908 It’s your BATH time! from A bathtub Since: Jun, 2023 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
It’s your BATH time!
#207980: May 21st 2024 at 6:29:09 AM

Haven’t done much work on Atticus’ profile, but I’m looking for interactions:

  • Good Lawyers
  • Kindly Southerners
  • Single parents/fathers
  • Racists
  • People who’ve been the victim of racism or falsely accused of rape.
  • Anything else you guys deem fit.

Atticus Finch, God of Kindly Alabamans (One-Shot)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/atticus_finch.jpg
  • Demigod
  • Symbol: A pair of spectacles, one lens much thicker than the other
  • Theme Song: To Kill a Mockingbird Suite
  • Alignment: Lawful Good
  • Portfolio: Badass Bookworm, Crusading Lawyer, Deadpan Snarker, Knows He’ll Lose The Trial But Tires his best Anyway, based on Harper Lee’s father, Gentleman and a Scholar, The Hero, Nice Guy, a real estate lawyer appointed to defend Tom Robinson, Very Protective Of His Kids, Retired Badass, Smart People Wear Glasses, Stoic Spectacles, Good Parents
  • Domains: Good, Law, Respect, Single Parenthood, Alabama
  • Heralds: His children, Jean Louise “Scout” Finch and Jeremy “Jem” Finch, His siblings, Jack and Alexandra Finch, and his maid Calpurnia
  • Allies: Phoenix Wrigh and The Wright Anything Agency, Perry Mason, Miles Edgeworth, Rika Furude, The Heroic Protectors Of Family, Marge Gunderson, Hank Hill, Naofumi Iwatani, Tom Robinson
  • Enemies: Phillip Wittenbane/Emperor Belos, Calvin Candie and Stephen, Manfred von Karma, Malty S. Melromarc, The Child Abuse Supporters, Bob Ewell
  • Opposes: Scarlett O’Hara, Eric Cartman, Ragyo Kiryuin
  • Admired by: The Nostalgia Critic
  • The oldest prominent lawyer in the Pantheon, Atticus Finch represents the moral ideal of both a lawyer and a human being: he is brutally honest, highly moral, a tireless crusader for good causes (even hopeless ones), and a virtual pacifist. He has the most dignity of any god in the courtroom, and other gods respond by settling down a bit while in his presence. Unlike other lawyer gods, he doesn't see the courtroom as a battle between himself and the prosecution, and has never so much as raised his voice. "Never ask a witness a question whose answer you don't know," he's said before.
  • Though he doesn’t reside in the House of Justice, he can be found working on several cases there. Among those in the house who work well with him are fellow lawyers Phoenix Wright and Perry Mason, who respect him for his actions in the court.
    • From Phoenix, he met up with Miles Edgeworth, who was given odd looks as he noticed his resemblance to his father Gregory. Perhaps it’s because of this that the two were able to work together in several cases.
    • On the other hand, he doesn’t like Manfred von Karma for his Amoral Attorney tendencies.
  • Gets along well with Marge Gunderson due to both of them being law-abiding nice people. The Nostalgia Critic even cited both of them as two of his all-time favorite characters.
  • Given the racism-based conflict being a Central Theme in his story, it’s no surprise that he has his share of enemies. He was particularly annoyed with Chin’s modus operandi being driven by blind racism. He also doesn’t like Calvin Candie and Stephen for obvious reasons.
    • He also doesn’t like Cartman as he couldn’t believe how much of a dick he is at such a young age. He also despises Malty for having herself tried to set up various people with false rape accusations, much like how Bob Ewell did so against Tom Robinson.
  • As the Goddess of Determined Defeatists, Rika Furude respects the lawyer for his determination to defend an innocent man despite knowing fully well that the jury would not acquit him.
  • While a single parent, he treats his children with nothing but love and respect, and a big part of his character is that he refuses to do anything that would lower himself in the eyes of Scout and Jem. As such, many good-aligned gods in the House of Family are glad to help him out. He is also on good terms with Hank Hill, who is another father that resides in the South.
  • What's with his One-Shot nickname? Well, there was one time a rabid dog comes slinking into the neighborhood, and he dispatched it cleanly with a rifle. According to, Miss Maudie, that was his old nickname for his expert marksmanship. One reason he won't hunt anymore is that he's too good and it's not fair to the animals.
  • “You never really understand a person until you consider things from his point of view - until you climb into his skin and walk around in it.”

It builds character.
NitroIndigo ♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves from West Midlands region, England Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves
#207981: May 21st 2024 at 6:57:47 AM

[up]Some of the paragraphs are too short.

RadioContactLine Not The Kind of Worm You Wanna Meet from the land of Mormons and Swig (Utah, U.S.A) (Life not ruined yet) Relationship Status: love is a deadly lazer
Not The Kind of Worm You Wanna Meet
#207982: May 21st 2024 at 7:10:23 AM

[up][up] Don't really get the relationship between Atticus and Belos. Could you maybe clarify in a paragraph? I really don't see it.

Ready to rock?
J99908 It’s your BATH time! from A bathtub Since: Jun, 2023 Relationship Status: It's not my fault I'm not popular!
It’s your BATH time!
#207983: May 21st 2024 at 7:21:50 AM

[up][up]Haven’t started it yet, just wanted to find relationships first.

It builds character.
Rmpdc Ghoulish Brain Worm from Philippines Since: May, 2015 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Ghoulish Brain Worm
#207984: May 21st 2024 at 8:12:54 AM

[up][up][up][up] Expert marksmen from the United States? He'd probably get along well with the likes of Lt. Karl Fairburne, a West Point graduate, expert sniper, and SOE slash OSS agent. Fairburne himself vehemently opposes the Nazis, themselves infamous for being racist against Blacks, while also being of German descent himself. And he's noted in-universe to be one of the best snipers in the Allied Forces, having earned a reputation as The Dreaded among German Forces in North Africa, Italy, and France.

First draft for the 100th Bomb Group. Still very much a WIP.

Tom Hanks: "In the cold, blue skies over Europe, a new kind of combat was fought in an environment that had never been experienced before. It was a singular event in the history of warfare. Unprecedented and never to be repeated. Airmen from 40 American bomber groups bled and died in staggering numbers in air combat. One of these groups, hyperaggressive and undisciplined, suffered so many casualties in such a short period of time it became known as The Bloody Hundredth."

The 100th Bomb Group, Divine Group Of High Attrition Rates (The Bloody Hundredth, The True Masters of the Air)

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Unit insignia of the 100th Bomb Group
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The field commanders of the 100th Bomb Group. From left: Major Robert "Rosie" Rosenthal, Major Gale "Buck" Cleven, Major John "Bucky" Egan, and Major Harry Crosby
Some of the 100th's Commissioned Officers

Some of the 100th's Enlisted Men
The 100th's B- 17 Flying Fortresses in combat over Berlin
Crosby: "By the first few weeks of 1945, we were closing in on the Third Reich from all sides. In the West, the Allies were storming into Germany. In the East, the Russians were approaching the Oder River. And in the sky...the 8th Air Force flew uncontested. We were the true Masters of the Air..."

Edited by Rmpdc on May 21st 2024 at 11:33:33 PM

"We are gonna sit here and take it! You hear me!? We're gonna take it!"
HamanaHamanaHamana Dog or Oni? (Bitroper)
Dog or Oni?
#207985: May 21st 2024 at 9:07:33 AM

@wootzits Keep Afro and Justice. Delete Marcus Fenix.

@Excessive You can delete the Great Ones since they already have a house in Extraterrestrial Appearance and Biology

Edited by HamanaHamanaHamana on May 21st 2024 at 7:12:57 PM

I swear Loid, you can't draw worth shit!
kingvideogames Every Kel Profile is Canon from SOMEWHERE down in Fullertown; don’t know where.. Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!
Every Kel Profile is Canon
#207986: May 21st 2024 at 9:14:54 AM

@Spinel, Peacock is another Rubber Hose girl who was created as a tribute to the era, who while not a villain, definitely isn't opposed to violence. Her playful, violent nature is shown to be a result of her being enslaved and almost dying by the Medici Mafia and admiring the Anti-Skullgirls Lab that saved her. She definitely knows what it's like to be put through the wringer, and underneath all her pranks and antics, would be willing to understand and pity Spinel's situation alongside being her friend.

Atticus Finch, Big Band is an honest by-the-book detective, not willing to be part of the Medici Mafia's payroll even when bribed. He definitely would respect the lawyer who ignored all the prejudices during his time.

Edited by kingvideogames on May 21st 2024 at 9:15:09 AM

Time to rise and shine. Good morning!
NitroIndigo ♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves from West Midlands region, England Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?
♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves
#207987: May 21st 2024 at 10:47:24 AM

Started on Hall Of Playable Characters and Hall Of Non Player Characters. Also, I think the Tamagotchis could be moved to Gaming Genres (N to Z)... and I'm not sure what the difference between a Virtual Pet and Raising Sim is.

Camilla What do you mean I'm not declared insane? Since: May, 2013 Relationship Status: Norwegian Wood
What do you mean I'm not declared insane?
#207988: May 21st 2024 at 1:17:26 PM

Atticus Finch is from Alabama, like the wrestler AJ Styles. I forgot if Atticus is a religious man but Styles also is (he once got angry when someone quoted Austin 3:16, unaware it was a legendary promo)

Note to self: Never bet on Entei.
Excessive-Menace Time to SLEEP from the Velvet Cage (Fifth Year at Tropey's) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
Time to SLEEP
#207989: May 21st 2024 at 1:34:28 PM

@Wootzitz

[tup] for changing Afro's and Justice's trope

@J99908

Ren Amamiya/Joker is also a victim of false accusations that got him in trouble with the law.

@Hamana

Considering that the Great Ones have Bizarre Alien Reproduction which isn't strictly an abomination trope, I'm okay with that.

@Nitro

I think Yuki Ashikaga (Gay Option) can go to Gaming Narratives since that Hall deals with options in games.

Still waiting for approvals for my movement proposals so I can get to moving them.

Edited by Excessive-Menace on May 21st 2024 at 1:53:57 AM

SING TO ME, LEND ME THE SONG OF BLASPHEMY
MewVictini96 Since: Oct, 2021
#207990: May 21st 2024 at 1:50:49 PM

Since Sailor Chaos had her trope changed I want to propose someone else to the As Long as There Is Evil.

Name: Ogudomon

Origin: Digimon

Trope: As Long as There Is Evil

House: Villainous Roles

Reason: It fits this trope twice over. Being a Fusion Dance of the Seven Great Demon Lords who themselves are examples of this trope.

wootzits (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#207991: May 21st 2024 at 2:10:24 PM

[up]That's a very insufficient reason, not to mention I already have the Seven Demon Lords reserved and ascending their Fusion Dance by itself would be redundant.

On another note, I have changed Afro and Justice's trope and deleted Marcus Fenix since people seem not to care about him.

neoamon Mr from Planet Mobius S.T.C. (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
Mr
#207992: May 21st 2024 at 3:02:21 PM

@ Excessive-Menace: I agree with your suggestions for moving deities so [tup]. I have to say that with all the souls tropes I would have thought that there was one already.

@ The Gremlins in the hall of Monster Types don't have a title.

The Gremlins major members

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/gremlin1.png
Some of the more prominent Gremlins; Top row from left to right: Gizmo, Stripe; Bottom Row: Mohawk, Brain

Edited by neoamon on May 21st 2024 at 11:16:09 AM

"May your heart be your guiding key"
wootzits (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#207993: May 21st 2024 at 3:17:34 PM

[up]That's by design. Gremlins, Gods of Gremlins would look too silly.

MewVictini96 Since: Oct, 2021
#207994: May 21st 2024 at 3:19:18 PM

How about...?

Name: Noise

Origin: Suite Pretty Cure ♪

Trope: As Long as There Is Evil

House: Villainous Roles

Reason: He actually comes back as promised alarmingly quickly after his defeat and this trope is actively explored with surprising depth when the Pretty Cures decide to befriend Noise in part to subvert this trope. Noise entire plan, and such the whole plot of the series from Day 1, backstory included, was because Noise was trying to bypass this and kill himself Deader than Dead.

neoamon Mr from Planet Mobius S.T.C. (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded)
Mr
#207995: May 21st 2024 at 3:25:26 PM

[up][up]I just thought that it was left over from the old Pantheon.

"May your heart be your guiding key"
RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#207996: May 21st 2024 at 6:47:12 PM

@ Excessive-Menace: While I get the move, I might want to consider additional halls for those houses since even with the move we know they're close to pushing the too long warning

@ Atticus Finch: You don't have to mention it but I am curious as to what his opinion on FDR might be because timeline-wise I think he was president when To Kill a Mockingbird was set

I have a couple of DC ideas for the treasury. I would appreciate on overview to know if you guys like these ideas

  • Pieces Of Kryptonite: a restoration for the Great Treasury. One of the most iconic weaknesses in superhero comics is kryptonite. A radioactive piece of the exploded planet Krypton, it is radioactive and Kryptonian life is particularly susceptible to it, being akin to poisoning. Green Kryptonite is the original and pure stuff, but there are variants which have different effects. Sometimes it only affects Kryptonian life, but sometimes it has a more subtle effect like the time Lex Luthor got cancer using a kryptonite ring
  • I would like to make a partial restoration, partial rework in adding the Lantern Rings to the Great Treasury. One of the most iconic weapons in the DC universe, and also a major feature of the Green Lantern mythos is the titular lantern ring. Using will for green, or other emotions for other rings, you can create Hard Light constructs and use your imagination in a powerful way. Should it be the rainbow seven, should it include the White and Black Lantern rings (despite the security risk the latter has)? The idea is that they would function as a way to deputize people in the Trope Pantheon

Edited by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 on May 22nd 2024 at 2:26:51 AM

Rmpdc Ghoulish Brain Worm from Philippines Since: May, 2015 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Ghoulish Brain Worm
#207997: May 21st 2024 at 7:51:45 PM

[up][tup] for both DC Comics artifacts.

"We are gonna sit here and take it! You hear me!? We're gonna take it!"
SailorVenus372 Since: Nov, 2019 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#207998: May 21st 2024 at 7:52:57 PM

[up][up] Include the White and Black Rings. Of course, Nekron can make them, but it feels weird to exclude

Get Snuck-Up On.”
RadioRavenRide It's Radioing Time from The End of Time Since: Mar, 2023 Relationship Status: Tsundere'ing
It's Radioing Time
#207999: May 21st 2024 at 11:14:07 PM

Finally time to finish this. Thumbs Mode

Marguerite "Marie" Breuilh, Goddess of Kill Exclusivity (Marie , Tasogare, Goddess of Rinne-Tensei, Omnibenevolent Goddess, The Child of Retribution)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/marie_pantheon.png
The Twilight

  • Intermediate Goddess, Overdeity as a Hadou God
  • Symbol: Margueritte-Bois de Justice, or The Anime Entelecheia Symbol
  • Alignment: Neutral Good, used to be True Neutral
  • Portfolio: Walking Spoiler, Curse of the Guillotine, All-Loving Heroine, ostacrized for her birth, Big Eater, started off empty but develops her own ideals and desires, Conditioned to Accept Horror, Fish out of Temporal Water, Incorruptible Pure Pureness, the Twilight Beach, initially had no problem being naked but develops modesty around Ren, Our Ghosts Are Different, The Pollyanna, Only one who could kill Mercurius during the 4th era, Became a Hadou God, one of the most benevolent Gods, Rinne Tensei, also granted Hajun's wish

  • Allies: Ren Fujii, Madoka Kaname, Artoria Pendragon, Erma Williams, Mercurius, Obi-Wan, Katara, Jeanne, Jeanne D'Arc, Cosmos, Whis
  • Interests: Charles Henri-Sanson
  • Concerned about(has no enemies): Janemba, Cassius Ballad, Magasarion, Nerose Satanael, Mithra
  • Pities: Hajun, Wolfgang Schreiber, William Ehrenberg
  • Evil Counterpart: Charkravartin

  • During the height of France's Reign of terror, there was a man set to be executed in front of a crowd. When the executioner did not come, everyone still wanted the man dead, but none wanted to actually perform the deed. However, one man in the crowd, urged by his laboring wife, volunteered to do the grisly deed. At that same moment, the wife gave birth to Marguerite Breuilh. Born under the guillotine, Marie was mute for ten years, until she suddenly started singing about filling guillotines with blood, as well as manifesting a curse that decapitated all who touched her. Her father abandoned the family, her mother went insane, and she was executed as a witch via the same guillotine that she had been born under 17 years ago. But death would not be the end, as her powerful soul ascended to become a Godou god, and she became stranded in her realm, the Twilight Beach, outside of time for all eternity.
    • It was at this time that Mercurius, going by the name of Count Calistrogo, found Marie in the Twilight Beach and became convinced that she was the key for him to die. In order to ascend her as a true Hadou God, he created his greatest opera, a story involving the fight between the Longinus Dresden Orden against Ren Fuji and his friends. It worked, as thanks to her new experiences and bond with Ren she became the Fifth God to take the throne and created an era of unprecedented prosperity and happiness for the throne system through her system of coexistence and reincarnation.
    • However, good things do not last forever. Her world of affirming people's desires allowed Hajun to rise in power, convinced that it was the twilight's embrace that was infringing on his solitude. While Mercurius was able to start again and prevent Hajun's rise in a different scenario, this version of Marie died to Hajun and became another sacrifice for the "Pantheon" plan.

  • Marie once served as a herald to both Mercuruius and Ren, but this obviously led the two to start arguing who should have her more often. In order to defuse the conflict, Marie moved herself and The Twilight Beach to an entirely new temple and applied to become the Goddess of Kill exclusivity, representing the power of her Guillotine Curse. This definitely solved the former issue, but now when Ren and Mercurius visit at the same time a fight always seems to break out.

  • Naturally, Marie is the closest to Ren Fujii. It's not technically confirmed if the two are in a relationship, but it's pretty obvious that something is going on. If someone wants to try to get Ren to do something, the wise choice is often not to ask him directly but to try to convince Marie. There's also the matter of Mercurius, who is also incredibly devoted to Marie, although probably not in the romantic sense. Marie trusts Calostrogo/Mercurius, but also questions whether his plan to ascend her was too complicated and dangerous. While one would think that Marie would oppose the LDO members in the Pantheon, but she doesn't: she's seen their reincarnations and knows that they have the potential to be better people; she just hopes that they don't do worse things in the Pantheon. When it comes to her killer Hajun, Marie isn't the least bit hateful: she instead pities his nature, and hopes that he can find at least a little bit of peace in the Pantheon. Marie isn't very familiar with the other Hadou Gods, but knows that Nerose Satanael, Mithra, and Magasarion created worlds of suffering and oppression, and so tries to keep them from doing anything drastic that might affect the Pantheon or even the multiverse beyond. When it comes to the Hadou Gods not in the Pantheon, she's interested in what Hirume has in store, as the new girl is also combining parts of previous laws into an afterlife system.

  • While Ren and Shirou Emiya are rivals, Marie gets along well with her fellow blond-haired visual novel heroine Saber. It also helps that they're both gluttons. One time, a restaurant had an "infinite soup" offer, and the two goddesses tried to take advantage of it. Needless to say, the two took the offer literally and spent nearly the entire day there before being dragged out by Ren and Shirou. It's considered a miracle that the restaurant survived.

  • As a mortal who became a multiversal goddess that granted souls salvation by rewriting the laws of reality, Marie is often compared to the Goddess of Hope herself, Madoka Kamane. However, due to a stroke of fate, they had never met until Madoka's powers were stolen during the Rebellion. Thanks to their similar backgrounds and personalities the two are like peas in a pod: Marie hopes that she can help Madoka avoid her bad ending and make up with Homura, and Madoka is glad to have another friend that sees her as an equal and not an idol. Thanks to their friendship, Madoka has introduced Marie to more modern conveniences like video games and foreign teas, which Marie greatly appreciates. While Rinne Tensei is not a replacement for the Law of Cycles, Marie's presence makes the other Magical girls of the sisterhood feel relieved that divine power is still on their side.
    • The comparison between Marie and Madoka has led to homucifer supporters to come up with an interesting argument known as the "Hajun Hypothesis". The argument goes that if Homura did not take Madoka's powers, her position as goddess would have made her a target for unknown third parties (like how Hajun emerged). Critics have pointed out that not having god powers makes her more vulnerable to these threats, so the effort is useless at least. Marie has yet to comment on this matter.

  • Why did Mercurius think that Marie was the only one able to kill him? It all has to do with her Guillotine curse, which decapitates those who touch her (unless it is Ren or someone close to him). This curse bypasses regenerative abilities to kill the target, and can only be beaten by either having exponentially more power or an ability that specifically allows the user to survive death. She doesn't have enough power at the moment to kill deities like Aldia or SCP 682, but it's still incredibly strong. The Death Seekers of the Pantheon seek her out so that she can end her misery. While she can't really do anything for ascended deities besides consoling them, she does try to help unfortunate mortal souls reincarnate into a better position if possible.
    • Her curse also makes her a sort of counterpart to SCP-049, who can also kill at a touch. One time, he tried to kill her her in order to "cure" her, but when she was touched it was the doctor's head that fell off instead.

  • As one of the more benevolent Hadou Gods and an ally of the side of Good, Marie became interested in Cosmos, the current leader of the GUAG. Marie is impressed at how the goddess is able to get so many different heroes from different worlds and walks of life to work together and pledged her assistance if it was needed. Cosmos appreciates the gesture, and the two have talked for long periods of time at Cosmos's tea parties. One thing that struck Marie's interest about Cosmos's story was how Shinryu set up the conflict between her and Chaos in order to gain strength. Marie wonders [[Main/Foreshadowing if there is also someone behind the throne system setting up the different Hadou Gods]].

  • As an indirect victim of the Reign of Terror, Marie is interested in meeting with other French deities, especially those who lived during the time of the first French Revolution. She is especially surprised that Queen Marie Antoinette is in the Pantheon, and pities her for how the public distorted her image due to their hatred for the monarchy. Charles Henri-Sanson is interested in Guillotine Curse and connection to Margueritte-Bois de Justice, but he understands that she allows Ren to use in that way and mostly leaves her be. Marie has befriended both Jeanne the Witch and Jeanne D'Arc, who were also french women killed for accusations of witchcraft with varying levels of truth. Speaking about France, Marie's story was actually recorded into an old French urban legend L'enfant de la perdition (The Child of Retribution). After learning of the value of life, she heavily regrets accidentally killing all those people.

  • Her Law, Rinne Tensei, has two main precepts: Allowing people to reincarnate in order to have another chance at fulfilling their desires, and allowing multiple Hadou Gods to exist at the same time. This makes her the good counterpart to Chakravartin: while the Golden seeks to trap souls into the cycle of Samsara in order to control them, Marie created reincarnation as a way to give people second chances and make their dreams come true. For the most part it worked as discrimination between types of people decreased and souls grew and matured. In general, Rinne-Tensei is seen as a middle point between pure adherence to the status quo and trying to force a utopia, as it does not affect the course of mortal life but instead the cosmic stakes over doing good and evil. However, that does not mean that she has critics: Cassius Ballad thinks that Marie is somehow responsible for the constant death and reincarnation of his lover Yuel, and wants to kill her like he did [[spoiler: Etro, although it would be much harder. Then there is the matter of Janemba, a demon formed from the evil accumulated in the soul-cleansing machine of the Dragon Ball universe's hell. Marie sees that her system isn't perfect, and is coming up with ways to reduce its drawbacks. When it comes to the second property, her law makes her sort of the The Heart of the Hadou gods, and she tries her best to resolve conflicts and reduce collateral damage. But when it comes to individuals as crazy and powerful as them, it's an uphill battle.

  • While she has gained a lot of self-awareness and social skills from when she was singing about guillotines, she still remembers how the people around her shunned her due to fear and hatred. For that reason, she is sympathetic to people whose innocent but creepy traits have made them pariahs. One example is Erma Williams, a kind ghost girl who still creeps people out without meaning to. Marie has become good friends with the girl, and thinks that she has the potential to do a lot of good when she grows up.

  • When she was a Godou/Transcendence God, the Twilight Beach was her own personal domain that exists outside of space and time. Although it's unknown whether she created it, she is the eternal master of the space. While she prefers to spend her time with others, she has often found that multiversal travelers like SCP-507 end up there and sometimes even require help to get out. After Mercurius mentioned the Milliways restaurant, Marie had the idea to possibly renovate the etherial space into a rest stop for travellers. She is currently looking for partners and contractors.

  • Now that she has a lot of free time in the Pantheon, Marie has been thinking about her reign on the throne and what she could have done differently(a rarity for Hadou Gods). Although it would be against her nature to force Hajun to bend to her will, she acknowledges that she could have been assertive instead of leaving everything to her guardians. Therefore, she has resolved to learn how to fight so she can stand up for herself without Ren having to defend her all the time or going against her law/nature. note It was a trouble learning techniques that didn't immediately invoke the Guillotine Curse, but a goddess with her reputation had no trouble finding teachers:
    • After hearing about how the conflict between the Light Side and Dark Side was similar to the world of the First Throne, Marie approached Obi-Wan Kenobi in hopes of learning how to use a lightsaber, which would still be less lethal than normal contact. While Marie wasn't suited to using lightsabers, she was still able tp pick up a bit of knowledge about Obi-Wan's defensive strategy of outlasting the opponent to expose mistakes.
    • Next was the waterbender Katara, who focuses on redirecting her opponent's energy back at them. Marie doesn't have the talent to waterbend nor manipulate any elemental powers, but the idea of manipulating energy stuck in her mind.
    • During a party, Marie happened to meet Whis, an angel who is known for teaching Goku and Vegeta godly techniques. Marie asked Whis to train her in ways to defend herself whenever he had free time, and he agreed if Marie cooked something for him (and also because Zeno though her powers were cool). After Marie managed to figure out how to make a parfait, Whis started giving Marie short classes on martial arts. Due to her lack of experience progress is slow, it is consistent and Marie has now learned to do things like anticipate enemy strikes and strategically summon her Kumigara for attacks. Whis thinks that she may also have the potential to learn Autonomous Ultra Instinct, though only as a technique instead of a form like Goku.

Edited by RadioRavenRide on May 21st 2024 at 11:15:13 AM

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#208000: May 21st 2024 at 11:57:39 PM

@Menace: [tup] for moving Yuki.

Also, there aren't enough characters on my NPC sandbox to warrant a separate Pantheon page, unless there are characters we could move from other halls.


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