Welcome to the Trope Pantheons thread! Please read the rules:

Rules

Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:

When writing a profile, take note of the following:
- Gods cannot be followers or high priests for obvious reasons. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
- No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
  - You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
- When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
- You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
  - For new and reworked deities, 3 means the profile will have a one week waiting period.
  - For new and reworked deities, 4 is a 3 day waiting period.
  - 5 is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
  - Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
- For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions, the following rules apply:
  - For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 is a 3 day waiting period.
  - 4 is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
- Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice in a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be a single flavour text.
- The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like look like Character Shilling.
- Tropers new to the Pantheon are barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles.
- Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
- Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
- Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
  - On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others because no one is responding to their idea.
When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
- Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to add in a main Characters page that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, inform the forum and use the cutlist. This also goes to the Trivia page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Good and Evil Colors.
- Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment ALSO applies here. Do not bring things that would incite fights, even if it is what is currently the hot topic and might be 'urgent'. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight at each other, so don't suggest things that go to that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
- To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
- Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.

Instructions and Tips

Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:

Preparing to write:
- First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
- If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
- Please be sure to consult others in the discussion about what you want to work before making the profile. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable.
  - In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user.
- If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the aformentioned creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters.
When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
- All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
- The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
- A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
- If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in other House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity, with the sole exceptions being those at the Main House to highlight those characters’ importance to the Pantheon’s lore.
- For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part their series’ official soundtracks from media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters’ appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
- For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlights a character’s behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character, unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute to the original artist. Due to the website’s dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too much bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, put the compressed image to other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikias to look for better images, as even wikias for the series might not contain good official images.
- Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that makes sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
Pantheon Content:
- Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
  - As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entire from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
- Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well advised not to abuse them. The only house that a tropeless profile are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of a food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
- For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
For Profile Standards:
- Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
- Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
  - A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
  - Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
  - On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
- Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
  - A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
  - Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
- Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
  - A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
  - Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.

Divine Ranking System

Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warpers capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warpers and that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low level Reality Warpers capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
Demigods: Basically the Badass Normals of the pantheon, making up for their lack of abilities with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.

Templates

Template for adding a new deity:

God X, God/dess of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on representation of power mentioned above.
Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
Alignment: Good, evil, neutral etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here, the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignment to characters that don't have alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
For Pokémon deities only:
- Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
- Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
- Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
- Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
- Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
- Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either on their pespective or yours.
- Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
- Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
- Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
- Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
- Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly opposes or is opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects") terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
- Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
- Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part the order is irrelevant:
- The Ascension Text: This the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
- The Bio: A brief synopsis on the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
And some more trivia/facts.
And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.

Template for Dominions profiles:

Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
Domains: Things that the place has links to.
Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
And some more trivia/facts.
And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.

Template for Treasure profiles:

The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
Domains: Things that the item has links to.
Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
And some more trivia/facts.
And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.

Edited by Willbyr on May 24th 2021 at 7:52:09 AM

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015

#207426: Apr 16th 2024 at 4:53:26 PM

@ Shinobi: OK that's fair

What other demigods are in the Trope Pantheon that might be worth a mention? For Zatz, who's got a similar tale as this Noble Demon or Anti-Villain enforcer that turned over to the good guys?

Princess Maya Teca and Zatz, Celestial Representatives Of Demigods (Maya: The Little Eage, The Great Eagle Warrior, Princesca, the Sun, Zatz: the Prince of Bats, El Vampiro Guache, Mi Principe, the Moon)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/maya_and_zatz_2.png

Left: Maya, Right: Zatz

Hall: Hybrids (House of Otherness)
Intermediate Goddess and God
Symbol: The Eagle Claw (Maya), the Crimson Sword (Zatz)
Theme Songs: Maya's Theme, Maya Begins (Maya) Zatz the Prince of Bats (Zatz)
Alignment: Neutral Good (Maya started as Chaotic Good leaning Neutral, and Zatz used to be Lawful Evil)
Portfolio
- Applies to both: Animal Motifs, Semi-Divine, Initially Trying To Kill Each Other But Fell For One Another, Motivated In Part To Avenge Family Members Killed By Mictlan, Night and Day Duo, Heroic Sacrifice, Together in Death, Becoming The Sun And The Moon, Past Lives Of Maria and Manalo According To The Writer, Birds of a Feather, Singles Seeking A Good Partner
- Specific to Maya: Tomboy Rebellious Princess and Jerk with a Heart of Gold Who Grows From Selfish To Mature, Getting Slack From Being Lady Micte's Heroic Bastard (especially from her husband), Pint-Sized Powerhouse, Bird Symbol Fighting A Snake-Themed God, Having A Big, Fancy Macuahuitl, Liar Revealed, Muggle Born of Mages, Brings Mictlan To The Grave With Her
- Specific to Zatz: Noble Demon with a Heel–Face Turn, Dark Is Not Evil, Can Shift Into Bats, Attracted To Maya's Fighting Spirit Perky Goth, White-Haired Pretty Boy, Having A Lot Of Issues In His Past, Rocking The Eyeliner, Not So Stoic, Chick Magnet
Domains: Humanity and Divinity, Love, Death and Rebirth, Royalty (both), The Sun, Eagles, Pride And Maturity (Maya), Bats, Darkness, Redemption, Honor (Zatz)
Heralds
- Both: Their friends Rico, Chimi, Picchu and Chiapa, the deities Cipactli, Cabrakan, Vucub (more so the ones from their universe than the originals
- Maya: King and Queen Teca (her father and step/adoptive mother), Lady Micte (her biological and divine mother), the Jaguar Triplets^noteDagger, Shield and Lance, Eagle and Jaguar (her half-siblings)
- Zatz: Camazotz (his divine father), Zyanya (his mortal mother)
Varying relationship with: Ares (usually an enemy, but anywhere from distrustful to tolerant of for his Mars persona or his Spartan interpretation), Hades (normally on good terms, sometimes enemies when he's vilified)
Special relationship with: Manalo Sanchez and Maria Posada (their reincarnations by word of their writer)
Interests: Tezcatlipoca (both), Ereshkigal (Maya)
Allies
- Both: La Muerte (Maya's biological aunt by word of their writer) and her husband Xibalba, Joaquin Mondragon Jr, Chaac, Quetzacoatl, Cosmos, Percy Jackson, The Xaolin Dragons, The Supreme Kais of Universe 7 (yes, including Shin), Chiron, Mister Miracle and Big Barda
- Maya's allies: Jon Snow, Princess Bean, the Luminary, Kuzco, Captain Planet and The Planeteers, Huey, Dewie and Louie Duck
- Zatz's allies: Bruce Wayne/Batman, The Murkrow Flock, the Zubat line, Absol, Adrian Tepes/Alucard
On good terms: Persephone, The Acolyte and the Radiant Goddess, Princess Celestia and Princess Luna, Miguel and Tulio (both), Josuke Higashikata (Maya),Rhaegar Targaryen (Zatz)
On speaking terms with: Apollo, Helios, Artemis and Selene (both)
Teeth-Clenched Teamwork: Kratos (both, particularly Maya)
Enemies
- Both: Ah Puch, Bandos, Gorr the God Butcher, YHVH, Typhon, Apophis, Sutekh the Destroyer, Father of the Homunculi, Ozai, Cronus, Darkseid, Zamasu
- Maya's enemies: Talia al Ghul, Sofia Lamb, Ragyo Kiryuin
- Zatz's enemies: Chernabog, Antasma, Dracula (Castlevania), Michael Morningstar
Pitied by: La Muerte and Xibalba (both)
Wary of: Loki's Brood
Respects: Maes Hughes (particularly Zatz)
Disrespects: Ernesto de la Cruz, Zeus (both), Hera (Maya)
In the Mesoamerican-inspired kingdom of Teca, the young Princess Maya yearns to be an Eagle Warrior like her mother. However, when vengeful gods threaten all of humanity, Maya journeys to find the three prophesied warriors who can save the kingdom. She would learn that her biological mother was the death goddess Lady Micte, the result of a fling with her mortal father King Teca. Micte's husband, the ruthless and power-hungry Lord Mictlan, sought to sacrifice her to gain great power and sent many deities after her. An emissary, Zatz, was initially tasked to bring Maya but fell for her and vowed to join her quest to destroy Lord Mitclan. Like her he was a demigod, his father being the bat god Camazotz. Through the power of weapons forged of god blood, even a demigod could slay a deity. Along with their friends Maya and Zatz would successfully defeat Mictlan, uniting the four kingdoms against the evil gods. However the battle would come at a high cost with practically every deity involved, along with Maya and Zayz, dying to stop the evil war god once and for all. After their deaths, Maya and Zatz would go on to become incarnations/deities of the sun and the moon respectively.
Applies to both
- The ascension of Maya and Zatz under the trope Semi-Divine was a surprise, albeit a somewhat pleasant one, for two reasons. First, when it comes to candidates for the trope, people were mainly thinking Classical Mythology and not Meso-American deities as the parents. After all, the Greek gods are notorious for the demigods they leave behind. Second, it was thought their ascension would be awkward because they're apparently past lives of the already present Manalo Sanchez and Maria Posada. However, given Aang and Korra co-exist in the Trope Pantheon, and the House of Time and Temporality is a thing it wasn't unexpected. Their incarnating into the Trope Pantheon took them out of the power from being a sun and moon god, however they were already formidable warriors. When entering the pantheon they were formally met by La Muerte and Xibalba, who were very happy to see them. Why? Asides from respecting their relationship, Lady Micte was La Muerte's sister, making her Maya's aunt. Xibalba was Maya's uncle by marriage...and technically speaking, her step-uncle. Yeah...there are reasons why they are in the "pitied by" section when it comes to interactions.
- The reason why Xibalba held trepidations towards the ascension of the demigods is because of the sins of the brother, Lord Mictlan. His brother thirsted for power, becoming a deranged tyrant of mostly Mayan gods and is directly responsible for the death of most of the people Maya and Zatz cared about. His evil was comparable to that of Ah Puch...not the trio of enigmatic gods who act as guides, who merely held the name. And yes, the real Ah Puch considered that an insult, rooted by Lord Mictlan and laughed at Xibalba and La Muerte's regrets...he's kind of an asshole and the demigod couple weren't enthusiastic at learning he beat them to the bunch at being pantheon-worthy. With the relative obscurity of Mayan Mythology, none of the other gods who would go against Mictlan had ascended, not even Zatz beloved father Camzotz^note. There was one Mayan god present that wasn't evil, though...the rain god Chaac. He was fortunate to not be anywhere near Mictlan's warpath and felt guilty he wasn't involved. The Prince of Bats told him he shouldn't beat himself up over it, as he's thankful to see a Mayan god spared from Mictlan's actions.
- The two have also encountered Aztec gods; a far prettier Cipactli. As one of the only Aztec gods to avoid Human Sacrifice, Quetzacoatl approached them in one of his (her) fairer forms, noting that a goddess of good called Cosmos had bribed the House of Death and Postmortem to not care about two incarnations of the same soul freely existing in the Trope Pantheon. His Arch-Enemy Tezcatlipoca watched the two, not intervening as cruel as he may be he holds a great deal of respect and compassion for them for their heroism against corrupt Mesoamerican gods. Cosmos confessed that after seeing their accomplishments, she wanted to recruit for help fighting other evil gods and similar entities. Having always enjoyed a good scrap but mature enough to not be a blowhard about it, Maya simply asked her "who do you have in mind?"
  - The first pick on who Cosmos wanted help against was Bandos. Not Darkseid, not YHVH, but Bandos. While they hate the two tyrant gods who dominate and/or destroy other deities in their quest to be extreme and reminiscent of their Arch-Enemy, they are way above their weight class and Cosmos wouldn't deserve her position if she sent new recruits to the meat grinder. Bandos is quite reminiscent of Lord Mictlan, being a psychopathic war god, making him a natural enemy. This of course brought up a question: what about Ares, the iconic War God. Well, that depends on his mood. As the noble Roman god Mars, or even by some Spartan standards he doesn't want to get involved and likes that they have a good relationship with one another. But if we're talking about his more standard asshole interpretations, especially when he manipulates Kratos, oh he's absolutely right below Mictlan himself on their shitlist.
  - One god, almost on cue, made a grandstand decrying them as abominations of the highest perversion for being half-god, half-mortal; Zamasu. Like Mictlan Zamasu committed deicide against those who would go against his vision, despite supposedly making a utopia for their kind. The fact his Goku Black component took a mortal's body as a permanent reminder of mortal sins^note is just another example of hypocrisy by the mad Kaioshin. The Kaioshins of Universe 7 were glad to see the two ascend as a force against cruel gods. As will become apparent, they are hardly the only literal divine friends of the two. One couple rooting for their ascension was Mister Miracle and Big Barda. Zatz having once worked for the bad guys but reforming and opposing his former boss, having fallen in love with the other side, was a tale they were quite familiar with even if the details were different.
  - Other divine beings from more traditional pantheons count as their enemy. Apophis is perhaps the most blatant, being a monstrous giant snake who the entire Egyptian pantheon is united against. His appearance and temperament reminds Maya of the One-Winged Angel form Mictlan took, and thus the very form she sacrificed her life to strike at his heart. Typhon is another great monster-god, though not as loathsome and more akin to the father of all mythological Kaiju. Cronus is another enemy; though his ambitions are usually not as myopic as Lord Mictlan, being more about re-establishing his old role as king of the gods, no-one who literally Eats Babies to secure his throne is going to be friends with Maya and Zatz. Maya especially, since the only reason she wasn't sacrificed to Mictlan as an infant is because Lady Micte convinced him she'd make him stronger when grown as an attempt to stall for time.
  - While they aren't strictly divine, Sutekh the Destroyer and Father are in their enemies list. Like Mictlan, Father sacrifices plenty of souls in order to increase his powers. He became this powerful Humanoid Abomination by sacrificing the entire state of Xerxes and tried to gain the powers of the Truth for himself. Sutekh might as well be a god, and as Mictlan slaughtered much of his pantheon, Sutekh wiped out all but a handful of his own race in his mad quest to eliminate all other life.
- Though they are demigods, the two aren't legible for Camp Half-Blood as that's another pantheon. They're quite welcome to visit, and often do to meet up with Percy Jackson. He has his own storied history of fighting for and against the gods, saving the world from godly tyrants, and all that jazz...it just ended up a lot better for him. Maya was glad that despite their reputation as Jerkass Gods, none of his pantheon insulted her for being half-mortal. Then again, that'd be quite rich from them. Neither of them are all too fond of the Greek's Top God Zeus, though. While he's usually not outright evil, he's a capricious and hypocritical god who sires many a demigod (sometimes without the informed consent of the mortal) and isn't exactly attentive at trying to prevent his wife blaming them or their mother. For his part, Zeus does respect the two's efforts, while also admitting it's a bit amusing his bloodline wasn't picked for the trope. Of course, he muses that might be the point; it would've been a cliche to do so.
- While no longer incarnated as the sun and the moon, the two still recall their role as gods of those celestial bodies and they have a decent working relationship with the alicorn princesses. They also have a working relationship with the Greek deities, one of which (Selene) shares a name with Princess Luna in her Roman form. However they're not exactly friends because asides from Helios the other three can be rather dickish at times. After having to deal with Mictlan, they don't exactly have a high tolerance for Jerkass Gods, especially Maya. Gorr the God Butcher tried to reach out to them, albeit conflictedly since they're part mortal yet part god, trying to convince them the universe would be safer if there was simply no god. After all, their setting recovered after the depletion of many Mesoamerican gods. Maya told him to shove it since as much trouble as gods have caused, she knows they aren't all like Mictlan and she has no intention of becoming a self-righteous deicidal maniac like Gorr has.
- The Acolyte and the Radiant Goddess think they're a cute couple. So does Persephone, who's into the "dark, brooding kind" if Hades is any indication. As Maya is the biological daughter of a death goddess, she's a source of interest for Ereshkigal, and as mentioned Hades. Admittedly the couple don't always get along with the lord of the underworld since sometimes he's in a scheming mood to take power from other gods, but when written more accurately he's on good terms with the two...mainly Zatz, because he likes his aesthetic more. His half-brother Chiron has tried to act as a teacher for Maya and Zatz, as there's Greek fighting styles they aren't familiar with. One of the reasons he wants to do this is to prepare them for a new potential Götterdämmerung, the kind Loki's brood embodies. The couple are wary of them, but it's more of a general caution than anything heated. Given their own history one might think they might be a bit annoyed at Miguel and Tulio pretending to be gods towards native Mexicans, but they take it in good humor and respect that they ultimately cared more for the people than the gold, becoming heroes in their own right.
Applies to Maya
- Like Princess Bean, Maya was a textbook Rebellious Princess, though not with the same kind of vices as she's from a kid's show^note. Compared to Zatz she doesn't have much in the way of godly superpowers asides from her skill at fighting and cool sword, however she still has a better than normal healing factor and strength, being able to easily fix broken bones. Unlike Bean, both her step and biological mother turned out to be good in the end, but as the two get along she tries to avoid pushing any buttons and risk upsetting her new friend. That being said, it took some time to accept Lady Micte as family and not an enemy. The fact that Micte was initially onboard with sacrificing her only to regret ever doing so and protecting her from her husband doesn't help. With this in mind, evil mothers really tick her off.
- Jon Snow was surprised to see that her step-mother was happy to accept her considering how Catelyn saw her. Maya was shocked to learn that her father had cheated on her adoptive mother, and she did lash out on him, but she loved her as much as her biological children. And despite the betrayal, the two made up and were Happily Married in the end. Much like Josuke, Maya doesn't have any Bastard Angst from where she came from. Given how well she was treated by Queen Teca, Maya's incensed by Hera for how she acts towards her husband's illegitimate children, saying no matter how shamed she feels by his affairs and how unable she's able to punish him specifically that's no reason to vent her anger on the kids. While somewhat flummoxed by how her parents could reconcile, and even her adoptive and biological mother getting along, Hera doesn't hold anything against Maya personally and doesn't mind if the princess vents. Aphrodite sees it as yet more proof Hera should get off her high horse.
- Like the Luminary things changed forever with her birthday. Not a Dangerous 16th Birthday, but only a year off. She's not as much of The Chosen One as he is, but she was prophesized to slay Lord Mictlan alongside three great heroes, and she did succeed albeit at the cost of her life. Fortunately he has not followed her to the Trope Pantheon...unfortunately, neither did her friends. They became Zatz' friends too, and the two decided to go out and find other heroes. She found the Xiaolin Dragons and the Planeteers, a four person and five person multinational team, reminiscent of how her friends were heroes gathered from different kingdoms. By extension, Captain Planet is an ally. Maya is close friends with Huey, Dewie and Lewie as they remind her of her brothers, the Jaguar Triplets.
- Before her Character Development, Maya wasn't too different from Kuzco. She was a prideful, selfish child who only cared for vengeance, and lied to her friends in order to avenge her brothers. Well OK, maybe not as bad as Kuzco before he grew as a person, considering the power he had. Still, Maya and Kuzco are friends, and the two have used their political influence to have their kingdoms grow together as allies. Perhaps more interesting is her outlook on Kratos. Another demigod and one with a really unpleasant war god involved in their Start of Darkness, he had waged war against the gods. While many gods he's killed honestly had it coming, some do not and a lot of innocents were caught in the cross-fire. Kratos has significantly matured with age and is aiming to be better, focusing his wrath on those who actually deserve it, but he understands why both Maya and Zatz have apprehension working with him. Still, they try to work with him anyway in part being one of many who wish to be a positive influence on him and also in part to help make the gods who actually deserve to pay pay.
Applies to Zatz
- The Longhaired Pretty Boy Zatz had a darker childhood than his partner. His mother was killed by monsters as an infant/toddler. Lord Mictlan took out his eye as a child. His father Camazotz was pressured to be Mictlan's top general, and when he quickly rebelled Mictlan killed him in front of Zatz. Camazotz was a Noble Top Enforcer, mainly following out of fear for himself and his son, which makes him a more noble figure than in the original mythology. Unlike Maya Zatz has inherited his godly parent's abilities, being able to shapeshift into a single or swarm of bats. Much like Batman, while he's associated with bats and has a dark and brooding aesthetic^notethough not half as much as Bruce he's a good man. Batman rarely has off time, but when he does he likes to meet up with Zatz. Both think the other has killer aesthetics. Bruce had mused he knows the feeling of having a thing for someone on the opposite side.
- Zatz may have a fair bit of tragedy in his background, but one thing that cannot be denied is that his parents were loving to him despite the dangerous situation they were in. A bit of commentary he had with Percy is that their divine dads were again, a lot nicer than in the original myths. The other demigod thinks maybe that's because the "death bat" re-evaluated his priorities after being defeated by the Mayan Hero Twins. He was definitely interested to learn that while un-ascended, his dad and Cabrakan have participated in the Battlefield of the Gods. Sometimes he composes songs and poetry in a mood with fellow white-haired pretty boy Rhaegar Targaryen. Rhaegar mused that much like Lady Micte his romantic affair had indirectly caused a fair bit of trouble, and unlike Micte Jon Snow still has some issues with his biological father he hasn't resolved yet.
- He has a lot of the traits of a Romantic Vampire Boy, though he's not a vampire. Still, he's friends with the Dhampyr Alucard. As for Alucard's father...well, while he can understand the reason he hates humanity he certainly won't condone his actions. And don't get him started on that creep Michael Morningstar, the kind of but not really vampire who uses women. Because of his association with darkness and bats, the demigod interests Antasma and Chernabog, the former seeing him as a rival due to his role as the "Prince of Bats". Due to their usage of bats/darkness for evil, he's not a fan of them. Because of his bat aesthetic, Zatz manages to be one of few not annoyed by Zubat; they seem to respect his role as a bat-based demigod and he has control over them as an extension of his powers. Though normally stoic and composed, he can be playful with the Murkrow flock and like, letting them rest on his Shoulders of Doom.

Excessive-Menace MaDitto from the Velvet Cage (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself

MaDitto

#207427: Apr 16th 2024 at 4:59:17 PM

Gilgamesh is also Semi-Divine (two-thirds god, one-third human). Zuko is an Anti-Villain who turned over to the side of good.

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VengefulBale Dagded Dujardin from The Universe (it's his room) Since: Feb, 2016 Relationship Status: It's complicated

Dagded Dujardin

#207428: Apr 16th 2024 at 6:25:20 PM

Nuova Shenron is the only good Shadow Dragon who turned against his fellows and helped out Goku, and also tried to get his brother spared

"Bingo! If two species hate each other, they will wipe each other out on their own."

NitroIndigo ♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves from West Midlands region, England Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?

♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves

#207429: Apr 16th 2024 at 10:08:08 PM

Nebby has forms associated with the sun and moon.

I'm accepting thumbs now.

The Archipelago, Home of the Background Magic Field (The Enchanted Isles)

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Fantastical Settings
Description: A chain of 34 islands in the north Atlantic, ranging in size from a town square to Denmark.
Symbol: The Gilmourie Tree's apple
Alignment: Chaotic Neutral
Portfolio: Fantastic Nature Reserve, home to a World Tree that grows under a Weird Sun, its inhabitants know little about the outside world, Fantasy Kitchen Sink, hidden by a Perception Filter, home to griffins, dragons, merfolk, nereids, dryads, centaurs, al-mirajes, kankos, unicorns, phoenixes, manticores, sphinxes, ratatoskas, hippocamps, chimeras, borometzes, pegasi, and more.
Domains: Magic, seclusion, sailing, trees
Vistors: Fluttershy, Gilda, Hitch Trailblazer, Rubeus Hagrid, the Spectral Familiars, Reimu Hakurei
Banned from entering: Lord Voldemort, Pokémon Hunter J
Restricted access: Jonah
Has diplomatic ties with: The Monster Sanctuary
Magic entered the world when the first tree grew. It flowed into the soil, the air, and the water, spreading all over the Earth. This magic goes by many names — glimourie, glamry, glim, glimt — and the source of it all is called the Glimourie Tree. Long ago, magical creatures lived everywhere, but humanity hunted them to near-extinction. The glimourie is at its strongest in the Archipelago, and 3,000 years ago, it was hidden away to keep magical creatures and humans who respected them safe. Now, the only way to enter it is through portals that open under very specific circumstances, called waybetweens.
Places of interest include:
- Lithia is the largest island. It's home to Bryn Tor, a bustling port town where magical creatures roam the streets alongside humans. Hundreds of sailors pass through everyday to sell their most valuable wares. The streetlamps are lit with salamandric fire, which never goes out. It has a pub called The Naiad's Tail, which is popular among fishers.
  North of Bryn Tor is the City of Scholars, whose yellow stone buildings surround a lagoon. The Archipelago's wealthiest people live here, such as the Trevasse family. The city's landmarks include a mermaid-shaped fountain, a large jewellers called the Gem Palace, and Anja Trevasse's palazzo.
  The north-eastern peninsula is home to sphinxes, who are willing to offer knowledge to anyone who can answer their riddles — or eat them if they can't. They carve writing in various languages into mountainsides.
- A few smaller islands have friendly inhabitants, too.
  Atidina's town of Icthus was once the biggest port in the Archipelago, but fell out of use when it was hidden from the rest of the world. Now, its human inhabitants enjoy its quietness, and occasionally merfolk and hippocamps swim alongside fishing boats. Borometzes grow in its fields, and unicorns live in its forests.
  Antiok is home to centaurs, skilled artisans who make magical artefacts and potions. Due to their high metabolic costs, they need to eat a dozen times a day, and they have night-long feasts every full moon. The University of Alquon is on the west of the island.
  Tār has a small population of humans, but its main point of interest is its forest. There, the smell of the glimourie is strong, and dryads live inside the colourful trees, some of which grow extremely delicious apples.
- The Island of the Immortal's most notable feature is the golden palace where the Immortal, the being who contains the soul of the Glimourie Tree's first apple, once lived. Whenever they die, they immediately reincarnate, and keep all the memories of their past lives. That was, until 100 years ago, when the Immortal's incarnation couldn't handle his burden and drank a potion to forget everything. Now, the palace is overgrown and overrun with karkadans, vicious unicorn-like creatures who kill for sport and have toxins dripping from their horns.
- Arkhe is the northernmost island, surrounded by a choppy sea and covered in sand. It's inhospitable to most beings, but dragons like its warmth. Here, the Glimourie Tree grows under a sun-like orb of pure heat and magic called the Solumnulum, that holds the barrier around the Archipelago in place. It's also the "sun" that Icarus flew into. In order to keep it safe from intruders, the tree is hidden within a trap-lined maze that only the Immortal knows the way through.
- There are also some islands that visitors are advised to avoid at all costs. The Island of Manticores is barren because its inhabitants try to eat everything they see, and like to torment their prey first. The Isle of Murderers is a prison colony that no-one can ever leave because of an enchantment.
In order to preserve the Archipelago's wildlife, some gods were pre-emptively banned. Pokémon Hunter J hunts all sorts of exotic life-forms, and the magical creatures would definitely be on her list if she were allowed in. Voldemort is been known to kill unicorns, which is considered a special kind of evil in his world. It's unknown if the Archipelago has this taboo, but its inhabitants take great care to not needlessly kill magical creatures. Jonah is allowed to visit, but he's not allowed on any ships because he has a tendency to make them sink.
Fluttershy, Hitch Trailblazer, and Rubeus Hagrid are all good with animals, magical or mundane. Fluttershy can tame the most dangerous of creatures, and during a visit, she calmed down a rampaging kraken simply by asking it what was wrong. The first time Hitch stepped onto Bryn Tor, he was instantly followed by an entourage of al-mirajes. Hagrid... is much less sensible. He once tried to pet a manticore, and would've gotten eaten if he wasn't so big. Some people have mistaken him for a berserker, who are an order of fearless humans who protect the Immortal.
Gilda's visit caused quite a stir. Griffins are believed to be extinct in the Archipelago after the glimourie started to fade five years ago. Furthermore, unlike the Archipelago's griffins, Gilda can talk. She loved the attention at first, but soon became frustrated with it, so she sold some of her feathers to wealthy humans for an exuberant amount of gold pieces and left without another word.
The Spectral Familiars are interested in the Archipelago because it has an eerily similar backstory to their Monster Sanctuary. It too is a place where magical beings live alongside humans that's hidden from the outside world, and surrounds the site where the first tree grew. They and their keepers have considered letting some of the Archipelago's creatures live in the Sanctuary, but they're having a hard time getting the flying senate (the Archipelago's government) to agree. Regardless, the two dominions have diplomatic ties, and their inhabitants frequently travel between them.
For similar reasons, Reimu Hakurei is interested in the Archipelago. She's from a long line of miko who maintain the barrier that separates the fantastical land of Gensokyo from the mundane world. She once tried to throw a tea party in The Naiad's Tail... only to learn that they didn't serve tea. On the plus side, a kanko (the only Japanese creature known to inhabit the Archipelago) decided it liked her and tried to make a nest in her sleeve.

Excessive-Menace MaDitto from the Velvet Cage (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself

MaDitto

#207430: Apr 16th 2024 at 10:09:27 PM

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Bazzardreturns The Marked Prince from Canada Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: In love with love

The Marked Prince

#207431: Apr 16th 2024 at 10:15:31 PM

It took me months of writing and battling writer's block but here it is, mates. The finished rework of Captain Jack Sparrow. Savvy?

Jack Sparrow, God of Piracy (Captain Jack Sparrow, Pirate Lord of the Caribbean Sea, Smith(y), Mr. Sparrow, Chief of the Pelegostos, Witty Jack, Jackie, "Justice Smith")

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Moving to: House of Crime and Transgressions
Lesser God
Symbol: A compass with a translucent heart overlaid
Theme Song: The Medallion Calls, and later, Jack Sparrow, and, more famously, He's a Pirate
Alignment: Chaotic Neutral (with shades of Good)
Portfolio: Pirates of the Caribbean, The Ace, A bad boy wanted by the girls, Returns from the Dead, Captain of the Black Pearl, Insistent on being called Captain, Badass Normal, Loveable Rogue, Known to engage in One-On-One-On-One Fights, Incredibly skilled with firearms, Making Stuff Up on the Fly, Not liked by his crew and deserted a few times, Jerk with a Heart of Gold, Enemy Mine to virtually everyone, His good deeds don't go unpunished, Strongly opposed to slavery, Never Hurt an Innocent, Opportunistic Bastard, Died while fighting the Kraken, Immortality Seeker, Mysterious Past, Breakout Character,
Domain: Piracy, Greed, Charisma, Treasure, Rum, Pragmatism
Heralds: His crew: Joshamee Gibbs (His First Mate), Jack the Monkey
- Additional crew: Pintel & Ragetti, Cotton, Marty, Anamaria, Bolland, Cremble and Pike
Followers: The Pirates of Dark Water, Captain Ulrich Svensgard
Allies: Will and Elizabeth Turner, Edward Kenway, Aveline de Grandpré and Adéwalé, Gol D. Roger, Sora, Donald Duck, Goofy, May (Guilty Gear), Popeye, Qrow Branwen, Jiraiya, Jetstream Sam
- Vitriolic Best Buds: Captain Haddock, Withnail, Captain Nemo
Friendly Rivals: Carmen Sandiego, Ryu Hayabusa, the Gokaigers, The Straw Hat Pirates, Sinbad, Archie, Guybrush Threepwood
On speaking terms with: Davos Seaworth, Katara, Tinker Bell
Enemies: Marshall D. Teach/Blackbeard, Black Manta, Eizen, Sakazuki, Monkey D. Garp, Smoker, The Five Elders, Euron Greyjoy, The Flying Dutchman, Peter Pan, Maleficent, Pete, Luxord, Xehanort and his Incarnations, Luthor Harkon, The Kraeken, Octogeddon, The Kraken, Rahab, Zhaitan, SCP-169, Calvin Candie and Stephen
- Rival Pirates: The Pirate Captain, Risky Boots, Captain Hook, Yosemite Sam, King K. Rool, Long John Silver
Opposed By: Stannis Baratheon, Manaphy, May, Wendy, John and Michale Darling, Aquaman
Odd Friendship: Shantae, Ed Wood, Rango, The Mad Hatter
In the warm, crystal-clear waters of the Caribbean, there exists a legend. A man with incredible skills and a notorious reputation, worthy of being the most infamous pirate of all time. That man is Jack Sparrow... Captain Jack Sparrow to be precise. Jack is a peculiar man, to say the least. He is an absolute loose cannon, with his fondness for rum, women and freedom. This, combined with his erratic behaviour, helped to make him seem like a complete buffoon to everyone else. But don't mistake Jack's mannerisms for stupidity. He is a cunning and manipulative man capable of talking his way out of almost any situation and stealing whatever is on your person in the process. And should you try to stop him you will be confronted by a skilled swordsman and marksman capable of going up against the best in the Caribbean. It's helped him survive undead pirates, ocean spirits, sea monsters, and the Royal British Navy.
- Jack had travelled across the world, seeing many lands and going on many more adventures. But after helping reunite the Turner family and regaining the Black Pearl, he set sail for more action and exploration. His journey took him to strange lands inhabited by people and creatures unlike any he had ever seen. Not that it was a problem for Jack Sparrow; he was used to the weird and unusual. For two weeks, Jack kept a low profile in the harbours of this mysterious land, which the locals called The Pantheon until he crossed paths with a young man in a straw hat being chased by the authorities. Jack joined in the retreat, thinking the soldiers were after him as well, but he and his new companion escaped, evading capture thanks to Jack's trickery and the young man's... elastic arms. He later introduced himself as Monkey D. Luffy, captain of the Straw Hat pirates, and offered Jack a place in the Pantheon as a God. At first, Jack was skeptical of the boy's offer; after all, why should he trust a person he had just met? But it wouldn't hurt to try anyway. Jack Sparrow held Luffy to his word and helped the Straw Hats in several heists, leading to him being approached by the Court of The Gods. They offered Jack a place in the Pantheon for his pirate ways, complete with a temple to reside in. It seemed too good to be true... but it was the supply of rum that solidified the deal.
Jack's temple leads to his signature ship, the Black Pearl. Originally known as the Wicked Wench, the Pearl is distinguished by its recognizable black hull and sails, which it received when it was set alight and sunk by Cutler Beckett. Raised from the depths as part of a deal made with Davy Jones himself, Sparrow was meant to commandeer the ship for thirteen years... only to lose command following a mutiny led by Hector Barbossa. Jack would eventually regain control of the Black Pearl and has continued to sail it to this day. It is a large three-masted ship, armed with thirty-two cannons and widely regarded as the fastest ship in the Caribbean, even outrunning Flying Dutchman and the Silent Mary. It has continued serving Jack well in the Pantheon, earning a reputation as one of the most dangerous vessels to ever sail the treacherous waters of the Realm of Gods. Even the other ascended pirates have come to fear the sight of its signature black sails.
It didn't take Jack long to come across his old associates, Will Turner and Elizabeth Swann, following his ascension. Things went about as well as one would expect from a reunion between these three Vitriolic Best Buds. Throughout their adventures, all three have consistently betrayed and backstabbed each other, mostly Will and Elizabeth towards Jack to protect each other and Jack right back to get what he wants. But all things considered, all three have a level of admiration and respect for one another, with Jack, in particular, helping Will rescue Elizabeth from Barbossa, saving Will's life by giving up on a chance to become immortal and later helping Will and Elizabeth's son Henry reunite the family after Will became the captain of the Flying Dutchman. That being said, Jack is still something of a wild card and even his old allies are unsure who he's fighting for.
Elizabeth: Who's side is Jack on?
Will: At the moment?
Pirates are a frequent sight across the Pantheon's high seas, and Jack quickly became acquainted with many of the finest and most infamous. His first interactions were with the pirates of Luffy's homeworld, including the other Straw Hats. They were initially wary of Jack's erratic behaviour, and still are, but after helping them fight off an attack from Euron Greyjoy's crew, he was made an honourary Straw Hat, along with an ample supply of rum for his troubles. It was thanks to Luffy that Jack learned of Gold Roger's legendary treasure, the One Piece, and immediately developed a plan to reach the Grand Line to claim it for himself. Luffy and the others know that Jack will probably seek out the One Piece and are looking forward to crossing blades with him when the time comes.
- During his ventures through the Pantheon, Jack Sparrow would cross paths with several other pirate crews, each with their unique quirks and characteristics. He crossed paths with a thick-bearded pirate captain after the two ended up on an island full of cannibals. They managed to escape with their lives, and afterwards, they got to know each other, with Jack expressing his surprise to learn the Captain made a fool of Queen Victoria in his home world. There was also Sinbad the Sailor, who joined Sparrow in raiding a Baratheon ship - which later earned the ire of Stannis Baratheon and his army. The two sailors were impressed by their shared abilities and Jack offered Sinbad a place on the Black Pearl, to which the latter declined, preferring to sail for adventure elsewhere. Jack became allies with the privateering Assassin Edward Kenway, who initially crossed blades with Sparrow from time to time, along with the anchor-wielding May, who along with her fellow Jellyfish Pirates, have helped the Black Pearl with raiding a stronghold occupied by Eizen and his crew.
Not all pirates were on good terms with Sparrow. Jack's plans to obtain the One Piece soon caught the attention of Marshall D. Teach - unrelated to the supernatural Blackbeard that Jack encountered in the past. He wasn't keen on Sparrow becoming King of the Pirates and, with help from the ruthless Risky Boots, had his crew attack the Black Pearl. He was able to escape but Jack found himself in treacherous waters. Other pirates like Smoker and Monkey D. Garp - despite the latter's neutral connections to the Straw Hats - view Sparrow as a threat and have tried to capture him whenever they get the chance.
- Not everything was sunshine and rainbows on the high seas. As the God of Piracy, Jack Sparrow quickly found himself in the crosshairs of the World Government, in particular, he is at the top of Sakazuki's hit list, tied with Monkey D. Luffy himself. The magma-wielder has plans to kill Sparrow along with every other pirate in his home world, but first, he has to catch Captain Jack. It isn't an easy task, due to the unexpected appearance of the Gokaigers. Turns out, Captain Jack had stolen a few Ranger Keys from the space-faring heroes, and their arrival put a dent in Sakazuki's plans. It worked better than expected, and afterwards, Jack left the Ranger Keys for his rivals to reclaim.
One day, Jack Sparrow was in search of adventure, when he came upon a beautiful tropical island nestled in the high seas. He and his crew decided. to set foot on the island to resupply, but they were attacked by a young flying boy in green tights and wielding a small sword. This boy, Peter Pan, proved to be a worthy adversary, easily keeping up with everything Jack Sparrow threw at him - even an unexpected bottle of rum Jack threw at Pan. But the pair had to put their fight on hold; Pan's true enemy, Captain James Hook, had kidnapped his friends - Wendy, John and Michael - and planned on taking the Black Pearl for himself. Jack was forced to abandon the fight and take back his ship. To his surprise, Peter Pan came to help out, despite his dislike for pirates. They drove Hook off the Pearl, with Pan rescuing his friends in the process. Though they left on somewhat decent terms, Peter Pan is more than willing to fight Jack Sparrow again if he ever returned to Neverland, with Wendy, John and Michael expressing their distrust. That being said, Pan's fairy companion Tinker Bell was surprisingly fine with Sparrow, perhaps due to her time dealing with a pirate fairy in the past.
One day, a strange tavern opened in the port sector of the House of Food. It was called the Spy-Glass, and it was here that one Captain Jack stopped in to get some rum. He noticed a peculiar man in the corner preparing some food, muttering an old shanty to himself. “Fifteen men on the dead man’s chest— Yo-ho-ho, and a bottle of rum!” Then Jack noticed a few Guineas, along with a bottle of rum, sitting unattended on the bar, right by a ragged old parrot. Jack attempted to steal the coins and rum, but the bird alerted its master, who turned to confront the savvy pirate. The two engaged in a battle of wits, with Sparrow trying to manipulate the old sea cook into letting him take his prize, while the old sailor blocked every attempt made. Eventually, the two drew their weapons - a sword for the sea cook and a flintlock for Sparrow. For a moment, no one made a move... until the old man began to laugh. He was genuinely impressed by Captain Sparrow's quick mind and tongue and tossed him the coins before properly introducing himself. He was Long John Silver, the only man Captain Flint ever feared, and as of a few weeks prior, a god within the Pantheon. Jack was impressed by this boast, though he was a little miffed he didn't get the rum. He promised to duel Silver another time... preferably upon the open sea.
Once upon a time, Jack Sparrow was assisted by a young Keyblade wielder named Sora who, along with his friends, Donald Duck and Goofy, helped him reclaim the ''Black Pearl'' from Barbossa and later, defeat Cuttler Beckett and Davy Jones. He was grateful to see the three in the Pantheon, with Sora introducing the Captain to his friends Kairi and Riku, whom Jack became friendly with. They often team up to go on pirating adventures across the Pantheon, which often leads them all into trouble with the law. Thankfully, they're quick to get to safety, with the help of a trusty chest. If you see the two fighting together and notice this strange chest on the ground. Do. Not. Open it! There's a bomb inside!
- There are plenty of troubles that arose from Sora's arrival. On top of being enemies with Captain Hook and Pete, Jack had to contend with Pete's boos, Maleficent, and the return of Organization XIII. Among their ranks is Luxord, a time-manipulating gambler who crossed paths with Jack a few times before. Jack has no interest in Luxord's games, and for his part, Luxord plans to skip the formalities and get revenge on Jack... mainly for humiliating him aboard the ''Flying Dutchman.''
During his venture into the other worlds, Jack Sparrow ended up getting stranded in a strange place where duels were decided on how witty one's insults were. To make things worse, it wasn't just on one island; even the seas also had this rule. Unaware of these rules, he kept losing despite dodging most hits and was mildly annoyed at such rules. Luckily, a man named Guybrush Threepwoo came along to help out. Together, the two pirates managed to stop the plans of the undead pirate LeChuck, who planned on raising an army of zombies to rule all the seas as well as teaching some funny insults to use. Before departing, however, the ship they were using was transported to the Pantheon docks and soon Guybrush was ordered for evaluation, leading to his deification. Jack was quick to take all the credit for the entire story, even though it was Guybrush who did most of the work. They're still on good terms though, and Jack would join forces with Guybrush to deal with the various undead beings in the Pantheon. Most notably, the ghastly Flying Dutchman, the monstrous Zhaitan and the vampiric pirate Luthor Harkon, the latter of which created an army of undead pirates not unlike the cursed sailors who once served Hector Barbossa.
- It should be noted that Threepwood is something of an Unknown Rival to Jack Sparrow... even though both men were on good terms. Sparrow's sheer luck has always been enough to give him the upper hand against the mighty pirate. Another Unknown Rival to Sparrow is the short-temped and incompetent Yosemite Sam, who once proclaimed himself to be the blood-thirstiest, shoot-'em-first-iest, doggone worst-iest buccaneer that ever sailed the Spanish main! Jack laughs at this; he can never take a man who is constantly bested by a rabbit as a serious threat.
It was once said that Jack was engaged in a never-ending battle with Ryu Hayabusa to determine whether Pirates or Ninjas were the superior warriors. These rumours were only started by Sparrow after Hayabusa stole a map to an island said to be home to ancient, wish-granting beings. The truth is while the two have crossed blades from time to time, both Hayabusa and Sparrow share a mutual respect, even working together when they discovered the "Wish-Granters" were demonic entities enslaving the local population. That being said, Jack has tried to convince his drinking buddy Jiraiya to switch over to his side, promising him greater fame and fortune. Jiraiya had considered it, but he declined Jack's offers for one single reason: the wenches of Tortuga and their lack of proper dental hygiene. It was enough to earn the ninja a slap from the ladies. He probably deserved it.
Jack has made a few friends on the open seas. Mostly drinking buddies who hang out in the House of Alcohol. These include Archibald Haddock, Withnail, Captain Nemo and Qrow Banwen, the former two often butting heads whenever they're not in the bar. But he has to be careful around these three. He doesn't want to end up in a situation where all the rum is gone, just like when he was with Elizabeth on that accursed island.
Jack often likes to exaggerate the story of his ascension, presenting it as yet another attempt to gain Immortality. He would say that he had taken over Will's position as captain of the Flying Dutchman, enjoying the company of lovely squid humanoids when the ship was attacked by a mythical sea turtle that was three times as big as the ship. He wrestled the creature to the depths of the ocean using his back hair and ripped its shell off. The explosion of magical energy energized him above the level of Calypso. Whether or not this story is true no one knows, but there was a sea turtle involved, somehow.
Jack Sparrow doesn't fear much... except for giant sea monsters of course. He should know, he was devoured by the Kraken before being spirited away to Davy Jones' Locker. Unfortunately, the Pantheon is full of giant monsters to terrorize the high seas, not just the Kraken itself, despite Jack having seen its body in his home world. There was the large cephalopod Octogeddon, the Kraeken, and the truly massive SCP-169, which sometimes is spotted in the vast open ocean. But the one who Jack fears the most is Rahab, guardian of the seven seas. Rahab is the one who sends monsters to attack wandering pirate ships in its mission to 'humble' humanity. Captain Jack was quick to realize Rahab was just as dangerous as Davy Jones, even more so, and he wants to keep as far away from these beasts as possible.
Slave owner Calvin Candie once once offered Captain Sparrow a job transporting a shipment of slaves to Candyland. Sparrow refused, telling Candie in no uncertain terms that "People aren't cargo, mate." Candie was fuming upon hearing that and had since sworn to have his dogs tear Captain Sparrow apart if he ever saw him again. But even if he tried, Candie would have a difficult time with it. Jack had allied himself with Aveline de Grandpré and Adéwalé, former slaves turned Assassins who had liberated slaves from Candie's clutches in the past. They intend on bringing down the plantation owner's operations and Jack Sparrow is more than happy to help out.
Compelled by a mysterious connection, Jack has been seen drinking with Ed Wood (who now has plans to make a pirate movie starring Sparrow alongside Geena Davis), having tea with the Mad Hatter, and developing a strange fondness towards the chameleon Rango. Many deities wonder how he would react to meeting Edward Scissorhands.
To the surprise of many, Jack can speak fluently in Japanese. However, many people have confused him for Qrow Branwen or Jetstream Sam due to sounding so similar. However, the three were able to laugh it off, and their similar voices have become a running joke with the triad. They will hang out from time to time, often joining forces to acquire specific treasures or fighting powerful enemies sent by the World Government or British Navy.
Captain Jack has had a few experiences with merfolk from time to time. While he's not on good terms with Ariel and the people of Atlantica, the Atlantian king Aquaman is not fond of the captain. He views Jack as a disrespectful, untrustworthy pirate with no sympathetic qualities to him. Jack countered Aquaman's comments, saying his love for rum is a sympathetic trait of his. Even so, both Jack and Aquaman can agree on one thing, they don't like Black Manta one single bit. A modern pirate who is more obsessed with killing Aquaman than searching for treasure, Manta quickly rubbed Jack the wrong way. A proper pirate shouldn't be so fixated on revenge and Manta's brutal tactics didn't sit well with Captain Jack or his crew, so they keep a healthy distance from the supervillain.
While looking for new ventures and exploits, Jack Sparrow heard rumours of a "Pirate's Silver" in a far-off world. Curious, he sought out those who knew about this treasure, leading him to a young Waterbender named Katara. He initially thought she was a naive goody-two-shoes whom he could steal from. Except it didn't work out that way. She sent his crew overboard before robbing him. As she put it, "Stealing is wrong... unless it's from pirates."
- After that embarrassing incident, Sparrow dug a little deeper into Katara's history with pirates. Turns out she once aided a pirate crew aboard the Flying Wolfbat during the Hundred Year War, helping to deliver what turned out to be medicine to poor Earth Kingdom villagers... all in exchange for Silver Lillies. Captain Jack is disappointed by the revelation but he can respect a pirate with honour. Katara, on the other hand, doesn't like Silver one bit. Sure, he can be honourable at times but she's had enough experience with pirates to know he's a ruthless killer who would slit his mother's throat for a gold piece. She stays away from him as a result and should they cross paths, she just freezes his ship to keep from going anywhere.
When Jack Sparrow joined the Grand Felony Eleven, he found himself crossing paths with the notorious Carmen Sandiego. But it wasn't the first time the two had met. A few months prior, Sandiego had stolen a map from Sparrow, a map that he had stolen from Kapain K.Rool following a duel in Tortuga. This map was needed to find the One Piece... which she intends to steal from the Pantheon and its deities. Sparrow was quick to act, using his natural cunning and charm to steal Carmen's Chronoskimmer. He intends to use it to find the One Piece. So far, he hasn't gotten the high-tech device to work but he remains determined.
"You shall always remember this as the day that you almost caught Captain Jack Sparrow!"

Time to explore the world!

NitroIndigo ♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves from West Midlands region, England Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?

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#207432: Apr 16th 2024 at 10:22:05 PM

Excessive-Menace MaDitto from the Velvet Cage (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself

MaDitto

#207433: Apr 16th 2024 at 10:26:06 PM

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mdalsted mdalsted from Chisago City, MN Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: Singularity

mdalsted

#207434: Apr 16th 2024 at 10:26:14 PM

Well, it has now been MORE than a day; I believe I'm okay to remove Mr. Game & Watch from Gaming.

EDIT: And done.

Edited by mdalsted on Apr 16th 2024 at 12:32:37 PM

Freudian Excuse: Not one person is entirely good or evil; something will have to have happened in the past to make them what they are today.

Rmpdc Ghoulish Brain Worm from Philippines Since: May, 2015 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters

Ghoulish Brain Worm

#207435: Apr 16th 2024 at 10:26:44 PM

The Fight Continues!

CrimsonShark The Black Blade from The Internet of Loneliness and Beyond Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: One Is The Loneliest Number

The Black Blade

#207436: Apr 16th 2024 at 10:29:52 PM

@Nitro — .

@Bazz — .

"O, Death... become my Blade, Once More"

nightelf37 The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: They grew on me like a tumor...

The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread

#207437: Apr 16th 2024 at 11:06:19 PM

@Captain Jack:: Hang on. I'm pretty sure Luxord is no longer a Pantheon deity. You should remove that interaction.

Also, add Lulua Frixell under Opposed By, since she has a specific interpretation of Pirates courtesy of a local pirate friend. And his tendency to screw everyone over means she would not like him at all. Here's my segment of her regarding Pirates.

Due to having been told what they are by her pirate friend Nicodemus "Nico" David Dieter, Lulua believes true pirates are all about escorting ships, fishing, and keeping the waters clean, and thinks those that plunder or hunt for treasure are impostors sullying their good name. As such, she gets along with the likes of the Straw Hat Pirates and the Turners, really has problems with Captain Jack Sparrow after he tried to pilfer a few things from her, is naturally enemies with mailicious pirates like Black Manta and Long John Silver (even his nicer cyborg iteration), and has clashed with Peter Pan whenever he messes with pirates she trusts.

Once you do that, I'll give you a .

Edited by nightelf37 on Apr 17th 2024 at 2:13:22 AM

TV Tropes Pantheon Group Members Database

Excessive-Menace MaDitto from the Velvet Cage (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself

MaDitto

#207438: Apr 16th 2024 at 11:15:29 PM

Luxord is still in Villainous Attitude.

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lawliet-saw-whet Resident Trope Lurker from Your Head, In Your Head, Zombie, Zombie Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady

Resident Trope Lurker

#207439: Apr 16th 2024 at 11:18:51 PM

He's still here, but he's not going to be here for long once I ascended his replacement. If you (or any others) want to assign a new trope for Luxord, then I'm open for suggestions.

@RJ-19-CLOVIS-93

My only feedback is to change the title to something like "Celestial Representatives Of Semi-Divinity" because the current title sounds like they represent the Pantheon rank of Demigods in general, which makes it confusing imo.

Mood Status: Currently suffering from cringe.

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015

#207440: Apr 17th 2024 at 12:20:50 AM

Good point

@ Jack Sparrow: You already have enough votes to rework him but I wanna say you did a good job. Turns out the slow and steady path paid off for you...maybe I don't need to stress as hard about it making my own

For the Candlemaker, who has a similar domain? That being maintaining the flow of life, creating new life/souls or otherwise being a similar type of divinity? For those familiar with the movie, who do you think would make an Odd Friendship with the guy? Anyone utilize candles?

The Candlemaker, God of Elemental Hair Compositions (Mr C )

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Halls: Elements and Nature: Other (House of Nature), Hair Styles (House of Personal Appearance)
Overdeity
Symbol: The Book of Life itself, with a seal of golden wax
Theme Song: Welcome To The Cave of Souls
Alignment: Neutral Good
Portfolio: Weird Beard Made Of Elemental Clouds, Nice Guy, Grandpa God, Everyone Calls Him The Candlemaker, A God Equivalent And One Of The Friendliest Guys In The Movies, Big Fun, Light Is Good
Domains: Life, Souls, Divinity, Friendliness, Spirit, Weddings
Interests: Lady Eboshi, Darth Plagueis
Allies: La Muerte and Xibalba, Manolo Sanchez, Maria Posada and Joaquin Mondragon Jr, The Love That Moves The Stars, God (Bruce Almighty), The Life Entity, Death of the Endless, Finn and Jake, Shishigami, Hestia, Neith, Anubis, The Valar, Osiris, the Supreme Kais of Universe 7, Eru Illuvatar, Ra, Arceus, Xerneas and Yveltal, Junior the Stork, Alpheus/the World Forger, Mar Novu/the Monitor
On good terms with: Quetzacoatl and Tezcatlipoca, Chaac, Destruction of the Endless, Rayquaza, Zygarde, The Living Tribunal, Whis, San, Ashitaka
On speaking terms with: Beerus
Enemies: the Grand United Alliance of Destruction (on top of the list; Nekron, Nagash, The Crimson King, Apophis and the Lich), Chakal, Zamasu, Ah Puch, Chakravartin, Darkseid, Zanza, Melkor, Ungoliant, Kronika, Perpetua, Mobius/the Anti-Monitor, Barbatos
Disrespects: Tom Riddle/Lord Voldemort
Pities: Cetrion
The Candlemaker is a spirit who lives in the Cave of Souls and is also the keeper of the Book of Life. A powerful yet humble deity made out of celestial candlewax and with a beard of clouds, he's in charge of both keeping the balance between the Land of the Remembered and Land of the Forgotten, and more importantly creating the candles of life that embody every living thing. He has a brother, the Creator, who rules the Land of the Blessed, a land where angels and other celestial beings live. He helped Manolo return to the land of the living and acted as the officiator of his wedding to Maria Posada, along with helping him deal with Chakal. He also was the officiator for Lady Micte and Lord Mictlan's wedding...that didn't go as well though.
His ascension was, according to some, foreshadowed by the fact he was the herald of his divine contemporaries La Muerte and Xibalba. A good friend of bost even if he acknowledges the latter can be a jerk. Like them he also took a modern human form incognito, that being a bus driver, Mr C. According to some official notes He used have a thing for the former, and the puddle he has in the Cave of Souls isn't just a Companion Cube; it's alive and made from the tears of a goddess, La Muerte's sister La Noche. Also, Maya and the Three shares a universe with him, so he was kind of happy to see Maya and Zatz ascend with him as he enjoyed their story. Chakal wasn't exactly happy to learn the Candlemaker had ascended due to his role in his defeat, but it's not something the Candlemaker puts much consideration into. Having aided them and overall impressed by their accomplishments, Manolo, Maria and Joaquin were happy to meet up with the waxy, lovable god again.
His ascension as the god of Elemental Hair Composition is because of his Weird Beard of elemental clouds. Because it's made of clouds, someone decided to prank him by inviting Rayquaza over and use its ability of Air Lock to wipe that weather off his face. This didn't work, in large part because of how powerful he is and it's not exactly weather. The dragon and the Candlemaker are amicable to each other because the latter likes how the former, and another dragon Zygarde for the matter, have the job of keeping order in the world, particularly against squabbling entities like Groudon and Kyogre. As a life and soul deity, the Pokemon that he has the closest working relationship with is Xerneas and Yveltal, the incarnations of life and death. Him and Arceus are pretty tight too, and the latter can respect him for taking his job seriously but not being a stick in the mud and having a good sense of humor. He tried to reach out to Kracko who's made almost entirely of clouds and not just the hair, but the mean little cloud wasn't interested in his easy-going personality.
The Candlemaker's function is to craft the candles that embody and represent people's lives. If that candle is still lit, it means they're alive. Though he's easy going and almost never gets into a scrap, he is still an equal to La Muerte and Xibalba, and along with his important role as a life/soul god he's one of the more understated Overdeities in the Trope Pantheon. The House of Undead and Phasmata was curious as to what their candle would look like since they're, you know, undead and still kicking in the mortal realm. Apparently when he shows them their candle, the fire is extinguished but its still hot and smoking. For Voldemort, it was multiple small and lopsided candles with a very tiny flame, representing his mutilated soul. While agreeing with most he's reprehensible, he's more disappointed than anything he could sully his essence to escape the reaper, and his ultimate fate may be worse than the Land of the Cursed.
The Cave of Souls serves as his temple, and it has a direct connection to both the House of Life and Vitality, and the House of Death and Postmortem. It's the nature of his job, after all. Strictly speaking his job of making the candles only applies to those from his universe, however with other divinity's permission he can make candles for other universes. The Life Entity and Death of the Endless were the ones who gave the go ahead for this, creating an appendix for his Book of Life to catalogue the comings and goings of Trope Pantheon members. Literal deities and divine entities don't show up in the appendix, though it's not like gods showed up in the regular one. Comparisons could be made between his book and Destiny's, though as the Candlemaker will readily admit Destiny's is far more expansive and influential. Unlike Destiny of the Endless he isn't bound to his book.
Because of his job, he works closely with divine beings of life, death and whatever's in-between. Though he follows the rules, he's willing to bend them a bit in order to help souls and spirits in need. The nature of the Trope Pantheon means that he has to relight candles, something he's not done that often, but he can adapt. Though his morality and worldview is more convention compared to Shishigami's Blue-and-Orange Morality, his nature as a life and soul deity means he understands the importance of the Nature Spirit and aids its role in the world. With this role in mind, he's on good terms with San and Ashitaka. Lady Eboshi is curious about him given her prior experiences, but is wise to avoid getting too interested in him. Darth Plagueis doesn't share this; he wishes to study the Candlemaker to learn the secrets of life itself...most would consider his reasons to be nefarious. Junior the Stork is another ally of his due to his role of delivering babies, and thus new life.
He's like Hestia in that he gets along with everyone he meets. They've got different jobs, though as being a protector of the family is an essential role as her "goddess of the hearth" position, knowing and getting along with people is super important for her. Due to The Book of Life and Maya and the Three having a shared universe, the "public domain gods" that he has the most familiarity with are the Mayan and Aztec ones. He's on good terms with them, except for Ah Puch by "virtue" of Ah Puch being a complete asshole who makes corpses and the dead his playthings, and he intends to expand his Hell. Yeah, Tezcatlipoca can be a major tool like Xibalba, but he still recognizes the Candlemaker's importance and he's a Nice Guy he respects. On another continent, there are some Egyptian gods seeking to work in tandem with him; Osiris and Anubis have the role of judging the dead, and while they usually want the heart of the dead to weigh they are OK with using his candles as a substitute if someone fails to be mummified. They had to make a modified scale to not give the feather of Ma'at an unfair advantage, however.
Few can say they hate the Candlemaker. Even someone as notorious as Zamasu, while seeing him as an enemy, doesn't have anything against him personally and might've liked to know him, but his job is antithetical to the Zero Mortals Plan. Like almost everyone the Candlemaker thinks he's nuts and his plan is steeped in blood and hypocrisy. As destroying the Cave of Souls and him would prevent new life from emerging in his native universe, he's considered a primary target by the GUAD. They aren't the only ones, mind you. Darkseid sees every god not under his control as someone to subjugate and/or eliminate, and the idea of taking the Cave of Souls, letting him control the fate of life itself in the Candlemaker's universe...is a terrifying one and it puts a smile on Darkseid's face. The Monitor had been, well, monitoring this and has informed the Candlemaker of some other multiversal threats. As the Monitor it is his job to observe and help the positive matter universes develop; a bit more cosmic in terms of divine vocation, but not incomparable to the Candlemaker's role.
Much as how almost nobody has a bad word for the Candlemaker, the Candlemaker rarely has it in him to hate someone. One of the only exceptions to this is Chakravartin. Controller of the Wheel of Life and Death in his universe, he continually destroys and rebirths planet Gaea to find a suitable successor to take it over after he leaves, harms trillions in the process without a care. He's a perversion of everything the Candlemaker holds dear. The same could be said about Zanza, and especially Kronika who's vision of balance is insane as far as he's concerned. He feels real bad for Cetrion having being gaslit into Kronika's loyal daughter despite what she's done (including sacrificing herself) and wishes she could live up to her potential. Perpetua and the Anti-Monitor are major enemies, as she seeks to enslave him in order to control life while Mobius simply seeks to destroy him along with his universe. Her son the World Forger has been making some Powered Armor and enchantments to give him at least some chance surviving them, though they're so OP he can't guarantee. When asked why he's putting in the help, Alpheus said that as creating life and making sure the right universes reach the light multiverse, their jobs compliment each other to a degree.
On a more lighter note, he has a bit of an issue with Beerus the Destroyer. Not that he dislikes him, and the two recognize each other's importance, but he feels Beerus isn't that good at his job and as such he's one of those beings who gets away with snarking at Beerus' expense without fear of reprisal or even the cat being too pissed. Since the Candlemaker's job is one of creation, his specialties are more something to tie in with the Kaioshins, and they prove a lot more competent than the cat....well, except maybe Shin, but since he was Incompletely Trained he has more of an excuse. Whis, an angel who observes and keeps a sense of balance, enjoys having Mexican meals with the Candlemaker. The Living Tribunal has been observing their meetings and believes the Candlemaker is doing a good job, and a heads up...Melkor and Ungoliant are seeking to come in and marr his cave. Ungoliant hungers for the light within him and his cave, and Melkor seeks to marr the world he comes from the same way he did Arda.
Nekron could sense Nagash's plans to enslave the Candlemaker so he may control the souls of everyone and had the more reliable^noteread: loyal Lich infiltrate that afterlife since he has prior experience. The Candlemaker made sure to warn both La Muerte and Xibalba that "if there's any gnarly horned dude or big yellow hand wanting to have a say with one of your bets, squash him like a bug. You gotta play safe with the guy". The Crimson King meanwhile wants to physically tear the Cave of Souls apart by removing its metaphysical foundation. Finn and Jake helped stop the Lich's attempted takeover of their universe's afterlife as part of their final journey before they reincarnated, so they were happy to help out the Candlemaker.
Said to look like God. He is not the Alpha and Omega of his setting, but he is a powerful being whose job is to maintain the balance and the peace over the world of the living and the dead, and he's quite a nice guy. His aforementioned brother also comes off as kind of a God-like figure if the Land of the Blessed is any indication. Some have even compared his ability to craft life candles akin to Eru's usage of a true, ensouled life is described as the Flame Imperishable, though Eru is far grander than even the Candlemaker. He is someone that the Candlemaker would refer to as "sir", and listens to his advice. He works on his godly duties with the Valar, who usually make good conversation partners. Other benevolent Gods get along with the Candlemaker.

Excessive-Menace MaDitto from the Velvet Cage (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself

MaDitto

#207441: Apr 17th 2024 at 12:38:42 AM

The Dark Brotherhood use candles in their rituals. For example, the Black Sacrament is dedicated to the Night Mother and used to summon members.

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NitroIndigo ♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves from West Midlands region, England Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Who needs love when you have waffles?

♀ | Small ripples lead to big waves

#207442: Apr 17th 2024 at 7:20:37 AM

Ember Lumen and Wade Ripple are Elemental Embodiments, and the former is associated with fire. ^{(Also, he reminds me of the candle girl from Mune: Guardian of the Moon.)}

Edited by NitroIndigo on Apr 17th 2024 at 3:20:46 PM

Bazzardreturns The Marked Prince from Canada Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: In love with love

The Marked Prince

#207443: Apr 17th 2024 at 10:21:20 AM

Drink up me hearties, yo ho!'

Time to explore the world!

SailorVenus372 Since: Nov, 2019 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form

#207444: Apr 17th 2024 at 12:04:24 PM

Early draft of this.

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Amatsu-Mikaboshi, Anti-God and Embodiment of the Primordial Chaos (Chaos King, Ama-No-Kagaseo, Amatsu Mikaboshi, August Star of Heaven, Lord of Darkness and Chaos, Oblivion)

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^Oblivion

Overdeity
Symbol: The Void itself, a black clawed hand emerging from it with a gold slitted eye and his many forms peeking out.
Alignment: Chaotic Evil
Portfolio: Is the Chaos and Void from before the universe, The Anti-Cosmic Entity, Routinely Defeating, Slaughtering or Controlling Cosmic Entities, Eldritch Abomination, Consumed almost all of Existence, Wants to destroy everything and everyone
Domains: Oblivion, Omnicide, Power, Divinity, The Void, Chaos, Evil
Allies: Nekron, Chaos (Sailor Moon), The Lich, Unicron
Enemies: Pretty much everyone. As for specifics, though…
- Marvel Comics; Nearly all of them, especially Doctor Stephen Strange, Galactus
- Gods, Divinity and Myth: GAEA, HERCULES, Thor Odinson, Diana of Themyscira/Wonder Woman, YHVH
- Others: ZAMASU
Amatsu-Mikaboshi is the Japanese God of Oblivion. Originating as an aspect of Oblivion, Amatsu-Mikaboshi set out to destroy all of existence. Having ruled over the Earth when it was nothing more than a formless void, he would be confronted by Gaea, who enraged him with the creation of the Jeweled Spear. She was not alone. With the help of Izanagi-No-Makoto, he was eventually sealed in the netherworld of Yomi, where he remained for centuries. However, this backfired partially, as while Amatsu-Mikaboshi was imprisoned, he gathered an army of Oni, demons and monsters. Continuing his plans to destroy all reality, Amatsu-Mikaboshi would routinely battle Thor and Hercules. From fighting the Warriors Three to binding the soul of Kioshi Keishico to a demon when he appeared in the netherworld of Yomi once he perished.
- When Asgard fell later, Amatsu-Mikaboshi happily took advantage of it. Expanding his influence outside of the netherworld of Yomi, he proceeded to crush the Olympians and lay siege to Olympus. In the end, thanks to Alexander, the child of Ares, he was forced back to the netherworld, defeated. His next scheme came when Athena recruited him to help battle and defeat the Skrull Gods, confronting Nightmare first. Key to winning the battle due to his ability to duplicate himself, Amatsu-Mikaboshi would fight the Skrull Gods after, emerging victorious before being abandoned by Hercules, the other members Athena recruited believing him to be dead. However, this left him free to pursue his plans from the shadows.
- Conquering Godly and Mythological Pantheons, destroying and enslaving everyone to his will of eradicating every last bit of existence, with some even joining him willingly, Amatsu-Mikaboshi and his forces would attack the Old Gods of Zenn-La and crush them easily. Once done, he set his sights on Earth, slaughtering Impossible Man on the way. Murdering Nightmare and taking his powers, many in all reality, including most of Earth’s heroes, were now trapped in their sleep and unable to wake up. When summoned by Hercules, Eternity refused to fight him as it’s be like fighting himself. Amatsu-Mikaboshi would consume Satan, Daimon and Hell itself, intimidating Death into fleeing the universe. Amatsu-Mikaboshi then took control of the dead and set out to revisit Olympus.
- Effortlessly besting and enslaving them all, Amatsu-Mikaboshi proceeded to face the reformed God Squad he had once been a part of against the Skrull Gods, led by Athena once again. He temporarily lended some of his power to the enslaved Zeus who proceeded to take down Galactus. Then, manipulating Hercules into getting through the shields that concealed the hidden throne room of the Council Elite’s Celestial Axis, Amatsu-Mikaboshi and his forces emerged from Zeus and laid waste to every one of Earth’s Pantheons, eradicating most Gods and destroying the Godheads. Overcoming the God Squad and anyone who opposed him, he would confront and slowly kill Gaea, relishing in it and reaching his full power and true form as the Chaos King. Beginning to consume all reality, he would do so to 98% of the Marvel Multiverse before being knocked into the Continuum, an identical, infinite-sized artificial pocket dimension, and sealed away. Amatsu-Mikaboshi, thinking he had won, continued to consume everything in that dimension as Hercules sacrificed his power as a God to undo the damage caused by the Chaos King, fixing all reality.

Edited by SailorVenus372 on Apr 17th 2024 at 12:05:03 PM

I’m plotting my schemes wherever I go! They’re perfect in every way…

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#207445: Apr 17th 2024 at 12:17:22 PM

Greeza is a non-corporeal entity though it's mindless it's nature makes it seek out to erase everything from existence

"Bingo! If two species hate each other, they will wipe each other out on their own."

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#207446: Apr 17th 2024 at 1:32:58 PM

Lucifer doesn't like people conflating Chaos and pure destruction, and is also opposed to destruction for the sake of it. Izanami is the ruler of Yomi and really wants to keep this guy as restricted as possible.

It's time to face your fears

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#207447: Apr 17th 2024 at 3:51:06 PM

Evil The Cat's main goal is to blow up the universe For the Evulz, so he'd likely support him in his quest.

NOISE IS CALLING, PICK UP PHONE

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#207448: Apr 17th 2024 at 4:03:23 PM

Anyone who is on the side of evil in Evil Vs Oblivion is going to oppose him. Simple as that.

Ha ha ha. What a story, Mark.

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#207449: Apr 17th 2024 at 7:03:02 PM

Despite also being a primordial darkness and The Anti-God Amara would be befuddling to Amatsu-Mikaboshi for having a change of mind towards creation and reconciliating with her creator twin Chuck Shurley. Him ended up as the worse of the two might be seen as darkly amusing by the Chaos King. In the same 'verse, the Shadow might be closer to the Primordial Chaos as it is the Cosmic Entity and embodiment of the Empty, The Nothing After Death that is the non-existence predating everything. Non-existence/nothingness/void is what Oblivion embodies. However the Empty is not an Omnicidal Maniac who can't tolerate other things existing, but is simply content with being alone and asleep since being aware and existing kind of goes against its nature