Welcome to the Trope Pantheons thread! Please read the rules:
- When writing a profile, take note of the following:
- The very first thing any contributor should do before working on an idea or a profile is to propose and nominate the idea on the Trope Pantheons discussion thread
. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning, a paragraph of reasoning to justify taking a trope should be sufficient. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Attempting to work on ideas without a nomination and at least one net thumbs-up will not be accepted regardless of how much you have written already. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
- If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. For reworks in particular, nominate the idea as you would with new characters or profiles. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
- In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread
. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user, either in the Pantheon or the Sandbox sections.
- In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread
- If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters. Some real-life individuals, including content creators (fictional content created by them is still fair-game, but do not bring up the creators themselves in such cases), may be considered disqualified for profiles due to controversies that would make them concern the Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment. To determine where a current creator would be disqualified:
- Wait for at least a month after the latest significant update for a creator's controversy before any decision can be made. If a confirmation from the questioned creator (or associates) themselves occurs, then wait for a week.
- Immediate disqualification for either a guilty sentence in a significant court case against the creator, or evidence of consistently repeated, deliberate, and/or intentionally provocative hate speech and advocacy of dehumanizing perspectives, with lesser examples warranting caution instead.
- For creators with a clear persona of their character disclosed before any scandal, the persona can have a profile with no mentioning of their real-life information. Ambiguous existence of a persona would have to be discussed further hand for anything more decisive.
- For obvious reasons, gods cannot be followers, high priests, or heralds. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
- No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
- You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
- The very first thing any contributor should do before working on an idea or a profile is to propose and nominate the idea on the Trope Pantheons discussion thread
- When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
- When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
- You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread
in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
- For new and reworked deities, 3
means the profile will have a one-week waiting period.
- For new and reworked deities, 4
is a 3 day waiting period.
- 5
is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
- Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
- For new and reworked deities, 3
- For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions Expansion, the following rules apply:
- For new Treasures or Dominions, 3
is a 3 day waiting period.
- 4
is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
- For new Treasures or Dominions, 3
- Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be one flavor text.
- The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like to look like Character Shilling.
- Every troper new to the Pantheon is barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles, this means avoiding the usage of "
" or "
".
- Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
- Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for the deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
- Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
- On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others. After all, no one is responding to their idea.
- You can also adopt a profile or idea to work on from another contributor by messaging a request to them (preferably through private messages). Even if you get their permission, you still have to announce your adoption to the forum. Note that if the idea wasn't nominated in the first place you still have to properly nominate it.
- When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
- Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to note in a trope example that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, correct the situation by deleting the offending text. This goes for any non-Pantheon page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Pantheon.Good And Evil Colors.
- Do not bring things that would incite fights; hot topics and 'urgent' news are not pertinent to the Pantheon's mission. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight each other, so don't suggest things that go in that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
- To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
- Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.
- When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
- Please refer to Text Formatting Rules when writing a profile, since understanding how to make and edit site pages in general is a necessity for working on profiles or other Pantheon content. Additionally, if you are not experienced with English, refer to this forum page
, as proper English spelling and grammar is expected.
- All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also, be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
- The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
- A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
- If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in another House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity at most.
- For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part of their series' official soundtracks from the media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters' appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
- For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlight a character's behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute it to the original artist. Due to the website's dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website
is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too many bytes, it is suggestible to use this site
to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, run the compressed image through other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikis to look for better images, as even wikis for the series might not contain good official images.
- Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that make sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
- Please refer to Text Formatting Rules when writing a profile, since understanding how to make and edit site pages in general is a necessity for working on profiles or other Pantheon content. Additionally, if you are not experienced with English, refer to this forum page
- Pantheon Content:
- Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
- As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally an expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entirely from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
- Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well-advised not to abuse them. The only house where trope-less profiles are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
- For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
- Do not write in self-promotion or blatant advertising. Minor references to something are fine but writing that clearly intends to advertise something will not be given toleration.
- Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
- For Profile Standards:
- Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place, or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
- Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
- A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
- Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending on if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
- On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
- Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
- A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
- Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
- Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
- A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
- Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.
- Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warper deities capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
- Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warper deities that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
- Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low-level Reality Warper beings capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
- Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
- Demigods: Badass Normal citizens of the pantheon, making up for their lower status with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
- Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.
- An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
- Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on the representation of power mentioned above.
- Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
- Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud
or YouTube
.
- Alignment: Good, evil, neutral, etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here; the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignments to characters that don't have an alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
- For Pokémon deities only:
- Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
- Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
- Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
- Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
- Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
- Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
- High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case the deity would be unavailable, incapacitated, dead, or otherwise incapable of carrying out their duties. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
- Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
- Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
- Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
- Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
- Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either from their perspective or yours.
- Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
- Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
- Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
- Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
- Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly oppose or are opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects", "On Good Terms With", and/or "Commonality Connection") in terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
- Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
- Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
- OPTIONAL NOTE FOR CHARACTER RELATIONSHIPS: Should the list for Character relationships (IE. Allies, Enemies, etc.) become too big, categorize a certain number of characters to a specific group putting them on a sublist (One example: Luigi is from the same world as his brother Mario, hence Luigi should be fall under the Super Mario Bros sublist.)
- Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part, the order is irrelevant:
- The Ascension Text: This is the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
- The Bio: A brief synopsis of the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
- Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
- And some more trivia/facts.
- And a couple more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.
- An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
- Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
- Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
- Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
- Domains: Things that the place has links to.
- Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as to where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
- Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
- Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
- And some more trivia/facts.
- And a couple more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.
- An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
- Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
- Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
- Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
- Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
- Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
- Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
- Domains: Things that the item has links to.
- Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as to where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
- Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
- Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
- And some more trivia/facts.
- And a couple more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.
Edited by Tabs on Jun 24th 2024 at 7:51:43 AM
for Horny Snake Horned Serpent and James Bean Dean.
@faso: The League of Super Evil often gets themselves in humiliating losses and circumstances for their "evil" plots (including bullying the nearby neighborhood kids), and Rottweiler is an insufferable neighbor who often ruins the joy of people around him, but Woody always sets up fitting pranks in retaliation.
The Grandmas of Cookie Clicker are a horde of baking grandmas that are actually part of an eldritch collective and can cause a Grandmapocalypse. The game itself is known for being a simple "get more cookies" game that gets more and more frantic and weird, being interpreted often as a satire of capitalism and obsession with numeric growth as the flavor text for upgrades demonstrates the absurdity of tying everything to optimal cookie production starting from child labor and dangerous portals to the point of actually overthrowing the normal economy, exploiting said Grandmapocalypse, even turning the code, other universes, and yourself into more sources of cookies.
for Ocelot
Thanks for the thumbs up. I'll get along ascending them
What should I add to Nut's part of the profile?
Geb and Nut, Divine Couple Of Incest Amongst The Gods (Geb: Seb, Keb, Son of the Earth, God of Earth and Mines, King of the Riches Under the Earth, Father Under the Skies and Sands, Lord Earth, Gebthant, Gebakotep, Nut: Nenu, Nunut, Nent, Nuit, Goddess of the Sky, The Star-Spangled Goddess)



- Votes: 1 (Crimson Shark)
- Note: Restoration+expansion
- Halls: Incestuous Dynamics (House of Family and Relatives), Divine Behavior (House of Religion and Faith)
- Greater God and Goddess
- Symbol: The arc of a dark blue night sky over the ground (both), the goose on top of his head (Geb), a starry dark blue water pot (Nut)
- Alignment: True Neutral
- Portfolio
- Applies to both: Divine Twincest (both practitioners and the result of), Flipped Genders For Earth and Sky Deities, Happily Married, Their Dad Hates Their Relationship But That Won't Stop Them, Which Is Why Sky And Land Are Separate, Star-Crossed Lovers, Twins Are Special And Hereditary
- Applies to Geb: Earth Father, Father Nature, Dishing Out Dirt, Green Thumb
- Applies to Nut: Celestial Body, Amazing Technicolor Population, Notable Legs, Her Name Is Kind Of Awkward Nowadays
- Domains: Twins, Incest, Love, Divinity, Celestial Beings, Creation Myths (both), the Earth, Geese, Earthquakes, Crops (Geb), the Sky, Stars, Cows (Nut)
- Heralds: Shu and Tefnut (their parentsnote ), Nephthys (their daughter)
- Venerated by: Most ascended pharaohs (Anarkis, Tutankahmun, Yami Yugi and to a lesser extent Cleopatra)
- Special relationship with: Neith (their great-grandmother sometimes), Osiris, Set and, Isis (their kids), Anubis, Horus and Sobek (their grandsons)
- Allies
- Both of them: Their kids (yes, even Set), Zia Rashid, Romeo and Juliet, Aphrodite, Eros
- Geb only: Regirock, Toph Beifong, Optimus Prime, Groot, Iron Giant, Usagi Tsukino, Captain Planet, Graboids, Clark Kent/Superman, Mogo, Aule
- Nut only: Rosalina and the Lumas, Miltank, Nyx, most friendly Death personifications (especially Death of the Endless), Princess Celestia and Luna (mainly Luna), Aurelion Sol, Eternity, Andromeda, Ristar
- On good terms with: Haruka and Sora Kasugano, Pangu, Hadesnote and Persephone (both), the House of Plants (Geb), most solar and lunar deities (Nut)
- On speaking terms with: The Alpha and Omega, the God known by Bob (both), Lilith (SMT) (Geb)
- Rivals: Groudon (Geb), Ouranos (Nut)
- Friendly Rivalry with: Gaea (Geb)
- Enemies
- Both of them: Apophis, YHVH, Grandfather (both equally), Amatsu-Mikaboshi, the Crimson King (Nut especially)
- Geb only: Hexxus, Hedorah, anyone who tries to destroy the Earth, The Iris
- Nut only: The C'Tan
- Opposes: Ra (their grandfather sometimes), Ahkenaten, Aerys II Targaryen, Cersei Lannister (both), Cronus (Geb)
- On poor terms with: Al'akir, Fujin (both)
- Annoyed by: Belarus, Ramses (both), Beavis and Butthead (Nut)
- Pities: Jaime Lannister, Hansel and Gretel, Izanami-no-Mikoto, Romeo and Juliet (both)
- Amused by: The Goose (Geb)
- Respects: Most Happily Married deities like Gomez and Morticia Adams unless they're too evil
- Incest amongst gods often lacks the taboo that incest amongst humanity does. After all, when you're a literal deity the dangers of inbreeding usually aren't there and there usually aren't that many options. Geb and Nut are elder deities of the earth and sky, being twins in love. Their father Shu also married his twin Tefnut but he apparently didn't care for their relationship, so he forces earth and sky to be separate; in fairness, it's kind of hard for life to thrive when the earth and sky are so close. This didn't stop them from canoodling and having quadruplets, who coupled up as Osiris and Isis, and Set and Nephthys. Ra tried to stop their procreations by made it so that Nut would be sterile for every day of the year. Thoth decided to help her out by gambling with Khonsu for 1/72nd of Moon's light, adding an additional five days to the year where Nut was free to have as many children as she could bear; this why there are 365 days in a yearnote .
- Applies to both
- Geb used to be a member of the Trope Pantheon, under the Rock Monster trope. Over time however the Court of the Gods chose to let him go because he wasn't upkeeping his temple and said trope was only applicable to his Smite incarnation. He accepted this if only because he swore that somehow he would bring his sister-wife Nut into the Trope Pantheon. The couple celebrated finally being able to reunite and not having to deal with their dad blocking them. However they still aren't allowed to get that physical, not because it is gross (they're gods, they get a pass on incest) but they don't want to cause too much chaos with the earth and sky being too close together. The one who organized their reunion? Their grandfather Ra...when he is their grandfather. It's a long story involving the primordial Atum.
- Another factor behind their ascension were good words put in by Zia Rashid, a magician and scribe of the House of Life and a member of the First Nome who had an important role in protecting Egypt. Further support was given by deities of another pantheon; Aphrodite and Eros. Aphrodite is all about supporting her OTPs and was pissed at their father getting in the way of true love so out of support for them, and spite towards Shu had her son Eros help ascend them as a couple. Another deity, Pangu, found this a rather interesting development. In his own cosmology his body would become the cosmos, and the creator of yin and yang found Geb and Nut's ascension to be a tantalizing prospect. However Geb was going to need the skinny on everything that's happened since he left; to start with, Regirock has found another partner.
- Shu was still really persistent and put his foot down that they better make him and his sister-wife/their mom Tefnut their heralds, as they were original incestuous Egyptian power couple. This was to watch them and try to curtail their relationship, but it backfired big time when he realized being their herald meant being lesser on the pantheonic totem pole. Worse for Shu; it means he can never ascend in proper because his kids already have Divine Incest. Talk about an Epic Fail! Set had a laugh about this and his parents getting a win, as in spite of Geb and Nut's descendants often being in conflict they love them equally. The only Egyptian deity they're united in opposition with is Apophis, for obvious reasons. They aren't too fond of Ahkenaten either due to choosing monotheism in the form of a sun disc, reminding them of the grandfather they don't like. The other pharaohs still respect them as deities so the couple are cool with them, though they think Ramses shoud call off.
- Neither are that fond of wind-related deities. Their dad Shu was a wind deity, and they're still salty about him. Shu tried to place the blame to Ra because he told him to separate them; they know, but they're still annoyed at him following orders and Ra has told the two to suck it up, much to their frustration. Part of why he did this was because he foresaw one of their kids would overthrow them. The two got into a bit of an argy-bargy with Azir due to mistaking him for their grandfather, but after realizing they mistook him apologized for the whole affair. Al'Azir and Fujin aren't fond of them projecting their own issues on them. On a more serious note, neither are fond of Cersei Lannister. Yes they understand her and Jaime's Twincest but they consider her an abusive partner, and feel bad for what happened to Jaime. Of course, they acknowledge that as much they're frustrated by Shu he's still a better dad than Tywin.
- Geb and Nut are seen as a Foil to Gaea and Ouranos, another incestuous coupling of land and sky. Ouranos was an Abusive Offspring who sealed away his more monstrous-looking children for "being ugly" so Gaea got their son Cronus to castrate him in vengeance, and outside of maybe joining forces to help Rhea hide baby Zeus they've never reconciled. There's a fair bit of envy towards, but also respect from the Earth Mother to the couple. Hades and Persephone also ship the two. The two have a soft spot towards Romeo and Juliet because of their own forbidden love. Generally, the two are in favor for anyone who is Happily Married. They feel somewhat bad for Izanami due to what she became after her Death by Childbirth.
- Because they are Egyptian deities they have a rocky first impression with those connected to Biblical lore. YHVH has certainly not helped as His obsessive need for control and being the only deity of worship is offensive to them, especially since it reminds them of the whole "Cult of Aten" malarky. However the actually good Gods like the Alpha and the Omega, and the one known by Bob, are more accepting of them even if they don't hang out persay. Also, because of their frustration with their grandfather Ra they are inclined to hate Grandfather for being, like, the worst grandpa ever. They're also annoyed by Belarus for her incessant stalking of her brother. They have no issue with the incest obviously, but the Yandere? No thank you.
- Applies to Geb
- Geb blesses the land with a plentiful harvest for men. He represents the land in both the harsh deserts and the lust fertile ground, though he's more often associated with the latter. As such, he is sometimes treated as the consort of Renenutet, the goddess of vegetation and harvest, and the father of a snake deity called Nehebkau. This isn't that widespread, though Geb is known for being associated with snakes and sometimes he will be depicted with the head of one. He was even thought as a father of snakes. He likes the fashion statement the SMT version of Lilith has, though outside of opposing YHVH isn't one for "her politics". As she desires to reunite with the first man Adam she understands his desire to be with his beloved sister-wife. She mused on how since his parents are the ancestors/creators of all human and animal life in his mythos, what Adam might think of them and Geb.
- As mentioned, Geb originally debuted in his Smite where he loses a lot of his good looks and becomes a Rock Monster. Its thematically appropriate but he can't imagine Nut'll be happy if she has to take an inorganic form should she be added to the roster. He'd have to ask their great-grandmothernote Neith if she can give a good word in to bring Nut into the game. Though Geb looks fearsome in this form he is a Gentle Giant; this makes him pretty good friends with both Groot and Iron Giant. When in combat, Geb always tries to end it as peacefully as possible. This mentality has made him good friends with the likes of Optimus Prime and Usagi Tsukino. Usagi has also sympathized with Geb's plight of being separated by his wife and she hopes to help on anyway she can to reunite the two.
- Geb had additional experience as to how the Trope Pantheon works thanks to having involved himself with Dungeons & Dragons. Within the Forgotten Realms he has a church in Mulhorand. It’s a hereditary church with the priests being members of the House of Gebthant. Each member has at least one ancestor that was a human incarnation of Geb. Despite this dwarves and gnomes are also known to be a part of said church, just not as priests. Displease him and you'll deal with a personal earthquake, but please him and follow his will and you'll be rewarded with gems. Miners who worship him are warned of unsafe areas with cracks on the ground and rock. In the Elemental Plane of Earth, he's considered the God to worship for travelers. Because the world is just Earth, and you'll effectively need Divine Intervention to survive. In this form he gets along with Aule, what with him being the crafty Valar who made the dwarves in his 'verse. Geb has given his blessings to any gnome or dwarf deity who respects his element, and could potentially give them Mithril for a valiant service.
- Has been known to create earthquakes every time he laughs. Once he saw a comedy special at the House of Theatre and Spectacle and nearly destroyed the entire house. In his defense Geb doesn't mean to cause earthquakes, but he's so powerful that it happens. Not wanting to cause more fuss, he has asked Clark Kent to help him in controlling his power. Geb felt he kind of owed it to him because he's stopped the Earth from being conquered/destroyed hundreds of times at this point, and well he is the Earth. So if any Planet Eater or world destroyer is going to threaten Earth/him yet again he'll be ready to throw hands once he's had his boxing lessons from Superman.
- Compared to the Grecian Earth Mother, the Egyptian Earth Father is a lot more chill and he has tried to advise Gaea in "not getting involved in your descendants' BS". For the most part Gaea and Geb get along, but they do have somewhat of a Friendly Rivalry in who does the job better. For some reason Cronus was compared to Geb by classical authors, which he finds rather offensive for obvious reasons...though to give the devil's due, Cronus did rule over a Golden Age before paranoia got the better of him. He's definitely more chill than Groudon, the Olympus Mons of land who is constantly feuding with its opposite. Groudon is pretty territorial towards Geb, but the Egyptian god tries to not let it get to him.
- He is also known to have geese as his sacred animal, who in depictions typically rest on his head. His laughter was causing a bit of trouble again when he witnessed the antics of the Goose. His (metaphorical?) air was tugged by Gaea, who wanted to talk with him about something more serious. She pointed out that as a being who maintains crops and vegetation along with other earth and land-based domains, perhaps he should aid the Nature Preservers and the House of Plants. Geb decided she's right; he'd had enough fooling around and so has focused on trying to purge walking pollution elementals like Hexxus and Hedorah. Geb has been supporting Captain Planet and his friends in their endeavors since.
- Hostile planets like the Iris can GTFO as far as Geb is concerned. Benevolent planets like Mogo are welcome, however. Toph Beifong is welcome to benefit from his patronage due to her earth-based powers and good nature, even if she took Regirock as her partner. Yeah, he felt some kinship with the stone Golem, especially in his Rock Monster form, but that doesn't mean they need to be partners in order to be friends. Also, he's not all that fond of one of Dio's men naming their Stand after them. He is kind of amused by the irony that the Stand with his name is water based, but would prefer it if Dio keeps his "shenanigans" outside of Egypt.
- Applies to Nut
- Nut is the goddess of the sky, and all that implies. Not in the sense of being a wind deity (that'd be her dad), but in having a blue Celestial Body. Appearance-wise she's been compared to Andromeda and Eternity, though more human-looking. As a benevolent celestial being, she tends to get along with them. She has a fondness for Rosalina and the Lumas as being an important part of the sky she embodies, and Nut's arms and legs act as the cardinal directions. Some consider her a figure of Fanservice because of her legs, however Nut considers this crude; she is trying to form a sky/dome over the Earth/her husband, not flaunt what she's got. If you want a Shameless Fanservice Girl, Bastet and Hathor are available.
- During the day the Sun and Moon make their way across their body, and at dusk she swallows them so they may go through her belly and be reborn the next morning. Don't compare this to planet eating or star killing; she is not like the gluttonous C'Tan who poison and feast on stars, and when given souls prove malicious on a human level. Also, she rolls her eyes whenever any vore jokes are made at her expense about this. Her body serves as a protection to those who embody or are in charge of the sun and/or moon, like the Princesses of Equestria. Also of note is that Nut's sacred animal is the cow, which is probably why she has a soft spot for Miltank.
- Compared to Geb and Gaea's civil yet competitive relationship, Ouranos and Nut get on pretty poorly. The Greek primordial is seen as a pretty big asshole with a hostile relationship to his earth deity and especially his kids, though not without redeeming traitsnote . More than anything, he's jealous of her. The two are in conflict over who should be the sky parent, however he will aid her in holding back the Primordial Chaos that Nut acts as a physical barrier. After all, he wants something to rule over. Since the Crimson King and Amatsu-Mikaboshi are omnicidal maniacs in the same vein as Apophis, Geb works with both of them to prevent their encroachment.
- Nyx is a being a lot older and more powerful than Nut, however the two have a good relationship. After all, they both look after their own and the night is an important aspect of the sky. Nut isn't the Egyptian goddess of darkness, however; that would be the primordial Kek. However Nut does have a connection to a force often associated with darkness; death. Her son and grandson are death gods, but she is a friend and protector of the dead, who appealed to her as a child appeals to its mother. She's believed to draw the dead into her star-filled sky, and refresh them with food and wine. Overall Nut has a good relationship with Death incarnations should they be righteous in their actions. She's fond of Death of the Endless, though made the initial mistake of treating her like a kid until realizing she was far older and more powerful than her.
- Yes, she knows what some immature folks think of when they think of Nut. Ouranos told her "oh, I've been there; you're name's not that awkward", only for her to reply "you stop caring when you keep hearing it. I just wish Beavis and Butthead stopped acting like it's some new, funny thing". Her grandson Sobek disagrees and has said that there's more ways to make it funny, which didn't surprise her as one of his epithets is "he who steals wives from their husbands".
Peek A Bangs has been disambiguated, with Hiding Behind Your Bangs replacing it as a proper trope (it now has to involve the hairstyle signifying secrecy, scheming or shyness). Hildegard has Peek A Bangs. Does she still qualify for Hiding Behind Your Bangs? If not, are there other tropes she can take or can she be removed?
Alright, I changed her trope to Hiding Behind Your Bangs.
Edited by Excessive-Menace on May 30th 2023 at 5:50:14 AM
SING TO ME, LEND ME THE SONG OF BLASPHEMYWell, the trope page says she's hiding a special eye, so I think she still fits.
TV Tropes Pantheon Group Members DatabaseNew character proposal. This is going to be hard because the character has made very few appearances, but I think I could make this work:
King of the Seals for Sluggish Seal
The King of the Seals is an unusually large and rotund seal living on the shores of Twistwood. He likes to try to help the Twistwood denizens with their problems, but it seems like he will only help if he can do so with his magic wand. He never once moves from the rock that he sits on.
Edited by DrNoPuma on May 30th 2023 at 9:58:17 AM
Very good kitty
Sounds cool
Edited by Excessive-Menace on May 30th 2023 at 8:00:05 AM
SING TO ME, LEND ME THE SONG OF BLASPHEMYInteresting. Here is my proposal
- Irwin, God of Being Dumber Than They Look: the resident Butt-Monkey and Abhorrent Admirer of Mandy. Appearance-wise he looks like a textbook Black and Nerdy character. He's certainly nerdy, and has the clothes and big thick sunglasses to prove it. In reality Irwin isn't that smart, only marginally smarter than the blatantly stupid Billy. He even tried cheating off of Mandy's answers on a test.
Also, I added some to Cinderace. What more should I add?
Cinderace, God of Fireballs (The Striker Pokémon, Aceburn)

- Hall: Fire and Heat (House of Nature)
- Intermediate God
- Symbol: A fireball enveloping a white-hot stone
- Alignment: True Neutral
- Ability: Libero
- Gender: Male
- Moveset: Pyro Ball, Court Change, Electro Ball, Acrobatics
- G-Max Move: G-Max Fireball
- Portfolio: Starter Mon, Playing with Fire, Uses Fireballs Like Soccer Balls, The Only Pokemon That Can Have Libero, And Learn Pyro Ball or Court Change, Fully-Dressed Cartoon Animal, I Know Madden Kombat, Apparently Its Soles Can Give Good Luck, White Rabbits, Hot-Blooded Beast Man
- Domains: Mons, Fireballs, Rabbits, Soccer, Sports
- Heralds: Scorbunny and Raboot (his pre-evolutions)
- Interested in: James Bond, Austin Powers
- Allies: Ash Ketchum, Incineroar, Hop, Alex the Lion, Arthur Pendragon (mainly his Monty Python incarnation), Bugs and Lola Bunny, Nao Midorikawa, Ronnie Raymond
- Partner: Tsubasu Ozora
- On good terms with: Blaze the Cat, Cream the Rabbit, Flame Princess
- On speaking terms with: Chairman Rose
- Rivals: Charizard, Greninja
- Enemies: Pokemon Hunter J, Rusty, Springtrap, General Woundwort, The Killer Rabbit of Caerbannog, Vargo Hoat, Yosemite Sam
- Opposes: Pyromaniacs
- Annoys: Elmer Fudd
- Annoyed by: Angel Bunny
- Respects: Bunnymund, Miyamoto Usagi
- Wary of: The Hall of Water and Moisture (unless he just used Acrobatics or Electro Ball)
- The region of Galar has three different starters to choose from, as is tradition. The Fire-type is a rabbit quick on their feet and full of boundless energy called Scorbunny. As it grows and develops it will evolve to Raboot, then finally Cinderace, the Striker Pokémon. The only user of Pyro Ball, and later on Court Change, Cinderace is capable of creating fireballs by getting a little rock and covering it with flame. They then kick the fireball around like some sort of soccer ball. Cinderace is one of a handful of Pokémon with the ability to Gigantamax, where it rides atop a massive fireball. Its Hidden Ability is a signature one; Libero, which lets it change types to the move it just used. Gigantamax Cinderace is said to boast the greatest leg strength of any Pokémon.
- Following his community service, Chairman Rose proposed that if any Galar starter should ascend, Cinderace is the best bet as it is the most sports-focused of the three evolved starters. Cinderace caused a little bit of trouble at first by using an illegal soccer ball (as in, it was on fire) in the House of Sports but he quickly learned his lesson. The Cinderace in the Trope Pantheon is notable for possessing its signature Hidden Ability, so it has less to fear from the Hall of Water and Moisture via Electro Ball. Greninja bemoanded this by calling Cinderace a rip-off; its Libero is just a carbon copy of hisnote Protean! Add in their opposing types and you have the making for a rivalry.
- Cinderace felt Rose's endorsement sort of awkward because he caused some trouble for native Galar by prematurely awakening Eternatus. He is closer to Hop since depending on the player's decision, he also has a Cinderace. And Ash, who besides generally being nice to Pokémon has a good friend with the Scorbunny line. Unsurprisingly Hunter J and Rusty were added as enemies by default, but at this point people have stopped counting. Vargo Hoat is another enemy of Cinderace's, and not just because he is an Ax-Crazy Sadist and leader of a group of all-around awful people; the Crippler wants to cut off his rabbit foot notnote out of cruelty, but because he heard from a good source a Cinderace's soles give good luck.
- Upon his ascension Cinderace would be the third Fire type starter, after Charizard and Incineroar. The Striker Pokémon has a settle to score with Charizard because he feels he steals the spotlight from him. He's a lot more cool with Incineroar though; Incineroar is more into "showmanship" as a Heel wrestler. Incineroar tried and failed to get the rabbit into Pokkén Tournament, so instead he's trying to make a Pokémon sports team for Cinderace. To start with, Cinderace needed to look for a partner if he was going to play for the big leagues. And who else was a better soccer partner than the Field Samurai himself; Tsubasu Ozora? As a whole he's pretty easy going and was waiting for the right Pokémon, Digimon or other 'mon to answer the call for a partner of his own. Someone Cinderace considered but who missed the call for a partner was Nao of the Smile Pretty Cures, however, as she's skilled soccer player who uses her skills in her attacks. She's welcome to practice with the rabbit.
- Rather Hot-Blooded, but this has more to do with his passion for athleticism than being all that crazy about fire. Many a pyromaniac thinks his take on soccer should become the mainstream version, which embarrasses Cinderace. The Pyro is an exception to that interest; They perceive his fireballs as regular footballs. He prefers to use fire responsibly, which is one of the reasons he's fond of Blaze the Cat and Flame Princess; despite their pyromancy they are level-headed...well, FP was a pyromaniac but she grew out of it. Occasionally they'll compete in some athletic sports with Cinderace, but it's not something they make a habit of doing; Cinderace's showboating can be off-putting at times. Fellow rabbit Cream hopes that he can grow out of it because she wants his and Blaze's relationship to improve. He's got more of a relationship with Ronnie Raymond as the half of Firestorm is an American Football player.
- At one point Cinderace got a bit too showboaty and said he could easily beat Bugs and Lola Bunny in soccer, thinking they may know their basketball, but they don't know footy. Through trickery the two humiliated him in the field, but Cinderace was a Graceful Loser since he realized he was being a jerk about it. Afterwards he expressed interest in learning more about other sports like basketball; he's called Cinderace after all, and feels he owes it to himself and Tsubasu Ozora to live up to that. Bugs decided to take the opportunity, but first he wanted Cinderace to use his kicking abilities and fireballs to troll Elmer Fudd and Yosemite Sam to prove he can work with one of the Looney Tunes. Cinderace kind of feels bad about Elmer Fudd, but has no problems messing with a Jerkass like Yosemite Sam, who swears he's going to have some spicy rabbit stew after all's said and done.
- The Galar starter has made an enemy of the Killer Rabbit as he finds the foul beast's actions contrasted to its cute appearance rather disturbing. He wants to personally apologize to King Arthur for the vile actions of another White Bunny, and this ultimately led to him allying with his and the Knights of the Round Circle's Monty Python incarnation in a quest to prove himself. For Cinderace, this is to stop the meaner rabbits from causing trouble. While he gets why General Woundwort would dislike humanity, he still finds him and his actions unsettling. And of course there's Springtrap, who is more "horrifying robotic zombie rabbit" than just "evil rabbit". Since fire is one of the animatronics' weaknesses, he's careful not to get too close to the Pokémon.
- Some have noted that with the above, they all share something in common; they are either British or from British media (except maybe Afton, but he has a British accent so it's likely). Galar is the Pokémon equivalent of the United Kingdom, so the Striker Pokémon might be motivated by some sense of familiarity. Wanting to seek out familiar deities is why he's a fan of James Bond and Austin Powers movies. One of the other Galar starters, Inteleon, is clearly influenced by the former, so Cinderace was hoping to get an autograph from the two. They appreciate the attention but otherwise are neutral on him. Cinderace personally respects Bunnymund and Miyamoto for being heroic and strong rabbits.
- Some believe that Cinderace would fit right in Zootopia. The Striker Pokémon prefers his native region, but will sometimes go there to play as part of the Opposing Sports Team. Incineroar suggested it, saying "kids like a good antagonist; you should try the Heel role for once". Unfortunately for Cinderace wasn't able to get Judy Hopps to fight against him because she's not a soccer play. Fortunately he was rather ignorant to the whole "prey and predator" Fantastic Racism and didn't listen to any of the BS propaganda Bellweather tried to push. After some time there he went to New York, mistaking it for Unova, since he had a soccer/football gig there. The rabbit quickly hit it off with Alex the Lion, as they're both showboaty performer animals.
Edited by RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 on May 31st 2023 at 3:50:23 AM
Cinderace could probably be disturbed by General Woundworth, who is a very hyper violent rabbit with a predisposition for cruelty and dominance over other rabbits.
Got 2 new proposals and a rework to do:
New
- Galactic Imperial Army Zone, Unholy Organization of Planet Sacrifices
- Reasoning: The Zone are an army of aliens that sought to destroy 1000 life-filled planets so their leader, Empress Meadow, would absorb their "Death Energy" (as in the essence of death released by the casualties of each planet) and become a goddess. By the time of the series they appear in they have destroyed 999 and their goal through the narrative is finishing the job on Earth, with all their schemes based around "sacrificing" Earth for Meadow. And each planet's survivor(s) who appear in various episodes provide the bulk for the worldbuilding, plot and signify the importance of stopping the Zone from succeeding with their recountings of how the Zone destryed their homeworlds.
- Kid Cosmic and the Local Heroes, Gods of Name and Noun Titles
- Reasoning: Kid Cosmic is a series about a group of civilians-turned-superheroes called like the title of the show who fight against various alien threats to protect their hometown and the Universe. The show is styled like old-school comic books, with the show's title and every episode's own title having the "Name and Noun" format used a lot in the aforementioned older comic books, even the old comic books in-universe play a part in the show as they foreshadow and inspire various major events.
Rework
- Ash Ketchum, God of Merchandise-Driven Shows
- Reasoning: Ash was the main protagonist of the Pokémon the Series sub-franchise for over 25 years, despite numerous series almost showing a climatic end to his adventures, it took until 2023 after 26 years of the anime airing, for it to end as everytime beforehand the release of a new game made the producers tie in Ash and his friends to the next instalment; with only the massive overhauls of the ninth generation finally causing a change of protagonists and even then there has been some talks from the producers that Ash could come back due to how successful the anime seasons with Ash had been in their run.
- His profile is severely outdated, short and misses a lot of important characterization bits so it needs expanding on.
Edited by VengefulBale on May 31st 2023 at 9:51:33 AM
Prettiest Meta Knight Gijinka, ngl
The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps
Thank god I did this before the remake got announced.
Four
Now I’ll show you why they call me… “Revolver.”
Adamska, God of Gun Twirling (Adam, ADAM, Major Ocelot, Ocelot Commander, Revolver Ocelot, Shalashaska, A Rival living a lie, General Ivan, Liquid Ocelot, Crazy Ivan, Liquid's Doppelganger, Lynx, Mr. Chronic Backstabbing Disorder, Wild Bill Hickock, Santa Claus, Jack the Ripper, Interim Director Iriomote, Big Boss’s Father, John Carpenter)

- Lesser God (Intermediate God piloting Metal Gear RAY or with the latest electromagnetic technology or controlling Guns of the Patriots)
- Symbol: Colt Model 1873 Single Action Army Revolver (Revolver Ocelot). Outer Haven helm's Snake monument (Liquid Ocelot).
- Theme Songs: Ocelot Youth ~ Confrontation
Shalashaska
, Revolver Ocelot
(Original Arrangement
), Guns of the Patriots
, Infinite Loop
(shares with Solid Snakes fighting in their respective Metal Gears), Full Circle
(shares with Solid Snake for their final battle)
- Alignment: Neutral Evil as Ocelot. Chaotic Evil as Liquid Ocelot.
- Portfolio: Chronic Backstabbing Disorder, Revolvers Are Just Better, The Chessmaster, The Gunslinger, Double Reverse Quadruple Agent, Torture Technician, Old Soldier, Cool Old Guy, Cats Are Mean, Bizarre and Improbable Ballistics, The Man Behind the Man, In Love with Your Carnage, Straight Gay, Enigmatic Minion, Awesomeness by Analysis, Wild Card, Sadist, Dragon Ascendant
- Major Ocelot: The Gunfighter Wannabe, Honor Before Reason, Noble Demon, Stalker with a Crush
- Liquid Ocelot: Large Ham, Dark Is Evil, Psychopathic Manchild, Visionary Villain, Hijacked By Liquid
- Domain: Cunning, Betrayal, Firearms, Technique
- High Priest: Slinger the Ocelot
- Followers: Braham, Sean Lafferty, The Cowboy, Josey Wales, El Ray, Tobias Beckett, Chuck Conners, Ronon Dex, Manosuke Naitou, Gideon Wyeth, Eruca, Kusagari Kid, Rubi Malone, Zeke-the-Cyborg-Space-Cowboy
- Allies: Big Boss, Punished “Venom” Snake, Sniper Wolf, Drebin 893, Rize Tedeza, Hol Horse, Stan Lee, Rolento F. Schugerg, Kokichi Oma, David Xanatos, Ozymandias, Admiral Thrawne, Toffee of Septarsis, Elim Garak, Char Aznable, Lelouch vi Brittania, The Man with No Name, John Marsten, Nack the Weasel, Erron Black, Bedman, The Illuminati, Kane, Lü Bu, Starscream, Agent Carolina, Melkor, Oshawott
- Teeth-Clenched Teamwork: Gray Fox, Itachi Uchiha, Lain Iwakura
- Rivals: Cole Cassidy, Dillon, Diry Harry, Jude the Dude, Lucky Luke, Justice, Dr. Herman Carter, Natasha Romanoff/Black Widow
- Enemies: Skull Face, Big Brother, Sibyl System, Ryo Saeba, Barry Burton, The Friend, Eiki Shiki, Georgy Konstantinovich Zhukov, Vladimir Makarov, Nikita Dragovich, Stan Smith, Agent 47, Sam Fisher, James Bond, Ethan Matthew Hunt, Captain Alex, K-Sha, Lietenant Columbo, Wallmasters, Lord Fuse
- Former Allies: The Patriots, Colonel Volgin, Liquid Snake, Solidus Snake, Psycho Mantis
- Opposed by: Dimitri Petrenko, Gwangi
- Former Enemies: Meryl Silverburgh and Johnny Sasaki, Hal Emmeric, Raiden
- Interested in: Celestia Ludenberg, Madoka Kaname, Homura Akemi
- Confuses: Tangle the Lemur and Whisper the Wolf
- Worthy Opponent: Solid Snake
- Born on the beaches of Normandy as the Allies charged against the Axis defenses, the son of The Boss led a colorful life intertwined with several conspiracies that almost brought the world to ruin. Raised by the Soviet Philosophers, Ocelot would find himself defecting to the United States and being an informant for the CIA under the guise of a GRU operative. During FOX's Virtuous Mission, Ocelot fatefully met the future Big Boss, Naked Snake, and would be transfixed with the Legendary Soldier throughout the latter Operation Snake Eater. After recovering half a billion dollars for Zero, Ocelot would join Cipher as an informant for them after turning against the CIA. However, his loyalties remained with Big Boss as Ocelot help guard him when XOF's attack induced Big Boss into a coma, and aided Big Boss's escape upon reawakening. Ocelot dedicated the remaining years of his life to saving Big Boss from the Patriots' hands upon his defeat on Zanzibar Land. He would present himself as an ally to Liquid Snake, Solidus Snake, and the Patriots themselves all to one day have Big Boss see the sun once again. A dramatic step in his plan was brainwashing himself to believe he was Liquid Snake after grafting Liquid’s arm onto himself, where he would after lead Outer Haven, the largest company of Private Military Contractors assembled for the war economy. Liquid Ocelot sought to take control of the entire planet by eliminating the Patriots' hold on humanity. But Solid Snake and his allies defeated Liquid Ocelot once and for all, though Ocelot still won by freeing Big Boss, his idol, from his prison. It was a pretty good trick as one would say.
- Ocelot would finally have the fruits of his labor be seen in the Pantheon upon reuniting with Big Boss. Since he came to the Pantheon first, he was in a position to advocate for Big Boss coming to the Pantheon though wanted to accommodate Big Boss as best he could. The Pantheon courts denied Big Boss bringing so much with him even if Ocelot said others could share that precedent. He was in a verbal war to get Big Boss to the Pantheon, though was forced concessions as they did not allow Big Boss to bring back an entire army with him unless the entirety of Outer Heaven made a case for itself which wasn't happening. No heralds to bring, no followers to bring, they would have to build a new Outer Heaven from scratch. When Ocelot reunited with Big Boss, the latter was flattered by Ocelot's dedication to bringing him back and trying his hardest to roll the metaphorical red carpet for him. Ocelot replied that he does so because he probably is still in love with the legend more than anybody else.
Ocelot: Let's go bring that legend back to life, John.Ocelot goes up to Big Boss, and then suddenly kisses the Legendary Mercenary on the lips.Ocelot: I’m sorry but after all that time I spent in a facade, I needed that.Big Boss: I get it. I think...
- His role as a commander in the new Outer Heaven is managing the support team and the intelligence network, both being extremely effective departments thanks to Ocelot’s career. Ocelot is more than qualified to Outer Heaven on his own after running an army that was larger than the combined population of Canada and Mexico. In 2014, Canada's and Mexico's populations were 35.44 million and 118.8 million respectively. This means the Outer Heaven mother company had more than 154.24 million employees contributing to its cause. Ocelot would decline to be the Number Two as Ocelot knows Big Boss's charisma has a far greater reach than what Liquid Ocelot had even if his Outer Heaven has more members to it. Ocelot is content with working for Big Boss in the shadows, only coming out when it is to annihilate their enemy. For the second highest authority on Outer Heaven, Ocelot brought back Ahab, the one who took the mantle of Big Boss and was christened by Ocelot to become Venom Snake. If Big Boss cannot be there to be the symbol for their military nation, then Venom Snake will be that symbol until the true Big Boss comes back into the limelight. He finds it a bit shameful on his end that putting them side-by-side, it is difficult to differentiate the Big Bosses.
- On another note, the other commander of Outer Heaven is Gray Fox whom Ocelot both admires yet feels apprehension for. Gray Fox is indeed another loyal soldier to Big Boss who will throw his life for it when asked, though Ocelot still has not gotten over Gray Fox suddenly chopping his hand off. Despite how well it worked out for him for losing his arm and replacing it with Liquid's arm, there is no getting around that he still lost his right arm which he favored. Gray Fox is surprisingly apologetic for it, saying that Ocelot is allowed to cut off his arm if it meant they're on equal footing. Ocelot decided that punching Fox square in the robotic face with his newer arm was more cathartic. He already had to deal with a second cybernetic ninja at the Big Shell who tried chopping off his arm, so he wants to send a message his arm is not for chopping.
- His Liquid Ocelot persona is more known than his Shalashaska identity due to how widespread his Outer Heaven company was (despite its role as an owner for several mercenary companies not being that known). As a result, people still refer to Ocelot as Liquid even if the actual Liquid Snake is present. Not even his getting back to his gun-twirling, cowboy getup could stop this impression with a handful of people knowing who Ocelot truly is. The real Liquid Snake whom Ocelot propped up has found a new reason to despise his former comrade for this. Not only did Ocelot manipulate him under the order of his younger brother, but now has also taken over his identity. Ocelot would balk at such accusations, considering Liquid Snake really did possess him in the Manhatten Tanker and the Big Shell, where Liquid proceeded to try to find where the Patriots were. It took cutting off his right hand again and replacing it with another for Ocelot to gain control of his body... until he brainwashed himself to think he was Liquid Ocelot once more. Ocelot out of spite for Liquid Snake, still imposes the idea that Liquid was born the inferior clone no matter how much contrary evidence is offered. Ocelot also calls him Eli for kicks.
Ocelot: This is the result of going against me, perverting Big Boss’s dream. Your temper, your whininess, makes it clear why Les Effants Terribles gave you the recessive genes.
- When it comes to his relationship with his other former FOXHOUND members, he is much more cordial than he does with Liquid. Sniper Wolf and Raven would not care that the group was betrayed if it meant helping out the admirable Big Boss. Decoy Octopus would be pissed that their group was meant to fall though would let go of his anger if Ocelot offered a substantial acting job. The only one Ocelot will still be on bad terms would be Psycho Mantis, not just because Mantis was a pawn for XOF. Ocelot was always on edge with Mantis considering Mantis could read his mind to ruin his plans. Ocelot anticipated this and trained himself in psychic blockage like what Donald did.
- Solid Snake carries a strange relationship with Ocelot who was his most recurring foe up until their final battle. The last son of Big Boss versus the last son of The Boss, fighting atop the world. Much of Solid Snake's animosity for Ocelot is for his Liquid Ocelot persona, though it doesn’t mean he has gripes with the man himself. Ocelot did cause an arms race of Metal Gears, leading to the rise of the war economy. Even if it was to save his father, Ocelot had directly and indirectly killed a lot of people in the process. Ocelot does not share hostility towards Solid Snake, acknowledging that this Snake is the closest to succeeding Big Boss than any of his brothers. Although Ocelot would wish to fight Snake once more, the FOXDIE that Snake has is an issue even if Snake has treatment for it. Having a heart attack is unpleasant as Shalashaska could attest to.
Ocelot: FOX… DIE!Ocelot collapses in front of Solid Snake.Snake: Ocelot, I'm not going to be tricked again-Ocelot: THINK AGAIN! Sorry, but that won't work a fourth time!
- Regarding his relationship with the third of the sons of Big Boss, George Sears, it is much more cordial than what beef Liquid has with Ocelot. If he did not know that Ocelot being a spy for the Patriots was a thing, he would have cut the man down right there and then. When Solidus discovered Ocelot led the end of the Patriots, he was relieved that all his efforts against them were not in vain. Although Solidus still does not have goodwill with Ocelot for allowing his barely-conscious body to be skinned and amputated to rebuild Big Boss. Ocelot just says that he was busy being Liquid to have a say on that deal. He would have put more of both Solidus and Liquid in Big Boss even if it was something small as a better immunity system.
Big Boss: Wait, both of you had the same vampire working for you?Big Boss backs away from Ocelot out of concern.Ocelot: Well, he wasn’t called Vamp because of the blood-sucking and invincibility. He was named Vamp because he’s bisexual.
- Ocelot knew who his true parentage was, as even he would question why he was promoted to a major regardless of his young age. As Volgin and many connected to the Philosophers know, Ocelot is the son of Voyevoda and The Sorrow who was taken from them as a child by Philosopher agents shortly after being born. Ocelot could be said to be a progenitor of offspring with "soldier genes" like the sons of Big Boss. He would eventually discover his parentage at least before instilling Big Boss's persona on an unconscious Ahab, with the fact not bothering him that much at the present. He is incredibly courteous to his mother, however, regarding her highly even if she is on those wicked capitalist Americans' side in Outer Heaven's political war. Being his mother, the first quiet moment between him and Ocelot was her smacking him in the head for being such a nuisance to people after her death. Not that it was undeserved, of course.
- Ocelot may have been a founding Patriot, but he was not particularly keen on the One World Order that Zero wished to bring. It was Big Brother that came back to life, gripping its claws on the planet enough that the world accepted its fate of being oppressed by them. Though he may have kept contact with Zero after Big Boss left Cipher and helped hide Big Boss from XOF, Ocelot has no obligation to help Zero and his unilateralism. He wants to capture Zero so Outer Heaven can use Zero's endless resources to their advantage though the man himself is slippery. Not even Ocelot's powerful information network could find the man who seemingly vanished from the Pantheon. What Ocelot does know is where the Patriots but he has to find a way to destroy them without triggering a nuclear war. That requires Outer Heaven to be stronger first, which he already has experience in doing.
- Ocelot is a massive fan of spaghetti westerns and takes up pretty of mannerisms and apparel based on the Wild West. He is such a fan that as a major, he had his troupe take up the appearances of cowboys even though it was so much against Soviet uniform regulation. He knows that using revolvers may be less effective than using standard weapons that he knows how to use but dammit, he insists on showcasing his skills with the revolver. Not that he is a slouch, considering his twirling fended off an army of hornets. His dedication to the cowboy motif has earned his respect and ire over the cowboys of the Pantheon. There are those like the Man with No Name who would call Ocelot a man who embodies the spirit of the Wild West in the modern era. Then there are those like Dillon and Lucky Luke who consider Ocelot a menace thanks to his unpredictable tendency to draw some bad problems to their territories. Ocelot would not deny that his critics have a right to fear him.
- Hol Horse and Ocelot had a bit of a standoff after word got around Ocelot was such a good shot, he used a bullet to knock the gun out of Nack the Weasel's hand (just because Nack was talking badly about Slinger the Ocelot). Seeing as his Stand could home in on objects, Hol Horse was sure that he could win a contest of precision. It didn't work when he threw the bottle into the air and the sun's glare got on his eyes. Ocelot just took a glance at the bottle's trajectory, shooting the bullet at a metallic railing nearby that had the bullet ricochet to the falling bottle. After seeing that, Ocelot got Hol Horse's highest admiration.
- Not only is Ocelot considered one the greatest spymasters in the Pantheon, but Ocelot is also one of the most infamous torturers the Pantheon has seen yet. He was feared by the name of Shalashaska by the Mujihadin for that reason, him bringing out the most efficient torture methods to wring out information from people in a concise manner. What he especially likes to use is electrical equipment from rods to chairs as he loves frying a person from the inside. He now understands why Volgin enjoyed it. It got him in the crosshairs of Herman Carter who enjoys torturing people with electricity perhaps more than Ocelot does. Although Ocelot is the more efficient torturer because he knows a lot more techniques than Carter could do and could get creative with them. One time, he used a cheese grater and fed the fleshy flakes to his victim. Herman Carter was even sent a bottle of those flakes, not knowing what it was, and thought it was some odd ice cream topping.
- Ocelot does not have good opinions about Mother Russia, especially after the Soviet Union fell. It is not as if he had been a true patriot for his nation prior, though he at least thought the Soviet Union stood for something. He believes modern Russia does not stand for any ideals, turning into a nation of clingers to the past and bowering to whatever despots take the nation's reigns. He is not even willing to side with ultranationalist Russians as Ocelot believes that there is no saving Russia outside of complete societal upheaval. Soviets of the Pantheon were enraged when it was declassified that Ocelot had spied for the West throughout the Soviet Union's existence. A certain famous official of the Soviet Union, Georgy Zhukov, was more enraged than anyone that the KGB's premier torturer was an American dog (although Ocelot worked for a British man). To humiliate Ocelot, Zhukov invited him to an interview on live television where he intended to scrutinize all of Ocelot's actions against them. Though knowing what Zhukov planned for him, Ocelot went because he intended to humiliate Mother Russia for trying to get back at him on the national broadcast. He mentioned some shady things leaders in Nikita Khrushchev's regime witnessed (like maybe hanging out with young attractive girls too much), leading to Zhukov going on a cuss-filled tirade of denial on a national broadcast.
- Ocelot was so burned by the American Philosophers creating their war between the Pentagon and the CIA that he was set on retiring from his spy job if it were not for Zero conceding that Big Boss would join them. Ocelot assassinated the DCI of the time and framed his death as a suicide, something that the world would know once those files were declassified during the war economy. It is also known Ocelot assassinated the United States president, James Johnson, for speaking too much about the Patriots’ plans. CIA agent Stan Smith has sworn to avenge these authority figures and prevent Ocelot from doing more harm, though Ocelot would like to point out that the CIA was trying to prolong the Cold War at the time with their Metal Gears.
- When Cole Cassidy challenged Ocelot to a Dual Wielding pistols match, Ocelot could not refuse. The reason Cassidey asked for this is due to Ocelot's notorious reputation as a gunslinger with few peers. His skills with the revolver may be a bit rusty thanks to Liquid Ocelot using his fingers as an imaginary gun to shoot people with (it worked because of nanomachines), but that does not mean Ocelot will lose his touch in the heat of battle. Many bullets bounced across surfaces in their brief dual but in the end, Cassidy stood on top of Ocelot's shot body. But then as the match ended, Ocelot stood up from the floor with little injury and the round timer reset. Telling Cassidy to think again, Ocelot proceeded to point and laugh at his foe as he walked away backward, winning the match by knocking Cassidy by riddling him with equally as many bullets. Cassidy does not know how in the world Ocelot did that, though couldn't process it as unconsciousness took hold of him. Ocelot conceded that Cassidy is a more agile fighter than he is, maybe even better at the revolver too. Ocelot is willing to use every trick under the sun to succeed, something that Cassidy may not do. Plus, those cosmetics Cassidy won from lootboxes and battle passes gave him no tactical advantage whatsoever. Cassidy did have another way to secure victory.
REPORT PLAYER — REVOLVER OCELOT
- Melkor considers Ocelot an ally yet is also highly cautious around Ocelot. Though his loyalties go to Big Boss, Ocelot has been a military consultant for many groups. He might as well work with others after so many offers were made for his strategic prowess and business expertise. The most consistent person that Ocelot works with is Melkor who admits that he owes a lot to Ocelot for fixing many things for him, to the point Melkor has Ocelot in a high position to keep a close eye. Resource allocation, unit roles, morality, security, and even taxes are what Ocelot was able to cover for Melkor. Melkor also respects Ocelot for being quite frank with him even if it could be upsetting, such as shooting Melkor on his throne to demonstrate the poor security of the place. Despite valuing his skills, Melkor is aware of Ocelot’s backstabbing reputation is more notorious than Starscream’s. For this, Melkor generated millions of countermeasures against Ocelot as even one step could put whatever Melkor plans at risk. Not even his most suspicious of allies have those many contingencies, much less a slightly paranormal mortal.
- Rize Tedeza may not see Ocelot on the same pedestal as Big Boss, but she respects and looks up to him. The man may be intimidating to everybody for his methodology though she would probably not sing the same tune if she knew his relationship with her father. Many years ago, Rize's father served as an informant for Liquid Ocelot as his Outer Heaven grew. Not to say that her father was a member, just an extension of Ocelot's surveillance. When Ocelot found out about his daughter's association with Solid Snake, Ocelot targeted Outer Heaven advertisements in her area so that she would search Outer Heaven out. He does not bring Rize to Outer Heaven's hands to intimidate her father, but to one day have Rize take up her father's role. He whispered to her father's ear not to worry, as it was not like he would throw his daughter to the Diamond Dogs' dens.
- Many people want Ocelot dead for his crimes against the world. James Bond tried digging through his information network to find a weakness, though almost drowned in its deepness. San Fisher tried to track Ocelot's activities though Ocelot somehow alludes him. One notable person who tried going after Ocelot directly was Agent 47 who discovered Ocelot's name on a guest registry for an award show. Ocelot anticipated and prepared a decay in the form of Stan Lee]. Stan Lee dressed as him, going on stage to do what Ocelot was meant to do for the award show. 47 was confused by these events, but Ocelot managed to lure 47 to a quiet area and used a cigarette spray to knock him out. By the time 47 woke up, the show finished without a hitch hours ago and Ocelot escaped to live another day. As a final surprise, 47's belongings were left with a Time Bomb as a parting gift.
- Homura Akemi's dedication to Madoka Kaname has piqued Ocelot's interest, as he believes that he could shape Homura to be a deterrent against Pantheon authoritarianism. He noticed this sliding trend upon seeing the Friend's political popularity rise, despite it being clear that his policies are a farce. He is disappointed in the Pantheon citizenry for their inaction, though he is more disappointed with Eiki Shiki and her fellow lawmakers for not taking preemptive actions against threats to democracy. They come out of the woodwork to the keep Pantheon status quo balance, using boogeymen like the economy and officialdom against those they perceive to be nuisances to public order. Yet she refuses to go after the Friend because the Friend is respected by so many, just because he is in a position of perceived authority. Ocelot refuses to heed such a social hierarchy and resolves to have Homura upheave the Pantheon with her Reality Warper capabilities. He would use Madoka Kaname as the fire that starts a rebellion. He wants a world where the people to not hold back on their characters, something that the Patriots and all authoritative governing bodies do not allow in their rigid structure. Ocelot will not allow people to think two plus two equals five.
- His motivations were informed to Madoka by a package at the doorstep, containing a file detailing Ocelot's character and his history. It could have contained anthrax for all Madoka knew, so she knew someone wanted her to get the file for something. She suspected that either a Major Zero, the Patriots, the Friend, or even Eiki Shiki could have been the senders and kept themselves anonymous to throw off Ocelot. The Magical Girl had more to say about Ocelot's character than concern about his apparent plots to use her as she finds his public history fascinating after reading through it. Little does she know Ocelot sent the file to her. Better to make a more positive impression on Madoka Kaname than have his character painted negatively by another source.
Madoka: Wait, so how is he gay?Madoka reads the next line.Madoka: HE'S OBSESSED WITH SNAKE?!
- His motivations were informed to Madoka by a package at the doorstep, containing a file detailing Ocelot's character and his history. It could have contained anthrax for all Madoka knew, so she knew someone wanted her to get the file for something. She suspected that either a Major Zero, the Patriots, the Friend, or even Eiki Shiki could have been the senders and kept themselves anonymous to throw off Ocelot. The Magical Girl had more to say about Ocelot's character than concern about his apparent plots to use her as she finds his public history fascinating after reading through it. Little does she know Ocelot sent the file to her. Better to make a more positive impression on Madoka Kaname than have his character painted negatively by another source.
- There are many manipulators whom Ocelot is in contact with who have their own goals in mind. He does not care if Lelouch vi Britannia is bringing world peace, Thrawne building an army to take over the solar system, Ozymandias summoning a giant squid, Xanatos searching for immortality, Toffee draining magic, or even Char Aznable sending meteors to Earth. All that matters is that they do not interfere with his ambitious plans, which they do try their best to do. Not because they find Ocelot a staunch ally but because they do not want to provoke his informants who hide within their ranks. His spies may not even know they are spies yet, as Ocelot is an expert on manipulating memories. One young mastermind who caught Ocelot's eye was Kokichi Oma whose manipulation skills caught the eye of the gunslinger. The boy has shown to be a brilliant Manipulative Bastard, even if Ocelot would want Kokichi to raise the bar higher than even murder. Kokichi has held a jolly expression for being inducted but is terrified at how far Ocelot might go with it. Kokichi can't dick around if he finds himself arrested for disposal of evidence. Ocelot would have had Agent Carolina be his student though he finds that her fan girling over him negates the impersonal role this apprenticeship requires.
Big Boss: So you created your own phantom? I guess you’ll try having him shoot the same, torture the same, eat the same…Ocelot: I wouldn’t mind eat you.Big Boss: Huh?Ocelot: I-I mean… I wouldn’t mind having him eat with you!
- Ocelot was not going to pay mind to Celestia Ludenberg as Ocelot dislikes the French for reminding him of the Russian aristocracy. Ironically, Ocelot was born in France. But past all the makeup, he could tell the infamous Lolita gambler was not European at all and out of spite of her French emulation, Ocelot proposed to play Russian roulette with her to see if she could win every gamble. Ocelot showed her his brand of Russian roulette when he took out three guns and began juggling them in front of her. As the ultimate showcase of his gunspinning skills, every few seconds as he juggles Ocelot would aim a pistol at her and pull the trigger. If there was a bullet fired at her, then she would lose not only the game but her life. Ocelot juggled and repeatedly fired at Celestia for a full three minutes, with Celestia losing more color the longer it went on. Once those three minutes were up, Ocelot was left impressed by her luck. Though she had no control over this game he dared her, she never moved from where she stood despite her sweating fear-induced buckets. He left her alone, giving one of his revolvers as a keepsake. When Celestia looked into the cylinder, it had five bullets inside. Her face paled further, as the implication was fifteen out of eighteen times, she could have lost her bet.
- A certain Sea Otter Pokémon washed up at Mother Base and Ocelot decided to raise it for a bit. Since he raised a dog, raising a new creature would be a good change of pace for him. Upon learning that Oshawott is dexterous though, Ocelot wanted to essentially raise a copy of himself. He tried to teach Oshawott how the meow (which Ocelot is still proud of doing) and tried to have the Pokémon learn to gunspin. Needless to say, Ocelot's dream of making Revolver Oshawott did not come true and he simply released Oshawott back to where it belongs. He is happy that he got Oshawott to learn one thing from him.
Oshawott: Oshawatt? (Oshawatt...)Ocelot: Close enough. I hereby dub you Revolver...He proceeds to spin his gun for half a minute straight.Ocelot: … Oshawott.
- Considering that his interest in genomes was the lure that led him to join Cipher, Ocelot has still maintained an interest in cloning projects. Not that he wishes to make another Les Effant Terribles since Big Boss would want anything but that. He wants to stop the potential exploitation of Big Boss's DNA as the United States did with the genome soldiers. A particular entity that caught Ocelot's attention was Lord Fuse whose army is commanded by clones. Outer Heaven was hit by Fuse's infamous invasion and Big Boss had his combat knife taken to have his DNA stolen. Ocelot also had stolen his DNA through six bullets that Ocelot reloaded by hand, as his gloves were in the washer at the time. Fusion monsters stared as Ocelot took time to insert long silver bullets into the greasy chamber. He wants to make sure that the Fusions do not somehow find a way to integrate Big Boss’s soldier genes into them, as Ocelot barely handled three Big Bosses as it is.
- Lain would always say she is eternally grateful for Ocelot for eliminating the Patriots’ chokehold on The Internet that they implemented after the Big Shell Incident… but she hates his guts. She has to just go online to see the chaos Ocelot brings around to be more frustrated with her. He is simply too much to handle especially in a place of little social consequence. When Ocelot pestered her with a video, she channeled all discourse from social media to a foul-mouthed response that surprised even herself.
Ocelot: You don’t have to say no to fishing videos like that. I was also going to say that I found your address too, so I'm just going to dump it online now. Good night, my b-word.Lain: H-huh?
- As a result of his hijacking the Sons of the Patriots system, led to the crumbling of the war economy that caused a lengthy recession afterward. The Pantheon bore the brunt of the collapse, which led to many despising Ocelot being the primary instigator of its downfall. Ocelot says that if it weren't for the Patriots gaslighting everybody, then all people will agree that having the global market orbit around warfare is a bad idea. Firearms that are not tied to SOP have been rising in production units to the same levels as before that system's implementation, though some guns are now rarer than others.One of which is the revolver as Ocelot, law enforcement, and sporters keep stores out of stock. Barry Burton has been more than frustrated over this as he could not find a single revolver for himself after his last one jammed, hurrying to a store that held a revolver. Ocelot was also there, leading him and Burton to blows. Burton was about to go in the store to get it first as the honorable "me first" rules dictate but as Ocelot aimed a bullet at Burton...
Ryo Saeba: Sorry but is this the store where to buy a good revolver? Aw, dammit! They're at the counter already!Ocelot: G-good to know... Move me to a hospital...
- Ocelot has heard from the grapevine about the truth about Itachi Uchiha and decided to confront Itachi on a whim about his apparent sins. Itachi placed Ocelot under the Tsukoyomi there and then, but to Itachi's surprise, Ocelot broke out of his illusion when Ocelot's nanomachine-programmed arm automatically decked his face to break out of the trance. Ocelot informed Itachi of his death, and all the information he has accumulated will automatically be leaked onto the internet for everybody to see, including secrets that Itachi’s village would not want out. Ocelot is not blackmailing Itachi for anything, only wanting a relationship where Ocelot asks for a favor for Itachi, which can also work in reverse. To prove himself to the Uchiha, Ocelot gave a freebie by telling Itachi of a terrorist plot against his village. To Itachi's surprise, Ocelot was correct about the terrorist plot even though how Ocelot learned of such information was suspect to him. Itachi relies on Ocelot to give him reliable intelligence, even finding himself doing "favors" for Ocelot per their agreement. Secretly, Itachi is uncovering Ocelot's intelligence network, justifiably believing that it is a threat to international security.
- Kane may respect Ocelot greatly for being a similar brilliant man from the Soviet Union, although has questioned why Ocelot is so fixated on Big Boss when Ocelot, especially when possessing an army that surpassed all worldwide militaries. Ocelot could have easily overtaken the entire the military-industrial complex, so nothing is stopping him from surpassing Big Boss's ambitions. Ocelot simply laughed at Kane for not understanding what makes Big Boss so special. Big Boss is not a person, but a Living Legend on his own. If Big Boss is an angel cast down from heaven, then Ocelot is Adam who was tempted by the Snake. As long as there is a fire in John Doe’s eyes, then Ocelot has no doubts about following this man. Kane understands why Ocelot is so dedicated to Big Boss now, as he demanded that same faith from his followers.
Ocelot dramatically points finger-guns at the reader.
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Cassette Beasts Party Membersnote , Divine Form-Collecting Shapeshifters


- Hall of Shapeshifters
- Lesser gods
- Alignment: Neutral Good
- Symbol: An audiocassette
- Theme music: Wherever We Are Now
, Kayleigh's Theme
, Eugene's Theme
, Meredith's Theme
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- Portfolio: Collectors of Forms, Henshin Heroes, Reconstruction of the Mons genre, each partner has a Signature Mon and is a Required Party Member for their sub-plot, you can only have one partner active at a time (except during the final boss battle), can fuse while in their monster forms when their Relationship Values are high enough, their Transformation Trinkets are cassette tapes (but it turns out these are just conduits, and their ability to transform comes from within)
- Player: Hello, [Insert Name Here], Character Customization, eventually shows the ropes to the next human to arrive in New Wirral, symbiotically possessed by the Archangel Morgante.
- Kayleigh: P.O.V. Boy, Poster Girl, Cult Defector, her Signature Mon is Sirenade
- Eugene: Arch-Enemy to the Landkeepers, Vigilante Man, Chronic Hero Syndrome, Jumped at the Call, it takes a long time to complete his storyline and thus fuse with him, but his Signature Mon Clocksley is a powerful attacker once it's remastered into Robindam.
- Felix: An artist who became disillusioned with his job, considers Kuneko his Old Shame, his Signature Mon is Brushroom
- Meredith: Deadpan Snarker, is willing to fight an Archangel just to find a music record only to discover it's different from the version in her universe, her Signature Mon is Kittelly
- Viola: From further in the past than the other party members, Public Domain Character, her Signature Mon is Spirouette
- Barkley: Team Pet, Nearly Normal Animal, glides using a balloon, his Signature Mon is Pombomb's Ice-type bootleg
- Domains: Shape-shifting, being stranded, retro aesthetics
- Allies: The Animorphs, Tom Berenson, Ben Tennyson
- Barkley: Missile
- Commonality Connection: Naofumi Itawani, the Three Heroes
- Enemies: Soundwave
- Interested in: All Mons (the Pokémon, the Digimon, Platypet, the Spectral Familiars, etc.)
- Superior: William Shakespeare (Viola only)
- New Wirral is a Place Beyond Time where people and things from various universes keep ending up. Unfortunately, it's also inhabited by extremely dangerous monsters and even more dangerous Angelic Abominations. A few decades ago, an entire mall appeared in New Wirral, bringing with it a treasure trove of cassette tapes and walkmans. Some humans figured out that they could record the monsters' essences on the cassettes, play them back, and transform into them.
- The player character is the latest arrival to New Wirral. They have no canonical name, appearance, or gender. Kayleigh finds them on the beach outside Harbourtown, and teaches them how to transform. Shortly afterwards, the two of them encounter the wounded Archangel Morgante, who possesses the player and gives them advice on how to escape the island.
- Kayleigh is an enthusiastic guitarist with a dark past. She used to be the second-in-command of a cult that worshipped the Archangel Mourningstar, but left because she realised how horrible it was, and never looked back until the player arrived. In her home world, he played the guitar as a hobby, and the player encouraged her to write a love song. Her Sirenade transformation is an Air-type humanoid with speakers for wings that sings into the microphone on its tail.
- Eugene is from a post-capitalist future, and dedicates his life to fighting the vampire-like Landkeepers who want to introduce money to New Wirral. He thinks he didn't do good enough back home, and the Archangel Mammon asks him if it's the only way he can cope with being stranded. His Clocksley transformation is a Plastic-type clockwork toy that specialises in ranged attacks.
- Felix is a zoetrope artist who became disillusioned with his job. He was teleported into New Wirral with his entire apartment — and Kuneko, a character he created as a teenager, came to life. Being a winged, half-angel, half-demon Cat Girl with the powers of the four classical elements, Felix is embarrassed by her existence at first, but eventually reconciles that everyone has to start somewhere. His Brushroom transformation is a Plant-type Mushroom Man who wields a paintbrush as a weapon.
- Meredith is a huge fan of 80s pop culture, such as its music and fantasy novels. She accompanies the player through Falldown Mall just to find a record containing a song she likes... only to discover that it's from an alternate universe, so it's different to the version she remembers. She's disappointed, but later becomes fascinated by how media could vary between universes. Her Kittelly transformation is an Electric-type, anthropomorphic cat with a television for a head.
- Viola is a woman from centuries in the past, before electricity and cinnamon rolls were invented. She's looking for her brother Sebastian... and is shocked when the Archangel Robin Goodfellow reveals she's a character from Twelfth Night, and won't find him until the author says so. (It was awkward, to say the least, when she discovered that William Shakespeare was in the Pantheon.) She resolves that while her life may be a story in other worlds, it's still real to her. Her Spirouette transformation is a Water-type ballerina mollusc.
- Barkley is a Pomeranian's looking for his owner on Mt. Wirral. It turns out his owner was killed by Averevoir, a giant bird monster, so he decides to stay with the player and even follows them back to their homeworld at the end. He may seem like an ordinary dog, but he can transform using the cassette tapes as well. His Pombomb transformation is also a Pomeranian; usually it's a Fire-type, but he comes with a rare Ice-type variant, known as a bootleg.
- A while after they saved the multiverse, the party suddenly found themselves reunited in the same place — specifically, the Court of the Gods. Like New Wirral, it's a nexus point between various universes, but unlike New Wirral, people can come and go as they please. After the party had a group hug, the gods explained that they were chosen to represent the Collector of Forms trope, and will share the position because it felt unfair to ascend just one. Since the partners hang out at the Gramophone Café when not adventuring, a replica of it serves as their temple in the Pantheon.
- When the party ascended, the only tapes they had on them were their respective Signature Mons except the player, who has all the tapes that gave them an Ability Required to Proceed — a Dominoth for gliding, a Bulletino for dashing, a Boltam for electromagnetism, a Diveal for swimming, and a Jumpkin for transforming into a wall-scaling vine ball. Annoyingly, their tapes were all reverted to their lowest stages. They're all interested in seeing if they can record the Pantheon's various other Mons.
- Naturally, they get along with the Pantheon's other form-collectors. Viola finds common ground with two of the Animorphs: she shares Ax's fascination with late 20th/early 21st century human inventions, especially cinnamon rolls; and like Jake, her attempt to rescue her brother ended in tragedy. She was happy to learn that Jake finally got to reunite with his brother in the Pantheon, who's also a shape-shifter. All of the Animorphs (and Tom) like to pet Barkley, especially Jake and Tom, who owned a dog; and Cassie, who's good with animals. They're also interested in learning about the monsters of New Wirral, but can't acquire the recordings because they're DNA-less imitations of the real deals. For the same reason, Ben Tennyson's Omnitrix can't scan the recorded monsters, but he still thinks the Cassette Beasts party are awesome.
- They also find common ground with Naofumi Iwatani and the Three Heroes. Each of them originally came from different universes, but were summoned to the same world — only instead of being stranded, they were chosen to save it. However, they're uncomfortable with the fact that Naofumi owns slaves, even if he is a Sympathetic Slave Owner, and they don't like what they've heard about the other three's recklessness.
- Barkley gets along with Missile for a far simpler reason: they're both Pomeranians with extraordinary powers. Barkley wants to teach Missile how to transform using cassette tapes, while Missile wants to teach Barkley how to use Swap Teleportation. The former went a lot better than the latter.
- Meredith was confused to see a cassette tape lying around in their temple. It didn't look like any of the ones her friends used, and wasn't labelled with any stickers. Wondering if it contained music or a monster, she picked it up and was about to put it in her cassette player... when it suddenly transformed into a human-sized robot. Without a moment of hesitation, she transformed into Kittelly and fought it off. The group later learned that it was one of Soundwave's spies; they don't like the sound of a Humongous Mecha who's undyingly loyal to his war-mongering master, so they decided to train against each other while fused to prepare for fighting bigger foes.
Edited by NitroIndigo on May 31st 2023 at 8:50:58 PM
Nicol Bolas wants to conquer all planes of existence.
EDIT: Adding to what Migami said, Kang is in Time Travelling and Galeem and Darkhon are in Order and Chaos, just in case you don't know where they are.
Edited by Excessive-Menace on May 31st 2023 at 1:37:18 AM
SING TO ME, LEND ME THE SONG OF BLASPHEMY
The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps
We have Kang. Not the squid from the Simpsons. Also, those two balls that killed Super Smash bros.
Nobody is prepared for Ocelot in the remake.

Edited by M1gamiTensei on May 31st 2023 at 1:30:29 AM
Pantheon server for all who click here. Lost too much money and time, this coaster ain’t stopping.@RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 - Cinderace
- I think the only bunny I can think of who can rival Cinderace are The Rabbids. For reference see the minigame Bunnies can't Play soccer
and their appearance in Academy of Champions: Soccer
where they are one of the playable characters along with Rayman and a bunch of other ubisoft deities
.
@NitroIndigo - Cassette Beasts Party Members
- I know that you already wrote a Ben 10 idea, so how about some more. Azmuth, the creator of the Omnitrix, might be curious in the cassettes the group is using. He originally invented the Omnitrix so the various aliens from other worlds would understand each other. He became cynical because people like Vilgax wanted to use it for war, but Azmuth got better later on. The group would need to be weary of Vilgax considering he's a Galactic Conqueror with an interest in the Omnitrix. As such, he is likely to have interest in the cassettes too, to which Ben would help them defense against him should he come after them.
@fasoman1996 - Pyrocynical
- Joel has collabed with Pyro
before (tho that was a long time ago) and based on this video and his references to him
, he knows who Vinny is.
- His former avatar is a drawing of Foxy the Pirate.
- Pyro tried to make a rivaly between his fanbase and PewDiePie's fanbase by calling his fanbase "Bruh Army" in reference to the Bro Army. He eventually met PewDiePie irl
, where he was kinda awestuck when he saw him.
- Important distinction that he doesn't just bully all kids, he just roasts the ones he finds cringeworthy. Personally, I think he could probably make a video about how cringeworthy Princess Morbucks or the Reagan siblings are.
- As a Bully Hunter, Jimmy Hopkins may not like him.
- He's mentioned that he's fond of Dark Souls as he makes many references to that game.
Edited by lawliet-saw-whet on May 31st 2023 at 6:45:39 PM
“I'm willing to admit that I may not always be right, but I am never wrong.” ― Samuel GoldwynFirst draft for Rudolf Ulbricht von Sturmgeist's rework and Manon Batiste. Will be working on in-Pantheon lore and interactions shortly for the former, while the latter is still a huge WIP.
Hauptsturmführer Baron Rudolf Ulbricht von Sturmgeist, God of Aristocratic Nazis

- Lesser God
- Symbol: His Algemeine-SS uniform, and a StG44 assault rifle
- Themes: Sturmgeist's Armored Train
and Escaping Gotha
- Alignment: Lawful Evil
- Domains: Nazis, Aristocrats, Secret Weapons Projects
- Portfolio: A German Baron, and a Hauptsturmfuhrer in the Waffen-SS, who uses his wealth to fund advanced weapons projects, A member of the German aristocracy, and very much an unrepentant Nazi, A high-ranking Waffen-SS officer who can give the likes of Jimmy Patterson a good fight, A Nazi fanatic, and not an inch of hair on his head, Uses the Sturmgewehr 44 assault rifle as his primary weapon, Wears a Waffen-SS officer's cap initially, before losing it when Patterson attacks his train, Spends most of his time fleeing from Patterson, only to finally prove himself to be a tough adversary upon being cornered by him, Dies guns blazing to Patterson, Noticeably old-looking, and is a Nazi, Being the final threat to Patterson before he can accomplish his mission, Fights alongside several dozen Luftwaffe and Waffen-SS personnel, His name translating to "Storm Ghost", Responsible for funding wonderweapons projects like the Ho.IX, Has "Von" in his name, and is a pretty dark example
- Allies:
- Nazi Germany: Waffen Infantry, Waffen Officers, Waffen Senior Troopers, Waffen Storm Leaders, and Nazi Storm Elites, Heer Infanterie, 100th Panzer Battalion, Schutzvollstrecker, General Franz Vahlen, General Heinz Bohm, Valkyrie Jager, Operation "Kraken", Johann Schmidt, Wilhelm "Deathshead" Strasse, Arnold Ernst Toht, Nemesis, Major Erwin Konig
- Other: HYDRA, Lt. Col. Arnold Berkman, Sophie, Dr. Rene Belloq, The Four Libertines, The Tediz, Adenoid Hynkel, Milleneum
- Enemies:
- Allied Forces: Lt. Jimmy Patterson, Lt. Mike Powell, Sgt. Jack Barnes, Cpl. Boyd Travers, SSgt. Matthew Baker and SSgt. Joseph Hartsock, Pfc. Gary Jasper and Pfc. Timothy Connor, Sgt. Franklin Paddock, Lt. Randall and Sgt. Bill Taylor, Sgt. John Davis and Tank Commander David Welsh, Pvt. Robert Zussman, The Battlehawks, Easy Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th PIR, Major Winters and Captain Speirs, Captain Herbert Sobel, Charlie Company, 2nd Ranger Battalion, The Crew of Fury, President Franklin D. Roosevelt, The Basterds
- Others: Steve Rogers, James Buchanan Barnes, Margaret Carter, Dr. Abraham Erskine, Dr. Henry Walton Jones, Jr., Izetta, Archduchess Ortfine Fredericka von Eylstadt, William J. Blazkowicz, Vasily Zaytsev, Vasili Ivanovich Koslov, Viktor Reznov, Dimitri Petrenko, Georgy Zhukov
- A Baron of the German nobility, and a Hauptsturmfuhrer (equivalent to the rank of Captain) in the Waffen-SS, Rudolf Ulbricht von Sturmgeist was responsible for personally funding and supervising the development of various Secret Weapon projects in the German Armed Forces. He was also notably part of Heinrich Himmler's inner circle, which, in addition to his vast amount of wealth, made him a very important figure within both the Waffen-SS and the Nazi High Command. In addition, he was also tasked with conducting inspection tours of various weapons production facilities both in Germany and within the Occupied Territories, which included projects intended for the Kriegsmarine and Luftwaffe.
- The most recent and most prominent of these projects was the German Luftwaffe's latest fighter-bomber design: the Horten Ho.IX. This brand-new fighter-bomber design, part of Hermann Goring's so-called "3X1000" Project, used a then-revolutionary concept known as Flying Wing technology, and mended it with their latest jet engines. The end result was a fighter that came remarkably close to the Program's high standards, able to fly at close to 1000 km/h, with a range greater than 1000 km, and able to carry a 1000kg payload of bombs.
- Lt. Jimmy Patterson's first encounter with the Hauptsturmfuhrer would take place in August 1944, when the latter was inspecting the Lorient shipyard and U-boat pens. However, he wouldn't attract the attention of the OSS until September of that same year. Following the successful rescue of a Dutch Resistance operative named Gerritt, who had managed to snatch top secret German intelligence detailing the Ho.IX's existence and technical specifications, the threat that this aircraft posed was realized. The Horten could easily outperform even the latest and fastest Allied fighters, and could easily intercept bomber formations and shoot them down. Patterson was thus ordered to stop the project for good, which included him going after and killing von Sturmgeist.
- After helping American and British Airborne forces accomplish their objectives at Nijmegen and Arnhem, Patterson, with the help of Dutch Resistance and OSS contacts, was smuggled into Emmerich, Germany. There, he would attempt to assassinate Sturmgeist while also attempting to board his personal armored train, and arrive at the Gotha facility where the Ho.IX prototype was being kept and tested. Despite getting his cover blown, Emmerich itself being subject to an ongoing Allied bombing raid, and German troops hampering his advance to the platform where Sturmgeist's train was, Patterson was able to jump onto one of the flatbed cars at the rear of the train.
- From there, as the train left Emmerich Station, a series of firefights broke out between Patterson, the German security detail and crew members onboard Sturmgeist's train, and a neighboring German armored train accompanying the latter. While Patterson was able to eliminate any opposition standing in his way, he was unable to kill Sturmgeist, who escaped by detaching the rest of the train from the locomotive and escaped onboard the latter. Fortunately for Patterson and unfortunately for Sturmgeist, the train had been detached at Friedrichroda, an industrial town not too far from the Gotha facility, and where much of the latter's fuel reserves were kept. The OSS agent simply destroyed the precious German fuel reserves, and found an alternate transport method to get to Gotha.
- Sturmgeist, having successfully arrived at Gotha, was ordered by German High Command to defend the facility, and especially the Ho.IX, at any cost, until they could either stop Patterson or get the prototype to a safer location. It would be here that he would make his Last Villain Stand. Despite the Hauptsturmfuhrer alerting the entire facility of an upcoming attack, Patterson was able to successfully infiltrate Gotha. From there, the Lieutenant would acquire American weapons thanks to a scientist sympathetic to the Allies, fight his way through the facility's defenders, steal the Ho.IX's plans, and call in Allied bombers to pound the facility into oblivion.
- In one last attempt to stop Patterson, Sturmgeist sent dozens of Waffen-SS soldiers and Luftwaffe ground crewmen to kill him, only for Patterson to singlehandedly kill them all. Already backed into a corner between Patterson and the Allied bombs outside, Sturmgeist decided enough was enough, and would fight Patterson personally alongside the last of his men. While proving to be a challenge to the OSS agent, Sturmgeist was ultimately killed in action by Patterson, with the latter stealing the Ho.IX just as the Gotha facility was being bombed into oblivion.
- Despite his death, failure to kill Jimmy Patterson, letting the Ho.IX prototype get stolen, and getting the Gotha facility destroyed, this would not be the last time that Rudolf Ulbricht von Sturmgeist would be seen nor encountered by the Allies. In his quest to conquer the Pantheon under the Nazi banner, Johann Schmidt, head of the Nazi Science Division HYDRA, and one of Hitler's most dangerous minions, has been searching alternate worlds for fellow Nazi Germans or their equivalents. Specifically, he was looking for those who were sympathetic to his ideals, and would also prove useful to him by helping reinforce the Nazi presence in the Pantheon. Sturmgeist, just so happened to perfectly fit the bill. He was already a dedicated Nazi to begin with, had a massive pool of funds thanks to his aristocratic heritage, and personally oversaw wonderweapons production when Germany was backed into a corner. With a track record like this, and support from other high-ranking Nazis like Wilhelm "Deathshead" Strasse, it was decided to resurrect and ascend Rudolf Ulbricht von Sturmgeist as one of their subordinates.
Manon Batiste, Goddess Of Being Trapped Behind Enemy Lines (Manon Du Champs)

- Demigoddess
- Symbol: Her Legion of Honour, and the locket of her deceased brother Jacques
- Theme: May 10th, 1940
- Alignment: Lawful Good
- Portfolio: All of her missions taking place deep within enemy-occupied territory, A female French Resistance fighter and OSS agent, Goes from a supporting character to the main character of her own story, Goes from an ordinary Parisian to one of the Axis Forces' biggest headaches, A high-ranking member of the French Resistance, Serving as the mission briefer for OSS agents in the field, Leader of her respective French Resistance cell, Keeps her deceased brother's locket in order to honor his memory, Forced to lead her Resistance cell following her brother's death
- Domains: Resistance Fighters, Occupied Territories, Mission Controllers
- Allies:
- Enemies:
- Axis Powers:
- Others:
Sorry to tell you, but someone's already reserved him.
Edited by Rmpdc on May 31st 2023 at 9:06:13 PM
"We are gonna sit here and take it! You hear me!? We're gonna take it!"Idea for Peppino:
Rambunctious Italian in Nationalities (if not taken already) or Follower of Wario
His restaurant is also in House of Food
Du-Du-Wa-Do-It, Arena Katsudou











Also, another page header!!!
Edited by PuzzarianIdeal on May 30th 2023 at 7:38:22 AM