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    Rules 
Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:
  • When writing a profile, take note of the following:
    • Gods cannot be followers or high priests for obvious reasons. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
    • No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
      • You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
  • When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
    • When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
    • You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
      • For new and reworked deities, 3 [tup] means the profile will have a one week waiting period.
      • For new and reworked deities, 4 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 5 [tup] is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
      • Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
    • For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions, the following rules apply:
      • For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 [tup] is a 3 day waiting period.
      • 4 [tup] is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
    • Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice in a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be a single flavour text.
    • The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like look like Character Shilling.
    • Tropers new to the Pantheon are barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles.
    • Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
    • Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
    • Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
      • On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others because no one is responding to their idea.
  • When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
    • Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to add in a main Characters page that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, inform the forum and use the cutlist. This also goes to the Trivia page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Good and Evil Colors.
    • Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment ALSO applies here. Do not bring things that would incite fights, even if it is what is currently the hot topic and might be 'urgent'. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight at each other, so don't suggest things that go to that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
    • To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
    • Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.

    Instructions and Tips 
Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:

  • Preparing to write:
    • First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
    • If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
    • Please be sure to consult others in the discussion about what you want to work before making the profile. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable.
      • In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user.
    • If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the aformentioned creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters.
  • When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
    • All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
    • The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
    • A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
    • If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in other House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity, with the sole exceptions being those at the Main House to highlight those characters’ importance to the Pantheon’s lore.
    • For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part their series’ official soundtracks from media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters’ appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
    • For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlights a character’s behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character, unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute to the original artist. Due to the website’s dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too much bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, put the compressed image to other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikias to look for better images, as even wikias for the series might not contain good official images.
    • Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that makes sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
  • Pantheon Content:
    • Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
      • As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entire from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
    • Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well advised not to abuse them. The only house that a tropeless profile are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of a food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
    • For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
  • For Profile Standards:
    • Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
    • Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
      • Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
      • On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
    • Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
      • Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
    • Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
      • A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
      • Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.

    Divine Ranking System 
  • Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warpers capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
  • Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warpers and that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
  • Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low level Reality Warpers capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
  • Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
  • Demigods: Basically the Badass Normals of the pantheon, making up for their lack of abilities with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
  • Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.

    Templates 
Template for adding a new deity:

God X, God/dess of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on representation of power mentioned above.
  • Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
  • Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
  • Alignment: Good, evil, neutral etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here, the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignment to characters that don't have alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
  • For Pokémon deities only:
    • Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
    • Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
    • Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
  • Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
  • Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
  • High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
  • Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
  • Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
    • Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
    • Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
    • Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either on their pespective or yours.
    • Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
    • Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
    • Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
    • Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
    • Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly opposes or is opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects") terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
    • Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
    • Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
  • Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part the order is irrelevant:
    • The Ascension Text: This the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
    • The Bio: A brief synopsis on the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.

Template for Dominions profiles:

Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
  • Domains: Things that the place has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.

Template for Treasure profiles:

The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

  • An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
  • Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
  • Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
  • Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
  • Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
  • Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
  • Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
  • Domains: Things that the item has links to.
  • Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
  • Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
  • Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
  • And some more trivia/facts.
  • And a couple of more.
    • Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.

Edited by Willbyr on May 24th 2021 at 7:52:09 AM

lawliet-saw-whet Resident Trope Lurker from Your Head, In Your Head, Zombie, Zombie Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
Resident Trope Lurker
#193326: Sep 26th 2022 at 4:19:14 PM

"It's bucket time!"


I've also changed my mind about an offer about reworking The Stanley Parable characters.

  • The Narrator, God of Strange Narrations - As the Narrator of The Stanley Parable, he narrates Stanley's actions from Stanley's supposed perspective. He can help you escape the office by following his story, berates you for going Off the Rails, or goes along and commentates whichever weird event Stanley runs into. He's a self-aware Narrator characterized by his British Stuffiness and Deadpan Snark
    • Reason for Rework: Several underdeveloped flavor text and missing information from the Updated Re-release, which gives him a more sympathetic characterization and more involvement on major sections of the new stuff in the game
  • Stanley, Avatar of Action Commands - As the Protagonist of The Stanley Parable, his "day job is pushing whatever buttons on the keyboard his computer tells him to, and he loves it." He is a metaphor for the player inputting commands in a video game to do anything, one of his endings even highlights this where the player is forced to input the buttons that appear like he does. His ideal heaven is also a room full of buttons.
    • Reason for Rework: Several underdeveloped flavor text and is missing information from the Updated Re-release, he's also given a bit more stuff there plus I think I can add some stuff from additional endings as well as check if there's anything I missed in the existing ones.
    • Alternative Title Tropes: I'm not familiar with Stanley getting a trope change (if you can kindly link the discussion, please let me know) but just in case, I'm going to propose an alternative and/or additional tropes for him. I'm fine with one of them being accepted as I know that I probably can't propose both if Action Command gets reaccepted.
      • God/Avatar of the Unexpectedly Abandoned - The Main Premise is that Stanley finds himself all alone in his office, all of his co-workers have disappeared and him getting into the bottom of this. The whole game is exploring the many possibilities that led to this situation or defying the main premise of the game to do something else. This also extends to the Updated Rerelease where due to a mishap with the skip button, he gets forward to the far future to the point where even the Narrator himself goes missing
      • God/Avatar of Reset Button Ending - Any ending Stanley achieves, whether good or bad, leads to Stanley being set back to his office. There are a few endings that implies Stanley is aware that the world resets as seen in one ending where he tried to off himself by jumping off the platform since he cannot see an exit in the Zending, much to the Narrator's protest

Edited by lawliet-saw-whet on Sep 27th 2022 at 1:33:09 AM

Mood Status: Currently suffering from cringe.
SailorVenus372 Since: Nov, 2019 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#193327: Sep 26th 2022 at 4:53:29 PM

[up][tup] for both

I’m plotting my schemes wherever I go! They’re perfect in every way…
lawliet-saw-whet Resident Trope Lurker from Your Head, In Your Head, Zombie, Zombie Since: Sep, 2014 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
Resident Trope Lurker
#193328: Sep 26th 2022 at 4:57:39 PM

[up] Thank you for the approval. For Stanley, should he keep his current trope or get a second one? If it's the latter, which one?
Edit: [down] I see. I'm willing to forfeit Action Commands if the person is actively working (related page say it's Mattman for Ein's Party)
Edit Edit: Since it's not specified which trope was approved, I'm gonna assumed it's approved for all of them so I'll just get Unexpectedly Abandoned as it's the one not tied to anyone's sandbox at the moment and the one that's closest tied to Stanley himself.

Edited by lawliet-saw-whet on Sep 26th 2022 at 8:38:09 PM

Mood Status: Currently suffering from cringe.
fasoman1996 Google "big ears" from Argentina (A.K.A. Naziland) Since: Dec, 2014 Relationship Status: Baby don't hurt me!
Google "big ears"
#193329: Sep 26th 2022 at 5:03:29 PM

He was supposed to change because Action Command is going to someone else but i cannot remember which trope or who was getting the old one.

Uni cat
M1gamiTensei The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps from Punished “Brainwashed” M1gami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps
#193330: Sep 26th 2022 at 5:43:29 PM

Can Klavier be lumped with Von Karma?

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KaoticKanine from Vania of Pencils Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
#193331: Sep 26th 2022 at 5:50:06 PM

[up] I think you mean Kristoph lol Klavier is Kristoph's brother, who is a very moral prosecutor. But I don't see why not. Adding Kristoph alongside Von Karma would be a good way to represent both kinds of attorneys, and Kristoph is very deserving of Amoral Attorney.

M1gamiTensei The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps from Punished “Brainwashed” M1gami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines
The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps
#193332: Sep 26th 2022 at 5:53:50 PM

I would also state our final opponent in base Spirit of Justice, but I dont know if Kurain considers Minister of Justice or any prosecutors as lawyers

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Oggy123 Kirby from Jakarta, Indonesia Since: Oct, 2013
Kirby
#193333: Sep 26th 2022 at 7:16:26 PM

Not trying to be annoying, but i'm asking for some opinions on my proposals.

Edited by Oggy123 on Sep 26th 2022 at 9:19:13 PM

This is not a Rickroll, i promise
Excessive-Menace MaDitto from the Velvet Cage (Not-So-Newbie) Relationship Status: Dancing with myself
KaoticKanine from Vania of Pencils Since: May, 2016 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
#193335: Sep 26th 2022 at 7:44:19 PM

Oggy123- [tup] for your proposals

Edited by KaoticKanine on Sep 26th 2022 at 10:44:30 AM

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#193336: Sep 27th 2022 at 2:41:51 AM

I have a couple of Berserk ideas. The characters have been dead for some time so I think they're OK to propose; I just want to know if they're a good fit for the trope or not

  • Bishop Mozguz, God of Religious Fundamentalism (Hall of Religious Practice, Lawful Evil)-the Arc Villain of the Conviction Arc, Mozguz is a very extreme and also literal Bible thumper. He zealously believes in his faith to the point of slamming his face in the ground and tortured to death uncounted thousands of "heretics" (which, to him, includes such miscreants as peasants desperately begging for food for their starving children when that food was supposed to go to churchmen and church-affiliated knights, who most definitely are not starving). He's a Knight Templar of the worst sort
  • Rosine, Goddess of Hating Adults (Hall of Contempt, Neutral Evil)-Rosine is a young Apostle who came from an abused background, with her Deal with the Devil being a Changeling Fantasy. Wanting to live in her little False Utopia, Rosine believes that adults are rotten and evil and she wants Jill to join her away from them

ShayanthanYuhanthan345 Since: Sep, 2022 Relationship Status: I'm just a poor boy, nobody loves me
#193337: Sep 27th 2022 at 4:42:52 AM

[tup] For Stanley

I do see the level of hard work you've put into, and I hope to achieve that as soon as I get a handle of the editing on this website. I just want to say that I am sorry for seemingly derailing the thread and getting a bit too excessive, and spamming some seemingly random arguments that I should've put more detail and thought into. I'll do another proposal in the near future. If possible.

m-95 Har har har from my place of residence Since: Jun, 2021 Relationship Status: Loves me...loves me not
Har har har
#193338: Sep 27th 2022 at 6:37:15 AM

[up][up]

Surprised Mozgus wasn't already here.

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SailorVenus372 Since: Nov, 2019 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#193339: Sep 27th 2022 at 11:02:12 AM

[tup] for Mozguz

I’m plotting my schemes wherever I go! They’re perfect in every way…
EclipseMT Summoner. Or something. from Illinois Since: Oct, 2014
Summoner. Or something.
#193340: Sep 27th 2022 at 1:23:50 PM

How many from Tolkien's Legendarium can be potentially updated with material from The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power?

Likewise with the ASOIF universe and House of the Dragon.

Ar-Pharazon can likely be updated with this image:https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/ezgifcom_gif_maker_7.jpg

though this was before his in-universe ascension as King (which he did through forcibly marrying his cousin per the Silmarilion).

The one which is currently in place is an interpretation (which I believe is not composed by anyone officially attached to the legendarium).

Edited by EclipseMT on Sep 27th 2022 at 3:24:25 AM

EclipseMT/MendicantECT/729MT. Steam gamer, summoner, and outright everything else
TPPR10 Shocking Gun! from out of nowhere Since: Aug, 2013 Relationship Status: is commanded to— WANK!
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#193341: Sep 27th 2022 at 1:31:54 PM

[up] Generally there is a two month waiting period after something has released/ended when discussion about changes can begin.

Continue the bloodline, Fujimaru!
EclipseMT Summoner. Or something. from Illinois Since: Oct, 2014
Summoner. Or something.
#193342: Sep 27th 2022 at 2:17:07 PM

[up] Saving November 2, 2022 as a reference.

EclipseMT/MendicantECT/729MT. Steam gamer, summoner, and outright everything else
RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#193343: Sep 27th 2022 at 10:27:52 PM

I feel Boba Fett's profile as it is is weak and could do with an update/rework, but I feel we should wait until Mando Season 3 is done

First draft of SCP-3125. Anyone here knowlegable about the SCP Foundation? What things did I miss?

SCP-3125, Deity Of Infectious Ideas (The Escapee, , The Cosmic Starfish, Constellation Starfish, God of Fifthism, Mysterious Mega-Malicious, The Five-Named God, Eljor)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/otksy1r.png
SCP-3125 as it appears in SCP-6659.
  • Hall: Mind Games (House of Mentalism)
  • Overdeity (Object Class: Keter)
  • Symbolnote : A "spider" with a five-pointed starfish symbol on its back
  • Alignment: Neutral Evil
  • Portfolio: "SCP-033" Dimensional Fractal Eldritch Abomination, You Cannot Grasp the True Form, Associated With Anti-Memetic Spiders, Is Possibly The God The Fifthists Worship, The Assimilator via Mind Virus, Erases Those Who Witness Its True Shape, AND Their "Mental Bystanders" As A Defense Mechanism, It Can Think, A God Am I
  • Domains: Aliens, Living Ideas, Infection, Memetics, Assimilation, Otherness
  • Worshippers: The Fifth Church
  • Allies: SCP-682 , Ungoliant, Shelob, The Auditors of Reality, Starro the Conqueror
  • Rivals: The Chaos Gods, Darkseid, YHVH, Melkor, the Borg Collective, The Illuminati, The Idea Of Evil
  • Enemies: The SCP Foundation, AM, the Hall of Memes, Billy, Lucifer, The Emperor of Mankind, The Godhand, all Lantern Corps and emotional entities (eg: Iroque), Zamasu, the Hadou Gods, The Men in Black, Vril Dox/Brainiac, the Houses of Knowledge and Philosophy, Truth, Dream of the Endless, Wikipe-tan and Trope-tan, Fuminori Sakisaka, every human and human-friendly deity, honestly anyone not under allies
  • Wary of: The Nothing
  • There are higher planes of existence, and in one ideas evolved to become far more dangerous and aggressive than any normal mortal could naturally prepare itself for. SCP-3125 (true name: ) is an extra-dimensional meme complex, an Eldritch Abomination and Brown Note that intersects reality. Any human who knows about it is assimilated into a drone that only exists to spread its core concepts to other people. And those who see its true shape have their existence, and their family and colleague's existence erased and forgotten from everyone. And if it arrives in full, humanity as we know it will no longer exist; replaced by the idea of SCP-3125. Anyone subsumed by 3125 can no longer be recognized as human.
  • SCP-3125 is considered one of the most dangerous beings in the Trope Pantheon to personally interact, being akin to one of the Chaos Gods or Darkseid via the Anti-Life Equation fully forcing their will on some poor, unfortunate mortal. There are four main reasons why hasn't succeeded at assimilating the Trope Pantheon. One is that it is such a World of Badass that there are abstract beings on the Overdeity tier capable of fighting it off. Two is that there are small enough fragments to be potentially manageable, and if Project Prometheus goes as planned, SCP-6659 can be used to proverbially shatter SCP-3125 to pieces this way, once tied to a religion. Three is that there is a special chamber where it doesn't exist and thus can be talked about safely. And fourth, its antimemetic spider agents are physical and thus vulnerable to say, Billy freaking out. The SCP notably doesn't want to assimilate something so brainless.
  • The entity is believed to be the true god of the Fifth Church because of its connection to the number five, association with starfish and origin from the Fifth Dimension; a higher plane of existence where stronger ideas fed on the weaker ones in order to amplify themselves. This probably isn't the same place that Mr Mxyzptlk comes from, but as a high-tier Reality Warper he's one of the few who can witness the whole of SCP-3125 and come out unscathed. Personally he can't imagine why wants to assimilate humanity when trolling people is way more fun, but the eldritch idea stated "I follow my nature, and there are worse things for humanity to follow...AM for one; what he does to people is unthinkable". For those wondering why he singles AM out, its because he's a being who 3125 finds "disgusting" like the mysterious entity in humanity's subconscious, according to SCP-5000's records. Best not to ask what that entails.
    • SCP-3125 is allies with SCP-682 partly because they both sense "IT", which may be why the latter hates humanity. In the SCP-6820 timeline, 3125 aided 682 in gaining apotheosis. One can only hope and pray the mainstream 682 doesn't get an "upgrade".
  • Some other origins of SCP-3125 have it be one of the primal old gods at the beginning of time, the dreams of Jacob Montauk, a creation of the SCP-6998 phenomenon or when a cult known as the Disciples of the Unseen began worshipping a human subspecies known as Homo sapiens invisibili, who possessed antimemetic properties. Again, there is no canon. In terms of its appearance in the Trope Pantheon, SCP-3125 is at its core an idea-form and thought it'd be a great way to spread. By its inherent nature, is imicable to the Hall of Memes being it is an extremely dangerous and aggressive living meme...and they're jus its primary enemy. Barring some sparse allies the entity is opposed by the rest of the Trope Pantheon for wanting to assimilate all other wills and supplant weaker ideas. He is notably one of few eldritch abominations to whom Fuminori's warped perception offers no protection because 3125 is not so such "physically" abominable as it is conceptually.
  • SCP-3125 is the Arch-Enemy of the Antimemetics Divisionnote . Because they fight against enemies that often cannot be remembered, they make plans for losing memories to remain calm and know what to do even when they have lost their memories. Except for the specialized chamber, they must spend their time unaware of 3125 or bad things will happen. This is also where the neuralizers of the Men in Black come in handy as a means of fighting . Their similarity to the SCP Foundation has been noted to the entity, and like them sees them as a noteworthy obstacle to invading reality. As it is extremely dangerous to know about the Eldritch Abomination, the House of Knowledge considers the being extremely frustrating to deal with. Given his remorseless desire to gather knowledge, Brainiac is especially incensed he can never analyze and subvert SCP-3125. is also considered imicable to the House of Philosophy due to being a hostile idea-form that would kill the concept of philosophy within human beings should it win.
  • SCP-3125 could also be considered an inherent enemy of the human race as its goal is to replace their minds and ideas with itself. Though perhaps not as reality-breaking as the Chaos Gods, the Emperor of Mankind considers 3125's victory exactly as awful as if the Chaos Gods were to take full control over humanity and he has sworn to find a way to destroy the thought-form. The entity in turn considers the Emperor's soul/astral form as one of its main obstacles to making mankind an extension of itself. The Emperor has been informed of a plan by the SCP Foundation defeat it: if SCP-3125 is so intent on claiming to represent the very humans it plans on subjugating, they'll just make humanity itself a religion that SCP-3125 will end up connecting itself to, and then slowly build up an acquired immunity that will make 3125 appear as if it was never there. Given his anti-religious views, it's not something he'd do lightly.
  • It is one of the few beings the Godhand fear because by supplanting all other concepts in the human mind with itself, it leaves them with nothing to use and full takeover would destroy the Idea of Evil. It is also a being abhorrent to all Lantern Corps and the Emotional Entities because as those who are turned into its puppets are solely dedicated to thinking and spreading the idea of they would have no emotions. However Nekron is not a fan of SCP-3125 either since while the SCP is a conceptual being instead of alive, it needs life to spread its idea-form. That said, 3125 has teamed up with the Scarlet King so it was prudent enough to side with Nekron until they can stop the different Lantern Corps from being a threat.
  • Of the different Lantern Corps muses Iroque shares some of its principles because those under Heel–Face Brainwashing are only capable of compassion, much like those under its own will are only capable of thinking in relation to itself. The Hall of Mind Control have noted that SCP-3125's goals would make it an appropriate honorary member, however the Escapee thinks otherwise; what it is doing is far more than just "controlling" people's minds, and instead outright redefining them in a way that would make Moebius jealous. It'd be more accurate to say its goal is assimilation like the Borg Collective, but solely through Mind Rape and not any invasive surgery. As a living idea the Borg cannot assimilate SCP-3125, but they do know human minds lack any defense against because they have no natural experience to such an idea. As such, they're trying to both form a mental immunity to the entity and create a higher Borg-idea form to stand a chance.
  • Humanity subsumed by the will of SCP-3125 sounds compelling to the Auditors of Reality as mankind only following one concept and not a billion different others makes their paperwork much easier. They still like Nekron more as no form of life is still simpler than 3125-based life. As the Auditors are also idea-forms, feels that criticism is hypocritical. Humanity subsumed by a single idea also sounds compelling to Darkseid and YHVH as well, but their problem is that that "idea" should be them instead. 3125 is such an overwhelmingly powerful being the two have to argue with in their own high-concept, overwhelmingly true forms.
  • SCP-3125 considers itself the patron deity of humanity, and its savior for fighting "IT". The House of Religion and Faith asked if it looks down all the literal deities present that civilization has come to recognize, to which it replied "yes, obviously". Lucifer sees SCP-3125 as similar in nature to YHVH, and thus utterly abhorrent. 3125 personally cannot understand what he finds valuable about mankind as they are now. The living idea is seen as one of the few beings Dream feels he needs to step in to deal with as those assimilated into the idea of are so singularly motivated they cannot dream or imagine anything anymore. The hold the meme complex has on people also cuts them off from the Chaos Gods being able to influence them, with all four regarding as a rival power.
  • Because of its usage of antimemetic spiders, SCP-3125 felt it pragmatic to side with some spider deities for the time being. Ungoliant was picked to aid its ambitions because of her feud with ex-ally Melkor. SCP-3125 saw him as a being like itself; one who spreads their will and idea into the foundations of reality. In Melkor's case, it is his evil, hence his God of Evil role in Arda. Granted, works on a much different and stranger manner, but there's a basic principle the two share. However, despite its pragmatism the meme complex finds the Villain Teamup an inevitably temporary situation. The wildest goal of the living idea is to take after/supplant the Hadou Gods by taking the Throne, in order to become the dominant Law and defining principle of reality.
  • By its nature, SCP-3125 is a lie. An embodiment of lie, the number five, rage, violence, constellations, defeatism and transcendence. It is so counter to how people should be Truth regards it as anathema to the will of the universe and itself. SCP-3125 is also capable of manifesting a human form to not destroy the minds of those it interacts with, looking like a man in their 20s. Another "form you are comfortable with" (or rather what the Fifth Church sees as its true form) of the meme complex is a one-eyed starfish. Its more a simplification, though it did make "Constellation Starfish" think of an actual starfish that subverts people's will; Starro the Conqueror. In another case of alliance for the sake of convenience, and Starro decided a Villain Teamup between the two was worthwhile.
  • Though SCP-3125 has a great amount of confidence, it does fear something; the anafabula SCP-2747, an anti-narrative who's existence is imicable to the very idea of storytelling. Think the Nothing, but more metafictional and a lot more dangerous. While less scared of the Nothing than the anafabula, the imagination-destroying force of oblivion is not something the Escapee wants to deal with. Despite few if any members of the Trope Pantheon liking they agree with its pleas that 2747 should not ascend. On the flip side, Trope-tan and Wikipe-tan consider 3125 almost as bad; if humanity only thinks of and spreads one idea and concept, tropes could no longer exist in man and looking up information would become irrelevant.

SailorVenus372 Since: Nov, 2019 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#193344: Sep 27th 2022 at 11:24:13 PM

[up] As Long as There Is Evil deities like Idea of Evil and Chaos might have some resistance to it, if not be outright immune. In the case of the latter it trying its defense mechanism may end with it getting a dose of Mind Rape from Chaos instead.

Something with GOLB?

Edited by SailorVenus372 on Sep 27th 2022 at 11:40:50 AM

I’m plotting my schemes wherever I go! They’re perfect in every way…
r-lock256 (Spin-off Series)
#193345: Sep 28th 2022 at 3:57:30 PM

A couple of rework ideas for profiles with lackluster text:

  • Q*bert (Symbol Swearing): Q*bert is prone to swearing whenever he falls off the stage or gets hit and it's rendered as symbols. In his appearance in Wreck-It Ralph, said swearing also happens to be a language known as Q-bertese.
  • Speedy Gonzales (Mexicans Love Speedy Gonzales): A quick-witted mouse from Mexico, Speedy Gonzales was accused of being a stereotype of Mexicans but despite it, he was well-received by Mexicans and remains popular there thanks to being a positive role-model and not an Ethnic Scrappy.

Necromancer10 Buddy from Crakcarz, the Continent of Wacky Necromancers Since: May, 2019 Relationship Status: Browsing the selection
RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015
#193347: Sep 28th 2022 at 8:59:38 PM

I have a potential idea that I want to know if I should pursue it. In hindsight I do not think my Nox profile is a good example of Truly Single Parent as it's a very much Depending on the Writer thing-some of her offspring she created by herself, but a fair few she had with her husband Erebus. I am considering reworking her (it's an older adopted profile that isn't up to my current standards when reworking mythological figures) for the God of Darkness trope as she is quite literally the night itself while he lesser-known husband is the darkness. However I also recognize that some people might want some non-mythological figure or their own idea for God of Darkness. So what I am asking is advice for what I should do, or if this is just a case of "if it ain't broke, don't fix it"

HamanaHamanaHamana Dog or Oni? (Bitroper)
Dog or Oni?
#193348: Sep 29th 2022 at 12:44:02 AM

@rlock [tup]

I swear Loid, you can't draw worth shit!
AzureLegacy Since: Sep, 2018
#193349: Sep 29th 2022 at 7:08:02 AM

[up][up] I was hoping to change the trope of my Knull profile from The Symbiote to God of Darkness. I agreed to The Wikia Editor in Knull's initial trope change, but in truth despite creating the Symbiotes and literally being their god, I don’t think I can give Knull the trope because he himself isn’t an example of a Symbiote. However his status as a God of Darkness is one of his most noticeable characteristics, having been born in the Primordial Chaos (the state of absolute nothingness in darkness), creating a number of species of Living Shadows, having numerous names related to darkness, and his status as a god even gives him a level of influence and dominion over others with dark powers or literal dark sides, like Cloak and The Void.

SailorVenus372 Since: Nov, 2019 Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
#193350: Sep 29th 2022 at 10:30:00 AM

[up][tup] for that.

I’m plotting my schemes wherever I go! They’re perfect in every way…

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