Trope Pantheons Discussion

Welcome to the Trope Pantheons thread! Please read the rules:

Rules

Rules. The following are not suggestions or tips, but things that have to be followed:

When writing a profile, take note of the following:
- Gods cannot be followers or high priests for obvious reasons. The 'gods' have ascended meaning there is no need for said character to be a follower of another if they have ascended.
- No hype profiles, please. 'Hype Profiles' are profiles that have been made out of ongoing events and have not been around for a long time. This creates 'hype' due to popularity and certain elements either through certain scenes, memes, dramatic acting or considered overly awesome. They are not bad tropes but building a portfolio solely for that is a bad idea, as they do not say a thing about representing the trope best (unless it's those trope concepts that they are trying to embody for a long time)
  - You can see one if the profile is only showing off how awesome they are or suddenly pushing how 'significant' they are thanks to the just very recent events rather than respecting the longstanding good representations of the trope. And usually having... minimum portfolio or flavor texts and being a bit too generalized or self-contained to events from within their home series instead of interacting with other Pantheon members.
When posting in the forum, take note of the following:
- When you suggest a God, please explain why they fit the trope. Not everyone is going to understand just "X should be the God of Y because they exemplify the trope" off the bat, especially if they're unfamiliar with the work.
- You must use the Trope Pantheons discussion thread in the forums if you wish to add a new deity, story, something else of importance to the Trope Pantheon canon, or reworking an existing deity (be it simply improving their existing profile or changing their title).
  - For new and reworked deities, 3 means the profile will have a one week waiting period.
  - For new and reworked deities, 4 is a 3 day waiting period.
  - 5 is an automatic ascension for new and reworked deities.
  - Speaking of reworks, for anyone that wants to improve such profiles, they have to review the current trope the character(s) has and see if it still holds up or if there is a better rep for their trope.
- For adding new Treasures to The Great Treasury or new Dominions to the Dominions, the following rules apply:
  - For new Treasures or Dominions, 3 is a 3 day waiting period.
  - 4 is an automatic addition to the Great Treasury or Dominions.
- Do not repost a profile in the forums more than twice in a day if noticeable changes have not been made in between. If a profile is posted a third time in a row without noticeable alterations, it will be downvoted. This is so spamming of no-effort profiles is less frequent and to prevent tropers from getting aggravated seeing the same profile over and over. The minimum acceptable change has to be a single flavour text.
- The Pantheon is not a mouthpiece for you to voice your opinions on certain characters. You may like certain characters more than others, but do not make the mistake of making profiles for characters you like look like Character Shilling.
- Tropers new to the Pantheon are barred from approving or downvoting profiles until they have ascended at least two profiles.
- Do not include fan reception in any profiles. It has nothing to do with the character themselves and will create unnecessary conflict.
- Write a detailed explanation on why the character is the best candidate for deity of that trope. If people disagree with you, do not force it on the people.
- Keep in mind that if you still want to try to find a trope for a particular character, you are only given three chances to find a particular trope for them. If a suggestion goes past three possible tropes, then it will come off as shoehorning a character into the Pantheon just for the sake of that character to be there.
  - On a related note, even if a character does have a free trope being suggested, there is still a limit of three attempts for suggesting that character for that trope. If no one responds to that certain proposal after being posted three times, then it will get to the point where the idea will be seen as being shoehorned into the Pantheon. In addition, the idea needs to be considered acceptable and approved because they are good, not for the sake of pitying others because no one is responding to their idea.
When posting Pantheon related stuff to the wiki, take note of the following:
- Do not put a link to these Pantheon pages into the main wiki page. The moment you want to add in a main Characters page that the character is a God of this trope, do not do it. If you see leftovers of this practice, inform the forum and use the cutlist. This also goes to the Trivia page. The only exception to this rule is if a page in the Pantheon could be confused for a page in Main, like Good Colors, Evil Colors and Good and Evil Colors.
- Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment ALSO applies here. Do not bring things that would incite fights, even if it is what is currently the hot topic and might be 'urgent'. For example, the political scene and some really bad politicians. We are not here to fight at each other, so don't suggest things that go to that direction, this is a fictional Pantheon after all.
- To add a Pantheon page for a certain work, 4 or more characters coming from the same series/franchise should be ascended before adding the page. For Creator specific pages, 4 deities coming from the same creator and 2 individual work pages coming from the same creator is the minimum to warrant a page.
- Do not create a trope page for a story until the story is fully completed.

Instructions and Tips

Here are some tips one should keep in mind when editing:

Preparing to write:
- First thing to do before present a profile is to go to the Trope Pantheons discussion thread. In the forums, you must discuss with other users on adding ideas and seek their approval with sound reasoning. You can also get some assistance in the forum thread by either asking for help and those interested asking if they can help. Submissions that are added without discussion are likely to be deleted and those who violate those rules by adding Pantheon content without discussion will get reported to the mods.
- If you feel the need to remove a character for some reason (poor quality, outdated titles, etcetera) and replace him/her with another or outright rework, please see what the other tropers think about this in the discussion thread before doing anything hasty. Use good reasoning to see if your idea can easily replace the character present without drawing out your statement or giving too ambiguous claims most do not understand.
- Please be sure to consult others in the discussion about what you want to work before making the profile. This is done to see if your proposal is the best representative and so, in case your profile is turned down, you do not waste time writing something that others might not find suitable.
  - In the same vein, if you adopt a profile from another troper, it is recommended that you make an announcement that you have done so on the discussion thread. More often than not, a trope that was reserved for something was given away to someone else. Check the Related tab on the top of a page to see if a trope or character has been reserved by a user.
- If, for whatever reason, you are writing about a God who just happens to be a person in real life, just try to be very careful about what you decide to say. Do not try to make the editing seem too meta (self-referential) and use the aformentioned creativity to create hypothetical scenarios towards fictional characters.
When writing a profile for a character, here are a few things to note:
- All deities should be sorted by their divine ranking. Put Overdeities on the top of the page and Quasideities on the bottom. Also be sure to add them in alphabetical order by their first/given name (can be reversed if it is Eastern ordered). For a group, if there is no official name for them all list down all their names by order of relevance or (if too long to list) title them as Insert Name Here Main Characters or some other identifiable title along the same lines.
- The maximum number of tropes that a god can have is two, but do not try to abuse that fact. If you need to use a second trope to specify a certain thing about their position, that can be excused either because said character represents their trope choice very well alongside the first trope. It is still generally encouraged to only have one trope.
- A trope can only belong to one profile at a time. The only time two profiles can share a trope is if there are explicit variations listed in the trope page proper (e.g. Muscle Angst is held by both Biscuit Krueger and Chihiro Fujisaki as the former represents "Too Much Muscle" and the latter represents "Not Enough Muscle")
- If the character you are about to add to a House already exists in another, make sure to mention that this person has spots in other House as well. Up to 2 places can be made for a deity, with the sole exceptions being those at the Main House to highlight those characters’ importance to the Pantheon’s lore.
- For a character's theme song, try to avoid calling it "Theme of God X" or "Theme of (Show where God X originates from)". If possible, try to find out if the song has an actual name through research. Most importantly, it has to be part their series’ official soundtracks from media. Do not list songs that are made by fans or outside sources. If they were not specifically used as music for that specific character, then they do not count. Furthermore, it has to be a general theme specifically made for that characters’ appearances, not some generic music that plays for many other instances not related to the character in question.
- For images, when adding an image for your chosen character, it is highly recommended to use a stylized image that embodies the character or renders that also highlights a character’s behavior (such as cool poses). Most images should be from the main adaptations of the character, unless the images from the other media are of a higher quality than the adaptation. Unless it is needed, do not use fanart for images. If you are, please attribute to the original artist. Due to the website’s dark mode, removing white backgrounds from an image is paramount. This website is suggested to do the background removal. If an image you have takes up too much bytes, it is suggestible to use this site to reduce the byte size. If the byte is still too big, put the compressed image to other sites (or even the same one) to compress even further. Use wikias to look for better images, as even wikias for the series might not contain good official images.
- Creativity is your friend. While it is not recommended to get too ditzy at your ideas, it is best that when writing a profile for a certain character, do you think of capable scenarios between X and Y. Tip: do not use shallow examples (X wields a sword and Y wields one too) and try to think of relationships that makes sense (i.e those characters that are shout-outs for another).
Pantheon Content:
- Some series or genres will eventually have greater representation in the Pantheon than others. This is unavoidable, but a little diversity helps to make you not look like a shill per say. Try to ensure that if you add a deity from a popular series, make sure that it is because they are a good representative for the trope in question, and not just because they are connected to another deity in their respective canon.
  - As far as deities from actual mythologies, there is generally expectation to build the profiles off interactions from fictional portrays rather than basing it entire from the actual myth. Therefore, a mythological deity should be more of a Composite Character whose main identity is from the actual myth.
- Occasionally there will be Gods that carry a title without a trope. This is not forbidden, but it is well advised not to abuse them. The only house that a tropeless profile are wholly allowed is the House of Food. Mainly due to most food items lacking tropes, and adding tropes about said foodstuffs is slightly unnecessary. However, the character being ascended for their choice of a food, or food-related thing must be a decently good representative of said item. (i.e their Trademark Favorite Food, or something that they are closely associated with In-Universe, or both).
- For Dominions and Treasures profiles, always consider what made those places/objects popular in the first place. Were they plot-important, identifiable imagery or have a unique aspect of it? Do not just bring regular objects under the basis of following a certain canon.
For Profile Standards:
- Flavor text is used to describe certain things about a character, place or object. To avoid short ones, it is recommended to write flavor text with 4-7 sentences that can fill around 2 lines each. Be warned that adding too many sentences does not equal good flavor text as it is not an essay of sorts (unless words are substantial and do add to the overall line).
- Character Profiles of a certain person should have the following:
  - A portfolio that contains at least 7 (at the minimum) tropes describing their character.
  - Flavor text count for a deity profile should have by minimum, 10 (depending if the character in question has enough relationships/characterization) to 15 with a maximum of 20-25 for an individual profile.
  - On the other hand, group profiles (profiles of a group that has 4 or more members) have their maximum flavor text count to 15 minimum, giving individual lines for the other members of the group (unless the members are not as characterized) up to 30 at max.
- Dominion profiles of a certain place should have the following:
  - A portfolio that contains at least 5 (at the minimum) tropes describing the context of the place.
  - Flavor text count should range at least 10 to 15.
- Treasure profiles (inanimate objects without a trope) should have the following:
  - A portfolio that contains at least 6 (at the minimum) tropes that describes the object itself.
  - Flavor text count should be at least 7 flavor text up to 12 to constitute a treasure profile.

Divine Ranking System

Overdeity: Omnipotent-level Reality Warpers capable of manipulating the entire universe (or at least the world) at will. Within their own universe they are believed to be omnipotent, or at least impossible-to-completely-destroy embodiments or concepts.
Greater Gods: High-level Reality Warpers and that are extremely powerful (capable of destroying or changing anywhere from a large city to a planet at will) and very strong non-reality warpers capable of doing the same thing.
Intermediate Gods: Deities at this level are capable of strong but specialized powers such as hydrokinesis, pyrokinesis, etc. without major drawbacks and low level Reality Warpers capable of affecting their immediate area at will.
Lesser Gods: Capable of highly specific or little power on their own, or suffer from Power at a Price. However, they may be able to ruthlessly exploit their power or combine it with just being badass enough to make up for it.
Demigods: Basically the Badass Normals of the pantheon, making up for their lack of abilities with strength, strategy, and/or planning.
Quasideities: Any otherwise normal human, human equivalent, or below without any special powers or training will fall here.

Templates

Template for adding a new deity:

God X, God/dess of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
Rank: This can range from Quasideity, Demigod, Lesser God, Intermediate God, Greater God, to Overdeity, based on representation of power mentioned above.
Symbol: An image or icon used to represent the deity.
Theme Song: Official song (in other words, no fan music, regardless of quality) that usually is used in affiliation with the character. If the deity is a musician this will most likely be their Signature Song. If possible, give a link for reference, preferably on either a website like Soundcloud or YouTube.
Alignment: Good, evil, neutral etc. Forget about The Great Character Alignment Debate here, the Pantheon is one of the few places where you can assign Dungeons & Dragons alignment to characters that don't have alignment system. After all, the Pantheon is based on D&D and is made for fun.
For Pokémon deities only:
- Gender: Defines the gender of the Pokémon; if genderless, it instead defines what gender they identify as.
- Ability: Provides the Pokémon's ability. If they can Mega Evolve, the new ability is listed as well.
- Moves: Defines the four moves used by a Pokémon. A Z-Move may also be listed.
Portfolio: Tropes associated with the character.
Domains: Things that the character has influence over.
Herald: Non-ascended loyal character that is from the same series as the ascended character.
High Priest: Non-ascended like heralds, but not from the same series, and can serve as a worthy replacement in case something would happen. They can be served as part-time workers in case the originals are busy with some jobs. Co-Godhood is accepted depending on the approval of the originals, usually if the co-deity is from the same series.
Followers: Non-ascended characters that are not part of the Pantheon, but would probably worship this character by the fact that they share the ascended character's trope.
Relationships between ascended characters go here with your chosen character, it goes something like this:
- Allies: Members of the Pantheon that are allies, those that share the same values as them and would theoretically be friends with them.
- Rivals: Members of the Pantheon that are rivals, people who may look at your character with suspicion or a challenge.
- Enemies: Members of the Pantheon that are foes, those who would see your chosen character as a threat, either on their pespective or yours.
- Additional Character Relationships: Members of the Pantheon that do not fit in various relationships (examples include Enemy Mine, Vitriolic Best Buds, Teeth-Clenched Teamwork, Headbutting Heroes, Friendly Enemy, Friendly Rival, Just Friends, etc.), allies, rivals, or enemies.
- Partner: Defines a partnership with an ascended deity and Mon-type. (if any)
- Feared by/Fears: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon notably fear or are feared by.
- Respected by/Respects: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon respect or are respected by.
- Opposed by/Opposes: Not necessarily the same as "Enemies", but this is used for any deity whom the members of the Pantheon directly opposes or is opposed by (basically the opposite of "Respects") terms of certain viewpoints, regardless of alignment.
- Pitied by/Pities: A deity whom the members of the Pantheon feel pity for or are found pitiable by.
- Conflicting Opinion: Sometimes, the Deities argue over specific themes and philosophies.
Add the Intro. The intro is made up of two trivia, the Ascension Text (or just the Ascension) and The Bio. Both are necessary, but which order you use for them may vary depending on the profile in question. It may be better for one profile to have The Bio first and the Ascension second or vice-versa, although for the most part the order is irrelevant:
- The Ascension Text: This the story of how the character got into the Pantheon and/or was ascended. There are many ways for this to happen. They may be tricked into it or have simply wandered into the Pantheon, they may have had an already ascended character bring them in, they may already be in the Pantheon (via being another deity's Herald or sharing a trope) and got "promoted", or some combination of the above. Anything is possible in the Pantheon, so use your imagination, but try to incorporate their trope into the story, if possible.
- The Bio: A brief synopsis on the character's backstory. No need for the character's entire life/production history, but just give enough that those who don't know the character can get an idea of how the character works.
Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
And some more trivia/facts.
And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Deities/Characters is 10-15 (15-20 for group profiles) at minimum to 20-25 (30 for group profiles) at maximum.

Template for Dominions profiles:

Place X, Place of (Insert Trope Here) (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
Alignment: Refers to the dominion's role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
Portfolio: Tropes associated with the dominion.
Domains: Things that the place has links to.
Relationships (Optional): Unless the location has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the dominion is linked to, note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said dominion, good or evil otherwise.
Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Dominion is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
And some more trivia/facts.
And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Dominions is 10 at minimum to 15 at maximum.

Template for Treasure profiles:

The name of the item in here (Alternate names/Nicknames, Fan Nickname)

An image, if possible. Please use official art or a screenshot for a picture.
Appearance: A shortened description of the item's looks with some notable features also mentioned.
Class: Refer to the Treasure Classification System in the Great Treasury.
Alignment: Refers to the objects' role in their story, be it those used by villains or used by the Player Character.
Theme Song (Optional): Not important as compared to Deity and Dominion profiles but a notable mention if there is an accompanying song in use with the object.
Museum Check: A note that says whether the item is viewable by the public.
Portfolio: Tropes associated with the item.
Domains: Things that the item has links to.
Relationships (Optional): Unless the item has a connection with a specific deity, relationships are optional and may not be required. However, if there are deities linked to the same series as where the item is linked to (especially the original owner of the item), note them using the relationships, this includes deities that theoretically have interest with said object, good or evil otherwise.
Add the Intro. Here the introduction of the Treasure is added with some tidbits regarding the origins of its' creation and usage in the story. You can also add what made it popular/iconic/important here.
Now add some random trivia/facts about events/alignments/moments/fights/friendships/relations etc.
And some more trivia/facts.
And a couple of more.
- Note: Standard amount of flavor text for Treasures is 7 at minimum to 12 at maximum.

Edited by Willbyr on May 24th 2021 at 7:52:09 AM

Bazzardreturns The Marked Prince from Canada Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: In love with love

The Marked Prince

#149476: Nov 8th 2019 at 9:02:01 PM

Continuing from last page....

To be fair, there is a bit of an over saturation of Pokemon and as much as I like a good number of them, other series could use some love and attention. Which reminds me...

For Early-Installment Weirdness, I would like to suggest Bosko the Talk-Ink Kid. the reason for it?

To quote the trope page: "The early Looney Tunes cartoons are nothing like the ones that have Bugs, Daffy and the other recognizable characters. "They were no different from the other cartoon series running at the time—mildly amusing musicals with bland characters, derivative of Disney's more polished Silly Symphonies (note the similarities in name), not to mention that the early cartoons were in black-and-white and drawn in a completely different style that actually looks more cartoony than the later shorts. It wasn't until Tex Avery was promoted to director that Looney Tunes began living up to the first part of their name."

The early Looney Tunes and Merry Melodies were Bosko's home turf, and while he may have been the first star, his shorts were not too well remembered.

Edited by Bazzardreturns on Nov 8th 2019 at 9:05:42 AM

Time to explore the world!

SuperWIKI1 BourbonDiscordia from The Little Red Dot Since: Feb, 2019 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love

BourbonDiscordia

#149477: Nov 8th 2019 at 9:03:42 PM

TBH, sometimes it is warranted. Other people have been flaring up on it. It's better to nip it in the bud in a controlled manners rather than having arguments pop up every time an over-represented franchise comes up.

Edited by SuperWIKI1 on Nov 9th 2019 at 1:04:14 AM

Retired effective March 1, 2022

M1gamiTensei The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps from Punished “Brainwashed” M1gami Since: Oct, 2017 Relationship Status: 700 wives and 300 concubines

The Scrappy of the Trope Pantheon, God of Thumps

#149478: Nov 8th 2019 at 9:06:28 PM

From the characters title, I thought it was going to be about black face.

Pantheon server for all who click here. Freaking lost $410 and I am hunting down for a nuke to reign down.

Bazzardreturns The Marked Prince from Canada Since: Jun, 2016 Relationship Status: In love with love

The Marked Prince

#149479: Nov 8th 2019 at 9:08:03 PM

Not a chance, good sir.

Time to explore the world!

Donnietu from Stockton, CA Since: Mar, 2014 Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]

#149480: Nov 8th 2019 at 9:08:49 PM

@Bazzardreturns: Seems like a decent choice.

Hello, my baby. Hello, my honey. Hello, my ragtime gal.

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015

#149481: Nov 8th 2019 at 9:11:29 PM

Look, let's just wait and decide whether certain characters fit certain tropes or not

Here's my draft to restore the Ebon Dragon. I have looked up info on Exalted, however if anyone is a player of the game I will be quite happy. Same with Umineko. Some series I've gotten into because of the Trope Pantheon

The Ebon Dragon, God of Ruining Good Works (The Shadow of All Things)

https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/4fb64_ebondragon_donato_7.jpg

Note: Restoration
House: Evil Actions (House of Villains)
Overdeity
Symbol: A black disc so dark that it seems to suck away all light
Alignment: Stupid Evil
Portfolio: Heroes Act, Villains Hinder, Embodiment of Betrayal, Vice and, The ABSOLUTE LACK Of Virtues, Lack Of A Real Sense Of Self, Dark Is Evil, Our Dragons Are Different, Created The Unconquered Sun To Have A Foe To Define Him, Satanic Archetype, Inherently Pathetic Due To Embodying Vice And Failure, Stupid Evil, The Corrupter, Zero Valor, Always Lying, Shadow Archetype, For the Evulz, To Create a Playground for Evil, Physically Incapable of Selflessness
Domains: Treachery, Darkness, Shadow, Vice, Failure, Evil, Ruination
Interested in: dark villains, The House of Betrayal, Raditz, Lord Drakkon, Omega
Fond of: Those with no redeeming qualities whatsoever (particularly the treacherous), Walder Frey, Peter Pettigrew
"Allies": Dis, Angra Mainyu, Nyarlathotep (Persona), Dharkon, Yuuki Terumi, Barbatos, The Dark Knights, Tzeentch, Death (Final Destination), Grima, Nightmare Moon, Vaatu, Molag Bal, Aku
- Former "allies": Melkor, Johan Liebert, Majin Buu, Griffith
Rivals: Darkseid, Damien Thorn^notenot on their end, Chernabog
Enemies:
- In general: Pretty much anyone with a shred of virtue in them, every alignment member, every Hadou God, The Endless, the House of Celebration, Amara
- Forces of good: Cosmos, The Love That Moves The Stars, AMATERASU, Ra, Igor, Ahura Mazda, Philemon, Ezalor, Raava
- Good-aligned deities: Heroism in general(mainly light and dark-associated heroes), but has special contempt for Clark Kent/Superman, Gary Gygax and Dave Arneson, Daenerys Targaryen, Io, Bahamut, Tiki (and heroic dragons as a whole), The Phantom Thieves (especially Morgana), The Powerpuff Girls, Samurai Jack, Sir Galahad, Midna, Jiminy Cricket
- Villains: His former "allies", especially Griffith, well-intentioned and utopia-oriented villains, knight templars (especially Fused Zamasu), Leonard Snart, villains with standards in general, Galeem, The Light of Destruction and light villains, Ashera, Yaldabaoth, those who show that Order Is Not Good
If the Exalted are divine representations of positive qualities and victories, then the Ebon Dragon is the Anti-Exalt, a being who exists to deprive victory. The embodiment of all vice and corruption, the Shadow of All Things is defined by existing to befoul and ruin others' hopes and dreams. It is inherently difficult for the Ebon Dragon to act proactively, his motives being to spitefully hinder others and deny their victories. As long as he comes out ahead of everyone else, he could lose everything and still be happy.
Long ago, the Ebon Dragon once held the role of Shadow Archetype, which he is meant to represent to...well, everyone and everything virtuous. Though present early in the pantheon's history, he and his Exalted brethren fell out of favor. With the Unconquered Sun no longer present, the Ebon Dragon has chose to define himself as the Arch-Enemy to Amaterasu, due to also being a sun goddess of good. And Cosmos for good measure.
By default, the Ebon Dragon is enemies to all who represent good. He particularly despises those who are light oriented. As the absolute antithesis of virtue, perhaps more so than the Kingdom of the Emperor Dolorous(who at least started out as beautiful), he is one of the only beings that The Love That Moves The Stars genuinely hates. He really hates the pure of heart, the embodiments of virtue, ect. However even villains like Leonard Snart detest the Ebon Dragon, as long as they have some set of virtues to speak of.
Villains who think they're doing right, be it their intention, goal or standards, regard the Ebon Dragon as an abomination. Zamasu hates what he represents, yet in his self-righteousness fails to realize how deeply monstrous he is. The Ebon Dragon mocks Zamasu, pointing out he is a deep traitor to the gods and to his role in the cosmos. Zamasu angrily screamed "YOU HAVE NO PLACE TO TALK!", though most believe he did.
Once dwelt among Melkor as one of the Four Horsemen, but as time passed he proved more irrelevant. The Ebon Dragon's first thoughts on his return were absolute rage at being replaced, especially by the Falcon of Light. In general, the Ebon Dragon hates light, good or evil. He soon called Melkor a traitor, causing him to laugh uproariously about the absolute hypocrisy of the Ebon Dragon complaining about treachery. Of course the Ebon Dragon has no virtues, so lacking integrity isn't surprising from him. Though as they entered the initial alliance knowing they'd try to backstab each other, the Ebon Dragon might be more angry about being kicked out the Four Horsemen.
The reason why the Unconquered Sun believes Dark Is Evil. And all benevolent darkness users loathe him for it. Amara, a force of cosmic darkness and Primordial Chaos, doesn't care for him due to having made up with her equal and opposite. That doesn't mean the Ebon Dragon likes the malicious light users, due to being of other things a force of darkness. However he does like the evil dark users such as Dharkon. Chernabog, however, had the official position of Dark Is Evil, something that he wants and is competing with Chernabog for it.
So long as he is restrained in any way whatsoever, he is completely incapable of taking any action that does not have the ultimate goal of trying to free himself. And it's obvious he regards morality as such a restraint. As such, the Ebon Dragon doesn't like those who represent order, even malevolent forces like Yaldabaoth and YHVH. However that doesn't mean he's liked by Lucifer, who while respecting the desire to be free regards the Ebon Dragon's actions as loathsome and finds him a deeply hollow figure.
Isn't welcome in the House of Dragons for how unfathomably evil and antagonistic he is. Io and Bahamut regard him as a disgrace to dragons, as does Daenerys Targaryen and Tiki. The Ebon Dragon considers Dany's TV Face–Heel Turn hilarious. That said, Grima is such a monstrous and evil dragon that to some extent the two get along. Much to their surprise Tzeentch got along with the Ebon Dragon, due to the fact their plans and goals are byzantine, chaotic ploys that by their own nature are often set against themselves.
As the Ebon Dragon lives to deny and ruin victory, he is considered antithetical to the House of Celebration. He is mostly opposed by the House of Gaming, however many griefers, cheaters and trolls there are less apprehensive about the Ebon Dragon. On his end, he hates Gary Gygax and Dave Arneson on the principle of "being stuck playing in the same moral sandbox as everyone else and he absolutely fails at it". Or to be less tactful, he's butthurt about failing the game and blames the guys who made it.
Betrayal is part of the Ebon Dragon's very nature. He'll betray his allies for no reason whatsoever. He'll betray himself by screwing himself over with Stupid Evil acts. He only has one physical body because multiple will betray him, and his own component souls will betray him if he ever he gets out of Hell. For this reason, he has a vested interest in the House of Betrayal, and claims to be its de facto leader. Most of the gods there ignore him.
If he admires anything, it is the worst of traitors. Peter Pettigrew for his absolute cowardice in turning against his friends, and Walder Frey for violating perhaps Westeros' most sacred rite for the petty motive of being angry at his marriage arrangement being rebuffed. That, and those without zero redeeming factors whatsoever. He also has a curious fondness for Raditz, due to being a cowardly loathsome figure who set up much of the plot, reflecting to the Ebon Dragon's desire to be more important in spite of his limitations. Raditz isn't pleased by this.
As much as he is capable of alliance, the Ebon Dragon supposes Barbatos and the Dark Knights are good allies. Barbatos argued that the Dark Knights are a superior example of the Shadow Archetype, and to some extent the Dark Multiverse is as a whole for being where dark paths never taken in the Light Multiverse occur. The Ebon Dragon supposes this might be the case, but would never admit it. Though happy to have his claw in the pie of mass destruction and degradation, Barbatos believes that the Ebon Dragon is fatally lacking in the proactive spirit.
Though no longer his official role, he retains a vested interest in those who represent the Shadow Archetype or are generally darker versions of the virtuous. Lord Drakkon and Omega are two, but he really seems to like Nightmare Moon's status as a bringer of eternal night; she's a real thorn in the side of solar deities. The Ebon Dragon also happens to enjoy those doomed to die, and those who's deaths will change the world. As such, he likes the cruel deaths that the Death of Final Destination pulls on those who cheat it.
Dis and Angra Mainyu are the gods who the Ebon Dragon can relate to the most. As Dis has purposefully voided every virtue of his in his absolute opposition to his creator, and Angra Mainyu is the original God of Evil who seems only to exist to oppose all that is good, this isn't surprising. The Ebon Dragon is by nature an underhanded, sneaky and subtle God of Evil, thus catching the attention of Molag Bal for being a great force of corruption. And his inherent inability to be anything but selfish and cruel is something Aku found himself relating to. Darkseid and Damien Thorn however have declared him to be a pathetic figure and not worth their time, despite the Ebon Dragon seeing himself as a superior rival among the forces evil. And they're right, as his evil is expressed by having bad Virtue scores. Anyone on his level with virtues can kick his ass, though he never ever fights fairly.
His wildest fantasy is to become a shinma, one of the defining forces of the universe. As such, he is eagerly eyeing up the Throne with the hope of becoming the fundamental Law of the cosmos and subject all creation to his whims. A horrifying prospect that the various Hadou Gods are making sure never happens, except Hajun who's too egoistic to really care. Not that they'll team up to stop him, and they probably won't need to. To get an idea of how horrifying the prospect is, know that the Ebon Dragon wants you to be at the absolute nadir of despair, your dreams crushed, your life ruined, and your body wracked by continual agony. Yes, you specifically. Also everyone else specifically. Ponder that for a few minutes.

Mrperson2006 Scampton from A RIDE [[Around the bend]] Since: Aug, 2019 Relationship Status: A cockroach, nothing can kill it.

Scampton

#149482: Nov 8th 2019 at 11:01:48 PM

Any suggestions? Chica’s Magic Rainbow, God(dess?) of Rainbow Lite (The Rainbow)

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Intermediate God(dess?) (referred to as a female)
Symbol: Him/Herself
Theme Song: "Rainbow Theme" or “[Stone Cold”
Alignment: Either Chaotic Neutral or Chaotic Evil, but is more often treated as the former
Portfolio: Bait-and-Switch Boss, Beware the Silly Ones, Bitch in Sheep's Clothing, Everything's Worse With Rainbows, Faux Affably Evil, Lives in a Crapsaccharine World where Everything Is Trying to Kill You, Jerkass, Light Is Not Good, able to Light 'em Up, Rainbow Lite, Sore Loser, Smug Smiler.
Allies (the ones that are reciprocated)) The Goose
Teeth-Clenched Teamwork/Rivals: Rainbow Dash
Enemies: Every ascended FNAF deity, The Kid, The SCP foundation and most of their their oddities, regardless of alignment
Fears: Necrozma
Annoys: Basically anyone who isn't listed anywhere else here
The Friend Nobody Likes in: The Indie Gaming Brotherhood
Chica’s Magic Rainbow is a, well, magical rainbow that is in the titular Mini-Game in Five Nights at Freddy’s World. The game may seem like a Sugar Bowl, but you couldn’t be more wrong, as Everything Is Trying to Kill You, with flowers that shoot their petals at you, bees that shoot laser beams, huge logs that fire out of nowhere and, despite what she says, even the rainbow tries to kill you, especially if you try to turn her voice off.
They ascended when a rookie SCP worker (likely a D-Class) noticed a three color rainbow in the sky. A weird sight, they thought, but nothing revolutionary. Then the rainbow came to life and started throwing insults at the worker, angry that they called them “nothing revolutionary”. Then the worker made the situation worse by insulting the rainbow back, saying that she is nothing compared to a sentient fridge or toaster. Upon hearing this she finally snapped, attempting to destroy the Pantheon with her rainbow cannon. Once more gods caught wind of this rainbow, they were quickly defeated when attempting to combat it. Upon revival, they reported the disturbance to the Main House, which made short work of the rainbow and brought it to the Court. After a fashion, Chica's Magic Rainbow was ascended into the Pantheon under the trope Rainbow Lite, much to the chagrin of those who had to fight her.
After a small break (she just got her butt kicked, after all), the rainbow took a look around the various houses and ended up meeting a goose honking at a blue pony. Once she discovered the scene, she decided to challenge the goose to a snark-off. After the goose got roasted so much it exploded, the rainbow talked to the pony, known as Rainbow Dash. Although the rainbow saved her, Rainbow Dash still doesn’t like her (She only had 3 colors, after all, and Rainbow Dash doesn’t find that very impressive). They do try to work together, but their teamwork is even more teeth-clenched then Gallem and Darkon, and that’s saying something.
One deity who hates this rainbow with a burning passion is The Kid because of the fact the she give them Heroic BSoD because of reminding them of their previous adventures. Not wanting to take chances, he asked the goose to steal some of the weapons from the treasure vault. The goose oddly followed the kid’s orders (Not before honking up a storm) and brought some weapons, which The Kid made into a makeshift turret and blew the rainbow to kingdom come. Oddly, despite this and the above incident the Rainbow and the goose are still friends.
She despises Necrozma, due to being able to absorb light. Funnily, when she found out that its true form does the exact opposite, she began to bully Necrozma about how she is invincible to its attacks, needless to say, she was proven wrong, HARD
Due to how she got here, the SCP foundation wants nothing to do with her and attempted to file her with the actual SCP oddities. The actual oddities are very upset about this because of how annoying she is and will often team up just to get her to leave. She hates the oddities back and will often do huge battles with them, often ending with her getting curb-stomped.

Beta/ first thoughts

”Ladies and fricks!”

Chadtronic, God of Ladies and Germs (Chapstick, Chad Tropic, Chad Dad, Dad (much to his confusion), Chaprod, Rumble Chapkin, your favorite nursery rhyme character)

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Allignment: Chaotic Good
Icon: His Iconic Item, the NES pillow
Portfolio: Aside Glance, Engager of Catharsis Factor, Often Corpses, Occasionally does Cringe Comedy, a big Deadpan Snarker (though can be a Silent Snarker depending on the situation), Often forces memes, Rarely says anything worse then “frick”, Head Desk, Hilarious Outtakes, Keet, Ladies and Germs, Large Ham, Limited Wardrobe except not really, Self proclaimed Manchild, Older Than They Look, Sanity Slippage, Often does stingers, Stunned Silence, Toilet Humor.
Herald: Mr. Shootemz, his toy robot.
Allies: The Angry Video Game Nerd, The house of Pantheon/Advertising, Most indie gaming representatives, especially The Goose
Opposes: Slappy the Dummy
Chadtronic is a YouTube channel created by Chad Bergström. His channels contain reaction videos, toy videos, Let's Plays, and occasional gaming videos. Among the various things Chad has showcased in his videos are retro TV commercials, old training videos, unusual news reports of the overreacting Moral Guardians side which he names "PARENTS UPSET OVER [TOPIC]", SammyClassicSonicFan's rant videos, and strange toys. Check out his channel here. You can also check out his alternate account for his Let's Plays, trading-card unboxings, and other gaming-related videos, as well as his third channel "Yojoyco", a YouTube channel for his eponymous indie media company.
His ascension story is... weird to say the least. Slappy wanted to have more people ascend that he knew, so he asked (read: bribed) Prismo to do so. Prismo asked who, which Slappy simply said “surprise me”, cue Prismo summoning Chadtronic... who almost instantly punted Slappy out of the room. After that, Prismo asked the Main House what should he do with Chad, who told him that he could ascend under the trope Ladies and Germs, much to Chad’s annoyance, considering the fact that he has to deal with Slappy now.
Chad is one of the only deities who the goose doesn’t hate, mainly due to the fact that Chad finds the Goose stealing things funny. They often team up, annoying practically everyone.

ALL ABOARD THE BIG SHOT EXPRESS!!!!!

nightelf37 The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread from Hadithi (it's Swahili for 'story') Since: Jul, 2010 Relationship Status: They grew on me like a tumor...

The Scrappy and Butt-Monkey of the Pantheon Thread

#149483: Nov 8th 2019 at 11:27:45 PM

No-Thumbs Mode

Just at least an ally for Khint and I think I'm set.

"We have a contract. You'll get your money's worth."

Ciggma Khint, God of Spell Blades (The Spell Fencer, Ikuma Naerik)

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Potential House: Swords and Combat Magic
s:

Lesser God
Symbol: His sword
Theme Song:
Alignment: True Neutral
Portfolio: Spell Blade, Magic Knight, Nothing Personal, Perpetual Frowner, Professional Killer, Significant Anagram, Badass Baritone, Can Imbue His Blade With Silence As Well As Poison And Death, Only in It for the Money, Leaving When Things Go Sour For His Client Unless The Payment Is Exorbitant Enough, Technically Fulfilled His Goals: Paying For His Ill Daughter's Treatments, In Hiding In The Sequel
Domain(s): Spell Blade, Mercenary, Money
High Priest: Fayt
Allies:
Rivals:
Enemies: Airy, Ouroboros
Additional Relationships: The Heroes of Luxendarc (sans Yew and Magnolia)
Dislikes: Talkative types
The Heroes of Luxendarc first encountered Ciggma Khint while he was under the employ of the K&P Merchantry in Ancheim. Twice he fought them alongside the Jackal and Erutus Profiteur separately before eventually ditching them when they started losing. His final bout with them in the first loop was alongside Eloch Quentis Khamer VIII, the then-ruler of Ancheim. Having been paid the entire treasury for his contract, Khint fought Tiz and company to the bitter end.
- Prior to that, even before he claimed the Spell Fencer Asterisk, he served in the Eternian Duchy as a squadron commander, with Holly Whyte—who would eventually hold the White Mage Asterisk—as one of the members of the unit under his command. She and Einheria Venus—eventual holder of the Valkyrie Asterisk, and someone Edea Lee looked up to—viewed him in high regard.
Currently in hiding during the events of the Glanz Empire's attack, he was approached by a Pantheon envoy and invited. For reasons only he knows, he took the offer, and was eventually ascended as a deity.
He doesn't hold his defeat to Tiz and company against them; that's just part of the mercenary life. And he had ultimately got what he wanted by the end.
As part of his position, he's been granted the abilities of his Spell Fencer Asterisk, which he heard was now in the Treasury.
He used to have exorbitant surcharges to likely help compensate his sick daughter should he end up dying, which is what happened to him before the Adventurer saved him (and many others Tiz and company defeated) from the brink. Since Death Is Cheap in the Pantheon, Khint was required to reassess his fee system before joining the market again for contracts.
Many mercenaries look down on Khint for his dynamic contract fee; they deem it unprofessional to back out on a client when a price is agreed on.
As someone who turned to a life of crime to pay for illness treatment, Khint sort of understands Walter White's motivations when the drug lord hired him one time. Though for White's it's his own while for Khint's it's his daughter's. That said, given White's occasional bouts of ego, which can lead to recklessness, as well as how he treats his allies, Khint keeps their relationship professional, and is always ready to leave should things get too dicey.
"My contract ends here. I'll take my leave."

Feedvack Mode

Born, God of Railroaded Player Characters Taking Blame

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Potential House: Gaming Narratives
s:

Lesser Deity
Symbol: Itself
Theme Song: Dream
Alignment: True Neutral
Portfolio: Living Shadow, Dark Is Not Evil, Scarecrow-Shaped, Blamed for Being Railroaded, Can Survive Lava Heat, Nice Job Breaking It, Hero, What the Hell, Hero?, The Anti-Nihilist
Domain(s): Void, Colors, Discovery, Change
Herald: The Void from whence it came
High Priest: the tresure hunter from Infidel
Followers: John, the boy from Seedling, the Nameless Hero, Ark,
Allies: Luke, ROB
Rivals:
Enemies: Manus, Tabuu
Admired by: The Grand United Alliance of Destruction (of which Born doesn't reciprocate)
Target of Interest of: Xemnas
Opposed by: All indiscriminate darkness-haters like Nier
Born is a shadow entity, erm, born from the Void. Gaining sentience, he left the void to explore, gaining powers and learning of his own purpose in life. It also had to escape from the Void, which wished to be whole, and thus desired to reclaim Born. After five whole areas of running from the void, inadvertently dooming the areas he's been to during his flight, Born decided to eventually stop running. However, because his experiences have filled him, Born has changed a lot, and so the Void decided to finally leave him be. That said, he still had to remove the Void from the places it consumed during its chase. But he eventually managed to do it.
Sometime after that, he was met by an envoy from a place called the Trope Pantheons and invited to stay there. Without the Void hounding his trail anymore, despite not having actually met any other sentient entity before now, Born accepted the offer, and that's how he became a Pantheon deity.

While it's implied he can take on any form he likes, but just never had a reason to, Born takes the vague shape of a scarecrow, but around two feet shorter.
With his color powers, Born can change the color of certain surfaces/solids (and not midair), changing their properties, though only a limited amount can be placed at a time. They can also be removed by lava, though it's not known if other fluids can do the same.
- Light Blue works like Frictionless Ice. Born runs faster on it. Heavy objects on it can he moved with comparative ease as well.
- Green allows for bouncing of projectiles or oneself, but never when one is starting off from it.
- Brown hampers movement, but also masks noise from underground dwellers and counters any form of suction nearby. It also allows Born to stick to a wall and jump off it if the wall is brown.
- Red burns and destroys those that stay on it for too long, and serves as Born's only means of attack. He can survive it for a short time, alleviated by constantly jumping off of it, but even that is a temporary measure and Born will need to rest elsewhere lest he burn up, too. It can also enrage fireflies to emitting more light, and agitate mounted guns to firing faster.
- Yellow generates electricity and can be used to temporarily connect power generators to appliances.
Given his fragile body, he has a respawn system just like Viridian.
There are those who dislike Born due to the destruction wrought from his flight from the Void, but there are those who give justification to his actions, stating that as a recently-born entity, he had no sense of morality, only a will to live. And ultimately, he set things right after the Void was convinced to leave him alone and righted the wrong he did by somehow getting the Void to bring back the worlds it consumed trying to reclaim Born.
- This is also why Born opposes those who consciously desire oblivion of all life,
For some reason, Born finds an unexplainable connection with Cpt. Martin Walker, who's also undergone a journey wrought with disaster that went beyond his control, and took blame for it (as well as the "player controlling them").
The Inklings aren't quite sure what would happen if they're playing Turf War with Born in the area. Given his power to place colors, he has the potential to mess up their game depending on what colors they're currently taking on.
As a being from the Void, Xemnas holds interest in Born. So does Tabuu. Born doesn't like their attention.
When Count Bleck heard of Born's tale, he was reminded of the time he tried to end all of existance through the void, only Born was ending things just by existing because the Void wanted to reclaim him. At least the Void from whence Born came from eventually left him be.
Chell once crossed paths with Born while he was painting some area green. It reminds her of some Aperture Science goo that she's had to go through before.

TV Tropes Pantheon Group Members Database

RJ-19-CLOVIS-93 from Australia Since: Feb, 2015

#149484: Nov 9th 2019 at 12:10:05 AM

Alliance entry: Character ideas for alliance sub-houses who could do with more people. Will add more. Case by case with moderating the other alliances
- With the GUAC Lords Of Chaos, the Sins of Sloth and Vanity empty(Melancholy/Despair was counted). Who fits Sloth and Vanity?
- I wish to add to the GUAM Malware Program the Architect (for his enormous importance and power within the Matrix, and to balance out Agent Smith)

SuperWIKI1 BourbonDiscordia from The Little Red Dot Since: Feb, 2019 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love

BourbonDiscordia

#149485: Nov 9th 2019 at 3:54:23 AM

@Clovis: Speaking of Umineko, all the Higurashi profiles shld be reworked. Assuming I'm not being overly ambitious, I may do a series-wide revamp. And yes, that includes Hanyu for Corrupt Church.

for GUAM.

Edited by SuperWIKI1 on Nov 9th 2019 at 7:54:48 PM

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WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015

#149486: Nov 9th 2019 at 4:22:15 AM

I think i remembered Bosko staring in the Animaniacs and Tiny Tunes. They had two very different portrayals.

Edit: Just to let you know, I did ask the Jesus question. One Mo D did reply and they did say there be no problem. Though, they also mentioned other Mods might have different opinion.

Edited by WhirlRX on Nov 9th 2019 at 8:19:48 AM

Muundeis No. 1 Entourage Fanboy from ANYWHEREEEEEEE!!!! AAAAAHHHHH!!! Since: Dec, 2017 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters

No. 1 Entourage Fanboy

#149487: Nov 9th 2019 at 5:31:20 AM

I have the profile for the main Higurashi cast in my second sandbox for Mind Screw in order to combine them and free up tropes, and it also does include Hanyu. PM me if you're interested.

Next time on Dr. Phil Straddles The Border...

SuperWIKI1 BourbonDiscordia from The Little Red Dot Since: Feb, 2019 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love

BourbonDiscordia

#149488: Nov 9th 2019 at 5:40:36 AM

I'll let you take the lead on that one. I'll come in once you're ready and do major spruce ups. I may be over ambitious.

Agreed. As much as I think the idea has merit, it's way too contentious to even risk doing. I guess if nightelf or Whirl really want to do it, they can make the profile with no intention to send it for s to indulge themselves.

Edited by SuperWIKI1 on Nov 9th 2019 at 11:03:41 PM

Retired effective March 1, 2022

kingvideogames Every Kel Profile is Canon from SOMEWHERE down in Fullertown; don’t know where.. Since: Oct, 2013 Relationship Status: I LOVE THIS DOCTOR!

Every Kel Profile is Canon

#149489: Nov 9th 2019 at 6:59:18 AM

@Whirl, Even if you try to ascend Jesus with a profile, I expect everyone here to give it a . I don’t want him, so many other people don’t want him, please drop this.

Sorry, my bad...

Edited by kingvideogames on Nov 9th 2019 at 7:33:08 AM

Time to rise and shine. Good morning!

WhirlRX Since: Jan, 2015

#149490: Nov 9th 2019 at 7:15:10 AM

I just asked the question whether Jesus was a controversial piece to ascend, especially for Mods. Thats it. M1 wanted to ascend him. I suggested SP version.

SuperWIKI1 BourbonDiscordia from The Little Red Dot Since: Feb, 2019 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love

BourbonDiscordia

#149491: Nov 9th 2019 at 7:26:40 AM

Apologies for the misunderstanding.

Retired effective March 1, 2022

Alex2000 Since: Sep, 2018

#149492: Nov 9th 2019 at 8:21:05 AM

Hey you guys so 2 things: 1) I thought that the invaders from War of the Worlds were here in the pantheon or am I mistaken? and 2) here are some ideas that 1) need approval and 2) are completely free for anyone to take:

Prue Halliwell Goddess of Emotional Powers Reasoning: All of the Charmed Ones' power come from their emotions but Prue's is most prominent as her power is channeled by her anger, thus making her the most powerful of the sisters(as mentioned numerous times on the show) Plus, I saw that her sisters were ascended without her and I just really want them to be reunited.

Nancy Thompson Divine Trapmaster Reasoning: The climax of her story involves taking down her attacker with homemade traps around her house with many commenting that this serves as basically an inspiration to Home Alone before the movie was even made. Plus, I feel that one of the most iconic Final Girls in Horror deserves a spot for herself

Goonies The Gods who Never Say "Die" Reasoning: The most famous quote from this movie that really encapsulates the core of the movie and these characters is the commonly-used phrase "Goonies Never Say Die!" which has become a catchphrase of the movie as a whole

Edited by Alex2000 on Nov 9th 2019 at 8:22:46 AM

EclipseMT Summoner. Or something. from Illinois Since: Oct, 2014

Summoner. Or something.

#149493: Nov 9th 2019 at 8:34:41 AM

Is Musical Theme Naming still a stalemate?

(browses through trope page; notices Violinist of Hameln)

(also notices the alias theme naming of Sam and Dean Winchester)

n.b.: I have no idea about any of these characters.

Well, for your Never Say "Die" example, that isn't what the trope entails. Thank you for pointing that out.

Edited by EclipseMT on Nov 9th 2019 at 10:56:21 AM

EclipseMT/MendicantECT/729MT. Steam gamer, summoner, and outright everything else

mariovsonic999 Lo L Dating Sim is a real thing. Since: Feb, 2012

Lo L Dating Sim is a real thing.

#149494: Nov 9th 2019 at 8:47:15 AM

But Never Say "Die" is censorship to avoid the word death.

Fire Emblem Heroes Code: 4547311645 Fate/Grand Order Code: 188037115

WeirdWarrior Press 5 For Senor from the Sunshine State Since: Feb, 2015 Relationship Status: They can't hide forever. We've got satellites.

Press 5 For Senor

#149495: Nov 9th 2019 at 8:59:11 AM

@Alex: Emotional Powers and Trap Master are already taken by Shigeo Kageyama and Satoko Houjou respectively.

This time, I'm really gonna do it.

SuperWIKI1 BourbonDiscordia from The Little Red Dot Since: Feb, 2019 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love

BourbonDiscordia

#149496: Nov 9th 2019 at 9:15:16 AM

Assuming Muundeis continues with his Higurashi rework (I'm happy to pick up if he stops), Trap Master may very well be free soon.

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CrownlessMimic Gatekeep Girlboss Gasharpoon from The Great Lake Since: Oct, 2016 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters

Gatekeep Girlboss Gasharpoon

#149497: Nov 9th 2019 at 9:53:40 AM

If there isn't anything else then I'd like for Yes Man's rework to be instated. I still have House to go and I put off the New Vegas reworks for too long now.

Yes Man, God of Sycophants (PDQ-88b Securitron, Goddamn TV on wheels)

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House: Introvert Characterization
s: 6 (WeirdWarrior, Muundeis, r-lock, Faso, SuperWIK1 Bazzard) Nov. 9
Lesser God
Symbol: His smiling visage.
Alignment: True Neutral
Portfolio: The Courier's very own sycophant, Nice Guy, But is still cunning mastermind, Extreme Doormat to only the Courier, Named this way for a reason but it's also because the only name to go by, Dissonant Serenity
Domain: Jovialness, Trickery, Planning, Sycophants, Pragmatism
Followers: Securitron Army
Allies: The Courier, Richard Simmons
Worries: Robert Edwin House
Enemies: The Courier's enemies but especially Father Elijah, Ghengis Khan, Null Sector
Hates: Arthur Maxson, Anyone who reminds him of the Great Kahns
High Priest: The other Yes Man
Yes Man was once a regular Securitron that, after being damaged, was recovered by the Chairmen's Leader Benny for the purpose of usurping House and taking over New Vegas in the coming Second Battle for Hoover Dam. While Yes Man is very much capable of doing so, Benny isn't, and there was the problem of unfinished business with a certain delivery man heading right for him never mind his reputation in the wastes. By chance, and poor programming on Benny's part, Yes Man and the Courier would go on to make their mark through Benny's plans and the Mojave Wasteland would be forever changed... at least, that would be the case in one of the potential outcomes anyways. Indeed, it is ambiguous as to what side the Courier took during the Final Battle but nevertheless Yes Man is happy to serve the Courier in any way he can.
He was actually present long before the Courier was and while capable of plotting a takeover, the other gods have taken steps to prevent Yes Man from doing so mostly by telling him not to and isolating him in places like basements and such. There are others however who are looking into taking advantage of him for their own purposes. That was, until the Courier came to the Pantheon themselves and revealed Yes Man had his "Assertiveness" Upgrade already installed on him, meaning the commands told to him by the other denizens was an act ordered by the Courier for a bit of a laugh and any plans by just asking him to help plan things for them was bound to end in failure anyways. Some question the upgrade as proof the Courier went to an independent route for the Mojave Wasteland as such a thing did indeed happen by its end, but this reasoning is flimsy without anything else supporting it.
- On that note others question what the upgrade entails as it could mean Yes Man is capable of usurping them with his newfound "Assertiveness". The truth is, Yes Man has no plans in undermining his new boss. The Upgrade means he can act independently and run things on his own meaning there won't be anyone like the Courier trying to pull the rug from under their feet like with that oversight during Benny's absence. As a result many deities can attest to seeing the modified Securitron in a number of odd places in the Pantheon, usually running the Courier's other errands. Managing the Courier's inventory, dealing with their allies and enemies both old and new, stockpiling on a number of armaments under people's noses. Those kinds of things. He's quite glad to not be stuck in a dingy basement as his entire world.
Yes Man may be programmed as a jolly and overall friendly robot, but one should never forget that said robot is capable of not only playing two of the most powerful factions in the Mojave Wasteland, but also ruining the plans of a Crazy-Prepared Pre-War businessman who's calculations on the timing of when the bombs would drop was off by a day. He also favors the more pragmatic options in situations, in some cases the more brutal ones not unlike something House would do. There's also the fact he's an automaton with a Gatling Laser, a submachine gun, a grenade and even a missile launcher with auto repair never mind a seemingly neverending supply of spare bodies should he be destroyed but considering the general population of the Pantheon, this gets overlooked. Of course, Yes Man plans to remedy this when it comes time for the Courier to enact their own little plans in the future.
Yes Man: "Well I just can't let everyone else have all the fun now can I? Why not have another huge killer robot into the mix? Or heck, even an army while we're at it. We already have an alliance full of them! And some guys fighting them too! Big world, huh?"
Mr House was... not happy when he learned of Yes Man's existence. While Benny's treacherousness came as no surprise to him (no absurd calculations needed for that) the very fact that he's pretty much a phantom in his network and also has access to his own Securitron army is indeed a cause for concern. Even if the relationship between him and the package Courier remains ambiguous but not openly hostile. Not helping in this instance is the fact that Yes Man is seen around the Courier in their more dubious moments, usually when said moments involves some tech support. Yes Man reciprocates the very negative feelings. But with only the good vibes he brings out.
Yes Man: "I don't like Mr. House one bit! No wonder the good guys want to kill him and take his stuff!"
- As the Courier's enemies are his enemies as well neither they are any happy with Yes Man's ascension as it means one more ally of theirs is up and against them. Father Elijah seems especially angry as something potentially sophisticated as Yes Man is in the hands of some package Courier and not him. Yes Man meanwhile could only "aah" at the realization of why the Courier specifically chose to bury him in the Sierra Madre's vault.
Incapable of any form of anger or rage, due to how he was programmed, and while he does not mind said programming there are times where he wants to be angry but just... just can't. Like when your boss blows up the large army beneath everyone's feet, meaning they are going to try and issue a take over without any back up to speak of. At best it's just Angrish and making huge leaps and bounds in logic to make some amount of sense of such poor decisions. That said, he doesn't mind the jovial persona even when referring to some people he personally doesn't like.
- And speaking of people he personally doesn't like, he's a bit more irate when the Brotherhood of Steel is brought up in conversation. Understandable given their reputation and stance when it comes to technology, especially with Arthur Maxson at the helm in the Pantheon where they are much more aggressive than previous iterations. He's made it clear time and time again he doesn't want them around anymore.
- Yes Man appears to also hate Ghenghis Kahn, likely as a carryover for his Irrational Hatred for the faction in the Wasteland known as the Great Kahns. Its irrational in the fact that Benny hated them and the robot is only just copying his opinions on them. Yes Man had made it clear he wouldn't mind if Ghenghis' temple suddenly and unfortunately exploded one day. Or if he was filled with lead. Or vaporized in the epicenter of a bomb. On that note, anyone who reminds him of the Kahns gets similar comments and views.
Yes Man considers Richard Simmons of the Red Team a friend of his due to his role as the group resident Professional Butt-Kisser. Simmons thinks he's exaggerating, now being a far cry from immediately sucking up the Sarge and whatever orders he barks out but Yes Man was still insistent he can at least relate experiences. "I guess," was Simmons' reply. He at least is capable of not putting up with the more insane plans unlike Yes Man, whom Simmons still finds the most passive robot ever (of all time!).
Null Sector in their goals of growing their strength sought out Yes Man to join their cause. When he, politely, refused through sending a predictably friendly letter they instead were enraged and sent over troops to take him and the Securitron army he leads by force. Alive or dead. The attacking forces were then in for a surprise when during the journey to Yes Man's temple they were greeted by some of the enemies they made in the Pantheon, in part to Yes Man tipping off the request made to him along with the approximate calculations of their mobilizations and arrival upon refusal.
"Hey! Hi there, good to meet you! What can I do for you today?"