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- When writing a profile, take note of the following:
- The very first thing any contributor should do before working on an idea or a profile is to propose and nominate the idea on the Trope Pantheons discussion thread
. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning, a paragraph of reasoning to justify taking a trope should be sufficient. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Attempting to work on ideas without a nomination and at least one net thumbs-up will not be accepted regardless of how much you have written already. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
- If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. For reworks in particular, nominate the idea as you would with new characters or profiles. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
- In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread
. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user, either in the Pantheon or the Sandbox sections.
- In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread
- If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters. Some real-life individuals, including content creators (fictional content created by them is still fair-game, but do not bring up the creators themselves in such cases), may be considered disqualified for profiles due to controversies that would make them concern the Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment. To determine where a current creator would be disqualified:
- Wait for at least a month after the latest significant update for a creator's controversy before any decision can be made. If a confirmation from the questioned creator (or associates) themselves occurs, then wait for a week.
- Immediate disqualification for either a guilty sentence in a significant court case against the creator, or evidence of consistently repeated, deliberate, and/or intentionally provocative hate speech and advocacy of dehumanizing perspectives, with lesser examples warranting caution instead.
- For creators with a clear persona of their character disclosed before any scandal, the persona can have a profile with no mentioning of their real-life information. Ambiguous existence of a persona would have to be discussed further hand for anything more decisive.
- For obvious reasons, gods cannot be followers, high priests, or heralds. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
- No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
- You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
- The very first thing any contributor should do before working on an idea or a profile is to propose and nominate the idea on the Trope Pantheons discussion thread
- When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
- When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
- You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread
in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
- For new and reworked deities, 3
means the profile will have a one-week waiting period.
- For new and reworked deities, 4
is a 3 day waiting period.
- 5
is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
- Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
- For new and reworked deities, 3
- For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions Expansion, the following rules apply:
- For new Treasures or Dominions, 3
is a 3 day waiting period.
- 4
is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
- For new Treasures or Dominions, 3
- Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be one flavor text.
- The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like to look like Character Shilling.
- Every troper new to the Pantheon is barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles, this means avoiding the usage of "
" or "
".
- Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
- Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for the deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
- Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
- On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others. After all, no one is responding to their idea.
- You can also adopt a profile or idea to work on from another contributor by messaging a request to them (preferably through private messages). Even if you get their permission, you still have to announce your adoption to the forum. Note that if the idea wasn't nominated in the first place you still have to properly nominate it.
- When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
- Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to note in a trope example that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, correct the situation by deleting the offending text. This goes for any non-Pantheon page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Pantheon.Good And Evil Colors.
- Do not bring things that would incite fights; hot topics and 'urgent' news are not pertinent to the Pantheon's mission. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight each other, so don't suggest things that go in that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
- To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
- Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.
- When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
- Please refer to Text Formatting Rules when writing a profile, since understanding how to make and edit site pages in general is a necessity for working on profiles or other Pantheon content. Additionally, if you are not experienced with English, refer to this forum page
, as proper English spelling and grammar is expected.
- All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also, be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
- The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
- A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
- If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in another House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity at most.
- For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part of their series' official soundtracks from the media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters' appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
- For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlight a character's behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute it to the original artist. Due to the website's dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website
is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too many bytes, it is suggestible to use this site
to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, run the compressed image through other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikis to look for better images, as even wikis for the series might not contain good official images.
- Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that make sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
- Please refer to Text Formatting Rules when writing a profile, since understanding how to make and edit site pages in general is a necessity for working on profiles or other Pantheon content. Additionally, if you are not experienced with English, refer to this forum page
- Pantheon Content:
- Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
- As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally an expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entirely from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
- Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well-advised not to abuse them. The only house where trope-less profiles are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
- For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
- Do not write in self-promotion or blatant advertising. Minor references to something are fine but writing that clearly intends to advertise something will not be given toleration.
- Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
- For Profile Standards:
- Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place, or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
- Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
- A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
- Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending on if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
- On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
- Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
- A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
- Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
- Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
- A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
- Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.
- Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warper deities capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
- Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warper deities that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
- Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low-level Reality Warper beings capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
- Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
- Demigods: Badass Normal citizens of the pantheon, making up for their lower status with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
- Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.
- An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
- Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on the representation of power mentioned above.
- Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
- Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud
or YouTube
.
- Alignment: Good, evil, neutral, etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here; the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignments to characters that don't have an alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
- For Pokémon deities only:
- Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
- Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
- Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
- Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
- Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
- Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
- High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case the deity would be unavailable, incapacitated, dead, or otherwise incapable of carrying out their duties. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
- Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
- Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
- Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
- Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
- Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either from their perspective or yours.
- Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
- Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
- Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
- Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
- Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly oppose or are opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects", "On Good Terms With", and/or "Commonality Connection") in terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
- Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
- Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
- OPTIONAL NOTE FOR CHARACTER RELATIONSHIPS: Should the list for Character relationships (IE. Allies, Enemies, etc.) become too big, categorize a certain number of characters to a specific group putting them on a sublist (One example: Luigi is from the same world as his brother Mario, hence Luigi should be fall under the Super Mario Bros sublist.)
- Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part, the order is irrelevant:
- The Ascension Text: This is the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
- The Bio: A brief synopsis of the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
- Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
- And some more trivia/facts.
- And a couple more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.
- An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
- Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
- Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
- Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
- Domains: Things that the place has links to.
- Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as to where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
- Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
- Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
- And some more trivia/facts.
- And a couple more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.
- An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
- Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
- Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
- Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
- Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
- Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
- Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
- Domains: Things that the item has links to.
- Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as to where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
- Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
- Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
- And some more trivia/facts.
- And a couple more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.
Edited by Tabs on Jun 24th 2024 at 7:51:43 AM
A reminder that TrueChaos was given two disapprovals, which means that one approval would make the idea standing on one
. The Kiramegers need one more approval to even things or two to be eligible for having a draft.
Edited by CrimsonShark on May 15th 2021 at 4:52:58 PM
WHERE IS KRYPTO, I mean, WHERE IS THE DOG!!!@Inawa Maybe interactions with her fellow Missing Mom Jun Kazama?
And I have some proposals.
Tatewaki Kuno, God of Prince Charming Wannabes
- Reasoning: Kuno believes himself to be a dashing modern samurai admired by all who is loved by Akane Tendo and of the 'Pig-Tailed Girl', which he obsesses over. In truth, the two girls hate his guts and he's generally disliked due to his perverted personality and bullying behavior. No matter how much his 'love interests' insult or clobber him, he's persuaded they're head-over-heels over him and just too shy to admit it, and he similarly tends to assume any woman he encounters is in love with him. He pushes delusional arrogance and obnoxiousness to its extreme.
Kaito Momota, god of Good Ways To Die
- Reasoning: Kaito is an astronaut trainee whose biggest dream is to go into space one day. Before the end of his training, he was kidnapped along with other talented teenagers to be forced into a game of murders and investigations. During it, he learned that he had a deadly disease, making him fear dying before accomplishing his dream. To keep someone else from becoming a culprit, he created a murder with the help of his own victim. His execution was supposed to be the Ironic Death of being put in a rocket that would go to before crashing down. But he died peacefully while he was in space, with the satisfaction of saving someone and reaching his dream. His good death actually piss off the normally serene Monokuma and is the only time where an execution is not a Cruel and Unusual Death.
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for both ideas.
"Join your heart...with mine!"
Vanitas out of the way, here's a proto draft for the White Wizard, Saruman. I've stated this before, and I'll say it again; I've adopted this from Super Wiki 1 and the idea was already approved to begin with (though I also found out that Saruman was originally an idea from RJ-Clovis-93).
Anyway, what about Saruman himself? He was once a respected demideity who was corrupted by temptation and turned against his allies to take over the world, in addition to not having any loyalty to Sauron either and destroying the environment just to create more power to himself, what could be potential ideas for the White Wizard to interact with? I'd like to see ideas and suggestions based on what I've established here.
Beyond that, additional suggestions and ideas are always welcome.
Prototype Mode
Saruman, God of Industrialized Evil (Saruman the White, Saruman of Many Colours, The White Wizard, Curunír, Curumo (his birth name), Saruman the Wise, Lord of Isengard, Head of the White Council, "The Boss", Sharkey, Sharku)

- Potential House: Evil Actions (House of Villains)
- Intermediate God (currently), Greater God (before being stripped of his power), Quasideity (after being stripped of his power), but has Greater God authority
- Symbol: The Hand of Saruman
, alternatively his tower, Isengard
- Theme Song: "Isengard Unleashed
"
- Alignment: Lawful Evil, initially Lawful Good
- Portfolio: Big Good Who Turned Evil, Dragon with an Agenda to Sauron, Competent, But Outclassed By His Master Who He Wishes To Overthrow, Destroyed Much of the Fangorn Forest To Create Uruk-Hai, Dreams Of A One-Man Industrial Revolution, Evil Counterpart to Gandalf, Corrupted Wizard, Boasts He Transcends Morality, Skilled Deceiver, Has A Compelling Voice, Stabbed to Death/Throat Slit by Wormtongue and Gets Impaled On A Wheel (in the movie only)
- Domains: Betrayal Creation, Industry, Wizards, Impurity, Greed, Corruption, Power
- Superior: J. R .R. Tolkien
- Avatar: Sir Christopher Lee
- Heralds: His army of Uruk-hai, led by Ugluk and marked with the Hand of Saruman
- Direct Pantheonic Superior: Sauron, though he has also chosen to work under Emperor Palpatine
- Top Pantheonic Superior note : Darkseid
- Allies: The Witch-King of Angmar, Shelob (somewhat), Hexxus, Lord Voldemort
- Teeth-Clenched Teamwork: Mr. Burns, Mannfred von Carstein, Jadis the White Witch
- Enemies:
- Tolkien's Legendarium: Gandalf, Treebeard, Frodo and Bilbo Baggins, Smeagol/Gollum, Aragorn, Elrond, Legolas, Gimli
- Other Enemies: Gaea and the Grand United Alliance Of Nature, The Jedi Order, Count Dooku, Harry Potter, Merlin, Albus Dumbledore, Astuko "Akko" Kagari, Diana Cavendish, Ursula Callistis/Chariot du Nord, The Pevensie Siblings, Byleth, Lucina, Sigmar Heldenhammer, Pamela Isley/Poison Ivy, Viridi, Armadon
- Opposed By: Malekith, Hogwarts Students and Staff Faculty
- Wary of: Melkor
- In Middle-Earth, good and evil is very easy to spot. Some people's hearts are pure and white, while others are rotten and black. Then there are times when the heart is divided, disloyal to both sides, working entirely for itself. Grey. Saruman is an individual with such a heart, and now the Wizard of Many Colours has made his triumphant entry into the Pantheon.
- Initially a respected Maia, Saruman soon became corrupted by the temptations of the Palantir, despite his steady determination to oppose and defeat Sauron. Unfortunately, desire overtook and contaminated Saruman's psyche and he began to turn against everything he fought for and stood with, especially his dear friend, Gandalf. In time, Saruman set up his base of operations in the Black Tower of Isengard, where using the Palantir to communicate with Sauron, he created an army of Orcs and engineered a new breed, the Uruk-Hai, to bolster the forces of the Dark Lord of Mordor whilst he would go on to uproot and destroy nearby forests, especially that of Fangorn to industrialize his army and resources.
- Saruman ascended into the Pantheon... after being cut off from life in the most embarrassing fashion a powerful user of magic could get. Sources vary, but consistently, he was killed by Veins Wormtongue after the White Wizard's abusive nature finally pushed Grima's breaking point. Some sources claim that he suddenly had his throat slit whereas in another world of mouths, he was stabbed in the back and then fell from the top of Isengard, all the way, to be impaled by a spiked wheel and then drowned in waternote . Regardless, the White Wizard was in fumes as all his efforts amounted to nothing and is now plotting to get back in retaliation of his defeat. Though that said, because of his very character, he's now got more troubles than just "oppose the heroes and take over the world".
- Saruman is infamous in his realms for simply not having any allegiance or loyalty to anybody but himself, as can be attested to his claims of referring to himself as "Saruman of Many Colors" and mentally admitting that working with Sauron, despite his affirmation to "rule this Middle-earth" was only a means to an end; he was plotting to seize the opportunity to take the ring for himself and overcome the Dark Lord himself so that Saruman himself could assert ultimate control. His treacherous nature towards both, good and evil alike, has more or less rendered the White Wizard extremely unpopular in the Pantheon, and ever since then, things haven't really been looking up to him. The only positive thing about him, according to others, is that he does possess incredible power and wisdom, despite the latter being contaminated by the Palantir and turning to the dark forces of Mordor. That said, and to his pleasant surprise, Saruman has managed to find a few collaborators to get along with.
- He has one of the most famous real-life avatars of all time, so it felt natural that Saruman would stumble across those that shared the same avatar as he did. Not all of them, however, had a positive thought about the White Wizard, one of whom was Count Dooku, a former Sith Lord, and Apprentice who initially worked for the Grand United Alliance of Evil before defecting after realizing just how much his personal motives clashed too much against his former alliance's ultimate goals, in addition to seeing tyrants as a dire threat as Dooku was a staunch political idealist before his fall to the Dark Side. The fact that Saruman ended up betraying his principles and becoming no less an Evil Overlord just as much as the beings he used to oppose wasn't helping matters either. Saruman shot back, stating that Dooku isn't in any position when he also betrayed what he fought for, only for the latter to respond by stating that he was at least motivated by something genuine and he realized the error of his ways, whereas the latter refused to see what he did wrong and remain unrepentant until the end. As a result, Saruman and Dooku have remained bitter enemies ever since, constantly battling one another over their ideals.
Edited by CrimsonShark on May 15th 2021 at 6:24:34 PM
WHERE IS KRYPTO, I mean, WHERE IS THE DOG!!!@Alecoene: Remember to check out the Pantheonic Soldiers of Fortune. Marco's definitely getting a spot there for sure. What other mercs would he get entangled with?
TV Tropes Pantheon Group Members Database@Kiramagers: Better explanation convinces me, so
to them.
@Saruman: Shadow Weaver was once a respected magician who turned to the dark side as a result of not being listened to when she tried using dark magic to fight the Etherian Horde's threat. Hordak and Entrapta were once part of said Horde, with Hordak being its founder and engaged in Industrialized Evil acts during their time as part of it
Prettiest Meta Knight Gijinka, nglI have a couple of proposals:
Guitar Warrior, God of Greeting The Player Upon Death.
- Reasoning: Despite being from an otherwise fairly obscure game, Total Distortion boasts one of the most well-known game-overs in gaming, no thanks to the song 'You Are Dead, Dead, Dead', which is sung by the Guitar Warrior himself.
Penny Polendina, Goddess of Floating Blades.
- Reasoning: Penny, hailing from the popular animation RWBY, is one of the most known examples of this trope at work, using her Floating Array as her main form of attack.
Venti, God of the Corralling Vacuum.
- Reasoning: This trope sums up one of the staples of Venti's movepool, and one of main reasons he is considered a Game-Breaker in his home game is that this very trope makes him an invaluable support.
for Venti.
Made a Sandbox for Webcomics represented in the Pantheon with <4 deities. Feel free to add deities from Webcomics there.
Edited by ShonenTrash98 on May 15th 2021 at 11:17:45 AM
@Saruman: Starscream is someone who similarly has no loyalty besides himself.
And here's the new version of Porco.
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to be honest, I can't imagine how he could have a 'deeper' relationship with Angry Birds.
Marco Pagot, God of Pig Men (Porco Rosso, Marco Rosselini)

- Potential House: Anthropomorphic Animals
- Lesser God
- Symbol: His Plane.
- Alignment: Chaotic Neutral bordering on Good
- Portfolio: Cursed into the form of a Pig Man, Extraordinary pilot of a Cool Plane but deeply flawed due to his Survivor Guilt, Bounty Hunter that refuses to kill, Rude and gruff, yet a good person, Cynical towards life
- Domains: Aviation, Pigs, Curses
- High Priest:
- Followers: Pey'j
- Allies: Nausicaa, Kiki, Chihiro Ogino, Howl and Sophie Hatter, Miles "Tails" Prower, The Beast, Tiana and Naveen, Richard "Dick" Best, Launchpad McQuack, Ted Cruz, Star Fox, Timon & Pumbaa, Porky Pig, Babe, Takumi Aldini, Takumi Aldini, Greef Karga
- Rivals: Boba Fett, Zaeed Massani, Samus Aran, Captain Falcon, Balthier, Wolf O'Donnel
- Enemies: Napoleon (Animal Farm), Lobo, Lockdown,
- Annoyed by: Deadpool, Wilson, The Piglins
- Respected by/Respects:
- Pities: Seita and Setsuko Yokokawa, Gregor Samsa
- Conflicting Opinion: Okkoto-Nushi,
- Marco Pagot was once an ace fighter in the Italian Air Force during World War I. But during a disastrous mission, he saw every member of his unit die to enemy fire, becoming the Sole Survivor out of all his friends. After this, he was cursed through unknown circumstances into the form of a humanoid pig, as a symbol of his own self-loathing due to Survivor Guilt and of his growing disillusionment towards humanity. He defected from the army during the rise of Fascism in Italy and became an excellent bounty hunter, earning him the hatred of both sky pirates and the Italian government. Though he kept a cynical point of view during much of that time, his bonding with a young mechanic by the name of Fio Piccolo made him progressively regain some hope of humanity. But after a dogfight with a french mercenary, the two parted way as Porco ended up chased by the Italian military. After this, there were no records of his whereabouts...
- Until when he suddenly entered the Pantheon, crashing in catastrophe in the House of Beasts after his plane took a nasty hit. As he left the wreckage, he was shocked to discover a wilderness populated by sentient animals and other hybrid-looking persons much like him. He was guided towards the Court of the Gods, where his life was reviewed. Finding that he was no doubt the most notorious Pig Man there was, he was given the role of being their divine representative. Though apprehensive at first, Porco took to his new life in the Pantheon pretty quickly. He doesn't mind having to live in the Bestiary either, as having a place to rest away from people suits him just fine.
- Naturally, he has met several other deities originating from Studio Ghibli works:
- As he was flying through the sky, he was shocked to see two young girls riding on a strange small machine and a broom respectively. There were none other than Nausicaa and Kiki, who was enjoying a stroll. Ever since this, the pig-headed man sometimes joins them in flying together through the sky, and he often calls on Kiki to send and receive deliveries from his isolated home.
- He can't help but feel great pity when he learned about Seita and Setsuko Yokokawa, two children who got an even more ignoble death in the World Wars than his old friends. Still, he doesn't talk to them much as he figures it's because of selfish adults like him that they suffered in the first place. Not to mention that as a 'traitor' to Italy, he was technically an enemy of Imperial Japan.
- Okkoto-nushi was at first confused by the presence of a porcine who worked on his two legs, but he quickly lost all interest in Porco Rosso when he smelled the stink of civilization and warfare on him. The bounty hunter doesn't blame him for resenting humans as he perfectly understood the boar god's situation.
- Chihiro Ogino, upon hearing of Porco's condition, was immediately reminded of how her parents were once transformed into pigs. She went to meet the aviator to tell him that she'll do anything to find a way to change him back. He appreciates the thought but told her she shouldn't bother herself for him, as he's gotten used to his form. Still, the girl really wants to help him with it.
- On another flight through the House of Pantheon's sky, he happened to notice a very odd building moving through the wilderness. He curiously approached it, which led to him meeting the great wizard Howl and Sophie Hatter. He gets along with both of them rather well despite the sorcerer's flighty attitude, as he empathizes with him wanting to stay out of a war and Sophie having been once under the effect of a curse respectively.
- One thing he noticed very early on during his days in the Pantheon is that there was no way his 20s era biplane could keep up with the much more advanced technology in this place. And so, he wandered around to find someone who could help him upgrade it. Upon hearing that a so-called genius inventor was experienced with similar-looking planes as his, he went to meet the young fox Tails to ask him for help. The latter was happy to provide his services and so upgraded Porco's beloved ride so that it could keep up with more modern machines.
- He got to meet other people who were once under the effects of curses that turned into something else, like the prince known as The Beast or Tiara and Naveen. They very much empathize with his situation and wish for him to eventually find a way to turn back into a human. He answered that he doubts it can be fixed with something as simple and idealistic as 'true love', but still get along well with them.
- Some deities have noticed that he seems to return to human form at the rare moments when he's truly happy or optimistic about his life, though he tends to brush that off if people tell him about it. Howl has theorized that, much like Sophie's curse was, his form is tied to his emotional state and self-esteem, and that he would truly be able to break the curse only when he fully surmounted his trauma. The wizard has also noted that this information shouldn't be shared with him as he has to develop naturally.
- He absolutely pities, Gregor Samsa, who had turned into an even uglier form as a representation of his self-loathing, and didn't even have the freedom that Porco got. Sometimes, he tries to give advice to the vermin-like man, but it's to no avail as Gregor doesn't have enough confidence to really change by himself.
- He has met a few other aviators in the Pantheon and generally gets along well with them due to their shared interest. Despite Richard Halsey Best coming from a country enemy to his own, Porco had no love for Fascist Italy and by extension, the Axis Powers and so doesn't mind him at all.
- Though he appreciates Launchpad's love for planes, he has explicitly forbidden the duck from trying out his own after learning what happens most of the time. The same thing applies to Joseph Joestar, who is forbidden from even being a passenger.
- While he was enjoying his time at one of the Pantheon's bar, he happened to notice Ted Cruz drinking in his own odd way. Curious about this, Porco walked to the other ex-war pilot to ask what was up with that. Though the sheer boredom of the story was the thing that came the closest to ever killing Porco, he still emphasizes with Ted's trauma from the war. He just knows to not go drinking with him from now on.
- After learning that there was a humanoid pig piloting a flying vehicle in the Pantheon, the members of Star Fox were worried that their old enemy Pygma had somehow managed to ascend. They were relieved to see that Porco was a much nobler person than his fellow pig ever was, and sometimes hang out with him to share stories about their lines of work.
- There were already a few pigs in the Pantheon that were curious to meet him. He doesn't think much about Babe or Pumbaa, though he does find the first cute (not that he'd admit it) and can get behind the latter's philosophy of a carefree life. He was surprised to learn that Porky Pig also had experience as a pilot for the military, which allowed the two to bond over talking about such an experience. One pig he is absolutely disgusted with, however, is Napoleon after seeing the latter's despotic reign over his farm. In Porco's words, he's a man who grew disillusioned with mankind and became a pig, while Napoleon's a pig who became everything disgusting about men.
- As was said before, Porco is a bounty hunter who specializes in going after sky pirates, though he refuses to kill them. Naturally, he has continued his work in the Pantheon, and so has competed with many of his fellow bounty hunters, such as Samus, Captain Falcon, or Boba Fett. Though he actually doesn't mind them on a personal level, purely seeing it as a professional rivalry. The exceptions are people like Lobo or Lockdown, whose absolutely odious behaviors disgust him. And he finds Deadpool completely insufferable, especially since the Merc with a Mouth keep making flying pig jokes.
- Ironically enough, his relationship with the god of Sky Pirate, Balthier, is similarly cordial. Though he does go after him when he's paid to, they're fairly chummy with each other 'off the clock', as they're both far from the worse example of their kind the other has seen.
- Naturally, he needs someone to provide him with contact and bounties, and so has been working with Greef Karga. He appreciates the latter's professionalism and understanding that he doesn't kill during his jobs. And so, naturally, he has joined up with the Pantheonic Soldiers of Fortune.
- Another bounty hunter that he got to 'meet' was Wolf O'Donnel, who challenged the pig-man to a dogfight after learning of his skills. The combat ended inconclusively, but the wolf does enjoy testing his skills against the World War I. Though Porco says it's annoying, he can't help but enjoy those bouts a bit.
- He greatly enjoys the food of his homeland, and so spends a good while of his first days in the Pantheon searching for a way to get some nice Italian cuisine. He eventually tried out a meal at Takumi Aldini's restaurant. Though he was at first skeptical by the mixture of Italian and Japanese influence, a taste of the food won him over, and he's now a regular there.
- When he saw Porco, Wilson mistook him as one of the pigs from The Constant, whose services could be bought for food. And so he threw raw meat right in front of the pilot in a bid to recruit him. Porco Rosso just stayed silent for a good minute before raising his head and telling the scientist to piss off.
- A similar misunderstanding happened when his plane had to do an emergency landing in the Nether. Fortunately, he hadn't too much problem coming back to safer waters thanks to the help of some Piglins who mistook him as one of their own. Despite this help, he was very annoyed during the trip by the obsession those monsters had with gold, and so has done his best to avoid both them and their habitat.
- The Angry Birds often growl at Porco if he comes too close to their nest since their experience with egg-stealing pigs gave them a large distrust of all things porcine. He himself couldn't care less about those crazy birds and their eggs.
Edited by Alecoene on May 15th 2021 at 9:42:52 PM
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Excessive-Menace had an idea for giving the Archons (which includes Venti) Elemental Nation and plans to work on them at a later point in time. Said contributor also had Ilias from Monster Girl Quest considered for Game-Over Man.
Also, I feel like this is the second, maybe third, time someone attempted to make an idea from Genshin Impact even though that game is on some sort of waiting period before ideas from it can actually be worked on.
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On the Angry Birds interaction: the second movie actually has pigs and birds burying the hatchet and becoming friends, so I think that can have a deeper connotation than the current interaction.
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Hal Jordan of the Green Lantern Corps was an Ace Pilot who had insecurities from his career as, when he was a little boy, he saw his father die when he was piloting a plane. He was also a Jerk with a Heart of Gold himself, being defiant about orders, but still being a protector of the universe. As for a cynicism aspect, Hal reached a breaking point where after seeing Coast City get destroyed by Cyborg Superman, he was denied the opportunity to restore what he lost and went on a rampage, killing his own Corps and stealing the Green Lantern Rings to become Parallax and making himself a universal threat. He does get better and goes back to being a hero.
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Perhaps we should dump Genshin Impact in the Hype Prevention Sandbox and set up a mandate of how long the suspension will last.
Edited by CrimsonShark on May 15th 2021 at 7:39:20 PM
WHERE IS KRYPTO, I mean, WHERE IS THE DOG!!!Put all deities from Webcomics with <4 deities under Webcomics (Other) from the Sandbox using the Database, so sent subpages with <4 deities to the cutlist.
You can check that yourself. Either use the Database
or search the "Related" tab on the trope pages for it
Ah, looks like Rasberyl has the first trope. Thought Sam would have fit it due to part of his characterization being that he's a member of an alien race of scavengers that would see petty theft and vandalism as good while seeing abiding by the law and responsibility as bad (to the point where, early on, he considers ethics as a flaw in his crewmates and, even later on, hates the idea of being seen as responsible).
The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps
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Double post means posting twice in a row.
Also, no sandwich posting
Pantheon server for all who click here. Lost too much money and time, this coaster ain’t stopping.@Genshin Impact I feel like that, at the pace we are going, it will be literal years before all the archons are revealed, let alone encountered. I dont think its within reason to hold off 7 possible entities hostage for so long, especially when there may be other examples from already finished works that can also qualify for Elemental Nations as well. I suppose we'd have to talk to Excessive about it, but I dont think fair for everyone else.
Now that you mention it, that is true. So can Venti be considered for the god of the Corralling Vacuum then?
Edited by Iceaura39 on May 15th 2021 at 8:22:53 AM
It is I, the narrator, categorising addict and writer of books you haven't read.

@Excessive-Menace: The Oni is an RPG Maker antagonist that can appear from any place or game element possible, so they'll despise being chased by it.
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Since what I've seen from them makes your suggestion hold up well imo, I'll give a
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