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Welcome to the Trope Pantheons thread! Please read the rules:

    Rules 
Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:
  • When writing a profile, take note of the following:
    • The very first thing any contributor should do before working on an idea or a profile is to propose and nominate the idea on the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning, a paragraph of reasoning to justify taking a trope should be sufficient. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Attempting to work on ideas without a nomination and at least one net thumbs-up will not be accepted regardless of how much you have written already. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
    • If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. For reworks in particular, nominate the idea as you would with new characters or profiles. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
      • In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user, either in the Pantheon or the Sandbox sections.
    • If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters. Some real-life individuals, including content creators (fictional content created by them is still fair-game, but do not bring up the creators themselves in such cases), may be considered disqualified for profiles due to controversies that would make them concern the Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment. To determine where a current creator would be disqualified:
      • Wait for at least a month after the latest significant update for a creator's controversy before any decision can be made. If a confirmation from the questioned creator (or associates) themselves occurs, then wait for a week.
      • Immediate disqualification for either a guilty sentence in a significant court case against the creator, or evidence of consistently repeated, deliberate, and/or intentionally provocative hate speech and advocacy of dehumanizing perspectives, with lesser examples warranting caution instead.
      • For creators with a clear persona of their character disclosed before any scandal, the persona can have a profile with no mentioning of their real-life information. Ambiguous existence of a persona would have to be discussed further hand for anything more decisive.
    • For obvious reasons, gods cannot be followers, high priests, or heralds. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
    • No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
      • You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
  • When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
    • When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
    • You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
      • For new and reworked deities, 3 [tup] means the profile will have a one-week waiting period.
      • For new and reworked deities, 4 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 5 [tup] is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
      • Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
    • For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions Expansion, the following rules apply:
      • For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 4 [tup] is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
    • Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be one flavor text.
    • The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like to look like Character Shilling.
    • Every troper new to the Pantheon is barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles, this means avoiding the usage of "[tup]" or "[tdown]".
    • Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
    • Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for the deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
    • Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
      • On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others. After all, no one is responding to their idea.
    • You can also adopt a profile or idea to work on from another contributor by messaging a request to them (preferably through private messages). Even if you get their permission, you still have to announce your adoption to the forum. Note that if the idea wasn't nominated in the first place you still have to properly nominate it.
  • When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
    • Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to note in a trope example that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, correct the situation by deleting the offending text. This goes for any non-Pantheon page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Pantheon.Good And Evil Colors.
    • Do not bring things that would incite fights; hot topics and 'urgent' news are not pertinent to the Pantheon's mission. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight each other, so don't suggest things that go in that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
    • To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
    • Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.
    Instructions and Tips 
Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:
  • When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
    • Please refer to Text Formatting Rules when writing a profile, since understanding how to make and edit site pages in general is a necessity for working on profiles or other Pantheon content. Additionally, if you are not experienced with English, refer to this forum page, as proper English spelling and grammar is expected.
    • All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also, be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
    • The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
    • A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
    • If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in another House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity at most.
    • For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part of their series' official soundtracks from the media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters' appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
    • For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlight a character's behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute it to the original artist. Due to the website's dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too many bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, run the compressed image through other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikis to look for better images, as even wikis for the series might not contain good official images.
    • Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that make sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
  • Pantheon Content:
    • Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
      • As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally an expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entirely from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
    • Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well-advised not to abuse them. The only house where trope-less profiles are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
    • For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
    • Do not write in self-promotion or blatant advertising. Minor references to something are fine but writing that clearly intends to advertise something will not be given toleration.
  • For Profile Standards:
    • Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place, or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
    • Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
      • Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending on if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
      • On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
    • Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
      • Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
    • Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
      • Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.
    Divine Ranking System 
  • Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warper deities capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
  • Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warper deities that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
  • Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low-level Reality Warper beings capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
  • Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
  • Demigods: Badass Normal citizens of the pantheon, making up for their lower status with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
  • Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.
    Templates 
Template for adding a new deity: God X, God/Goddess/Deity of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)
  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on the representation of power mentioned above.
  • Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
  • Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
  • Alignment: Good, evil, neutral, etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here; the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignments to characters that don't have an alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
  • For PokΓ©mon deities only:
    • Gender: Defines the gender of the PokΓ©mon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
    • Ability: Provides the PokΓ©mon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
    • Moves: Defines the four moves used by a PokΓ©mon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
  • Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
  • Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
  • High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case the deity would be unavailable, incapacitated, dead, or otherwise incapable of carrying out their duties. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
  • Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
  • Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
    • Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.

    • Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
    • Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either from their perspective or yours.
    • Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
    • Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
    • Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
    • Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
    • Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly oppose or are opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects", "On Good Terms With", and/or "Commonality Connection") in terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
    • Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
    • Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
      • OPTIONAL NOTE FOR CHARACTER RELATIONSHIPS: Should the list for Character relationships (IE. Allies, Enemies, etc.) become too big, categorize a certain number of characters to a specific group putting them on a sublist (One example: Luigi is from the same world as his brother Mario, hence Luigi should be fall under the Super Mario Bros sublist.)
  • Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part, the order is irrelevant:
    • The Ascension Text: This is the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
    • The Bio: A brief synopsis of the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.
Template for Dominions profiles: Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)
  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
  • Domains: Things that the place has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as to where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.
Template for Treasure profiles: The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)
  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
  • Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
  • Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
  • Domains: Things that the item has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as to where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.

Edited by Tabs on Jun 24th 2024 at 7:51:43 AM

DoodSlayer136 It's Him from SAGE (Snick Amateur Game Expo) (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
It's Him
#203951: Dec 23rd 2023 at 8:10:04 PM

@ Woozits: Coach Morceau Oleander is very sensitive about his height, having been rejected by every military branch due to his short stature. His fabricated memories include him as a war hero that's much taller than he actually is.

First draft of The Pizza Tower. Long story short its a death trap crafted by Pizzaface used to torture Italian pizza joint owner Peppino Spaghetti. It contains five floors, each hosting a separate level. At the end of each level, the sentient Pillar holding up the room, John, needs to be destroyed in order to open the exit, at which point it starts collapsing and you need to race back to the entrance to escape. So:

  • Any challenge seekers that would intentionally trek the tower?
  • Any restaurant owners that wouldn't be pleased with Pizza Tower hogging the spotlight?

The Pizza Tower, Bizarre Domain of Escape Sequences (Piss Towel)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/ezgifcom_webp_to_png_4_3.png
  • Description: A five story tower filled with multiple rooms (3-4 per floor), each containing a different course.
  • Symbol: The tower itself
  • Theme Songs: Mondays, Tuesdays, Wednesdays, Thursdays and Fridays (Its various Hub themes), It's Pizza Time! (During the Escape Sequence), Bye Bye There! (While it's crumbling)
  • Alignment: Chaotic Evil
  • Portfolio: A Very Bizzare location, Populated By Living Food, Specifically Pizza Ingredients, Encourages Beating It As Fast As Possible, Each Location Held Up By A Pillar John, Whose Death Slowly Destroys The Area, Combines All The Level Gimmicks For Its Final Destruction
  • Domains: Towers, Pizza, Speedruns, Self-Destruction
  • Owner: Pizzaface
  • "Visited" By: Sonic, Ittle Dew and Tippsie, The Ninja Turtles, Suction Cup Man
  • Unholy To: Peppino Spaghetti, The Fazbear Gang
  • What seems to be an unassuming, if out of place, castle is actually an elaborate death trap owned by the nefarious Pizzaface, apparently crafted to torment poor Peppino Spaghetti. What its true purpose is and why it was built is a mystery: some say it's a pizza joint meant to replace Peppino's own, others say its an ancient fortress, and some just say it was created solely to torture Peppino. Either way, Pizzaface used the threat of blowing up Peppino's Pizzeria with a death ray (That may or may not exist) to lure him into the Tower, forcing the Italian through five floors of levels designed to stress him out more than he already was. Ultimately however, Peppino was able to persevere, beating the snot out of Pizzaface and destroying the sentient Pillar John keeping the whole thing up, causing it to collapse on itself while everyone managed to get out. While Pizzaface managed to survive, Peppino assumed that it was the last he'd see of the Tower...
  • ...Right up until Peppino moved to The Pantheon, where Pizzaface ended up following him to. Shortly after bothering both Peppino and a chunk of The Pantheon's residents, he discovered that he could ascend Domains as well, and without hesitation he requested that the Pizza Tower would be rebuilt and given Escape Sequence, considering that every visit to is rooms tend to end in a mad dash towards the exit while the room crumbles around them. Since then, whenever Pizzaface gets bored with just challenging random people to a game of Pizza Time, he'll occasionally kidnap them and force them to run his bizarre gauntlet: beat every level and beat Pizzaface, you get to leave, die trying and fail, well tough luck. More than a few residents have been captured by Pizzaface, and while nearly all of them were skilled enough to escape, they all also end up knowing Peppino's pain.

Edited by DoodSlayer136 on Dec 23rd 2023 at 8:10:38 AM

Excessive-Menace Time to SLEEP from the Velvet Cage (Fifth Year at Tropey's) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
Time to SLEEP
#203952: Dec 23rd 2023 at 8:14:38 PM

[up] Madeline climbed Mount Celeste, which is filled with many platforming challenges. Twenty-Fifth Bam climbs the Tower of God, a massive, very tall tower that houses many different environments in its interior.

Mr. Krabs and Plankton would be unhappy to have their restaurants overshadowed by Pizzaface's business.

Edited by Excessive-Menace on Dec 23rd 2023 at 8:15:32 AM

SING TO ME, LEND ME THE SONG OF BLASPHEMY
Gehayadren Bad Movie Binge Collector from A Garbage Fire Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: YOU'RE TEARING ME APART LISA
#203953: Dec 23rd 2023 at 8:19:07 PM

[up][up]Wario would go in, considering that the Pizza Tower is akin to the levels in Wario Land 4.

Ha ha ha. What a story, Mark.
ForgoLight The Ultimate Lifeform Since: Oct, 2022 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
The Ultimate Lifeform
#203954: Dec 23rd 2023 at 8:36:36 PM

[up][up][up]I think the Mario Bros. would both try tag teaming the tower given the number of platforming challenges and how they are no stranger to the idea of Level Ate or timed trials.

"Us weirdos have to stick together!"
HamanaHamanaHamana Dog or Oni? (Bitroper)
Dog or Oni?
#203955: Dec 23rd 2023 at 9:07:03 PM

I made the Sandbox for Draconic Beings. The profiles I mentioned that would be deleted are transferred to the various contributors who volunteered into reworking some of the profiles. Seeing if there are any other additions made before approval.

I swear Loid, you can't draw worth shit!
227someguy I hate spoilers Since: Apr, 2017
I hate spoilers
#203956: Dec 23rd 2023 at 9:09:40 PM

I added the MLP princesses (and Nightmare Moon since she's Luna's Superpowered Evil Side).

Palutena, Goddess of Light (Lady Palutena, Pretty Palutena, Professor Palutena, Know-It-All Palutena, Goddess of Obvious, Goddess of Light, Number 54)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/palutenassbu.png

Edited by 227someguy on Dec 23rd 2023 at 12:17:56 PM

Everyone look at my sandbox
RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from New Zealand (4 Score & 7 Years Ago)
#203957: Dec 23rd 2023 at 9:30:28 PM

@ Doodslayer: Fry used to work as a pizza delivery guy before he got cryogenically frozen

What more should I say about these two

Richard Milhous Nixon, God of Superpowered Historical Figures (The Moon God, Man of Steel, God)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/nixonmm1.png
Nixon as witnessed by the Apollo 11 crew
  • Hall: Influential Figures (House of Legacy and Influence), Power Levels and Appearance (House of Power and Abilities)
  • Overdeity
  • Symbol: A trinity of a lunar crescent, skull of the Horned Serpent and a miniature of Alcatraz
  • Theme Song: Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring
  • Alignment: True Neutral
  • Portfolio: Walking Spoiler, Historical Domain Character That Became Superpowered, Richard Nixon The Failed Presidential Candidate Turned Physical God and Reality Warper, Expy of Dr Manhattan, Deity of Human Origin, Has A Low Opinion Of Humanity Despite Having Been Human, Greater Scope Anti-Villain, The Hermit, Alien Non-Interference Clause, Created Three Beings Out Of Himself To Test Mankind, One Of The Only Humans To Survive The Great Division, Legacy Character, The End of the World as We Know It
  • Domains: Alternate History, Higher Beings, Historical Figures, Tests, Neutrality, Divinity
  • Special relationship with: The Last Son of Alcatraz
  • Complicated relationship with: The head of/President of Earth Richard Nixon (his AlternateSelf), James Dean (The Monument Mythos) (his friendly rival)
  • Observed by: The SCP Foundation
  • Interests: John F Kennedy (possibly his 1960 rival and former political friend), Edward Blake/the Comedian
  • Interested in: The Son and the Daughter, Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader, Robert Reynolds/the Sentry/the Void, Nolan Grayson/Omni-Man, Odio
  • Allies: Jon Osterman/Doctor Manhattan, The Father, the Monitor, Clockwork, Chronoa, Professor Paradox, The Shadowy Author, Uatu the Watcher
  • On good terms with: Josiah Bartlet, Artemis, Selene, Princess Luna
  • On speaking terms with: Adam and Eve (Record of Ragnarok), Dracula (Hotel Transylvania)
  • Rivals: Abraham Lincoln (as The Immortal and King of Mars)
  • Enemies: THE HORNED SERPENT, The Plutonian, The Batman Who Laughs, Wick, Zamasu, Barbatos, the Alternates, the Iris, Chuck Shurley
  • Opposes: Funny Valentine
  • Respects: Clark Kent/Kal-El/Superman, Bruce Wayne/Batman, Diana of Themiscyra/Wonder Woman
  • Disrespects: Homelander (mainly his TV incarnation), The Antagonist (Hatred), Frank Underwood
  • Lawyer, member of the House of Representatives, senator, Vice President to Eisenhower, and presidential hopeful. Anyone familiar with Richard Nixon knows this of him, and know he ran for the 1968 election. But in another world, someone else proved the better candidate for president. Nixon and Dean were able to be friends, however the anomalies of their world would change Nixon. He would become a composite of Alcatraz matter and following the Great Division, become something akin to a god. Moving to a new universe he would become the Moon God, sending three extensions of himself as a test for humanity since he knew it was better if he stayed on the Moon. The Last Son of Alcatraz, the D-Day Knight and The Queen of the Lunarians formed a parallel to DC's Trinity, but everything went wrong. After all, we were not kind to them. Eventually it got so out of hand that Nixon was forced to render that timeline as fiction, to prevent further suffering. The new timeline? None other than our own.
  • To the alternate Nixon's initial horror, he found himself "made real" alongside the broken Last Son of Alcatraz, now the new Horned Serpent. That horror shifted to curiosity when he learned where exactly he was; the Trope Pantheon, a vast multiverse where practically any series and even some real life figures exist. This included another iteration of himself, the 31st century President of Earth, and his old political rival Jack Kennedy. To differentiate himself he prefers to go by the Moon God, as though he was once human he sees himself as something more and perceives the disembodied head of Nixon as the venal, embittered parts of himself he cast aside. Said self was perplexed and jealous at another Nixon being so mighty, musing "I've seen some pretty weird crap but you? Multiverse theory really is a bitch, isn't it Dr Dickhattan?" The Moon God seeing his OTL self's presidency and downfall was...interesting. He has taken note of some presidents he doesn't recognize. He likes President Bartlet and he thinks Frank Underwood is a lot more disgraceful than even the notoriety of his OTL counterpart. However Funny Valentine gets the brunt of his ire as it was his jingoistic, America first mindset that led to the Last Son's abuse and mind control in Vietnam.
  • To avoid causing more problems for humanity, or humanity misusing his powers, the superpowered Richard Nixon has chose to stay in his temple on the Moon. He will only leave the Moon should the situation absolutely require it, such as to contain the Horned Serpent so it doesn't destroy the world like it did to his own. A supernatural seventies-style phone capable of instant communication and speech in the vacuum is present at his person so he can talk to other deities. He has gotten a lot of communication from President Kennedy, whom presumably also defeated him in the Deanverse if Dean's "37th president" status is any indicationnote  as he's quite curious to see what a Reality Warper version of his old rival is up to. He gets a bit choked up when Dean calls him because while they parted on good terms, Nixon did engineer James Dean's death in the Nixonverse as part of his plan. Of course, even his nefarious actions here often had a good reason for it.
  • Though he has no interest in worship and avoids many of the egotistical trappings his power has, this version of Richard Nixon prefers to go by the Moon God as more of a matter of fact and to distance himself from his human roots. However, while he goes by the Moon God he isn't a God of the Moon; he just lives on it. Since he lives on it he does have a fair bit of contact with moon goddesses and he will give them help if they need be, however he's not "involved in their politics" and only really talks with them for the company. He has a much closer connection to an alien resident that keeps their eye on the Earth while swearing not to intervene, except in cases of emergencies; Uatu, the Watcher. The Moon God doesn't want the tragedy of his extensions to repeat in any way, so he has chosen to work with the Watcher to keep order. One deity they are mutually observing is Odio and his various incarnations, as his story of a great menace born out of humanity's evils is very similar to the Last Son of Alcatraz's story.
    • As he lives on the Moon, he is also a contemporary of Eirin Yagokoro, Reisen Udongein Inaba, Princess Kaguya, Magnolia Arch and Chang'e. Nixon had started wondering if he should move to another celestial body to avoid accidentally messing his own plans up by interacting with them, but those worries went away as his time in the Trope Pantheon has made him more sociable. He did give them a word of warning, though; should the Lunarians he created ascend, there might be some sort of argument because of their differing views on humanity.
  • When it came to determining who would get the trope "Historical Domain Superperson", one man suggested he should have a trope change; Grigori Rasputin. He was countered by saying that they have similar tropes, so perhaps Rasputin could be a more general take while the Moon God can be a more specific incarnation. Besides, it was almost unanimous nobody wanted the controversy of the OTL Nixon ascending. Technically the Moon God is an Alcatraz-based clone, but since he has all of Deanverse Nixon's memories and personality he still counts as a Richard Nixon. Some have also noted that the trope fits a number of people from the Fate Series, however he only does chit-chat at most with Servants because he doesn't see himself as human anymore. Interestingly, there's another president, and member of the Republican Party, that also has memories of being a superhuman; Abraham Lincoln. As the Immortal or the King of Mars he has a rivalry of sorts with the Moon God, as they have differing views on humanity and what is the best. Some think the Moon God is actually jealous of Lincoln for "getting it right", but if it's true he's not leaving any hint.
  • While he doesn't see himself as human anymore, he still thinks of himself as Richard Nixon and he has used his powers to observe some other interesting variations of himself. He figured out why Black Dynamite hates him because that version tried to emasculate the black community. The Moon God insists he's not racist like Black Dynamite, though he pointed out that his poor view on humanity is still a prejudice, and a hypocritical one. Given what happened to his three "extensions", it isn't an unfair viewpoint that he has. It helps that he isn't a misanthrope on the level of, say, Zamasu, who he rightly considers a threat to the universe, and in turn Zamasu considers a human with the powers of a god to be utterly blasphemous. That said, he does see Adam and Eve as having potential to change his mind. The Dracula from Hotel Transylvania muses that perhaps he has another interest given his Quaker beliefs when he was still mortal. Having regained his faith in humanity, the Moon God considers him a person of interest and will consider giving him his phone number to discuss things with.
  • His three extensions, that being the Last Son of Alcatraz, the D-Day Knight and Luna, Queen of the Lunarians. They are clear expies of DC's Trinity of Superman, Batman and Wonder Woman, and they went mad in their own ways. That said they tend to be on the more sympathetic side of the Corrupted Character Copy angle compared to, say, the Plutonian who the Moon God sees as a maniac who he should intervene and stop before he awakens his true Reality Warper potential. Or Homelander (mainly his TV incarnation given he is more malicious) who the Moon God regards as an embarrassment. Of course, being in the Trope Pantheon means that he is able to meet the superhero trinity in person. He holds nothing but respect for them for, despite everything that they've had to deal with, retaining their heroic spirit and convictions. And the fact they in turn are loved (especially Superman)? This has not fully swayed his outlook on humanity, but it has him see hope in them yet. However, he also fears that perhaps there was something wrong with his reality that their worlds lacked.
  • There are a couple of other Superman parallels that, due to reminding him of the Last Son, are individuals he has chosen to observe. One is Omni-Man, who he muses is somewhat of a contrast in that he used to be a Villain with Good Publicity in the guise of a Superman, only to prove he had humanity and gradually improve as a person. The other, and the one Nixon has the most vested interest in, is the Sentry. Much like both the Last Son and the D-Day Knight he has potential for good and greatness, but his unstable personality and dark side makes him vulnerable...the Moon God has witnessed a universe where the Void took full control and laid waste to that reality; the very kind of scenario he averted by fictionalizing his reality after the Last Son lost it. While observing them he noticed that he too was observed, by none other than the SCP Foundation. They have classified him as an Type-Green, Keter-class anomaly that might go to explain the SCP-2736-1 and SCP-2736-2 cases. Some have nicknamed him as SCP-2736-0 but it's not official. The Moon God has chosen to ignore them, but not before warning them they should be cautious with how they treat anomalies lest their callousness cause an unavoidable XK-Class Scenario. He should know; he witnessed it himself.
  • Richard Nixon himself is a parallel to another superhero, or maybe superhuman is a more accurate term; Jon Osterman, or Dr Manhattan. Once a man that became a transcendent entity, distanced from humanity. For Dr Manhattan this ennui comes from his higher perspective. The Moon God is one of few who comes close to truly understanding each other, musing "we both tried to make life in a place less complicated". Dr Manhattan didn't just make JLA expies, but outright altered the DC Universe's timeline as part of his experiment. The Moon God found it interesting that his counterpart was the one to authorize Dr Manhattan's involvement in the Vietnam War, winning it there and securing terms even past FDR's record. Having served for Nixon, the Comedian was both shocked and intrigued to see him be a Dr Manhattan equivalent in another timeline.
  • The friendship he had with Dr Manhattan and the conversations he had with DC's Trinity led him to learn of a being that gained a similar power, known as the Darkest Knight. Or as he's more well-known, the Batman That Laughs. This twisted embodiment of everything Batman feared he would become puts the D-Day Knight and the Last Son of Alcatraz to shame in superheroes that went very, very bad and his desire to reshape creation into his nightmarish image, all out of a compulsive lust for suffering, has had the Moon Knight declare him a greater menace than even the Crescent King and the Horned Serpent. The Batman That Laughs takes this as a compliment, and has rather shamelessly stated the tragedy of the Nixonverse was one of his best movie nights. The Moon God had also learned of the dark underbelly of creation that TBWL comes from, and the dark god Barbatos who seeks to drag existence into the Dark Multiverse. One of the alternate Nixon's private fears is that the Nixonverse itself was a faraway part of the Dark Multiverse, and that is the real reason why everything went wrong. It's highly unlikely as Barbatos' influence doesn't go that far, but he hasn't ruled it out.
  • The Moon God is among the most powerful beings to originate from the Analog Horror franchise. Unlike the Horned Serpent, Iris or "Gabriel", he is not malevolent; and he despises them for it. There's a sort of Foil like relationship between "Gabriel" and the apotheosized Nixon, as they are both god-like figures however "Gabriel" is a Demiurge Archetype who uses his powers to rule the world and subvert God's creation, while the Moon God is closer to being an actual God parallel and tries to act tactfully, being an Anti-Villain while the Mandela Catalogue's Satan is a Complete Monster. Even if he doesn't thing humans are all that kind, the Alternates are far worse. So's the Iris for that matter, and he curses it as a being like the Horned Serpent and Special Trees for "turning a normal universe into one of madness". He is contemplating fictionalizing the settings should they prove wholly compromised as the Nixonverse did. As the Moon God is an Overdeity, the Alternates don't take this threat lightly.
  • He isn't any more fond of the pantheon's official Demiurge Archetype, Wick, either, as his childish sadism in playing with people's lives serves as a lesson in what not to do with playing the role as a god. He is not amused by Chuck Shurley's treatment of His creation as a TV show, and how He reacted when things went off-script. Seeing the many cosmic, celestial dickheads has motivated the Moon God into siding with those who try to keep balance and order to the cosmos, a list of which includes Chronoa, Clockwork, Professor Paradox (to prevent timelines like his original one from going off the rails) and the Father of the Mortis Gods. Out of them, he only considers the Father a true friend because he can relate to him due to the chaos that their children can cause. Though the Force isn't a concern of the Moon God, he is interested in its intricacies and has been observing the Chosen One, Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader. One wonders if he may see some of his extensions in him.
  • As he had rendered the Nixonverse as fiction, there's inevitably an honorary position in the Hall of Metafiction for him. However, the Moon God is like the Crimson Chin in that his is No Inner Fourth Wall; having been reborn in the Trope Pantheon he can now perceive the "real world" of which Ed Dwight made the Nixonverse a comic book series, but is unaware of what Deadpool knows; that said "real world" is but a Framing Device and still fictional, as the Trope Pantheon ultimately is. This massive reality bending is something he would only consider using if he finds a world excessively bleak and hopeless...so perhaps he will render "the Antagonist" as fiction. Probably not, since he's not important. The Authors from Bob and George are of more importance to him because of their specific, metafiction-based powers. Having witnessed the Cataclysm and working to avert it, the Shadowy Author sympathizes with the Moon God's plight and they have chosen to collaborate to prevent the tragedies of the Nixonverse from spilling out to the larger multiverse now that it has partially de-fictionalized in the Trope Pantheon.

The Last Son Of Alcatraz, God of Becoming Evil Not Out Of Choice (The Last Son, Kirk Alyn or Donald Turnupseed (maybe), The Son, The Man, Little Bastard, Jesus in Vietnam, Jesus Christ, The Lord, Our Christ, The House in the Ocean, The Crescent King, The Horned Serpent)

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The Last Son in his original, uncorrupted form.
Click here to see the Last Son as "Jesus Christ". 

Click here to see the Last Son as the House in the Ocean. 

Click here to see the Last Son as the Cresent King. 

Click here to see the Last Son as a Horned Serpent. 
  • Hall: Alignment Changes (House of Ambiguity)
  • Greater God (could potentially become an Overdeity if the original Horned Serpent or the Moon God's fears is any indication)
  • Symbol: A house with a cross and crescent on it
  • Theme Songs: Midnight Dream by Jerry Manolas (as the Last Son), Joy by Apollo 100 (as "Jesus")
  • Alignment: Chaotic Evil, was and wished he still was Neutral Good (forced to be Lawful Evil as "Jesus Christ" and the Crescent King, was portrayed as Neutral Evil in the House In The Ocean propaganda)
  • Portfolio: A Superman Equivalent That Was Controlled Until He Snapped For Real, Fallen Hero, Face–Monster Turn, Was Genuinely Heroic But Suffered Under Humanity's Cruelty, Tragic Villain, Voluntary Shapeshifting, Flying Brick Tried To Make Up For What He Did In Vietnam, Doesn't Want To Live But Cannot End It, Becoming The Next Horned Serpent
  • Domains: Heroism (corrupted), Tragedy, Suffering, Corruption, Rage, Madness
  • Special relationship with: Richard Nixon/The Moon God (his "father")
  • Not to be confused with: The original Horned Serpent
  • Interests: Darkseid, Moon Man, Jon Osterman/Dr Manhattan
  • Allies: Odio (Live a Live), Alma Wade, Archaon, Angra Mainyu (Fate Series)
  • Rivals: High Councilor Kal-El/Regime Superman, The Plutonian
  • Enemies: Anyone associated with the U.S government but especially Funny Valentine, Frank Underwood, the head of Richard Nixon and the Enclave, those who use mind control like Darkseid, Babidi, Death Phantom, Moebius and Yuri, Arael, The Batman Who Laughs, Junko Enoshima, The Network, YHVH, Chakravartin, Moon Man, Lex Luthor, Lieutenant Colonel William Kilgore
  • Pitied by: Robert Reynolds/the Sentry/the Void, Shinji Ikari, Mac Tonight
  • Respects: Superman, Metro Man, All Might, John Rambo, Frank Castle/the Punisher, Seymour Skinner
  • The Last Son of Alcatraz is a mysterious entity, one of three extensions of the Moon God (aka an alternate Richard Nixon) sent to test humanity. Having accidentally killed James Dean in a car crash, he would be motivated to do good and act as the Superman of the Nixonverse. Unfortunately the America of the Nixonverse was not the America of DC Comics, and they weaponized beings like the Last Son, and his peaceful resolution of the Korean War wasn't something theyn cared for. They turned him into a "bastardization of the Lord" and forced him to fulfill their Christian nationalist ideals in the Vietnam War. He broke free and chose to exile himself in Dark Alaska in the form of his old housenote . The Lunarians reached out for his help, but he refused so they transformed him into the Crescent King for his agenda. After being freed of control again, he was too broken to ever return to normal. Grief had turned the Last Son into a monster, a new Horned Serpent. The Moon God was forced to intervene, rendering reality was it was previously known into fiction to end the suffering. Which was certainly a relief for the Last Son, who had come to beg for a death he couldn't grant himself.
  • It's worth noting that while a Superman expy, originally he appears to be a recreation of an actual Superman actor; Kirk Alyn. Whether he pursued the same acting role in some capacity, he's in no position to comment. Given he's an extension/creation of the Moon God, he may have been a recreation of the actor based on Nixon's memories. As the Crescent King he was also subject to a government cover story, The House in the Ocean. That Crescent King lacks any of the Last Son's sympathetic traits and is a despicable villain, which was likely invoked as part of the propaganda. Though he now sees himself as a monster, he still doesn't appreciate the cover-up story. Also, it should be noted that the Moon God may be trying to stop him, but his wayward extension seeks death so he doesn't fault him. He has no respect for his "father's" Futurama counterpart, however, as he'd be perfectly fit to run the US government that weaponized him.
  • The Last Son of Alcrataz had manifested upon the ascension of his creator, the Moon God, and this wasn't a good thing. He may not be as powerful as the original Horned Serpent, but Nixon fears the potential. The Last Son is a bonafied Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds, screaming as much in rage as sorrow that the Trope Pantheon guarantees his immortality. In psychological agony the corrupted superman has made it his agenda to make every single American jingoist suffer along with him for the evils he was forced to commit. While some like the Enclave are certainly guilty, the Last Son of Alcatraz is consumed by frustration and is expected to continue his rampage until the pain stops. And as the pain appears endless, this could mean the end of the world. As far as he's considered all deities associated with the US government must learn to Beware the Superman. Given the Trope Pantheon, it's possible that he is trying to commit an elaborate Suicide by Cop by having the wrath of more powerful beings put upon him.
  • In his madness and pain, he no longer recognizes any difference between the ascended lunar residents and the Lunarians who turned him into the Crescent King. They are ashamed that another resident species of the Moon would weaponize a good-hearted super to usher in the cultural destruction of humanity via language erasure, when at that point he only wanted to be alone to make up for his actions as "Jesus". He goes ballistic at the sight of Wonder Woman, as the Queen of the Lunarians was a Corrupted Character Copy of her, and the Lunarians corrupted parallels to the Amazons of Themiscyra. Ultimately he is reacting out of trauma and though Diana and the other superheroes know they have to stop him as he is beyond reason at this point, they are deeply saddened at witnessing what has become of what should've been a true Superman. The Last Son of Alcatraz sees the Network as just like the Lunarians, that being self-righteous alien invaders who justify their actions with Humans Are the Real Monsters. In short, his Berserk Button is being reminded of either force that ruined his life.
  • A Tragic Monster broken by the evils of mankind, the Last Son of Alcatraz relates very strongly with Odio and Alma Wade. While there are others who he has sympathy towards even in his maddened state, they are perhaps his only friends. Archaon is another friend of his because of how similar they are. Like the Last Son, Archaon was once a genuinely heroic person, only for that heroism to be betrayed. For Archaon, he was hunted down because of the prophecy he would be the Chosen One of the Chaos Gods, and that would lead to his eventual embracing of the prophecy. Archaon detests the Chaos Gods who used his as their pawn, as the Last Son has come to hate those who used him. Yet another friend he made is Angra Mainyu, a bitter misanthrope who was scapegoated and tortured into being a symbol to embody all the world's evils. As someone warped into a bastardized version of a religious figure for the selfish agenda of another, you better believe that the Last Son of Alcatraz could relate.
  • With his history of being "Jesus" in mind, many wondered what Aslan would think of him. Aslan is currently working with the Moon God to stop the threat that the Last Son has now become, but he undoubtedly holds sympathy for him. "Jesus in Vietnam" was the height of blasphemy, with Aslan grimly stating "I know there are so many who would use the Messiah's name for their arrogant and corrupt motives; it's a truly loathsome sin. But to turn the soul of a saint into this sin...I haven't felt such outrage in a long time. On the complete opposite end, people were wondering what the opposite guy would think. The answer to that? Damien Thorn thought it was hilarious, thinking that if he had chosen that path willingly he would've been an amazing Anti-Christ. Moon Man also thought it was funny, mainly his time as the Crescent King since he also had a crescent for a head in that form. However he thinks he should focus on eliminating black people rather than go on a revenge spree. His sane and canon counterpart Mac Tonight just facepalmed and apologized for everything Damien and Moon Man said, and the whole scenario was rather depression for him.
  • The Batman Who Laughs almost wondered if the Nixonverse took place in some long lost corner of the Dark Multiverse. In his travels he's witnessed Superman gone wrong, and he considers the Last Son of Alcatraz one of the more novel ideas. He kind of wonders doing something similar to his own Superman instead of just using the Black Kryptonite would've been funnier. Junko Enoshima thinks the tragedy of the Last Son was a beautiful thing in her own twisted viewpoint, as he is a great representation of the power and victory of despair. Currently the two are working on a "pet project" trying to push the new Horned Serpent into something even worse, which only reinforces the Last Son of Alcatraz's hatred of them; he feels no-one should become a monster like him. And no-one should be used the way he does. His hatred to Chakravartin and YHVH is because they are celestial beings who did horrifying things to fulfill their ideological agenda, just as his oppressors did to him. The former is especially worthy of his ire because of how he tried to make a successor, as it reminds him of how the Lunarians forced him to be their Crescent King.
  • Though friends with Archaon, the Last Son is skeptical about the work he has done with Darkseid, as he remembers when he was turned into a corrupted image of Jesus something called the "Peace Equation" was used. The Lord of Apokolips would like to know more as he wants to know how similar it is to the Anti-Life Equation. That, and he wants to control this broken superman for himself one day. Though it should be mentioned that Archaon's working with Darkseid is tenuous at best, and he's ultimately a Wild Card. A lot of the Last Son's anger towards Darkseid is the same as his anger towards Death Phantom and Moebius, along with Yuri for good measure. That anger being he hates, hates, hates those who use mind control because of how he was controlled and forced to commit atrocities against his will. Unfortunately some deities didn't get the message; Babidi is impressed by the power and wants to use the darkness that took over this superhuman's heart to make him into his new minion, which fills the Last Son with rage. Any committer of Mind Rape sets him off as well; when Arael flew over the new Horned Serpent's airspace, he lunged at the Angel and just missed biting down on its wing.
  • As the Man of Steel has grimly noted, there are a shocking amount of beings like himself who went bad. In a more literal sense, there's his Regime counterpart. One would think they would get along, as the loss of his wife, unborn child and Metropolis was comparably tragic to what the government and the Lunarians did to the Last Son of Alcatraz. And they don't hate each other, but Regime Superman sees him more as a different take on the tragedy that made him, being chaos to his order. Ultimately he regards him as a threat to his regime, like the Plutonian. Unlike the Plutonian the new Horned Serpent has a more valid reason for snapping by most people's estimations, and even now hasn't steeped to the Plutonian's cruelties. And unlike him, he was never Secretly Selfish. The Plutonian agrees that what happened to the Last Son was appalling, though that may just be because he sees a lot of himself in the anomaly. Interestingly they are both the offspring of reality warpers.
  • While not a villain, the Sentry is to a degree a "Superman gone wrong", or more accurately "a Superman with major issues". In his case, a variety of neuroses and a nasty Enemy Without that serves as his Arch-Enemy. The Moon God muses that personality-wise the Robert Reynolds/the Sentry may be closer to the D-Day Knight due to his more emotional and unscrupulous personality compared to the Last Son of Alcatraz. He can still see the resemblance and understand why the Sentry pities the Last Son, knowing that he is one really bad day away from becoming as much of a threat as the Last Son became. He also mused that Shinji Ikari could definitely understand the pain that the Last Son of Alcatraz went through, even if his own struggles with mental health aren't the same. Essentially, Shinji sees his Woobie, Destroyer of Worlds potential within the Last Son. Lex Luthor recognizes the similarities and he sees much of what he thinks humanity should not have a Superman, however most think that people like Luthor are why the Last Son fell from grace.
  • Though a broken individual the Last Son of Alcatraz does admire "Superman but played straight" since at his heart, that was what he used to be and were it not for the abuse he suffered we would've lived up to the legend. Metro Man and All Might were saddened to see what should've been a genuine hero and light in the darkness be exploited and abused, and eventually breaking. His story is certainly more pitiable to them than that of Homelander's. Yes, Homelander was a result of a callous upbringing but his rampant narcissism, and childish villainy prevents him from getting any "sympathy votes" from the superhero community. The Last Son sees him as an embarrassment and goes out of his way to ignore him.
  • He's aware that his "father" the Moon God is an Expy of Dr Manhattan, who has now become a friend of the superhuman Nixon. Dr Manhattan notes that they were both used by the American government to win the Vietnam War, however he did so on his own terms instead of being forced like the Last Son of Alcatraz. After officially meeting Superman Dr Manhattan has come to look at the Last Son with a mixture of pity and understanding. Time will tell what he'll do with that, however. What humanity still lingers within the new Horned Serpent is thankful the Nixon of his world still had the good sense not to use a superman to enforce Manifest Destiny. In spite of his corrupt status the Last Son holds warmongers in very high contempt, and he looks at Colonel Kilgore with disdain. To his credit, Kilgore may love war but he still admits what what the Nixonverse US did isn't something he agrees with and thinks it's a shame what happened to the Last Son...not that the Last Son is in any mood to forgive any Evil Virtues of his, though, due to his trauma.
  • The Last Son of Alcatraz may not respect Kilgore, but he absolutely respects those who fought in Vietnam that actually recognized the severity of the situation and sought to do what they felt was necessary, even right. He hates most humans due to what happened to him, but he makes some exceptions and they include John Rambo and the Punisher. Be it a clear understanding of how they felt, a desire to make up for what he was forced to do, or both, there's a respect for them. Also, Seymour Skinner...but also a fair amount of envy for being able to make a normal life after the war. Given his current state they hope he understands that they'd rather keep a lengthy distance from him, but not because they dislike him.

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  • The Collector, the God who Makes Pinky Finger Based Oaths The Collector is a child of the stars who has the mentality of an actual child. As such, they place inordinate amounts of value on a Pinky Swear, as it was through one of these that they upheld their end of the deal with Emperor Belos, with the Collector voicing disdain for Belos voicing how he won't release them until he sees the Draining Spell through even now that Belos has the Titan's Blood needed to do so. Additionally, King frees The Collector shortly there afterwards by making a Pinky Swear with him that he'll set them free in exchange for stoping the Draining Spell on the Day of Unity, which The Collector does before forcefully yanking King back to him so they can play "Owl House" like King promised he would, with Belos later manipulating the Collector over his fears that King will stop playing with him when Luz returns to the Boiling Isles. (Adopted with permission from @Excessive Menace!)
  • The Three Mage Sisters, Holy Prophets of Patterns in Boss Battle Behavior The Three Mage Sisters, Francisca, Flamberge, and Zan Partizanne were all gifted powerful elemental magics by their master Hyness, who took them under his wing and trained them to use said magics. All three of their individual boss fights feature them using some matching attacks and attack patterns such as a basic weapon swing, a dash attack that covers a lot of ground, Magical Spells that rain down on their enemies and a special weapon that fires a powerful blast of Water, Fire, or Lightning across the screen which can be interrupted by specific elemental weaknesses they all possess, with these traits carrying over to when they become playable heroes.
  • The United Federation of Planets, Deified Interplanetary Alliance The Federation is the the Trope Codifier for The Federation in Science Fiction settings, with countless other examples being deliberately molded after the multi-species coalition of worlds seeking to boldly go where no one has gone before, as all of the member worlds pool their resources to reach for this goal with a union wide organized Space Navy / Space Police in Starfleet, in addition to the Federation continually expanding by inviting other worlds to voluntarily join them.

I know that's a lot and it won't be done immediately but I would like to at least take up the challenge! I apologize if the third one isn't heavy in description but... it's the Trope Codifier. I don't need much more explanation than that right?

Edit: Fixed issue.

Edited by ForgoLight on Dec 23rd 2023 at 10:45:30 AM

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SailorVenus372 Since: Nov, 2019 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#203961: Dec 23rd 2023 at 10:26:55 PM

[up][tup] Collector and Federation

This was a long time coming.

Bowser, God of Princess-Kidnapping Draconians

Reasoning: THE example. Bowser is a weird turtle-hybrid-dragon creature known as the King of the Koopas, and notably is the only member of his race that is a dragon, complete with Playing with Fire and the ability to turn giant, among many other powers. Most Mario games revolve around Princess Peach getting kidnapped and Mario & Luigi having to rescue her. Needs reworked for short texts, even if he does have a lot. Also his bio is nonexistent.

Edited by SailorVenus372 on Dec 23rd 2023 at 10:28:25 AM

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#203962: Dec 23rd 2023 at 10:27:23 PM

[up] [tup] for Bowser

[up][up] A reminder: Reworks are proposed the exact same way as new profiles. This means listing what trope(s) they'll be taking, an explanation of how and why they fit the trope(s), and only proposing three max at a time.

Edited by Excessive-Menace on Dec 23rd 2023 at 10:29:33 AM

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ForgoLight The Ultimate Lifeform Since: Oct, 2022 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#203963: Dec 23rd 2023 at 10:28:05 PM

[up]Oh. Then I'll fix that.

Edit: Done.

[tup] for Bowser.

Edited by ForgoLight on Dec 23rd 2023 at 10:29:59 AM

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#203964: Dec 23rd 2023 at 10:33:59 PM

@RJ: [tup] for both.

@Forgo: [tup] for all three

Edited by Necromancer10 on Dec 23rd 2023 at 1:37:14 PM

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#203965: Dec 23rd 2023 at 10:38:58 PM

Is the Federation a domain?

ForgoLight The Ultimate Lifeform Since: Oct, 2022 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#203966: Dec 23rd 2023 at 11:03:49 PM

[up]You mean a Dominion? No it isn't, I just checked and it isn't anywhere.

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#203967: Dec 23rd 2023 at 11:06:14 PM

@227someguy: I gave my own feedback earlier which I will post again: Zagreus is Hades' son but is a rather amicable member of the Underworld. Would also recommend expanding or combining smaller texts into bigger paragraphs. Interactions with Galeem and Dharkon as well as The Bronze Saints of Athena could be added.

@Indigo: The Federation is an organization, types of which that have precedence for being counted as Deities. Like the ones in Organizations (Profiles)

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#203968: Dec 23rd 2023 at 11:42:12 PM

This is gonna be my Christmas Profile.

Okay, Bowser. Most of his plots revolve around Kidnapping Princess Peach and/or conquest. He’s smarter than he looks, refuses to die or stay dead and is insanely invulnerable and powerful. He’s a family man and god help you if you hurt his children or minions. He’s gained access to Reality Warper artifacts, almost took over the universe twice, and survived Black Holes and Supernovas, just to name a few of his accomplishments, and he is also an expert magic user. He’s Affably Evil, but not towards other threats; He wanted nothing more than to tear apart Fawful, Cackletta and The Dark Star, for example, and is very willing to perform an Enemy Mine with Mario and company to deal with common threats, the first example being Smithy. He’s universally beloved by his subjects despite being evil, and is the most iconic example of a Video Game Big Bad. He can also be a Magnificent Bastard at times, loves his children, and is so determined he might as well be a force of nature.

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King Bowser Koopa Sr., God of Princess-Kidnapping Draconians (Great Demon King, Sorcerer King, Alarm Koopa, Kid Koopa, Captain Koopa, Emperor Augustus Septemberus Octoberus Koopa, Giant Koopa, Moon Man Koopa, Koopa Khan, King-of-the-Road Koopa, Count Koopula, Blackbeard Koopa, Long John Koopa, King Goo Goo Ga Ga Koopa, Professor Koopa-arity, Dr. Koopastein, Koopenstein Monster, Koopfinger, King O’Koopa, Koop-zilla, Koopa Klaus, Red Baron Koopa, Al Koopone, Rappin' Koopa, Bad Rap Koopa, El Koopitan, Koop-Tut, King Tut, Redcoat Koopa, Alley Koop, Caveman Alley Koopa, Klaimjump Koopa, Koopa the Cool, Cool Koopa, Greaser Koopa, Karate Koopa, Gramma, Billy the Koopa, Judge Koopa, Warden Koopa, Barra-Koopa, Kolonel von Koopa, Kangaroo Koopa, Darth Koopa, Robo Koopa, Ka-Hoopa, Fungus Cap, President Koopa, Larry Lazard, Koopa Clown, General Koopa, Baby Bowser, King of the Koopas, Giga Bowser, Giant Bowser, Super Bowser, Shrowser, Blockhead Bowser, Hammer Slam Bowser, Dry Bowser, King of Awesome, Dreamy Bowser, Meowser, Fury Bowser, MegaDragonBowser, Bowcien, Shiny RoboBowser, Dr. Bowser, Tour Bowser (Santa), Big-Bow, The Huge, Mighty King of Guys Who Talk to Posters, "Bowsette" [call him that last one at your own peril depending on his mood])

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/bowserssbu.png
Paper Bowser 
DiC King Koopa 
Baby Bowser 
President Koopa 
Shiny RoboBowser 
From top to bottom, left to right: Giga Bowser, Dry Bowser, Dr. Bowser, Hammer Slam Bowser, Dreamy Bowser, Meowser, MegaDragonBowser, Bowcien, Fury Bowser 

Edited by SailorVenus372 on Dec 23rd 2023 at 11:46:36 AM

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#203969: Dec 23rd 2023 at 11:45:38 PM

[up]He's on good terms with King Dedede as both are very much benevolent bosses, even if Dedede is at worst merely a rival to Kirby, and more often than not an outright friend and ally.

Azula wants to work under him due to his status as a Benevolent Boss, especially when compared to her father.

He detests Star Dream for inflicting Mind Rape upon President Haltmann after warping his daughter Susie into Another Dimension to the point that when she got back, Haltmann could no longer recognize her, with Star Dream consuming Haltmann's soul shortly afterwards as it was in the process of purging the Multiverse of all organic life.

Also he respects Bruce Wayne for giving a home to so many kids and treating them well in addition to Batman being a worthy adversary.

Edited by ForgoLight on Dec 23rd 2023 at 11:50:34 AM

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#203970: Dec 24th 2023 at 12:18:40 AM

[up][up] I would personally put all those titled and names under a labelnote.

Edited by CrownlessMimic on Dec 24th 2023 at 12:18:47 PM

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#203971: Dec 24th 2023 at 12:25:09 AM

[up] Same thing. I would also trim out all of the titles that are just different forms of Bowser (Baby Browser, Giga Browser, Dry Browser...).

Edited by TPPR10 on Dec 24th 2023 at 11:40:19 AM

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#203972: Dec 24th 2023 at 12:34:44 AM

[up] I labelnoted the Super Show ones since they were half the reason why it was so big there

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#203973: Dec 24th 2023 at 1:26:44 AM

I meant, was the person who proposed the Federation proposing it as a dominion?

@SailorVenus: I think you could put Bowser's aliases from the Super Show in a labelnote, because they take up a lot of space. Also, I don't think "draconian" can be a noun unless it's referring to a Doctor Who alien race.

Edited by NitroIndigo on Dec 24th 2023 at 9:27:14 AM

ForgoLight The Ultimate Lifeform Since: Oct, 2022 Relationship Status: In Lesbians with you
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#203974: Dec 24th 2023 at 1:28:14 AM

[up]No, I'm proposing it as an entity ala HYDRA.

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