Welcome to the Trope Pantheons thread! Please read the rules:
- When writing a profile, take note of the following:
- The very first thing any contributor should do before working on an idea or a profile is to propose and nominate the idea on the Trope Pantheons discussion thread
. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning, a paragraph of reasoning to justify taking a trope should be sufficient. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Attempting to work on ideas without a nomination and at least one net thumbs-up will not be accepted regardless of how much you have written already. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
- If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. For reworks in particular, nominate the idea as you would with new characters or profiles. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
- In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread
. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user, either in the Pantheon or the Sandbox sections.
- In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread
- If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters. Some real-life individuals, including content creators (fictional content created by them is still fair-game, but do not bring up the creators themselves in such cases), may be considered disqualified for profiles due to controversies that would make them concern the Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment. To determine where a current creator would be disqualified:
- Wait for at least a month after the latest significant update for a creator's controversy before any decision can be made. If a confirmation from the questioned creator (or associates) themselves occurs, then wait for a week.
- Immediate disqualification for either a guilty sentence in a significant court case against the creator, or evidence of consistently repeated, deliberate, and/or intentionally provocative hate speech and advocacy of dehumanizing perspectives, with lesser examples warranting caution instead.
- For creators with a clear persona of their character disclosed before any scandal, the persona can have a profile with no mentioning of their real-life information. Ambiguous existence of a persona would have to be discussed further hand for anything more decisive.
- For obvious reasons, gods cannot be followers, high priests, or heralds. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
- No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
- You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
- The very first thing any contributor should do before working on an idea or a profile is to propose and nominate the idea on the Trope Pantheons discussion thread
- When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
- When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
- You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread
in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
- For new and reworked deities, 3
means the profile will have a one-week waiting period.
- For new and reworked deities, 4
is a 3 day waiting period.
- 5
is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
- Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
- For new and reworked deities, 3
- For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions Expansion, the following rules apply:
- For new Treasures or Dominions, 3
is a 3 day waiting period.
- 4
is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
- For new Treasures or Dominions, 3
- Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be one flavor text.
- The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like to look like Character Shilling.
- Every troper new to the Pantheon is barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles, this means avoiding the usage of "
" or "
".
- Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
- Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for the deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
- Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
- On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others. After all, no one is responding to their idea.
- You can also adopt a profile or idea to work on from another contributor by messaging a request to them (preferably through private messages). Even if you get their permission, you still have to announce your adoption to the forum. Note that if the idea wasn't nominated in the first place you still have to properly nominate it.
- When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
- Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to note in a trope example that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, correct the situation by deleting the offending text. This goes for any non-Pantheon page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Pantheon.Good And Evil Colors.
- Do not bring things that would incite fights; hot topics and 'urgent' news are not pertinent to the Pantheon's mission. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight each other, so don't suggest things that go in that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
- To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
- Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.
- When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
- Please refer to Text Formatting Rules when writing a profile, since understanding how to make and edit site pages in general is a necessity for working on profiles or other Pantheon content. Additionally, if you are not experienced with English, refer to this forum page
, as proper English spelling and grammar is expected.
- All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also, be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
- The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
- A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
- If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in another House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity at most.
- For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part of their series' official soundtracks from the media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters' appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
- For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlight a character's behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute it to the original artist. Due to the website's dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website
is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too many bytes, it is suggestible to use this site
to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, run the compressed image through other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikis to look for better images, as even wikis for the series might not contain good official images.
- Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that make sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
- Please refer to Text Formatting Rules when writing a profile, since understanding how to make and edit site pages in general is a necessity for working on profiles or other Pantheon content. Additionally, if you are not experienced with English, refer to this forum page
- Pantheon Content:
- Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
- As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally an expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entirely from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
- Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well-advised not to abuse them. The only house where trope-less profiles are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
- For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
- Do not write in self-promotion or blatant advertising. Minor references to something are fine but writing that clearly intends to advertise something will not be given toleration.
- Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
- For Profile Standards:
- Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place, or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
- Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
- A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
- Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending on if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
- On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
- Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
- A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
- Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
- Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
- A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
- Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.
- Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warper deities capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
- Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warper deities that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
- Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low-level Reality Warper beings capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
- Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
- Demigods: Badass Normal citizens of the pantheon, making up for their lower status with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
- Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.
- An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
- Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on the representation of power mentioned above.
- Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
- Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud
or YouTube
.
- Alignment: Good, evil, neutral, etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here; the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignments to characters that don't have an alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
- For Pokémon deities only:
- Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
- Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
- Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
- Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
- Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
- Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
- High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case the deity would be unavailable, incapacitated, dead, or otherwise incapable of carrying out their duties. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
- Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
- Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
- Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
- Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
- Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either from their perspective or yours.
- Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
- Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
- Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
- Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
- Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly oppose or are opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects", "On Good Terms With", and/or "Commonality Connection") in terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
- Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
- Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
- OPTIONAL NOTE FOR CHARACTER RELATIONSHIPS: Should the list for Character relationships (IE. Allies, Enemies, etc.) become too big, categorize a certain number of characters to a specific group putting them on a sublist (One example: Luigi is from the same world as his brother Mario, hence Luigi should be fall under the Super Mario Bros sublist.)
- Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part, the order is irrelevant:
- The Ascension Text: This is the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
- The Bio: A brief synopsis of the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
- Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
- And some more trivia/facts.
- And a couple more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.
- An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
- Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
- Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
- Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
- Domains: Things that the place has links to.
- Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as to where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
- Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
- Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
- And some more trivia/facts.
- And a couple more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.
- An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
- Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
- Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
- Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
- Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
- Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
- Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
- Domains: Things that the item has links to.
- Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as to where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
- Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
- Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
- And some more trivia/facts.
- And a couple more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.
Edited by Tabs on Jun 24th 2024 at 7:51:43 AM
It's probably fine to talk about them nowish, but I think that including them in profiles should be handled like work sin the HPS; wait a bit before putting it in, especially if it's a serialized work because more info might come out in the future issues.
@Nitro
Hmm... the Playable Characters Hall looks like it could get full soon. Maybe there can be a Hall for Mon tropes? That could probably fit in Otherness than Gaming as those tropes don't seem to be exclusive to games.
SING TO ME, LEND ME THE SONG OF BLASPHEMYLet's see if I can get a few more thumbs for Geronimo here. The time-traveling adventures aren't explained because I never read the Journeys through time spin-offs and I'm also speed-reading a lot of his Kingdom of Fantasy books (and I can't borrow Heromice online)
Thumbs-Up Mode
Geronimo Stilton, God of Spin Offs (Geronimo Superstilton, Gerry-Berry, Gerrykins, Uncle G, 00G, Knight, Sir Geronimo of Stilton, Quartzy, Music Mouse, Prince Fearless of the Winged Ones, Professor | Foolish One, the Mouse Who Lost the Winged Ring, Mister Shameful, Mister Honorless [the last three were temporary after he lost the Winged Ring])
- Thumbs: 2 - neoamon, Excessive-Menace
- Potential House: Media and Connectivity, Sub-House: Forms of Media
- Demigod (Lesser God as Geronimo Superstilton)
- Alignment: Neutral Good
- Theme Song: The opening to his animated series
- Symbol: His face in a circle or a copy of The Rodent's Gazette
- Portfolio:
- Normally: Cowardly Lion, the sane one in his family, gets annoyed when others mispronounce his name, becomes super protective of his nephew, usually gets dragged along to any adventure (much to his annoyance), Weirdness Magnet, adopted into the Stilton family. Sharp Dressed Mouse, his surname is based off of the Stilton cheese
- His animated adaptation: doesn't wear glasses like his book counterpart, much more open-minded than his main self, no supernatural and fantasy elements found, Crouching Moron, Hidden Badass, runs a media corporation instead of a newspaper.
- As Geronimo Superstilton: still learning how to use his superpowers, transforms using a special pen, can summon numerous types of cheese-related attacks that are pretty badass when applied properly, Flight
- Domains: Mice, Journalism, Adventure (reluctantly), Cowardice, Spin-Offs, Uncles, Adoption
- Heralds: Thea Stilton (his sister), Trap Stilton (his cousin) and Benjamin Stilton (his nephew)
- Allies: Jack and Annie, Wirt and Greg, Matilda Wormwood, Twilight Sparkle, The Equestria Girls, Clark Kent, Peppino Spaghetti, Takumi Aldini, Ned Needlemeyer, Miles Morales, Mystery Incorporated, Scrappy-Doo, Fred Flintstone, Donald Duck, Courage the Cowardly Dog, Dragonite
- Fellow mice: Mrs. Brisby, Chip and Dale, Mickey Mouse, Remy, Bernard and Bianca, Basil and Dawson, Fievel Mousekewitz, Gadget Hackwrench, Monterey Jack
- Fellow journalists and reporters: Luka Redgrave, Carly Nagisa, Lois Lane, Archie Andrews, Jimmy Olsen, James, Sarah, Henri, and Moses, Tintin
- Enemies: Evil cat deities, La Squadra Esecuzioni, Cioccolata, Penelope Mouse, Ratigan
- Villainous reporters: Aya Shameimaru, Louis Bloom, Diana Christensen
- Fears: Ryuk, The Beast, Old Bill Cole, Rem
- Commonality Connection: Will Vandom, Charlie the Unicorn
- Conflicting Opinion: Thieves and Good-aligned Cat deities
- My name is Stilton, Geronimo Stilton! I run The Rodent's Gazette, Mouse Island's most famous newspaper. I was just in my office preparing for another day of work when I was given a mysterious letter that told me of something called a Pantheon and I was given a seat as a god there. But, this is ridiculous! I couldn't be chosen to become a deity. I'm not strong or brave or have magic powers...and yet something inside of me said I should try it out and see where it goes. Nevertheless, I'm no stranger to adventures, so I decided to pack my bags and see what was in store for me. I'm sure everyone back home will be thrilled with the stories I bring back!
- Thus Geronimo Stilton found himself being led to his new temple in the House of Narrative as the gods found out that he has a LOT of stories
that would take a few years for anyone to go through. Geronimo was both excited and terrified of the experience, afraid that he'll be permanently separated from everyone he loves. Thankfully this wasn't the case: he was able to bring his sister, cousin, and nephew as his heralds and he's still allowed to drop by his home world. Geronimo let out a sigh of relief as he decided to prepare a new book series about his adventures in the Pantheon. Also, for some odd reason, his appearance and personality alters slightly: the normal Geronimo wears glasses and usually wants nothing to do with adventure, along with his world being involved with the supernatural and fantasy, whereas another version (the one in his profile image) has him ditch the glasses, be less nervous about adventure but dismisses the supernatural and and runs the Geronimo Stilton Media Group.
- Thus Geronimo Stilton found himself being led to his new temple in the House of Narrative as the gods found out that he has a LOT of stories
- Gods have been categorizing the numerous spin-offs Geronimo has been involved in (or at least the spin-offs of different characters and different worlds). These include spin-offs based on his "crush" Creepella von Cacklefur solving mysteries with her relatives, his sister Thea (or rather the students called "The Thea Sisters") going around the world solving mysteries and having adventures at Mouseford Academy/having their own fantastic adventures, a collection of epic fantasy stories where Geronimo is tasked by the Queen of Fairies to save the Kingdom of Fantasy, stories involving his cavemice ancestors, stories of an alternate Geronimo in adventures through outer space, a viking-spinoff where the land is besieged by mice-eating dragons, adventures where Geronimo travels through time, classic stories but retold through Geronimo and his friends, and one where he's a heromouse in Muskrat City. For the sake of clarity, and to avoid numerous headaches and gods having to read every single book printed, Geronimo's profile will be based on the series/spin-offs that actually has him as the protagonist: the main series, his animated adaptation, his adventures as a Heromouse, a knight in the Kingdom of Fantasy, and his journeys through time.
- Geronimo's favorite House is the House of Knowledge which boasts the largest collection of books ever. He's known to carry a stack of books back to his temple to pour over. Of course, he was also amazed to find the children's section of the House has an entire wing filled with every story from his world and constantly updates itself every time story has been published (it also somehow has graphic novel versions of he adventures his animated counterpart has gone through). He gets along well with those who love reading classic literature, like Matilda Wormwood and Twilight Sparkle, where Geronimo was amazed at how Twilight used to live in a library (before it was destroyed by Tirek). Speaking of ponies, he befriended Fluttershy as she's also into reading (although this was after Fluttershy stopped cooing at him for how "cute" he looked...and then how he looked in confusion over how she's friends to non-sentient mice) and even shared copies of the Geronimo/Thea Stilton Classic Tales to see what she made of it. He also met up with the Equestria Girls as their adventures and closeness remind him of his sister Thea Stilton and her students, the Thea Sisters. The only difference being that the Equestria Girls have superpowers which they use to stop others who have been corrupted with magic while the Thea Sisters usually go through magical worlds to help others but otherwise are normal (or at least, he hasn't been aware that the Thea Sisters have become superheroes
as of late)
- In truth, due to his adventures in the Kingdom of Fantasy, Geronimo wasn't surprised to meet up with talking ponies, pegasi, or unicorns. One kingdom he ventured into was the Kingdom of Blue Unicorns — although they were mislabeled and should be alicorns instead — who had numerous fountains with different abilities like love, fortune, and healing. He is grateful that the Equestrian deities have given him something other than hay and clover to snack on. He gets along best with Charlie the Unicorn, as the grumpy unicorn also had to be dragged on adventures he didn't want (and had one of kidneys removed for the trouble). He's also fond of Dragonite because the Delightful Dragon reminds him of the friendly Dragon of the Rainbow who aided Geronimo in his travels.
- Through reasons never revealed, Geronimo is capable of transforming into a superhero called Geronimo Superstilton with a special pen he keeps for emergencies. While he's still his normal self, Geronimo's powers are something quite unheard of. Aside from the standard flight, whatever he shouts in his fits of panic will come true. There are a few drawbacks: he doesn't know what exactly will be summoned until he says it, and everything he conjures up usually involves cheese. However, this also means he can confuse opponents because they have no idea what they're up against, whether it'd be a rain of mozzerella balls, a shower of a cheesy milkshake, or being flattened by a giant Swiss cheese wheel. The House of Heroes have embraced him as an honorary superhero though, and Geronimo has been thankful by their kindness and heroics. No surprise that he gets along well with Clark Kent/Superman the most, since they're both journalists as their day jobs. This also meant he became friends with Lois Lane and Jimmy Olsen as the two remind him of his sister and cousin. Geronimo has bonded with Jimmy over how he's gained (and lost) superhero abilities time and time again.
- Naturally as the cheese he creates when he uses his super powers is real, he becomes annoyed when he's asked to use them for food parties or the like. On the other hand, cheese-lovers and Big Eaters are quite grateful for the feast, especially the likes of Kirby. Wallace is hoping that Geronimo can next time summon some Wensleydale with his powers. He does get along with Miles Morales, who helps him to better weaponize his cheesy powers.
- As Geronimo Stilton's books were first written in Italy, he's been trying to find numerous Italian gods to hang out with. He immediately learned which Italian deities to run away from: La Squadra Esecuzioni and Cioccolata. Geronimo knows that he's incapable of fighting them on his own, and even with the powers of Geronimo Superstilton, they're powerless against his Stands. He got along well with Pepperino Spaghetti and Takumi Aldini though, and Geronimo loves dropping by to have a taste of their cooking. However even he admits that Pepperino's anxiety meltdowns terrify him. Sure, Geronimo is a scaredy-cat, but he's managed to keep his cool even when plunging into danger. He also gained common ground with Will Vandom (her series was created in Italy as well) as her magical powers and abilities would fit right at home in the Kingdom of Fantasy.
- He's actually a secret agent in his world, 00G. He hasn't been in a lot of action, but he respects deities who are also talented spies like James Bond and Nick Fury. However, he notes that he's not suited for combat and would rather work as Mission Control doing research where it's nice, safe, and he's not at a high risk of dying. Gods do point out that he has a few martial art moves under his belt so he can defend himself, to which he replies, "Martial arts can't save you from guns!"
- Thanks to his good friend, Professor Paws von Volt, Geronimo has been capable of traveling through time using a time machine. This has made him good friends with Jack and Annie as they have many similarities — they come from long-running children's book series, they have adventures through time and fantasy and love reading. Geronimo was amazed to learn how the Magic Treehouse was created by Morgan le Fay as a way to venture into the books she loved, while Jack and Annie are curious as to how Geronimo has been decreed a hero in the Kingdom of Fantasy and which time periods they have/haven't traveled. They also found it amusing how both groups had theatrical
adaptations
based on their adventures.
- Glad to learn he's not the only scaredy-cat in the Pantheon. He became something akin to a uncle-figure to Wirt, who is also known to be afraid of the unknown and that they have similar tastes in music and architecture, to which Wirt is a consultant for 18th-19th century architecture and costumes. Geronimo was amazed to learn of the Unknown and how Wirt defeated the Beast not through magic or strength, but with his brain, although he also was terrified from some of the other creatures Wirt encountered like Enoch and Auntie Whispers. He also bonded with Ned Needlemeyer whose hyper-imagination creates horrible nightmares in his sleep. Geronimo admits to Ned that he is always afraid for his life, but he always has his friends and family to push forward. He also gets along well with Mystery Inc, as he's had a hand in fighting off many mysteries with a few of them being a "Scooby-Doo" Hoax. He loves eating cheese with Shaggy and Scooby although he admits that he doesn't need to be bribed with food to push forwards. Of course, Geronimo later learned that the Beast made it to the Pantheon, praying on Geronimo's fears of the dark to make him a new lantern-bearer. Thankfully, Wirt dragged him away in time and also warned Geronimo to avoid Old Bill Cole who also turned innocent victims into trees.
- Geronimo also bonded with Shaggy over how they both gained superpowers after he learned the legend of "Ultra Instinct Shaggy" and how it led to Shaggy duking it out with other deities. He gets along most with Velma (who also got into the same brawl Shaggy engaged in) for being the brains and Only Sane Man of the group whereas Daphne reminds him of his sister, Thea. He's also one of the few gods who actually tolerates Scrappy-Doo; being an uncle himself, he tends to see a bit of Benjamin in Scrappy. Scrappy was grateful that Geronimo liked him and vowed to defend him from any and all threats with some puppy power.
- Is scared out of his whiskers over Ryuk when Geronimo found a Death Note on his desk. Geronimo immediately chucked the book out of his temple, knowing the dangers it will bring. Geronimo can be annoyed with others, especially his cousin, Trap, but he would NEVER wish anyone to be dead. Ryuk says it was such a shame; he was hoping to see how many deities Geronimo could've killed if he wrote them down in the Death Note like it was one of his stories. The other Shinigami, Rem, also terrify him, but thankfully she leaves him alone enough. Geronimo does pity her though, loyal to her master, Misa Amane, even if it means her death by writing it down on the Death Note to save her life. Geronimo is too scared to approach her, but he does have the courage to leave letters at her doorstep.
- Naturally, as a mouse, Geronimo was glad to find other mouse deities for him to hang with. If there was one he had no words for, it was Penelope Mouse for her betrayal towards the Cooper Gang. Sure, Geronimo doesn't have a good opinion on thieves, but he can make an exception for the Cooper Gang as they're thieves stealing from other criminals and look out for others, while Penelope looks out for herself. Penelope would find him beneath her...were it not for her learning about Geronimo's Superpen that gives him the ability to turn into a superhero. Geronimo glared at her, transformed into Geronimo Superstilton and shouted, "Not for the love of a thousand mozzerella balls!" Soon after, Penelope was pelted by (exactly) one thousand mozzerella balls and she vowed vengeance towards Geronimo. He did find companionship with the likes of Mrs. Brisby who is a sweet motherly figure like his Aunt Sweetfur and ends up in investigative work with the likes of detectives Basil and Dawson or rescue missions with Bernard and Bianca. And of course, no meeting of fellow mice wasn't complete without Mickey Mouse. Geronimo was awed to meet with a legend who had so many stories to tell and magical feats of his own. Mickey was quite humble and comforted Geronimo that he's quite amazing in his own world as well. Geronimo has also eaten at Remy's temple and was wowed at the dishes, leaving a five star review in his Pantheon edition of The Rodent's Gazette.
- While Geronimo's main temple is in the House of Media and Connectivity, the Sub-House of Investigative Work is his second home, as he can relate to numerous reporters. The first one he bumped into was Carly Nagisa, as she is a reporter who wishes to write stories that elevate people up instead of putting them down. Geronimo was happy to meet her and was amazed how her love (and glasses) saved the world from utter destruction. Then, he missed Luka Redgrave swinging by with his grappling hook pistol, trying to look stylish but tripped over his own two feet. Geronimo was awed to learn that Luka was the reincarnation of a real Fairy King and began rattling out all of the adventures he's had with fairies, particularly being the knight of Blossom, Queen of the Fairies. He also learned that Archie Andrews was a part-time reporter with his own article called "Archie's Weird Mysteries" which detail the strange and surreal adventures he's encountered, something that made Geronimo remind himself of his friend Creepella von Cacklefur. He's glad that he's never had to deal with the horrors Archie's encountered like turning into a love-obsessed zombie, seeing his friends be replaced by evil potato clones, or dealing with giant bees.But for every reporter who is on the side good, there are always the evil ones. He detests Louis Bloom and Diana Christensen for caring more about ratings instead of the truth, and has resisted the urge to use his skills as Superstilton to good use. Instead, he decided to just post articles about how he detests them, believing that to beat those who are corrupt, it's better to stand up to them.
- Because the Pantheon brings in deities from different time periods as well, Geronimo met up with James, Sarah, Henri, and Moses, journalists who were around during the Revolutionary War who tried to get reports on both sides of the war. Geronimo made sure to read every single copy of The Pennsylvania Gazette to see the war with fresh eyes while the four were given copies of The Rodent's Gazette for their reading pleasure.
- Like any mouse, he is terrified of cats so he avoids the Felines sub-house. However, he knows that not all cats are evil, the Thundercats being a prime example of them. He dislikes Katz for being irredeemably evil and has no qualms on murdering others. Katz finds Geronimo quite "sad" because terrifying Geronimo eventually loses its appeal, especially when Geronimo can quickly turn into Geronimo Superstilton and rain cheese on his parade. And even then, Katz loves to challenge Geronimo to games before he has the honor of killing him. One of the few felines Geronimo befriended was Tiger, since Tiger has a friendship with Fievel and is just as cowardly and timid as Geronimo himself. Geronimo is also a uncle figure for Fievel for how the mouse was separated from his family multiple times but somehow always miss him if they just looked a bit more. Fievel always comes to visit to hear many of Geronimo's stories. The same can't be said for Ratigan, who wanted to create a robot of the queen to replace the real one then kill her. Geronimo teamed up with Basil and Dawson to foil one of Ratigan's plots to create a double of Geronimo who went around smearing others and being a nuisance. Geronimo, having dealt with this plot in his own world, managed to corner the mastermind rat and laid him out with a punch, but not without remarking:
Geronimo: Oh and one more thing, paws off, Cheddarface!
- Geronimo ended up having plenty of talks with Fred Flinstone because of how Fred reminded Geronimo of his cavemice ancestor, Geronimo Stiltonoot
. Fred was amused to learn that there was an alternate world where mice were the ones interacting in the Stone Age and dinosaurs and pondered if it would be a good idea to swap his old job to be a writer. He and Fred also have talks about the time they were secret agents (or in Fred's case, he had to pretend he was an agent) although Fred's was the more dangerous one since it nearly ended with him trapped on the moon were it not for a fake diamond necklace he bought.
- Geronimo can't help but feel inspired by the Rescue Rangers being brave enough to fight crime around the world, while he just kinda stumbles into things and makes a fool out of himself. The Rescue Rangers state that Geronimo is brave in his own way, and his determinaton is an admirable trait. Geronimo bonded with Ratchet after learning that she is the leader of a secret organization, even showing off his credentials as agent 00G in his world. Gadget was ecstatic to find Geronimo as a secret agent and made Geronimo an official member of Mouse Watch. With Monterey, Geronimo can't help but see a combination of Trap (similar shape and love of cheese) with his sister, Thea (except he's an Ace Pilot while Thea loves her motorcycle). The two bond over their favorite cheese, with Monterey excited to learn of Geronmo's cheesy powers, particularly his rain of mozzerella balls.
- Geronimo was invited by Mystery Inc. to have dinner with Muriel Bagge since they see her as their honorary grandma, to which he was delighted. He was amazed at her cooking, even if she does have a tendency to put vinegar in her food. All was till until someone burst in wearing a green mask screaming, "OOGA-BOOGA-BOOGA!" Geronimo and a purple beagle named Courage screamed in horror before Muriel beat the mask-wearer (her husband) with a rolling pin. Eustace Bagge couldn't help but laugh at seeing the look on Geronimo's face but Geronimo quickly rolled his eyes. Eustace's antics are no different than what his cousin, Trap, does to him on a daily basis. He does respect Courage's bravery in the face of danger and how they were also adopted into their respective families (although Courage's adoption was much more heart-breaking than Geronimo's).
- Geronimo loved learning about Tintin's adventures since he's had just as adventurous of a life like Geronimo (minus the fantasy) although he's quite saddened that he doesn't do a lot of reporting. He is disturbed that Tintin's adventures are more mature, like him busting a drug ring. Geronimo is also a huge fan of Donald Duck. Not only because of his amazing feats — whether it's him in the navy, his adventures with Uncle Scrooge, or that time he unleashed a giant magic spell that annihilated Xehanhort — but also because Geronimo is one of the few who knows of Donald's super hero identity and him being a secret agent because those comics were printed in Italy (same as Geronimo's home series).
Who else is a petty jackass that abuses their position like Kamoshida, or is a realistic villain like him?
Suguru Kamoshida, God of Creepy Gym Coaches (Bastard King of Lust, Jersey-wearing Teacher, Mr Kamoshida)

- Note: Adopted from Iceaura39
- Hall: Teachers (House of School)
- Quasideity
- Symbol: His Olympic gold medal
- Theme Song: King, Queen and Slave
, Blooming Villain
- Alignment: Neutral Evil (forced to be True Neutral when his heart was stolen)
- Portfolio: A Truly Despicable Starter Villain, Dirty Old Man representing Lust, A Perverted, Lustful Gym Teacher Who Uses His Position To Extort Sex, Small Role, Big Impact, Narcissist and The Sociopath, A Cruel And Outright Malicious Teacher, The Grown Up Version Of The Big Dumb Jock, Jerkass at Your Discretion, Jaded Washout, Gym Class Hell, Hair-Trigger Temper, Glory Hound, Raped Ann Shiho (implied to not be a one-off), Stands Out As A Realistically Monstrous Individual...Until He Is Forced to Feel Empathy
- Domains: Lust, Rape, Creeps, Abuse, Cruelty, Sports, Ego
- Interested in: Jervis Tetch/the Mad Hatter
- Allies: Doctor Arthur Light, Zebediah Killgrave, Nobuyuki Sugou, Ethan Roark Junior and Senior, Freddy Krueger, Humbert Humbert, Dolores Umbridge, The Four Libertines, Wild Hunt
- Drinking buddies with: Judge Claude Frollo, Glenn Quagmire
- Teeth-Clenched Teamwork with: Agitha Trunchbull
- Enemies: The Phantom Thieves of Heart (with Ann Takamaki as his Arch-Enemy), S.E.E.S,, The Investigation Team, Hikari (Persona Q2), ''Iroque/Indigo-1, Doge, Cheems and Walter, Uncle Howee, Chris Hansen, Guts, Ringo Roadigan, Sakura Matou, Kenshiro, Raoh, Toki, The Scout, Tenko Chabashira, Austin Powers, Principal Krupp/Captain Underpants, Shoyo Hinata, Tetsuya Kuroku, The Headmasters and Student Representatives, Peter LaFleur and White Goodman, Timmy Turner, Denzel Crocker, Edna Krabappel, Seymour Skinner, everyone in the Vincennes Private Girls' Academy, both Yugis, Anzu Mazaki and Katsuya Jonouchi, [[Pantheon/AgeAndYouth Stephen and Lucy Steel, really any member of his own House not under allies, pretty much every teacher and student and any rape or assault survivor (attempted or successful)
- Opposed by: Bojack Horseman
- Barred entry from: The House of Sports
- Ignored by: Funny Valentine
- Suguru Kamoshida was a former professional athlete and Olympic volleyball champion who would find himself as the PE teacher of Shujin Academy. A lustful man defended from consequences due to his reputation and corruption by the principal, he has sexually harassed the female students on the volleyball team and is forcing Ann Takamaki to go out with him to keep Shiho on the team. He's not much better to the male students, putting them through hell with spiked volleyballs and other brutal "teaching methods". When he assaulted Shiho to get back at being rejected by Ann, his crimes would make him their first major target to have their heart change. After defeating his Shadow, representing the sin of Lust, his ego was broken and he was submitted to arrest and therapy for his narcissism. Despite being a Starter Villain, Kamoshida sets the standard for how dark the villains of Persona 5 are going to get, and he stands out being shockingly depraved despite his relatively down to earth villainy.
- Kamoshida's ascension was not expected to happen. After all, he had been Forced to Feel Empathy, so who in the right mind would deny the Phantom Thieves a hard-earned victory? Well, it was obviously going to be someone in the wrong mind. Melkor has long since seen their ability to steal people's Heart as one of the more insidious strategies on the side of Good, and a couple of Evil's followers wanted to "get even". Dr Lightnote and the Purple Man basically smuggled the disgraced PE teacher into the Trope Pantheon, and worked to reverse the change. The key word to restoring his personality was the Purple Man saying "be true to yourself". His first reaction upon being "restored to factory settings" was white-hot rage and humiliation about being subjected to what he considers a Fate Worse than Death. He immediately grabbed a nearby gun with murder on his eyes, only to scream in pain that he was feeling bad for past actions. As it turns out the anti-brainwashing wasn't complete; whenever he attempts to do something even more evil than normal like try to murder the Phantom Thieves or fantasize about Cold-Blooded Torture, the forced empathy briefly re-asserts itself and inflicts emotional duress on him. For now, Kamoshida has decided to just get used to his surroundings and enjoy that he is mostly "cured" of what they did to him.
- For those wondering why Melkor would bother bringing a nobody like Suguru Kamoshida into the Trope Pantheon, it's because he's a nobody. Suguru Kamoshida is ultimately a test subject in "Operation Re-blackened Heart", a grander scheme of restoring the evil within those who've been forced to change to good one way or another. He was picked by Dr Light and the Purple Man's request, to determine if it was a viable strategy for getting actually desirable allies. Kamoshida's resurfaced narcissism prevents him from realizing he's a glorified guinea pig and simply thinks he's important, boasting "I can do whatever the fuck I want" ala Homelander. Homelander was intrigued by him being the guinea pig as in the World of Movies a version of him known as Kamoshida-man appeared as a superhero that misused his powers and authority, like him. Homelander (more so the TV version), a man who is honestly a lot like him except much more ambitious, will be studying the first test of Operation Re-blackened Heart to ensure he has insurance should the Phantom Thieves of Heart manage to break into his Palace. S.E.E.S, Hikari and Investigation Team have seen this movie and with their already present alliance with the Phantom Thieves they plan to make Kamoshida wish he didn't ascend.
- He manages to earn the personal ire of all four of the founding Thieves: he lusts after Ann and drove her friend to attempt suicide, broke Ryuji's leg back when he was a track star, told everyone to spread rumors about the Protagonist both because he stood up to him and because he wanted to, and his Shadow would have executed Morgana had the Protagonist and Ryuji not intervened. A Psychopathic Manchild of an athlete, he thinks his past success makes him entitled to whatever he wants and despise the Phantom Thieves more than anything for having destroyed that sense of entitlement. Suguru Kamoshida despises brainwashers even if they have the best of intentions in doing so, though admittedly most are pretty bad people themselves. Personal insults are more why he hates those people than anything else, which is why he makes the exception for Killgrave; he wants his abilities for the worst kind of reasons. He also attempted to reach out to Jervish Tetch, trying to relate his obsession with Ann to his obsession with Alice. While the Mad Hatter is undoubtedly creepy, Tetch usually isn't a pedophile and it's more about wanting to live out the character role of the Mad Hatter.
- It didn't take long for him to barred entry from the House of Sports, on account for his sadistic training methods towards male students and being a sex offender. Any attempt to change his trope to "God of Volleyball" was met with scorn, and one of the only times LaFleur and Goodman will team up is to give Suguru Kamoshida a taste of his own medicine with dodgeball. The only reason he is not banned from the House of School as well is by virtue of his trope. With his true nature known, he is the most despised member of the house. Yes, the Death Busters are enemies of most of the Trope Pantheon because of their goal, but they still don't bring out the disgust that Suguru Kamoshida does. Far as Mao is concerned, he is worse than any demon. Absolutely no-one entertained the idea he shouldn't be permanently banned from the Vincennes Private Girls Academy, as putting such a disgraceful PE teacher near high school teenagers with play sports is disastrous. Masaya Okonogi will personally make sure he pays if he breaks the restraining order.
- He's a pariah in the Hall of Teachers and considered one of the worst teachers ever. Izumi Curtis calls out his "tough love" as an excuse to indulge in his sadism, and as someone with a tough but productive training regiment she can tell the difference. Eikichi Onizuka may be somewhat of a pervert but he'd never think to try and get fresh with the female students and has organized a brutal hazing ritual for his arrival. Despite being a major stickler for the rules and a total square, Seymour Skinner was so offended by Kamoshida's arrival he and Edna teamed up with Bart and other mischievous students to make him pay. Cacofonix, Cybersix and Getafix are also teachers, and they also intend to make him pay. As high school students who play sports, Shoyo Hinata and Tetsuya Kuroko are immediately on the offensive the moment he tries to come near to them to "teach". Really, the only member of the Hall of Students that even tolerates him (or really any student) is Biff Tannen, what with him being The Bully and an attempted rapist. Even then, the Older and Wiser 2015 Biff bemoans him as Stupid Evil.
- Frankly, even the other evil teachers detest him. Denzel Crocker might be a Sadist Teacher who seeks the power of FAIRY! GOD! PARENTS! but "pervert" is not a word to describe him, and he will actually aid Timmy Turner in making him pay. Kamoshida tried to reach out to Principal Krupp since as he was also brainwashed by students he thought he might sympathize with him, only to be called a sick bastard to his face by Krupp. His alter ego Captain Underpants will just kick his ass, and "making Kamoshida pay" is one of the few things both personas agree on.. One of his only allies in the House of School is the Trunchbull, and even then, she only tolerates him as a means of enforcing control over the students through fear. For all her faults, she's not a sexual predator. Umbridge agrees with that kind of method, though she has even less standards and is a straight up ally of Kamoshida. As Suguru Kamoshida used to be a follower of Agitha Trunchbull, he's annoyed that she's deciding to have standards now, as he hoped she would be his confidant in their house.
- Though his hatred of the Phantom Thieves of Heart is white-hot, it has reinforced an idea he hadn't thought off much before encountering them; there are things worse than death. Of course, the main reason he considers it worse than death is that feeling remorse for his crimes like a normal human being is so alien to his base personality. There are more objectively worse fates; in his early days, Yami Yugi dealt with a physically abusive coach with Shadow Games. Back in the day he was a big fan of paying evil unto evil and Suguru proves so heinous his friends would consider making him an exception; he is worse than any abusive teacher than they have encountered. The desire to make him pay has furthered with his alliance to the Four Libertines and Wild Hunt, particularly Cham[[Fat Bastard p who was a teacher that ended up being a serial killer and rapist akin to the notorious John Wayne Gacy. Though this inevitably puts him in Night Raid's crosshairs he is happy to associate himself with them due to wishing to indulge in the same deviant impulses. However whenever he tries to find something new by joining the Libertines in full on torture, he suffers migraines from the residual heart-stealing Operation Re-blackened Heart could not eliminate.
- Freddy Krueger mused that he once killed a Creepy Gym Coach, one Mr Schneider. This is notable in being one of the only victims of his that probably had it coming. Kamoshida doesn't have to worry about him passing judgement, though; Krueger is a child killer and implied (or explicit in the remakes) pedophile who used to work as a groundskeeper at a school. He gets along amicably with Kamoshida, as his own gimmick is using mental worlds to inflict suffering on his victims. Suguru Kamoshida dreams of one day having similar powers to get his revenge, though he can't focus on said revenge until he learns to quiet the Brainwash Residue that "speaks up" when he's feeling particularly violent. That said Kamoshida isn't a Card-Carrying Villain, if only because he can't accept responsibility. He's deluded himself into thinking he's God's gift to women, trying to play himself off as a rival to the Scout. The Scout heavily disagrees; despite Kamoshida's accusations his use of the "Track Terroizer"
puts him in suspicious territory, the Scout has limits in going after women and pointed out that wasn't canon
. He loathes Kamoshida for his crimes like most do.
- Given his trope, Suguru Kamoshida would get a surprise visit from Doge and the gang. They have their own "Coach Henry", though he usually benefits from being The Comically Serious and a Devil in Plain Sight because of the comedic nature of the Dogelore comics. Kamoshida didn't have the shield of being seen as "ironically wholesome", what with being a disturbingly realistic predator, so Cheems gave him a very much karmic and brutal bonking session. As brutal as this was, it was almost pleasant compared to the bludgeoning he got from Dokuro Mitsukai. A Creepy Gym Coach who's warped cognition sees those he lusts for (as in ''school girls") as brainless beauties makes him the number one target for her Pervert Revenge Mode. Not even death is an escape as she revives him just to do it again. While Kamoshida's hatred of the Phantom Thieves burns hotter than anything, his outlook on Dokuro is one of pure terror. This terror is followed by a fear of Tenko Chabashira who sees him as the personification of "degenerate males", and if she's not joining Cheems and Dokuro in bonking him she's watching it.
- Suguru Kamoshida was fairly popular with female students who haven't heard or don't believe the rumors about him. While he was capable of having more ethical hook-ups and relationships, like Glenn Quagmire, he's also a malignant narcissist and Dirty Old Man interested in teenagers. Comparisons could be made with him and Glenn Quagmire, with many noting the only reason Quagmire isn't seen as depraved as Kamoshida is because of tonal reasons, and to Quagmire's credit he tends to legitimately get along to people when not in pervert mode. The two are drinking buddies, though not friends since Quagmire would rather not get more negative attention by association and he does have some redeeming qualities, something you can't say about Kamoshida. Another drinking buddy of the disgraced athlete is Frollo, who has his own obsession with his Lust Object, but his entitlement is more of the self-righteous kind compared to the Bastard King of Lust. His Shadow's association with Asmodeus and the aforementioned self-righteousness prevents them from being anything more than drinking buddies. He tried being a drinking buddy with Austin Powers, wanting to bond over how they "pick up chicks", however the spy was livid at the attempt as yes, he's a shameless womanizer, but he'll always value the consent of his partner.
- Because of the reputation of sex offenders, he's a rather unpopular deity, if that wasn't clear already. There are plenty of other reasons not to like him, but that's usually what's brought up. Those who've been victimized hate him especially. Sakura Matou was raped by her foster family for years, and Guts was raped as a child and later saw his best friend turned arch-enemy rape his lover. Kenshiro, Raoh and Toki all loathe rapists and scum who prey on the vulnerable like him. As such, his very small friend group is mostly other sex offenders and outright rapists. After all, that's why the ones to "save" him were Arthur Light and Zebediah Killgrave; they have the same criminal lusts/desire to assert themselves, which has made them pariahs even amongst the supervillain community. Outside of those two, his closest friend is probably Nobuyuki Sugou, a depraved and lustful worm of a man who's position has made him an entitled Spoiled Brat like Kamoshida. The two often go to cocktail parties with the Yellow Bastard, who's daddy basically gives them asylum for their "habits". Ethan Roark Junior is so awful that Suguru Kamoshida can seen almost quaint by comparison, however the latter is seen as the more realistic villain. Their meet ups are down to "safety in numbers" more than anything. Shinji Matou is probably the only student who can stand Suguru Kamoshida because just like him, he's an insecure creep and predator. Shinji holds a distressingly casual dismissal of consent that's very much in keeping with Kamoshida, and the two pass off their abhorrent actions and working together to get hot girls.
- Kamoshida is trying to restore his reputation by taking advice from the pedophile Humbert Humbert, who projects him as "misunderstood", by making an autobiography where he tries to hide behind trying to cling onto whatever glory he has left and uses victim blaming, saying that they secretly wanted it. It's worth noting that he used to legitimately have a conscience at some point; he'd got fresh with a female reporter while drunk, and actually tried to beg for forgiveness and turn himself into the police. One of his corporate sponsors, however, helped cover it up and assured Kamoshida all was forgiven. So the "moral" of his ego-stroking autobiography Society Is to Blame so he should be absolved. Bojack Horseman wrote a scathing review of this book as a pathetic attempt to rationalize his actions on his path, which the sex offender thought was hypocritical. Bojack is well aware he doesn't have a moral high-ground, but he's come to realize being a Jaded Washout is not an excuse for his own toxic behavior, and he has been trying to work on improving himself. He sees Suguru Kamoshida as what he could've become had he lacked a desire to improve himself.
- Suguru Kamoshida is quite incensed by the fact that he is so despised yet Funny Valentine, who tried to rape a 14 year old, still has a lot of fans who even if (most) admit he's a villain, that he's seen as this stylish and charismatic villain. He's also quite annoyed that more eyes aren't put on Stephen Steel, who's in his fifties but married to said 14 year old. What he doesn't seem to get is that, while most agree Valentine's Attempted Rape was a low point, he has a lot of good points to his character and even if you disagree with his methods you can't deny he's a patriot to his cause. By contrast there's nothing redeeming to Kamoshida, and since he's a lot more realistic he stands out as all that more despicable. Funny Valentine for his part dismisses him as a clout-chasing burn-out, and Lucy Steel stepped up to her husband's defense by pointing out their marriage is completely platonic; he's not attracted to her at all. As Kamoshida's a craven rapist they detest him, and among the cast of SBR Ringo Roadigan would love to choke the life out of him the most. After all, he was almost raped as a child.
There's a broken pothole to Age and Youth in the Enemies section.
Edited by Excessive-Menace on May 19th 2024 at 7:46:45 AM
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Gentaro Kisaragi (he would befriend the same man who killed Kengo and caused the Zodiarts problems in his school) would really hate this guy as Kamoshida is a worse adult version of Hiroke Makise (he who wanted to sent a bus filled with twenty girls off an unfinished bridge to turn them into "stars" and went as far as to destroy the locker leading to the Rabbit Hatch just to make Yuki cry). Heck the Kamen Rider Club would despise him with Tomoko snarking that in the end, he's a misogynist.
I have two suggestions for deities if anyone's willing to listen
- Prince Wu for Big Ego, Hidden Depths. Wu looks like a pompous braggart who likes talking about himself, but Book 4 and the comics reveal that he's actually smarter than he looks and more willing to take criticism if need be. He tells Mako that he needed a reality check and believes he's not good of a ruler like he thinks he is, and he's also a capable tamer of Badgermoles.
- Lucifer for Bait-and-Switch Character Intro. Throughout the years leading up to the official series, the viewers don't know much about Lucifer aside from him being busy with Charlie to care about the hotel and that he did give her some advice ("You don't take shit from other demons"). But when we finally see him, he's not the proud overlord of hell...he's a short king who has a thing with rubber ducks suffering from depression and a Bumbling Dad extraordinare.
Okay, I can wait until then. What about Prince Wu?
Edited by Camilla on May 19th 2024 at 7:50:35 AM
Note to self: Never bet on Entei.
Hazbin Hotel is currently in the Hype Prevention Sandbox since it's an ongoing show with Season 2 in the works, so you can't work on HH!Lucifer right now.
EDIT: Abstaining on Wu.
Edited by Excessive-Menace on May 19th 2024 at 8:02:49 AM
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While Excessive Menace is correct, that's a great idea to consider when it leaves hype prevention. But like sequel trilogy characters (yeah, I've been doing this for a long time) you'll have to wait a while. But hey, I think with the people who made Rey and Kylo's profile, it's one way patience can pay off. Again, if it weren't on hype prevention I'd probably consider approving it
Prince Wu is not on hype prevention and I like what you have suggested, so I will give that idea a
Here's my Hall of Lineage. No
s mode, rather I am wondering if you think more or less deities should be part of it
Are there enough characters representing Mon tropes to make a hall for them?
Let's see...
- Kanto Starters: Starter Mon
- Pikachu: Signature Mon
- Creation Trio: Olympus Mons
- Monster Rancher cast: Mons
- Frontier Digidestined: Mon Mode
- Machamp: Hu Mons
Seems like there's enough to make a Mons Hall.
That sounds like a good name.
Edited by Excessive-Menace on May 19th 2024 at 11:44:46 AM
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For now, let's stick with Collectible Monsters. I'll be looking forward to the draft when it's up.
@RJ —
on the Hall Proposal, but I recommend you go with Ancestry and Lineage as the latter would also sound like something you'd expect from Legacy and Influence. Speaking of which, if you're writing a description of the Hall in the draft, you could probably mention that House for a possible connection/relationship.
@Camilla — Sorry, but I'm not feeling it for Wu
. Just from looking at it, it seems the hidden depths part of Wu doesn't strike as particularly big regarding his character + there are several other characters who would fit Big Ego, Hidden Depths just as well, if not, moreso than Wu does.
Bringing this up, but I have been watching Attack on Titan for the past few months with my brother and sister-in-law. In lieu of that + the series being in a derelict state in the Pantheon, I've got some ideas that could probably work out...
- Eren Yeager — The Wall Around the World
- Much of AoT's setting takes place in a walled city where the main protagonist, Eren, resided for the entirety of his childhood. There's also a justification for this; the world is populated with giant humanoid titans who are ferocious and have a voracious appetite for human flesh and are responsible for driving humanity to endangerment given their large sizes and seemingly being indestructible. While Eren is attached to his home, he's also disgruntled by being holed up and wants to explore the world, showing a sign of adventure and awe that goes against his confinement in a walled, fortified city. Coincidentally, this overlaps pretty well with Eren's goal of wanting to kill every titan as his response to them destroying his home and killing his mother.
- Mikasa Akerman — Scarf of Asskicking
- Mikasa is a member of the 104th Trainee Corps and easily the most talented, capable, and deadliest of the recruits that have been trained there, displaying great finesse and skill in taking on titans as well as being adept in close-quarters combat. On another note, Mikasa's most notable accessory is a red scarf that she likes to wear almost all the time. The scarf has a personal meaning to her as it was a gift from Eren as his way of comforting her after the aftermath of her parents' murder and it ties back nicely with Mikasa's incredibly protective and affectionate relationship with Eren.
- The Warrior Trio — The Mole
- The Warrior Trio consists of Reiner Braun, Bertolt Hoover, and Annie Leonhart, a trio of recruits in the 104th Trainee Corps. Initially, they seem to be seen as reliable combatants, with Reiner and Bertolt being quite affectionate of the other members whom they see as friends. However, they're actually soldiers of Marley and holders of the Armoured, Colossal, and Female Titans respectively, who were sent to Paradis Island to eliminate whom the Marleyans saw as "island devils". They kickstarted the Fall of Shiganshina and then posed as war refugees in order to further infiltrate their enemy's territory from within, hoping to strike from within and accelerate the effectiveness of their goals as much as possible by being discreet about it, even if it took years. Even if they found genuine attachment in the other scouts, their mission to destroy Paradis and its population came first and foremost and they're adamant about carrying it out under the name and pride of Marley
I'm aware that Eren has Our Hero Is Dead, but I honestly feel that because it's a very early twist that gets wrapped up pretty quickly, I decided to go for another trope that better illustrates the circumstances of the series' setting as well as referencing Eren's goals in some capacity. Similarly, Annie Leonhart has More Deadly Than the Male, but the trope seems to be of dubious use at best as Reiner and Bertolt seem to be just as capable both as soldiers and as titans + having all three under one trope might work better for trope sustainability.
Edited by CrimsonShark on May 20th 2024 at 2:11:13 PM
WHERE IS KRYPTO, I mean, WHERE IS THE DOG!!!Rough draft for Black Jack's rework. A doctor who has experienced terrible scenarios such as war and human corruption multiple times throughout his medical career, but remains determined to save his patients' lives no matter what. Other things of note about him:
- One of his more prominent medical rivals is Kiriko, a doctor who euthanizes his patients whenever he believes there is no hope for them to recover (that and it's the choice of his clients). This is a mindset that BJ disagrees with to the point of equating it with killing someone.
- He has an adopted surrogate daughter named Pinoko, who has born from the tumor of one of his patients and after said patient disowned Pinoko upon seeing her, BJ adopted Pinoko and she has become his assistant.
- BJ and Pinoko ended up on the run from a shadowy organization that created the deadly Phoenix Disease in an attempt to unlock eternal life (one of the members later wanted to profit off a potential vaccine once the disease started to spread). The organization wanted them dead and was connected to the accident that caused BJ's scars, the death of his mother, and his father abandoning them.
Black Jack, God of Uncertified Experts (Kuro'o Hazama, Dr. BJ, The Surgeon with the Hands of God)

- Lesser God
- Symbol: A scalpel
- Theme Music: Just Before the Sunrise
; Gekkouka
- Alignment: Neutral Good/Chaotic Good
- Portfolio: Super Doc, Good Is Not Nice, Badass Longcoat, Dark Is Not Evil, It Never Gets Any Easier, Scars Are Forever, Doing Anything He Possibly Can To Save People, Badass Bookworm, Knight in Sour Armor, Omnidisciplinary Scientist, Determined Doctor
- Domains: Doctors, Mentality
- Herald: Pinoko Hazama (his surrogate daughter)
- Superior: Osamu Tezuka
- Allies: Dr. House, Red Beard, Florence Nightingale, Emu Hojo, Hiiro Kagami, Taiga Hanaya, Yusuke Otoha, Derek Stiles & Angie Thompson
- Enemies: SCP-542, Thrax
- Black Jack is among the best doctors out there, but there are plenty of unusual things about him. In addition to his distinct white and black hair alongside some facial scars that are the result of a fatal explosion that killed his mother (and he won’t remove said scars), he doesn’t have a medical license and will charge a lot of money for his services. He also has a surrogate daughter/assistant named Pinoko, who was previously a parasitic tumor before Black Jack built an artificial body to house her organs. Despite his hardened personality and troubled life due to witnessing humanity’s worst traits through war and other violent events, he remains dedicated to saving people’s lives, is willing to help someone learn a lesson to better themselves, and has the resources needed to perform a medical operation on his patients (and sometimes himself) no matter how outlandish the condition may be.
- While at his home one day, Black Jack would get a phone call from an unknown patient asking for his help since many of the other doctors that looked at his condition had trouble trying to get him better. The doctor and Pinoko would end up traveling several miles to meet the person that called him and when they arrived, they found themselves in a city that was different from what they were used to. They ended up meeting one of the doctors that tried to help the patient in question and were led to the hospital that the patient was at. They learned about many unusual conditions that were treated there, including species that they had never met previously before they met the patient who needed the operation. Once the exorbitant fee was paid to Black Jack, he performed the operation with the help of other skilled surgeons to successfully cure the ill patient. Pinoko found herself intrigued by the new things she witnessed and when she asked Black Jack about it, he responded by saying that he had a feeling that they’ll be back in this strange place again and that arrangements were made to ensure that the two would have an easier time revisiting it when the time comes.
- As much as Pinoko likes to claim that Black Jack is the best doctor around, there are plenty of other medical practitioners who are just as skilled as he is in their own way. Some such as Derek Stiles had some unusual power that could help them during tight surgeries. Others like Dr. House had a similarly blunt personality like Black Jack does. There were even a few like Yusuke Otoha and people from Seito University Hospital who were able to fight against dangerous enemies whenever they weren’t busy with medical operations (and sometimes during them). What many of those doctors did have in common was their determination in saving the lives of their patients regardless of what personal problems these medical practitioners had to face. While Black Jack has his own way of handling operations, he’s willing to work with a multitude of other doctors and has learned a lot about and from them. Even if most of these other doctors don’t agree on some parts of his character, they otherwise consider Black Jack to be very effective at his line of work.
- (corrupt doctors)
- For every medical condition that’s grounded in reality, Black Jack has encountered a decent amount of fantastical medical anomalies that he’s been able to figure out. The number of strange conditions that were nowhere to be found in regular medical journals that he would discover only increased and some have challenged his skills greatly. Thrax was a living virus who wanted to make a name for himself and while BJ is primarily a surgeon, he’s skilled enough in the medical field as a whole that Thrax finds him to be a significant obstacle in his goal of killing people from within as much as possible, especially since Black Jack can operate on himself if necessary. While Thrax was someone who can be fought against, the same can’t be said for The Red Death, a seemingly intangible entity that brings death to everyone near it and no matter how much Black Jack tried to find answers towards the many questions surrounding it, The Red Death was a harsh reminder that BJ can’t save all of his critically ill patients no matter how hard he tries.
- (surrogate daughter Pinoko)
- (charging a lot for operations)
- (wanting medical patients to live/not taking medical failure well)
- (saving lives despite cynicism about humanity)
- (Jerkass Façade as a means to teach a patient something valuable)
- (keeping facial/physical scars)
- (medical conspiracies)
Cioccolata is a doctor who uses his position to drive his patients to despair and suicide, all whilst recording their misery so he can get off of them. Robert E.O. Speedwagon dedicated his funds to developing the Speedwagon Foundation, with healthcare and medicine being one of its main investments, so it's likely Speedwagon would be interested and would befriend Black Jack.
Finally done enough progress with Barry and the Greybeards/Paarthurnax. Approvals are open for both; anything else that can be added, or are they good to go?
Additional note: Anakin's link being red is deliberate as there's talks and approval of a new Hall in which he would go into.
Feedback/Election Mode
"Starting... now."
- Barry Berkman, God of Crippling Submissiveness for Others' Sake (Barry Block, Clark)

- Demigod
- Symbol: A Glock Pistol next to a Prop Headset
- Theme Song: Main Theme
, Change for the World
by Charles Bradley, The Unforgiven
by Metallica
- Alignment: Neutral Evil, but tries to be True Neutral
- Portfolio: Hired Hitman, A Desperate Need to Follow Someone and Seek Vindication, Desperately Craves Affection, Experiences PTSD from his Time in Afghanistan as a United States Marine, Doesn't like his Hitman Job, Tries to Find a Purpose Through Acting, One-Man Army, Psychopathic Manchild, Hidden Badass, Is Genuinely Polite, Shrinking Violet, Can Become Exceedingly Violent and Brutal, Not Really a Good Actor, Mainly Showing Superficial Affection for Others, Constantly Tries to Dodge Responsibility for his Actions, Incredibly Self-Aggrandizing, The Corruptible, Often Undergoes Hallucinations about his Past and the People he's Killed, Often has to Deal with the Eccentricies of Fellow Criminals, Villain Protagonist Title, Troubled Abuser, Killed by Gene Just as he was About to Accept Responsibility for his Crimes
- Domains: Murder, Depression, Theatre, Media, Selfishness, Anger, Assassination, Crime
- On Speaking Terms With: Private Polonsky, Sergeant Roebuck, Ira Hayes
- Enemies: Dimitri Rascalov, Frank Tenpenny, Eddie Pulaski, The Son, Wilson Fisk/Kingpin, DiMeo Crime Family, Oswald Cobblepot/Penguin, "Lester"/Bullseye, Dexter Morgan
- Pities: Bojack Horseman
- Interested In: John Rambo, Agent 47, Charlie Chaplin
- Uncomfortable Around: James Cameron
- Additional Relationships: Yoruka Kirihime, Vito and Michael Corleone, Steven Spielberg, Sylvester Stallone, Arnold Schwarzenegger, Tom Hardy, Christian Bale, Samuel L. Jackson, Christopher Lee, Sean Bean, Danny, Sawyer
- Barry Berkman was a professional hitman hired by his personal handler, Monroe Fuches, to hunt down and kill "bad people". Despite his natural skill at firearms and killing people, Barry grew dissatisfied and depressed by his occupation, not helped by his PTSD reflections based on his experience as a United States Marine in the War on Afghanistan. A stroke of luck came to him one day when visiting Los Angeles, where Barry would become interested in acting and take up tutelage under Gene Cousineau, an esteemed but self-centered actor and teacher who was willing to give Barry a chance. Unfortunately, Barry’s criminal life would not go away easily as he and Fuches would quickly become involved with multiple European gangs, especially the Chechen faction led by Goran Pazar and later NoHo Hank. Further complicating matters is Barry starting a relationship with fellow actress Sally Reed, the LAPD gaining evidence to incriminate Barry for his crime activities in Los Angeles and his eventual fallout with Fuches, who repeatedly either gaslights Barry into working for him or betrays him on countless occasions.
- Barry’s life would reach an all-time-low when he would jeopardize his and Sally’s relationship as well as destroy Cousineau’s trust in him, especially as Barry came to rely on Gene as a potential father figure, and he would find difficulty in accepting responsibility as well as becoming more aggressive and volatile in his scuffle against the law, the European Mafias, and anyone who came to learn of his dark secrets, culminating in his arrest for the murder of a police officer and his affiliation with the Chechen gang. Thanks to NoHo however, Barry would escape prison and convince a broken and jaded Sally to run away with him to the American Midwest, hiding there with a mundane, unhappy life for years while having a son together, John. But after hearing Gene talking about potentially making a movie about his former student, Barry decides to go back to Los Angeles to kill him, which would kickstart a chain of events that would lead to NoHo Hank’s death, his family’s safety is assured, and Barry realizing how he should allow himself to be arrested. Before he can turn himself in, Barry is shot and killed by Cousineau out of revenge, but due to a swath of incriminating evidence against him penned earlier days ago, Cousineau is sentenced for manipulating Barry to do his "dirty work" in addition to murdering him while Barry is posthumously vindicated as a Tragic Hero in the public zeitgeist.
- Despite all the shortcomings Barry went through and his death, it seemed as if another chance had been given to him in another life. As it turned out, Barry would end up in the Pantheon with his first thoughts being one of shock and unease as he learned more about the divine realms, but what really took him off-guard was how he was posthumously seen as a misunderstood, tragic figure who was the victim of a criminal conspiracy, something he found incredibly conspicuous as he came to learn about ‘’The Mask Collector’’, the film based on Barry’s life during his time as a student actor and his involvement with the European Mafias. Initially, he considered turning himself in to the police, but the sudden realization that he was vindicated suddenly gave him an idea of sorts; he was free to do whatever he liked and he didn't have to go back to being an assassin now that the public has a lionized depiction of him. Of course, Barry has a strange case of guilt about his predicament and past actions, but he does feel that the Pantheon might present him with the golden opportunity he never had back in his mortal life.
- Barry Berkman is a complicated figure. He's a meek, mild-mannered, and amiable man, and all of this is genuine, which unfortunately feeds into his desire for approval and vindication from others, but he also aims to change that by pursuing a career where he can be in full control of himself, even if that came with middling results. Despite it all, Barry is a self-centered man who desperately tries to convince himself to be doing something good, or that he's better than most, but this, combined with his PTSD experiences from Afghanistan and being hired to kill people has left him a depressed wreck. He's also quite paranoid, willing to kill anybody who could potentially expose his criminal past and he would quickly try to justify that as "having had no choice", clearly wanting to dodge responsibility. He's really good as a hitman, able to near-flawlessly shoot down multiple targets, be it in a short amount of time, or from a long distance, but none of this brings him any satisfaction and his experience with Fuches, Hank, and the European Mafia cells in Los Angeles have jaded him from the criminal lifestyle. If there was any excitement he had, it was through acting as he steadily managed to prove himself a good learner, even if he had to let out his trauma and frustrations to bring out a genuine performance and his general acting is subpar at best. All of this, and in the Pantheon, Barry is trying to figure out whether he could return to acting or at least do a role that's about something other than killing people. He's also unsure whether to turn himself in now that almost everyone sees him as a tragic, broken man manipulated by Cousineau when the truth is a lot murkier than that.
- Barry doesn't like to reflect on his past time as a Marine in Afghanistan and either suffers panic attacks or quickly grows upset and infuriated. It's for these reasons that being reminded of the House of Military and Warfare greatly freaks him out and makes an effort to distance himself as much as he can. He is very much aware that there are other soldiers with similar experiences, such as Private Polonsky, Sergeant Roebuck, Corporal Ira Hayes, and Corpsman "Doc" Bradley. Barry is more surprised to learn that he gets to be in the Pantheon around the same time as World War II and Vietnam War soldiers and all of them at their physical peak. The soldiers all had a measure of respect and pity towards Barry as a fellow soldier who felt exploited and manipulated by external forces, which he didn't have much to comment on. He did feel compelled to tell them the truth, even if it meant those soldiers hating his guts, but Barry instead clung on to their support for him, much in the same he did for Fuches and Cousineau. He would sometimes attend events involving them and made some attempts to sympathize with Ira's fall to alcoholism, though the results were something he found rather embarrassing. He's also quite surprised to hear of John Rambo being in the Pantheon as Barry is all too familiar with the franchise about him, but they've hardly ever met due to Rambo's being caught up in his own mess.
- It's no surprise that Barry has depression and anxiety due to past events, but despite it all, he likes visiting the House of Despondency because it's a nice, quiet place to express his thoughts onto and like any of his mentors and friends, he desires some degree of validation and support for them, a byproduct of his self-centeredness and need for vindicating himself and his actions. That said, while the absence of Fuches does leave him with an open opportunity to do what he wants, he's quite reluctant to enter therapy as he's rattled about the possibility of revealing too much about himself and simply prefers to spend time in the House in the solitary section, free to reflect on his life and what he intends to do. It's not a rare sight for visitors to see Barry angrily mumbling and swearing at himself about what he's gone through, and he's had mixed results of whether people wanted to pacify him or they found him too whiny and volatile to get close to.
- He is naturally really good at killing people; Barry is a master marksman and a skilled combat pragmatist, but he honestly doesn't like murder as it contributes to his depression. To his dismay, he's one of many killers who have ascended in the Pantheon and he was once compelled to visit the House of Slaughter through basic curiosity. When recounting his experience as a hitman there, Barry found himself attracting a strange sense of popularity among the many assassins and hitmen populating and visiting the Hall of Killers and Assassins. The one assassin that took particular interest in Barry was Yoruka Kirihime, though mainly because his complicated relationship with Fuches that ended in betrayal on both sides reminded Yoruka of her service with the Arcadia Empire until they went against her back for killing her brother. The two can relate to a loss of trust and feelings betrayed and exploited, though Yoruka thinks Barry is a bit of a bore due to his very simple tastes and habits while Barry is unsure of why Yoruka would want to continue as an assassin despite her brother’s death. His career of mainly targeting “bad” people also brings to mind Dexter Morgan, a serial killer who hunts people of the worst kind, though the two don’t get along as Dexter realized that Barry has a hidden “darkness” underneath his polite and meek demeanour while Barry doesn't want to get involved with a forensic officer with police ties. Oddly enough, Yoruka and Dexter find his film adaptation to be quite funny, if mainly for how different Barry is in the movie compared to the real deal.
- As a former professional killer, Barry got to learn about Agent 47 even before his ascension as the Hitman series was amongst those games he used to play in his spare time before moving to Los Angeles. Barry was admittedly just as afraid as much as he was excited to hear he was now living in the same world as the legendary assassin. Unbeknownst to him, Agent 47 is one of the scant few figures who knew the truth about Barry's past and criminal career, but due to the anonymity and profession of his job, he has no interest in exposing the hitman/actor. The only time the two will ever interact is if Agent 47 is tasked to kill Barry. Even without having met him, Barry keeps a gun with him just in case someone tries to kill him, so he dreads the idea of someone hunting him down in the Pantheon and aims to prepare for the occasion. Jacket was a hitman he had several similarities with; having dealt with an Eastern European crime sector, was a capable marksman, was betrayed by his client and was manipulated by others to do their dirty work. Though where Barry’s story was one of wanting self-validation, Jacket wanted revenge for being betrayed, and he has somewhat of a soft spot for Barry given his pastime as a former marine with PTSD and being a generally nice if easily rattled man. Barry tolerates Jacket’s influence as he doesn’t want to kill people, which the latter respects, even if he knows that Barry has a violent side that he would enjoy witnessing if ever let out.
- Barry has dealt with multiple criminals, but his most frequent encounters are with Eastern European Crime Associates, especially NoHo Hank and Barry himself isn't happy that there are several in the Pantheon who are under the illusion that he's a threat to their operations after his posthumous lionization as a tragic hero. The Son was initially dismissive of Barry given his desire to pursue something that doesn't involve killing people, though his past as a marine did rattle The Son enough to consider using great manpower against Barry if they ever meet. On the other hand, Dimitri Rascalov wants Barry dead as quickly as he can because his marine background reminds him too much of his own nemesis, though Barry was able to swiftly kill whatever assassins Dimitri sent out and he himself is too craven to do the deed himself.
- Barry quickly became aware that the criminals he was dealing with were far different from the eccentric and laidback ones he dealt with in his mortal life, something that was vindicated when he had to deal with other gangs outside of Eastern European ones. With The Godfather films being real in the Pantheon, Barry was pleasantly surprised about encountering Vito and Michael Corleone, though he was more in contact with Vito Scaletta and Joe Barbaro, who strangely got along with Barry for their shared experience in dealing with mafia and crime gangs constantly and the two respecting Barry's desire for a non-violent life. He also got on good terms with Jimmy who feels that Barry deserves to have some semblance of a life of his choice, though given his occupation, Jimmy and Barry don't cross paths often. Still, eccentric criminals like Hank do exist in the Pantheon and Barry would rather avoid them as much as he could as he finds dealing with them annoying and exhausting.
- With Los Angeles being a verified domain in the Pantheon, Barry was amused by how mundane the place felt as a supposed holy site in the divine realms. Furthermore, performers, directors, and creators like Steven Spielberg, George Lucas, and Charlie Chaplin were ascended figures themselves, though most of them didn't have too much to say about Barry other than critique him for his frankly mediocre acting. Barry was more interested in how Chaplin, a figure of the early 20th Century now exists in the Pantheon and tried to get into contact with him in an effort to have him as a teacher and mentor. While Charlie sympathises with his past, he's not impressed with his acting skills and expresses that he doesn't see himself as a mentor, which left Barry disappointed. One director that caught Barry's attention was James Cameron, but with his past attitude reminding him of Cousineau, Barry is quite hesitant to approach Cameron without having flashbacks to his past, plus he doesn't want another adaptation of his life, even if Cameron isn't interested in that. That said, he finds the story of ‘’Tropic Thunder’’ quite fascinating, even if those guys are quick to ridicule Barry for his simple mind and choppy attempt at acting, plus they felt that The Mask Collector was too dramatized and unrealistic, even if they don't know the full context of Barry’s tale.
- Barry has participated in stage acting and film acting, with barely much success on both fronts, even if he enjoyed his time being mentored by Cousineau. Several actors like Tom Hardy and Sylvester Stallone have paid notice towards him. However, given their much higher standing, their interactions with Barry are minimal, even if he likes their works and performances. There was further amusement when he realized there were anthropomorphic cats like Danny and Sawyer who were also performers. Both of them pitied Barry for they thought he was caught and trapped in a hopeless predicament with Cousineau, though Barry simply responded to their sympathy with a blunt and thoughtless "thanks, your performances are good, I guess". To him, he's more astounded by the fact that he's living in what looks like a cartoon world with talking animals, but he doesn't mind Danny and Sawyer either way. Bojack Horseman was an interesting experience as both he and Barry were victims of depression, though the former was a formerly famed actor who fell in hard times after being Condemned by History and his show dropping in critic and viewer ratings while the latter got tired of killing people and being manipulated by Fuches, though his days as a hitman were something he tries to hide from the public. Bojack is quite perplexed with Barry, seeing in him similarities that he doesn't want to be reminded by, though with Barry's apparent blandness and Barry himself finding Horsin' Around rather bad, the two don't talk much, even if Barry somewhat pities Bojack’s past.
- Barry's ultimate goal is to seek validation and approval from someone, especially a father figure. This may be sympathetic to some degree, especially given how abusive Fuches was in dealing with him, it also underscores Barry's narcissism and self-absorbed impulses, especially when his relationship with Sally and Cousineau is taken into account. Indeed, while Barry has a number of deities in the Pantheon he could positively interact and get along with to some extent, he’s also prone to wanting to maintain contact with them because he wants vindication that he's not a bad person and frets about being one due to his days as a hitman and a marine. Worse, if he faces anything that threatens his well-being, he's more than willing to sell out or kill anyone who would pose a threat without hesitation, yet would constantly sulk around in disbelief over his actions. It's because of this that Barry tenses up anytime he's reminded of the House of Betrayal and Treachery and while he doesn't like to talk about it, he does internally agree that said place hits too close to home about himself. As a result, he makes a lot of effort to suppress his cowardice and he seemingly seems to be on amicable terms with most he comes into contact with, though Barry frets about the possibility of them being annoyed with his meek and bland demeanour as that could mean they would believe there's more to Barry than just that.
Paarthurnax and the Greybeards, Deified Collective of Weaponized Words (Paarthurnax: Old One)


- Intermediate Deities
- Symbol: The High Hrothgar Banner
- Theme Song: Seven Thousand Steps
- Alignment: Neutral Good (Paarthurnax was formerly Neutral Evil)
- Portfolio: Can Weaponize their Voice through the Thu'um, Super-Scream, Mastery in their Magical Craft, Composed of Veteran and Elderly Practicioners, Cool Old Guys, Badass Longrobe, Refuse to Take Part in Conflict, Prefer to have Arngeir Speak on their Behalf, Will Defend Themselves if Need Be
- Arngeir: Mentoring the Dragonborn, Voice for the Voiceless, The Strongest of the Greybeards
- Paarthurnax: A Teacher to the Greybeards and the Dragonborn, Aldiun's Former Lieutenant and Younger Brother, Went Against his Master out of Remorse for Causing Misery, Heel–Face Turn, Big Good, One of the Scant Good in an Otherwise Vicious Race, A Benevolent Dragon, Controls himself to Save Off his Inherent Desire for Destruction, Reasonable Authority Figure, Is Not Forgiven for his Past Crimes, Warrior Monk, Likes to Use Draconic Words even when Speaking English
- Domains: Words, Phrases, Dragons, Solitude, Prophecy, Power, Control
- Allies: The Dovahkiin, Cosmos, Warrior of Light, Io, Bahamut, Hiccup, Toothless, Spyro, Falkor, Alm, Celica, Marth, Byleth Eisner, Monster Hunters, The Dungeon Master's Adventurers, Aragorn, King Arthur Pendragon, Princess Zelda, Link, Sigmar Heldenhammer, Tyrion, Teclis, Princess Peach, Princess Sofia, Luke Skywalker, Anakin Skywalker, Obi-Wan Kenobi, Yoda, Doctor Strange, Zatanna, Guts, Kratos
- Enemies: Alduin, Hermaeus Mora, Molag Bal, Malekith, Archaon, Nagash, Sauron, Melkor, Darkseid, Smaug, Grima, Sindragosa, King Ghidorah, Deathwing, Fatalis, Caim, Angelus, Daenerys Targeryen, Gwyn, Ornstein, Smough, Joffrey Baratheon, Cersei Lannister, Ramsay Bolton, Griffith, Ganondorf, Lolth, Arthas Menethil, Sindragosa, Emperor Palpatine
- Complex Thoughts On: Rathalos, Rathian, Nergigante, Tigrex
- On Speaking Terms With: Mila and Duma, Odio
- Complicated Relationship: The Dragon Hunters
- The Greybeards are an ancient, religious organization in Skyrim who make their home in Mount Hrothgar, located at the Throat of the World. Currently led by the elder Arngeir, the group consists of several elderly and venerable individuals who took to learning the Dragon’s tongue and language, the Thu’um, they follow a pacifistic creed that their legendary powers be used mainly for respecting the deities of Tamriel and to mediate and control their powers as much as they could, hence their decision to be based high up in the mountains. They await for the day the Last Dragonborn comes into being whereupon they will take it upon themselves to mentor and train the warrior in refining and mastering the Thu’um in the hopes that he would be prepared to duel against the renegade dragon god, Alduin. Throughout his progress, the Dovahkiin would be told that Arngeir is merely the figurehead for the Greybeards; the true leader and grandmaster of the religious order was actually a dragon named Paarthurnax and unlike most of his kin, he was an affable being who instead desires to help the Dragonborn.
- Paarthurnax was one of the oldest draconic beings created by Akatosh. The direct brother of Alduin, he served as his sibling’s direct lieutenant in trying to devastate and subjugate humanity into submission and slavery under their rule. However, Paarthurnax began to feel that Alduin was taking too far in his desire for conquest and expressed remorse and shame over enabling his brother to terrorize the world. As his way of atonement, he decided to discreetly teach mankind the Thu’um so that they could combat their oppressors in equal measure, eventually succeeding in vanishing Alduin. Despite this, Paarthurnax’s guilt lingered and he decided to retreat to the Throat of the World to live in exile, though not without adopting the Way of the Voice and establishing a friendship with the Greybeards’ founder, Jurgen Windcaller. He would wait for thousands of years until the Last Dragonborn would turn up, with Paarthurnax offering him as much wisdom and training as he could in the hopes that the Dovahkiin could finally defeat Alduin. Ultimately successful, Paarthurnax would keep on tabs with the Last Dragonborn and look forward to a better future for Skyrim, even if he feels unsure about himself and Alduin’s fate.
- With the Dragonborn’s ascension into the Pantheon, Paarthurnax and the Greybeards were invited into the divine realms as his personal heralds, which helped greatly as Paarthurnax acted as a mediator to convince many, especially other dragons, that the Dovahkiin wasn't a mindless dragon hunter who sought extinction towards their kind, even if the warrior himself has a code to only hunt down malicious and hostile dragons if necessary. So it came as a shock to the organization when they were told of their ascension by Cosmos, whom the Dragonborn had a friendly relationship with and the goddess was interested and impressed by Paarthurnax’s wisdom as well as his feat of aiding someone to reach their potential as well as overcoming his vices. The dragon remained humble as he believed that his recognition in the Pantheon should less be about him and the Greybeards being celebrated and about how they may be needed for a new world. He and Arngeir believed that Alduin isn't the primary reason for their ascension, despite their awareness of the World Eater’s presence in the Pantheon, but they do feel that they may be required as mediators for dragons as well as beings like them. The Greybeards have made it clear about their decision to remain isolated, believing that their powers are too dangerous to be left exposed for others to witness, but they do accept anyone into their domain so long as their intentions are clear and just, plus Paarthurnax wants to make sure their domain is protected and respected. And though he may be a force for good at the moment, the dragon does feel a sense of unease about whether most of the Pantheon are willing to accept his redemption given his past crimes against humanity for his role as Alduin's lieutenant.
- As practitioners of the Thu’um, the Greybeards are capable of exhibiting great power simply by speaking the draconic language. They can breathe fire, distort space, blast through the fabric of hair, call down lightning and meteors, and much more, but given the devastating might of these shouts, the Greybeards secluded themselves to make sure they don't harm anyone with their voice, even if they maintain great control and restraint over them. Those aside, the organization is humble and polite towards others and as practitioners of the Way of the Voice, they are pacifists who prefer not to fight or have their teachings used for combat and warfare, though they are capable of fighting back if necessary. Despite their exclusivity and their reclusiveness, those who learn about the Greybeards in the Pantheon hold a good opinion towards them as they’re all affable men who simply want the divine realms to be prosperous. As for Paarthurnax, he initially felt more reclusive than the Greybeards, but since the organization’s ascension, he’s since had to make his presence known a bit more, an arduous task as he still felt that dragons are terrifying creatures feared by all, himself included. Yet, he was surprised by how he’s had a growing approval in the Pantheon for a few reasons. Still, Paarthurnax would prefer having intellectual talks with anyone who intrigues him over fighting, even if he’s proven to be a formidable fighter.
- It didn't take long for the Greybeards to see themselves learning about the Pantheon, even if their pace was rather slow due to their isolated nature, though their contact with the Dovahkiin has ensured they are up to speed with critical events and circumstances. While their tabs on Alduin is their biggest priority, the Greybeards are also keen to understand other worlds and their inhabitants, but because of how they operate, they're the ones who need guests, for they must come directly to High Hrothgar, a task that seems quite hard given its placement on a high mountain. Fortunately, they have had guests attending them, with all of them being heroes and benevolent warriors who came to learn about the organization either through the Dragonborn or word of mouth. Cosmos and her personal emissary, the Warrior of Light, are a frequent guest, with the goddess’s wisdom and the latter’s chivalry offering several topics for Arngeir and Paarthurnax to converse on. The reformed dragon sometimes talks to Cosmos in private, for he is aware of her nature as a manakin and commends Cosmos for proving herself resilient to fight against her nature. While it's not something she likes to think about, Cosmos appreciates Paarthurnax’s sentiments and his level of wisdom. The Warrior of Light also draws comparison to the Dovahkiin in being a noble and powerful warrior, though his staunch loyalty towards Cosmos, while admittedly respectable, does lead the organization to wonder whether the warrior would be willing to defy Cosmos should it be the right thing to do, a question that he finds quite hard to find a response to.
- In contrast to the Dragons of Tamriel who were primarily destruction-driven beasts and inherently divine via their ancestry from Akatosh, dragons in the Pantheon were incredibly diverse; some were simply animals, albeit territorial ones, while others were benevolent forces or just as malicious as Alduin. They also came in different sizes, shapes and adaptations, if wyverns, drakes, and wyrms were of any indication. In contrast to the Dragonborn who had to earn his goodwill towards whatever good-hearted dragons he encountered, Paarthurnax was accepted much more quickly, with Cosmos’s relationship with him being a big benefit in that. Falkor and Spyro were prime examples of how a dragon can choose to be good, which vindicated Paarthurnax’s belief of how one could overcome their vices while the antics and unique friendship of Hiccup Horrendous and his Night Fury steed, Toothless, showed how a human-dragon is possible and the Greybeards were surprised by how different dragons were in the divine realms. To consolidate their newfound alliances, these kind-hearted dragons are allowed visitations to High Hrothgar with Arngeir and Paarthurnax being open to talking to them about the Dragons of Skyrim and opening up the possibility of expanding on a coalition between humans and draconic kind.
- Dragons are often a symbol of power and, in several other worlds, were generally seen as deities, a fact that the Greybeards are familiar with given Alduin and Akatosh’s reputation and nature as such. As a result, they quickly understood the situation between Io, Bahamut, and Tiamat and while the Greybeards maintained contact with the former two, with Bahamut being eager to cooperate in a potential dragon-human coalition, Tiamat proved a troublesome foe, not helped by how she believed Paarthurnax was weak for choosing humans over his own kin, though the redeemed dragon likens the dragon chimaera's ambition for destruction a bit too similar to Alduin’s. Mila and Duma, the dragon deities of Valentia, were immediate figures of interest, especially as Paarthurnax found Mila quite peculiar given her representation of compassion and nurture while he understood Duma’s drive for battle and conquest. The fact that morality was a blurred line made for quite the philosophical talk with the two as the reformed dragon recounted his past experiences and mused whether their teachings would be refined upon by their governing successors, Alm and Celica. Mila and Duma would admit that their conversation with a fellow dragon-like Paarthurnax allowed them to express themselves about several matters they would otherwise keep hidden from their worshippers and his affable demeanour meant that the divine siblings enjoyed his company, even if Duma wished he could fight against Paarthurnax and the Dovahkiin if mainly to prove their warrior might, which Paarthurnax addressed that there will come a time, though it would be better spent proving this towards their enemies.
- Of course, the organization has kept track of the more malicious and predatory dragons. While a constant is their power and their intelligence, Paarthurnax does respect the resilience of the animalistic ones like Rathalos, Rathian, and Nergigante while acknowledging them as dire threats due to their territorial nature and dietary habits. The Greybeards also acknowledge them as forces of nature rather than evil beings but don't feel the need to combat them as they tend to be taken care of by warriors and hunters either way. With someone like Smaug, Sindragosa, and Grima, they take umbrage as, in addition to being malicious, dragons like him are quite eager to terrorize civilization and cause destruction, and the Greybeards are willing to fight them outside of High Hrothgar if the situation presents itself as incredibly severe. They do have some intrigue towards mass destroyers like King Ghidorah, Fatalis, and Deathwing, if mainly because their motives align strongly with Alduin’s original purpose. On a further note, they, as well as Paarthurnax, have a degree of pity towards Fatalis if its reasons for hating humans via hunting Elder Dragons in the past are to be considered, but they’re also aware that the Legend of Schrade has to be stopped. With Ghidorah and Deathwing, they’re much less sympathetic as the former is an invasive monster who desires to kill while the Black Scourge has a level of ambition and arrogance and equals the World Eater's and the Greybeards are adamant that Deathwing needs to be stopped as his destruction for the world and the Pantheon stems from a narcissistic entitlement for bloodshed.
- The Pantheon had a population of people who befriended dragons and used them as mounts as well as those who hunted them down for reasons varying from earning a bounty to simply trying to stop a threat from blooming out of control. When it came to tamers and riders, Caim and Angelus were controversial for the two shared a bitter hatred and had no intention of having a relationship with the Greybeards as they believed their pacifistic ways did nothing to help Skyrim or the Pantheon, though Paarthurnax pitied their circumstances and wonders how Caim intends to pursue his life in the divine realms now that he was in a more idealistic world as well as managing his violent insanity. The Targeryans, a noble family famed for their use of dragons as mounts were not as well-received either as the Greybeards felt they preferred to use them as tools for domination and destruction and considering how Daenerys chose to raze King's Landing out of revenge and self-vindication, they raised a good point, even if Paarthurnax sympathizes with her plights and one day seeks a conversation with her as he is aware that Daenerys was once an honorable woman who sought good intentions.
- Among the slayers, there was a particular set of dragon slayers who came from a world where dragons were entirely malignant, malevolent creatures, hence they're overwhelmed by their newfound habit of having to deal with benign and benevolent. They were rattled by Paarthurnax having served Alduin before, though the redeemed dragon did question if they wanted to kill him and if they expected something out of it. Those dragon hunters did acknowledge that while they were unsure of what to think or do, they did know that killing Paarthurnax would not grant them any favours, plus he did seem secluded and make an earnest effort to hold back his power and destructive nature. The dragon himself admitted that those dragon hunters are quite similar to the Blades, though as they felt and acted a lot more kinder and personable than either Delphine or Esbern, he and the Greybeards thought that they may be more reasonable and accepting than the Blades. The Monster Hunters have encountered the Greybeards thanks to their working relationship with the Dovahkiin and, as such, came to respect them and Paarthurnax for their wisdom and desire to be accepted for their cause. While the Greybeards can't teach the hunters the Thu'um, they did allow them to study it if it meant them devising ways to deal with hostile dragons, but they also affirmed that the hunters do not use them for self-gain. Paarthurnax also finds the hunters' odd quirks quite amusing and likes to reference them during his conversations with them, though he's just as eager to tell them about his circumstances and what they could learn from him.
- The Greybeards are very keen towards heroes from medieval lands and, should they prove their worth, they can be granted entry to High Hrothgar as honored guests. One of their first visitors came from a sextet of kids and their companion Unicorn, Uni, who ended up stumbling across their settlement, but the Greybeards were kind enough to allow them shelter and food. Their reaction was a colourful one, with Eric being a bit loud about how High Hrothgar was boring while Bobby and Presto were enthusiastic about the Greybeards for their power and history respectively. They initially withheld telling the group about Paarthurnax out of fear of scaring the kids, though a sudden attack from Alduin caused the redeemed dragon to turn up and repel the World Eater with the Dovahkiin’s help. Although the kids were startled and freaked out by how a dragon was the secret leader of the Greybeards, Arngeir affirmed that the Old One meant no harm. After that, the kids got to befriend Paarthurnax rather quickly, with the dragon showing a degree of snark to humor them as well as offering some words of insight. He openly respected Hank and Diana for their warrior spirits, Sheila and Presto for their kind heart and inquisitiveness, and Eric and Bobby for their resilience and capacity for growth, and argued that Uni will one day grow up to become a loyal, capable mount and companion. Since then, the child adventurers have remained good friends with the Greybeards and they’re one of the first groups the kids will seek companionship with in case their spirits are down.
- With other heroes of fantasy and medieval lands, the Greybeards have a measure of respect for heirs like Marth, Aragorn, and King Arthur, seeing them as the very leaders Skyrim deserved to have. Other heirs like Peach and Sofia Balthazar were noted and praised for their kind hearts and all five of them quickly got along with both Arngeir and Paarthurnax for their good intentions and the latter simply having a good time conversing with them about several topics to keep his guests educated and entertained. The Pevensie Siblings were similarly interested in the Greybeards, with Arngeir having talks with Peter about establishing a connection between Skyrim and Narnia at some point while Paarthurnax greatly respected the siblings’ valour and was admittedly very favourable of Lucy for her innocence and optimism, with the dragon eager to encourage the girl to keep strong and resilient should she want to use her kindness for a greater cause. Tyrion and Teclis, Ulthuan’s High Elven monarchy were also invited for a formal alliance due to their reputation as defenders and peacekeepers as well as their race’s reputation of having dragons as mounts, with Teclis in particular intrigued by the Thu’um and wishing to study more about it in his spare time. Finally, Sigmar the God-Emperor and Karl Franz made their efforts to establish a working relationship with the Greybeards and while both acknowledge Paarthurnax's past crimes, they are willing to allow the dragon a chance for redemption, plus Sigmar was adamant that with greater threats arriving in the Pantheon, now is a better time for new alliances whether possible. He and Karl also took the Dragon's words to account regarding his critique of their Empire and they’re keen on making sure to improve upon it.
- The organization are also observant towards those dictated by destiny to bring great change and desires to not just establish relations, but also foster a friendship with them as it would mean a stronger alliance as well as understanding towards them. This was a reason for their friendship with Link and Princess Zelda, in addition to them already being allies with the Dragonborn, with Zelda telling them that they shouldn't be afraid of visiting Hyrule, though Paarthurnax is hesitant as he suspects that Hylians might be wary about dragons, much less one with a terrible past like him. Alm and Celica were also on a similar boat as they had a familial experience with dragons and appreciated the Greybeards’ humbleness and Paarthurnax’s wisdom, with Celica telling him that he can prove his redemption and that he, Arngeir, and the others are welcome to visit Valentia as guests. It helps that the Greybeards are on speaking terms with Mila and Duma, with Paarthurnax having a decent level of understanding for both of them. Finally, the Greybeards have developed an interest in members of the Jedi Order, especially Luke Skywalker for being its restorer and a figure to balance out the Force. While Luke was quite humble and affirming that the prophetic figure was specifically his father, the Greybeards and Paarthurnax protested that Luke still proved otherwise to be just as capable of the title. The dragon and the Jedi have since engaged in a number of conversations and admit that they enjoy each other’s company, with Luke recommending that Paarthurnax may offer some words to his father in The future, which the Old One has kept in mind.
- The organization caught track of many grave dangers and foes in the Pantheon and while they don't intervene much due to their desire for solitude and personal tranquillity, they do hold some opinions and critical judgment towards them. With someone like Ganondorf and Griffith, Paarthurnax wonders whether they had any choice in the matter of their lives given it was destiny that dictated the two into becoming great evils. The dragon and Arngeir pity them whilst also condemning them for their actions, seeing them as disproportionate and abhorrent in their level of depravity, though Paarthurnax confides that the topic surrounding those two does interest him in a moral and ideological sense. Malekith and Lolth remind them of the Thalmur; elitist and vicious elves obsessed with dominance and their ego, but where Malekith still elicited some sympathy and intrigue in that he tamed dragons for his purposes, Lolth was simply a monster craving destruction and supremacy bar none and there was nothing but contempt from Paarthurnax and the Greybeards, though the Witch-King would duly note that he has no patience for their pity and that they’re lazy for not doing anything to help Skyrim, relying on the Dovahkiin as a sort of crutch for their means. Additionally, many of these medieval evils were quite reminiscent of Alduin in a sense; wanting power and domination at the expense of everyone around, and with several examples like Sauron, the Lannisters and Boltons, and Nagash, it's not hard to see why. While the Greybeards consider them threats that need to be stopped, they also note that worldly destruction is ultimately inevitable yet this wouldn't stop them from taking action if they ever dared to threaten High Hrothgar.
- The concept of an individual desiring or wanting the destruction of everything isn't something the Greybeards wholly oppose, even if they also think one’s life is important and should perform to their fullest in their mortal shells. In addition to Skyrim, they also believe that the Pantheon being destroyed to make way for a newer, potentially better iteration is justified if prophecy says so. If there is any opposition, it's either if said destruction is not on a scheduled mandate, or if there is nothing to gain from it other than fulfilling the perpetrator’s self-centered wishes. The two most interesting destroyers in the eyes of the Greybeards were Archon the Everchosen and Odio, Lord of Dark, who were either predestined or manipulated into abandoning their goodness and embracing the thought that life and hopes were fruitless and that destruction was the only choice that mattered. Paarthurnax cites Archaon and Odio as examples that even the best of people can sometimes succumb to evil and destruction, but given the uncontrollable circumstances they were thrown in that ensured their villainy, the redeemed dragon felt pity for them. At least Odio has redeemed himself and is reflecting on what he could consider doing in the Pantheon, in addition to having a few talks with Paarthurnax that he found quite introspective. Archaon, on the other hand, has no such patience or intent for “philosophical dribble” and sees the dragon and the Greybeards as orderly failures who deserve to die for their complacency. The Everchosen once attacked High Hrothgar, one of the few times where the Greybeards displayed their offensive powers and were it not for the Dragonborn’s interference as well as a call from a mysterious voice, Archaon would have killed the Greybeards and Paarthurnax. The Everchosen cites the Dovahkiin as a worthy opponent, but does assure that he intends to finish off Paarthurnax and his followers at a later point.
- The Greybeards and the Dovahkiin are not the only ones with the ability to generate superpowered screams or conjure spells through speaking. With the former, they learned of a surprising figure in Tigrex, a famed wyvern known for its ability to generate a roar so powerful and loud it physically damages anyone close to its vicinity. And while a Tigrex isn't a malicious creature, it was a dangerous one, though the Greybeards are keen to learn more about similar wyverns and express some martial respect for the Dragonborn being able to challenge and defeat some. With the latter, there were several beings in the House of Magic and Sorcery such as Zatanna and Doctor Strange who were skilled with their use of vocabulary to cast incantations. The organization was quite curious, yet skeptical of Zatanna due to her occupation as a stage performer yet Paarthurnax found it quite appealing to see magic being used as a platform for entertaining others with the magician superhero finding their company quite comforting thanks to the dragon's wise nature and his curiosity for learning about worlds beyond Skyrim. With Stephen Strange, he has a more traditional relationship with the Greybeards and while the doctor would wish they were more active in protecting their world, he respects their desire for solitude. Strange also likes having conversations with Paarthurnax regarding morality and consequences (mainly because of Strange’s past as a selfish doctor before extreme circumstances caused him to be humbled and become a hero as well as Paarthurnax’s history as a lieutenant to Alduin) and there's further enjoyment in how the two would snark at each other.
- Paarthurnax has a fascination with individuals who started off either with blackened hearts or dark and troubling ambitions before overcoming those to be better people. A chance encounter with Kratos, who was once hiking near the Throat of the World resulted in a long conversation between the redeemed dragon and the Ghost of Sparta, with the former respecting the latter for attempting to better himself from the man he once was and Kratos finding Paarthurnax quite humbling, internally admitting him as “good company”. The dragon also had a similar conversation with Guts where the two spoke about topics like the Apostles, fate, causality, and the price of loyalty and determination. While Paarthurnax understood Guts’ hatred for Griffith, he also noted that he likely didn't have a choice and was predestined to become a Godhand given his destiny, though agreed that even then, it was Griffith’s decision to sacrifice his comrades for more power and how he's just as bad as Alduin regarding ambition and desire. Finally, Paarthurnax found a strange kinship in Darth Vader despite the latter’s past reputation as a Sith Lord; the dragon was careful to not prod too much about Anakin’s past, but the latter stated that he wanted to focus more on his path of redemption since his ascension. Paarthurnax was surprised by Vader’s sense of guilt and self-loathing but did tell the Fallen Jedi that he doesn't need to define himself with it and that he doesn't need to be reminded of his past misfortunes. Anakin states that it is hard, but he tries nonetheless and is respectful of the redeemed dragon in trying to help him out in his own way.
- Despite his atonement, there are some who don't agree that Paarthurnax’s redemption is genuine and there are even a few who think he is just as much a threat as his older brother if his betrayal of Alduin tells anything, and they’ll also accuse the Greybeards for being willing accomplices to a supporter of tyranny and destruction, regardless if Paarthurnax regrets them or not. This is a reason why the redeemed dragon keeps himself secluded as there exists a number of figures who don't think Paarthurnax earned his redemption and may still harbour dark and destructive tendencies. This has been a worrying thing for Cosmos and a couple of the dragon’s newfound friends and allies as it is trying to convince someone that a dragon has turned to good, especially one from Skyrim, seems to be harder than one would guess. Gwyn is among those who hold onto that belief, feeling that the Blades are justified in wanting to kill Paarthurnax, plus this is a reason why the King of Anor Londo is conflicted about the Dragonborn, believing that he should be more in line with his beliefs given his most famed occupation. His most trusted lieutenants, Ornstein and Smough, don't care about Paarthurnax being on the side of angels, especially the former. If he's a dragon, he’s worthy prey to hunt, simple as that. Paarthurnax and Arngeir simply comment on Gwyn’s tragic predicament and his issue in coming to terms with dragons not being as oppressive as they seem as well as Ornstein and Smough being too rigid and defined by their loyalty towards their king, though the redeemed dragon and the Greybeards are not hesitant in fighting them if they ever try to impede their domain.
Edited by CrimsonShark on May 20th 2024 at 5:24:56 PM
WHERE IS KRYPTO, I mean, WHERE IS THE DOG!!!
for both
@Rlock
Fran Madaraki is a doctor who prioritizes the patients life above all else, even if they end up in an And I Must Scream position.
Edited by Excessive-Menace on May 20th 2024 at 11:25:52 AM
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no mention of Uriel Septim VII and Martin Septim?
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some additional doctors are Dr. Markus Vaughn, Dr. Valerie Blaylock, Dt. Strange (he’s a doctor first, and Sorcerer Supreme second), Asclepius and Baymax (Auto-Doc).
Edited by AzureLegacy on May 20th 2024 at 11:29:35 AM
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Captain Martin Walker might share the same post-war struggles Barry as after experiencing the quagmire that was Dubai, yet would oppose his criminal lifestyle.
Frank Castle would more likely show no mercy to a fellow Marine and go after Berkman instead.
Here's the sandbox for the Collectible Monsters Hall. I think it already looks good to go, so I'm accepting
s right now (if there are any other deities with Mon tropes I missed, please tell me).
@RJ
I think the Madrigals can fit in the Lineage Hall since Multigenerational Household involves family generations. Also, I agree with Crimson to rename it "Ancestors and Lineage" to make it more clear that it's about family tropes. (Side note, I don't get why you put Lineage in the Pantheon namespace and not the Sandbox namespace given that it's a work in progress, but at least you didn't link it to any other pages yet)
SING TO ME, LEND ME THE SONG OF BLASPHEMY@ Crimson Shark: While I get what you're saying a description in the Hall would feel kind of out of place since none of the other Family and Relatives halls have their own description
@ Excessive Menace:
Collectible Monsters. And tbh, I forgot to make it Sandbox first. Don't worry, I fixed that
Here's my Hall of Ancestors And Lineage. Do you guys think it's ready?
Edited by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 on May 20th 2024 at 10:53:41 PM
Paarthurnax and his crew would be in talks with Arceus and The Creation Trio. It helps that Dialga and Palkia are actively worshipped and control concepts, while Arceus itself can be a dragon as well and is the Creation Trio's direct superior. Rayquaza (in trios and elemental pairings) as well, since it prevents destruction from Kyogre and Groudon.
As for Kamoshida, I'll write in the fight that he got in with Toxie while hanging with Sugou, Shinji, and Ethan Roark Junior. It helps that the latter two already have a vendetta against him (Shinji because Toxie killed him when he tried to assault Sakura, and Ethan Junior because he beat him and then urinated on him. Nuclear piss isn't fun). Though frankly, he would hate everyone involved with the Anti-Social Force (except for Sae) because he managed to dismantle a crime ring being run by the mayor of Tromaville. And before you ask, yes, rape (well, attempted) was involved due to a blind girl named Sara (who he later marries).
Edited by Gehayadren on May 20th 2024 at 8:29:31 AM
Ha ha ha. What a story, Mark.@Paarthurnax: Well, Lex the Bookworm would probably express interest in the language, as would Levy McGarden with her Solid Script magic.
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What's the appropriate length of time to discuss events from recent released comics?
Edited by WhirlRX on May 19th 2024 at 5:58:56 AM